Series of lessons on the topic: Бааль Сулам - undefined

05 - 11 червня 2022

Lesson 711 черв 2022 р.

Бааль Сулам. Мир

Lesson 7|11 черв 2022 р.
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Morning Lesson June 10, 2022, Transcription

Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio

Part 2:

Baal HaSulam. The Peace (The Wheel of Transformation of the Form. start with: "Such as that you will also find...")

Reading (00:35) “Such as that you will also find in Beresheet Rabbah, Chapter 8, regarding the creation of man:…”

1. S. (04:10) The question is, we studied about this, that Hillel and Shammai said is it good that man was created or not? I'm asking you is it really good, was it worth it?

R. If you are asking me I don't know, to give you an immediate answer because I have to weigh who am I answering. It is not that you ask me, and I just answer into thin air. I have to weigh, to measure who is receiving those audio waves that I emit and how much they can change the person in the good or bad direction. Meaning will it push him towards the goal or stop him and confuse him in some way. So I can’t tell you like that.

S. In the end of the process was this whole suffering really worth it? Everything we were talking about and all these wars? The bottom line, was it really worth it this whole story?

R. So again, I'm telling you the same thing. I have to know who am I answering because with my answer I want to not stop a person from advancing or even help him advance, but not to stop and confuse him. So I cannot say. It is written in other books, other sources of the sages when they sat and discussed for a long time on whether it was worthwhile for a person to be born or not. Because from all you see in the world that there is such a question. So what did they reach? They reached the following answer. That it’s not worthwhile for a man to be born but if he was already born then he should worry about achieving correction. I'm just translating it into simple words what is written.

S. Could be at a state that a soul came to the world not for correction and reach Gmar Tikkun?

R. How will it reach the final correction? It’s a single system. It is not that it exists on the axis of time in the way that you imagine it. Everything already exists right now. Wherever you determine yourself is where you can be. 

S. So everybody reaches correction no matter what?

R. Yes. When you achieve correction you see that everyone is corrected. 

S. Also, the ones in the amazon there you once said?

R. Yes, yes. We cannot understand these things, that's why talking about it might confuse us and push us further into some false decisions. That's not good. Therefore, we learn and hope that by the increasing connection between us we will draw more surrounding light and it will influence us  and give us true mind and heart, spiritual, Godly and that's how we will advance. Just don’t stand still and be mad at everything. About this it says the fool sits in his own lap and eats his own flesh.

S. Did you say to get mad at everything, why?

R. Most people aren't happy with life and don’t direct themselves from their discontent to the right direction.

S. So everything you say with all the problems and troubles, that even if you have trouble you tell me I have to be happy? Is that what you're telling me?

R. Yes because these troubles direct you towards correction, towards something whole and therefore it isn't troubles, it’s not. You’re being pushed towards a good thing, and you get angry at these forces pushing you.

S. How should I relate to it exactly?

R. With love.

S. So to accept things the way they’re happening and take it with love, that’s what you’re saying?

R. Well, yes.

S. Even though it's difficult?

R. Despite the difficulty you accept it with love and try to change yourself in such a way that you will love these forces that push you. That you will feel love in them and then these forces will transform from pressure to embrace.

 

S. All this is only possible in the ten?

R. Yes, the ten helps you understand and do this transformation, this change in relating to the forces of nature, from bad to good. But again it’s all on the condition that you want to rearrange that.

2. S. (10:22) He explains about the angels that made a calculation and after they calculated all  the suffering and pleasures they thought it was worthwhile for creation. We know that angels are forces in a person so how can we understand this? When can somebody have that kind of calculation to see that the suffering was worth it?

R. Until the final correction he can't. He’ll always justify the Creator and a moment after that when his Reshimot advance, and instead of previous Reshimot that he already corrected, new Reshimot unfold, and they’re broken and so he can't. That's why he always goes from left to right from left to right.

S. In the left you can never justify the Creator?

R. No, you can’t. It’s Reshimot from the shattering unfolding on which there was no correction. Therefore a person is yet again in a state where he has to choose faith about reason, to go with bestowal above reception even though it doesn't seem good to him, doesn't seem right to him. So he looks for support in the group, he looks for support from the Creator, he prays, he doesn't know how to strengthen himself even though he knows that he must, but he doesn't know how. Then he comes to a state where he nevertheless receives help from above and takes some step forward towards faith above reason, that is towards connection with the ten. Thus he advances and he falls again. That's how it is. We already know this from experience. If everyone agrees, let's continue.

Reading (12:52)  “And now all will see the truth in the words of the prophet (Isaiah 11) in the prophecy of peace:…”

3. R. (13:22) Meaning we will reach a state where the rule of the Creator will appear on all of humanity in such a way that every everyone will calm down and no one’s evil inclination will jump and erupt (his ego that is) in such a way that one will want to control the other.

Reading (13:45) “Thus, the prophet conditions peace in the whole world with the filling of the whole world…” 

4. R. (14:56) This is clear to us, right? That we are in process, we are in a suffering that becomes greater and greater, overtaking all of humanity, all planet Earth. The more you advance our connection is in our egoistic connection through technology and trade and economy. All those things don’t work in our favor because they are all based on the ego of the individual, and big corporations or countries all of that it is not to our benefit. That's why we are moving towards a bad direction instead of a good direction. We think we can come to some good results by that but that's not the way because ultimately everything in humanity is developing based on the growing ego. Therefore, we can’t look for something good to come out of it. Like he says that the suffering will increase, and the cries will rise up to heaven and that’s how the future will look if we don’t correct it. 

Reading (16:31) “Thus, they have no other choice but to come to accept His burden in knowledge of the Creator…”

5. S. (17:29) An eternal question but still, what to do with friends that do not come to the lessons for a long time? I have thoughts that maybe they're suffering from society and that's why they're not coming?

R. Look, it says 1,000 go into the room and one goes out to teach. Meaning that one thousand start studying and one of them comes to the light, the revelation of the Creator, the revelation of the upper world and the spiritual world that is above us. In our time yes, there is such a proportion between those who go in and out, but still many people fall off the path and we have to continue. You cannot create any new conditions for them because the conditions in which we exist weren’t determined by us. We are trying to make things easier, especially our organization, which is global and therefore it really let go from all kinds of limitations that used to be in the past about clothing and prayers and certain events, and we take on such forms that are suitable for everyone. For everyone meaning a normal human form of our time without any religious symbols or other things. I cannot say what else needs to be. Tell me what else we need to do in order to make it easier for people to come to us, join us in our studies, all the kinds of courses or study groups we have for beginners in all languages, and certainly if possible we will. I don't know what else we can do to make things easier for people who want to come closer. Tell me, is there something? I will be happy to hear. Turn with it to the management and they will certainly be happy to hear whatever good advice you have.

6. S. (20:38) When I disseminate I'm imagining to myself that everyone will sit and study the wisdom of Kabbalah and by that come closer to the Creator. But it's so opposite from human nature that just wants to run from suffering, to know less and everything. So what’s going to be with all that?

R. You don't need to study. If people are able to disconnect between them in order to reveal the Creator, the upper force by connecting and not studying, so why study? We study in order for us to better organize ourselves during the study and draw the Creator to us and us towards Him. Ultimately, we are bringing these two together, the group of humanity as one man opposite the Creator on the one hand. You have to bring them close, nothing else.

S. When I disseminate what should I imagine to myself, what should be the picture before me?

R. That you are bringing together all of humanity as one man, Adam HaRishon and you want to bring them closer to the Creator. Just like it was in the beginning of creation but now when you bring that man closer together you do it with all of the evil inclination that has unfolded in it. That's it.

7. S. (22:24) Baal HaSulam writes that all of humanity will connect as one man with one heart full of the knowledge of the Creator. How can you even depict such a state?

R. It will gradually appear to all how the whole world is part of a single system and a single upper force that governs it and manages it. Humanity has no form and no path and no greater goal than being connected between everyone and with the Creator. That everyone comes back to the state there was before creation but with a greater egoistic desire that’s opposite the connection, and humanity overcomes it and achieves connection, and that’s basically the final goal that cannot be realized if not by overcoming by each and every person towards connection. There is no other way to make it happen.

S. What does it mean to say that we are in one heart being filled with the knowledge of the Creator? Even in the ten it’s hard to reach such a state between us. To speak about the general Society? How can this happen that there’s a complete knowledge of the Creator to everyone?

R. The moment we begin through the ten we start receiving the qualities of the Creator when He starts dressing into us more and more. Then we will begin to discover all of the manners and new forms of behavior that will take us to a different kind of society, where the Creator exists based on the character of society.

S. The question is, there is a transition between the ten and the general group?

R. All of us will want to understand the importance of connecting between us. In the multitude of people is the greatness of the King. The more individual tens want to reveal the Creator they will feel a need to connect.

S. Connecting our world group of Bnei Baruch, this I can imagine. Let’s say in a congress, we have a big congress you can depict something like that with all the friends in the world. That there's one aspiration, one mutual atmosphere, one mood.

R.  When all of that is done by the Creator through just changing a small intention, it’s a very small light that doesn’t even have to awaken everyone. What is the big deal about it? I don't understand how you as a modern person don’t see that that is doable. If the Creator changes His attitude to humanity just a little bit, everyone once again starts being afraid of Covid or something else. Everyone starts limiting themselves again. It’s not a problem to do. Who are we? All together we are just under two forces, pleasure, and pain and by these two forces we can be managed in every direction without any mind or emotion towards anything else. Just pleasure and pain. Therefore, all we need between pleasure and pain is to build ourselves in such a way that we’ll want to be above pleasure and pain, belonging to the same source that governs us by either pleasure or pain, and that source is the Creator.

8. S. (27:44) A lot of groups in the world see the knowledge of the Creator in their eyes and it causes wars. So how do we prevent ourselves from rejecting the quality to see others as doing it wrong?

R. Only by connecting and advancing.

9. S. (28:20) According to our opinion most of the friends already understand that we will not be able to reach connection without the Creator's help. So to come to the lesson with that demand for connection, is that the prayer He’s waiting for?

R. Not only do we need to come to the lesson with such a demand to the Creator but day and night, every day we need to arrange such an attitude to the Creator that He will correct us and fulfill us with His reason. That’s what we need, to always be addressing the Creator, but all of us together, otherwise He doesn’t hear.

S. Are we speaking about the ten?

R. At least in the ten, after that all of us together.

10. S. (29:35) He writes, and it puzzles me that not only did they not make the state easier, but it worsened, the malady and agony and voices went up to the heavens.

R. This is like what Baal HaSulam writes about the third and fourth world wars and all of the wars of the Messiah, meaning that states will be very bad.

S. So there was a time that the wisdom of Kabbalah was unknown, only from the ARI. Why do we need to suffer if we don't even know how to work? Also, today many people don’t know what Kabbalah is, so why should they suffer?

R. True, true, because there is an awareness on the levels of root, 1, 2, 3, 4 of the will to receive in the individual and in the whole of humanity. On the levels of root, one and two the source of suffering is yet unclear. Not just the source of suffering, what is especially unclear is the reason. Why is this happening? Let’s say coronavirus emerged. Why? It appeared somewhere, let's say China. Why? We don't know. Then suddenly it stops, maybe now it reawakens. So we don't know, we don't know. All we know is that each and every trouble that arises also has four levels of development besides its root. So there’s root and 1, 2, 3, 4. So that’s how we should look at things. There is nothing to ask about it because it's all included in the Creator having the first and last state of humanity. So He puts humanity through this process from the first state to the last state. In the first state we are all at zero, and in the last state we are at 100 percent of adhesion and fulfillment of the Creator. So we have to grow a very great will to receive within us, and that will to receive has to be filled with all kinds of pleasures, specific pleasures and thus it has to go through many processes.

S. So Baal HaSulam just says there's no other advice but to work towards the Creator. So now we have to disseminate, otherwise whether they know it or not (our role) we have to do it, no matter if they know it or not.

R. In the end of the day it is said they shall all know me from the greatest to the least of them.

S. How will they get to such a thing?

R. Specifically through the suffering, that’s it, by suffering. That should be enough for you. Think about it and if you don't think about it that's good too because suffering will bring you to a state where you will know and understand. Instead of me answering you, you will answer yourself by blows. Soon you will see how that happens.

S. We're not eating hummus anymore.

R. Why?

S. Because there’s Corona so we can’t come. 

R. Ah, that’s right.

11. S. (33:51) According to what I heard and read when you came to the Rabash you didn't go through any introductions or course you just started studying. So what is different today that new students have to go through courses?

R. Look, I came to a home in the evening, in the rain, in the dark. Like six or seven old guys were sitting there, none less than 70 years old and they studied. I didn’t understand anything they were saying, they all had dentures, and everybody was speaking in a language that I didn’t understand. When I asked if they studied Kabbalah here they said yes, sit. That’s how it was. So I sat down with them in a room maybe I don't know twenty meters, even less and six or seven old guys sat there at a big table, that’s it. After they were done studying, whoever sat at the head of the table asked what do you want? I came with my friend. I told him we want to study Kabbalah. He says okay, here we study Kabbalah; I will give you someone to study with, and he turned to one of the old guys that was sitting next to him and said here, you take them and teach them. He said okay, when do you want to come? I thought we were going to study right away so I said okay tomorrow. So he said okay tomorrow, good, come at 6, 7 p.m. something like that because my friend used to work for a whole day. We said okay we came the next day, and that old guy was already in that house, the one who had to teach us. He took us to the side again, we sat down, he was on one side, we were on the other side of a long table, and he gave us books and we started studying. It was the Preface to the Wisdom of Kabbalah, that’s it. We started studying, that's how it started. It didn't have any order in their studies. Afterwards sometimes when we had time we used to come in and study with all the order, the old men. They studied all kinds of things, Zohar, and TES and that’s it. We took it slow and when I got into all these things and started scrutinizing what they had, then I saw they had the introductions and the articles and the letters, and a lot of material that you could study. Why you are studying, what for, in what way to study and so on, and then we started studying something new, not only lights and vessels but why we need to study, especially how to advance to the purpose of the studies. That’s how it happens. Today also when people come, they come with a lot of questions.

S. So if I can continue, what’s different today that a new student can’t go directly into the daily lesson and sit and study, but he has to go through different courses and introductions and only then? 

R. First of all, today we have a big system. Back then there was no organization of Bnei Baruch, there wasn't a big society and there weren’t managers. Today everything is organized. That’s why. I can’t say but I think that everything that’s happening today is an order for everyone, men women, beginners, veterans, they can all come and find, each one for himself the right place for them to advance with the knowledge of the wisdom of Kabbalah, implementing it in a way that they can attain the upper world.

S. I am asking on behalf of a person I know. There are many people who were not even in a certain framework, they just turn on the lesson and listen, even if they don't understand. The question is from a person's perspective why does he have to go through a course? Why can’t he just come to the lessons like you came to the lessons?

R. Ask the organizers, they will tell you better than me. With due time we saw that a person who comes, many people come, they're all different. One has a tendency for technology, one for culture or education, all kinds of different forms. Then we have to accept them, we have to prepare them, to straighten them and then they can enter a serious form of study of the Preface, TES, Baal HaSulam’s introduction. It's not simple. They need to know the language, the language of Kabbalah. That's why this is what we did. How can you take a person and let him study even what we're studying now? This language is difficult, he’s not used it. A person off the street isn’t used to such a language.

S. Doesn't he come up with some kind of deficiency?

R. The deficiency doesn't help him because he does not understand the language, he does not understand the language. That is why there was a problem. We have reached what we have today, we have all these courses in order to help people advance and bring them quicker afterwards into the path. Like you have school and then people go to the university. So there is no choice. It is not because we want it to happen that way.

12. S. (41:40) He writes that humanity has to reach the thought of the Creator like he thought about them before creation. How us, being created opposite, will think good about Him?

R. We have to understand this system that is entirely revealed in us, in our corrupted vessels and then in order to correct ourselves we need to change the connection between us and build a  system that is such that can perceive the upper system. We need between us to build a system of connection between us, a net of connections between us that in that net we will start discovering a system of the upper world. That is like a radio where we can absorb waves from the sky like a plate that is full of waves, and it concentrates the waves with its mirror and absorbs them inside and can learn what is happening with the wave somewhere. So we too have to make of ourselves such a receiver. That receiver is the ten. Without the ten we won’t be able, we won't be able to receive anything. That’s why, that’s how we are building ourselves. Kabbalists advise us to do that.

S. What is the attitude I should have towards humanity and those who surround me every day?

R. I don't bother them with my studies, and I am not trying to pull them into my studies. As much as they want it at one point I can help them, that’s how it is.

13. S. (44:42) So the question is how can we prevent the situation similar to what the Nazis did when they tried to heal society by killing those that are not fit?

R. That is the opposite form of correction. That people are killed, whoever seems egoistic to other people  who see some things are not right about them. That's why all those people come against the connection, against Judaism, against socialism let's say the true socialism, not what they want to call socialism today.

14. S. (45:46) Can we come to such correction that people from outside, it will be good enough with the explanation that through actions of connection and good relationship to the others, that will be enough for them? That they can connect and together with the ego they will find the place where they don't feel suffering and pain, without going into all of the wisdom of Kabbalah but in a basic way?

R.  If people want to relate good to one another and overcome the ego between them in a way that it won't disturb them to be in connection, then in the connection between them they will be able to reveal the Creator. In order to reveal the Creator they need a strong connection. That the connection will be strong and will reveal in them a big egoistic desire. They will start to want to kill one another like Rabbi Shimon’s students. Then they will need a method how to connect above the hatred. For that they already need to be organized like in a group that studies Kabbalah. They will need to draw the upper force to connect between them otherwise they will really suffer and kill each other. That is why because they have no choice, it’s like what happened to us through thousands of years that we’ve developed. That we saw there is no choice, and we need methods to connect between all kinds of people. Today there are a lot of methods but look what is happening. There is no choice. You cannot stop humanity and say don't come close, it’s better that they will remain in such a state on such a level of ego, you can’t. Humanity's advancing. You see how today they're coming closer to such a big ego from all ages of the world. People and nations are becoming more and more egoistic. It’s an advancement, it’s advancement. Just like you see on the child, and you are happy that he's developing in such a way, you have to see that in humans, in whole nations.

S. Another question please. [no translation for part of this question]

R. You want to limit humanity that they will not develop anymore? That is what you want!? It will not work because there's the purpose of creation, there’s a final form for human development and you're speaking nonsense. It won't happen, it just won’t happen. Because this final form exists already.

15. S. (49:30) Good morning teacher I wanted to ask about the relationship to the friends who don't want to change what they have in this world. They feel good, they don't want to change anything about it.

R. Leave them the way they are, you cannot shake them up, you can’t. You can just in a passive way here and there make sure they have a different environment, maybe a book, maybe a clip of something. Then let it work on them. More than that you can’t. Not in force. 

Reading (50:30) “Immediately following what the prophet says…”

16. R. (51:39) You see how he turns things around and doesn't go directly and sharpen to the point, we need to understand that he still can talk about this in such a way, everything is vague.

Reader Continues (51:56)

17. R. (53:02) So things are not clear, they're very vague.

Reader Continues (53:07)

18. R. (54:47) Everyone, the whole world has to reach connection and that is really the blessing of our fathers. It is a huge blessing from above that can sustain all that abundance that fills all people, all of humanity revealing the Creator to them and all his wholeness.

R. I understand that you understand me and we might and somewhat understand Baal HaSulam that had no choice but to blur out this whole matter, that is why he is turning to all kinds of sources and all kinds of things that as Isaiah’s prophesy and so on, we are really in the lack of faith and lack of knowledge and for now we just accepted in a way that even though it is The Peace article, the peace is still far from us.

19. S. (56:06) If you can explain how to reconcile what he says here that Israel will not merit peace until there is peace in the world, on the other hand he says we need a small nation to start with that will achieve peace and will be an example for the rest of the world?

R. There are two degrees that the nation of Israel first are all those who yearn for the Creator that they build between them this system that entirely is in mutual responsibility and Arvut and the Creator can be revealed in them and from that force that the Creator was revealed in them, they can bestow from the Creator to the rest of the world that blessing of the peace.

S. But here he says that they could not merit peace until the world is awarded first?

R. That is not a problem because they are only doing it on the condition to be that conduit, the pipeline to the rest of humanity.

20. S. (57:36) It says that the angels weigh to the pleasures that exist in their tower, what does it mean that angels weighed?

R. Is the forces of nature, please scrutinize questions that are more clear to everyone, don't be a scholar, the forces of nature need to be scrutinized from the smallest to the greatest and this way advance.

21. S. (58:17) What does it mean to know the Creator?

R. To know the Creator means that we discover the system and the lights in the system enter the system and settle down and then we know the system on behalf of the system itself and on behalf of the lights that fill it and that is called to feel the complete knowledge.

22. S. (58:48) Why does it say in the way that the Angels asked about the feast and the tower, why did they discover such a system of forces in such a primitive way?

R.  I don't want to hear this kind of question..

23. S. (59:04) Why specifically the peace is the blessing?

R. I don't understand the question, why is the peace the blessing, peace comes from the word wholeness and to reach wholeness we can only do with the blessing of the Creator.

24. S. (59:39) What is the goal of the study to awaken the light that reforms or try to understand Baal HaSulam?

R. The purpose of the study is to bring the light the reforms.

25. S. (59:56) The article writes about the meriting the blessings of the next world. There is the feeling that we want to bestow without the reward, how to be able to receive gifts from the Creator and be able to give to him?

R. To receive gifts from the Creator we can when we build society that can absorb the Creator's attitude towards us which is called a blessing.

26. S. (01:00:29) All of Baal HaSulam’s prophecies and yours come true. Is there no chance to save the world from wars?

R. There is a chance, it depends on us. Even this current war that is taking place now in Eastern Europe.

27. S. (01:00:54) Baal HaSulam writes that envy and hate will be erased from humanity. Why then we should be envious? Shouldn't we delete it from our memory?

R. We can’t increase our vessels without envy.

S. So what envy does he talk about that we should erase?

R. Is the one that you want to lower the other.

28. S. (01:01:25) Will the nations remain in the final correction or there will be one nation?

R. Everyone will remain till the end of correction as one nation with one desire and there won't be any contradictions or anything on the contrary, all the discernments that will be revealed later in the future so people can connect even more to one another.

29. S. (01:01:58) When teaching people to connect they need to understand that the purpose is revelation of the Creator?

R. Yes, everyone will have to know that.

30. S. (01:02:15) How much do you think we need to make time for dissemination and make time for studying?

R. I cannot say, it also depends on the time, the state, it is a problem. But each and everyone needs to weigh in his heart what is better for his group and what is better for the world and not that he should weigh what is good and convenient for him.

31. S. (01:02:57) You said why study if we can connect and that's sufficient, but we like wisdom and the study, is that redundant?

R. No it's not redundant but you have to try to connect the studies to what you're doing and if you're studying and not implementing the studies, it is going to be for your detriment.

32. S. (01:03:21) Reviewing the uncorrected records is always the suffering?

R. Revealing uncorrected records depends on preparation, if a person knows that uncorrected records are being revealed and he can correct them in advance so it's not for suffering, it is for happiness.

R. So I am asking to choose your questions better and not accept scholar questions like you study and if you can, so you have to be changed to someone else, but it is a mess for it to happen for the benefit of the audience, that is it.

33. R. (01:04:18) First of all we gave a lot of time to scrutinize the two lines the friends brought us for scrutiny on the one hand, on the other hand I am happy that it's how it is, because really it gives, try, and listen to it again and see how important it is. That is one thing second, what I am asking is I am asking, I mean sorry that I didn't give here and there to some friends with questions, not letting a few ask, even though I'm trying and making sure that nobody will remain without a place to ask and that is it. I have nothing else to say, we are advancing, we're really advancing, if we see as much as we are scrutinizing every day, if we try to connect every day to the days we have already went through, so we will see how we are walking ahead and we will advance again, except for that that in a few hours, we can connect again between us and then we will continue on or something else.

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