Morning Lesson August 22, 2022 Transcription
Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio
Baal HaSulam. A Handmaid Who Is Heir to Her Mistress (Two Harms from Revealing Israel’s Wisdom to the Nations of the World)
Reading A Handmaid Who Is Heir to Her Mistress (Two Harms from Revealing Israel’s Wisdom to the Nations of the World) “They have done two harms..”
1. R. (02:48) That's how Baal HaSulam explains to us what is the problem of the wisdom of Kabbalah, that first of all the wisdom itself is written in a very difficult style, people don't exactly know how to interpret it and prepare it and present it to common people, to the masses, and the other problem is that there are additional wisdoms around us, so there they explain different forms that are simpler and more sensitive and closer to a person, and that is why people are drawn to it and accept it, and later it's tough for them to come to the wisdom of Kabbalah and engage in it, and besides that, if we're talking about our time and billions of people around us are engaged with various different opinions, compared to the wisdom of Kabbalah and Kabbalah is unclear, it doesn't receive proper explanation or publicity.
It's not being explained and people are not being drawn to it and even if people come to it, they are being rejected and they tell them they have to have certain conditions to study and so on and so forth, that was the case for thousands of years, as a result people developed different methods. Whereas we say the ego swallows everything and vomits it out, we come to a state where there is no other choice but the wisdom of Kabbalah has to be revealed, because it's the wisdom of truth, that's how it's called during our times. And that's how we will receive it, read it again.
Reading (05:28) again
2. S. (08:08) He says here that the stages of Israel concealed the wisdom of Kabbalah, I remember when I studied the wisdom of Kabbalah they sold me red strings and holy water and I was sure that that was the truth, before I came to you, but really no one disseminates the wisdom of Kabbalah like Bnei Baruch or Rav Laitman do, with the reforming light and all the things that you teach about, for thirty years I had no idea that it exists until I found out that Rav Laitman exists, so why is it that way?
R. Well I can't tell you why is it that way also Baal HaSulam says so, as it is written here, I can just tell you one thing, I remember the day when I came to Tel Aviv from Rehovot to buy different things for my clinic, and I see this big kind of billboard and it says there, lecture in the wisdom of Kabbalah and an address.
I immediately went to that place, of course it wasn't the time of the lecture or anything and I bought all the books and I registered for that lecture, just one lecture, I didn't go there anymore afterwards, it was Berg’s Institute, The Berg Center, and I saw that really there is more to develop in that direction and I couldn't because I was among all the ultra-orthodox Jews in the city of Rehovot, and no one talked about it, and no one has said anything about excetera excetera, and later on already I was directed to Rabbi Silverman in Jerusalem, and that's how I learned, I studied, that's how I found Rabash, as I've written about in one of my books. But what I want to say is that, the ways there are very tangled and twisted, they're not straightforward and direct, but he who wants to get there, does.
We don't exactly know how to give an answer to the question of, why did the Creator arrange many other Thelogists and different religions and Theology and Psychology and different things, that it's also mixed and confused and all these people, but all in all as I understand this, it is in order to bring all people closer, whoever it is, any species, race, it doesn't matter who to bring them closer to the wisdom of Kabbalah, because whoever it is, man or woman, or closer or further away, from Honolulu or from wherever, these people, for them it's a problem to understand the wisdom of Kabbalah and the Creator wants for all people to come with all the different types of characters and nature that he gave everyone, and from all parts of the world, and precisely from those places where they can accumulate all the different character and the unique will to receive that exists in all those places, because later on in their connection they will become in one vessel for the complete revelation of the Creator.
S. How can a person know that he reaches a true place? You discovered after a few months that you came to a place that was a lie, for me it took 30 years, so how did you discover it, how did you know this one place was false and Rabash was the truth?
R. No, I was engaged for 4 or 5 years in the regular study, and I thought I was doing something there, until I understood that that was nothing, it is a problem but these are exactly the paths that we need to traverse, you can’t say anything about the past, only it was certainly done by the Creator and it was arranged for you and for me and for each and every one.
S. Are there signs that a person sees that he knows that that is truth, or he has to feel it on the inside or how does it work?
R. What you see today, we are open in every possible way and how many people come to us?
S. Many also run away?
R. The fact that people also run away, I don’t lament the fact, because they absorb something, they get something, it stews in them, and they’ll come again later, I saw it when I was with Rabash.
S. But today for example do you see that more people are joining the wisdom of Kabbalah more seriously?
R. Time changes, people change. When I asked Rabash one time, what to do, how will people come, to the wisdom of Kabbalah, to the correction of the world and the correction of the self? Rabash said they are missing troubles, that was his answer, they are missing troubles, a person in the will to receive if he feels good, he wouldn’t budge a finger.
S. Because we're not selling anything people ask, will things be better for me as a result of the study, you’re saying I don’t promise nothing?
R. I don't have any red strings to sell, I'm sorry.
3. S. (15:32) We have learned that the wisdom of Kabbalah is the source for all religions, where was the correct corruption and where did it happen?
R. Why corruption?
S. That’s what it says, in the revelation of the wisdom of Israel to the nations, the harm.
R. No, these are constant corruptions in everything from the first man, Adam, and onward, there's both revelations and corruptions, you can not have one unless it’s balanced with the other.
S. But it says that Rabbi Shimon wept and what is this all about?
R. It says that if he will reveal, more people will be satisfied with that and not go forward, rather they will just deal with mysticism and other things like that and that's how they will understand it. Just try to explain to an average person alive in this world today about spiritual matters, he won't be able to grasp it, he won’t, he doesn’t understand what we're talking about. The point in the heart, only one point is holding him, only then he isn't running away and he's willing to revolve around that point for several years, until he enters. How many people do we have with such a strong point in the heart, such an inner point?
S. We too, for dissemination purposes, need to explain without using our message, without using the wisdom of Kabbalah, excetera. How do we explain things without corrupting the message?
R. Try, you understand people, you understand the wisdom of Kabbalah to some extent, try to explain as much as he can, using his language.
4. S. (17:52) How to define but we study that will distinguish our studies and protect us?
R. You need to think about that as well. We are learning the wisdom of Kabbalah according to the method Baal HaSulam because Baal HaSulam merely gave some interpretation on day ARI so that's it. That is what we are studying.
S. There are many commentaries where people interpret Baal HaSulam,do we have to add something?
R. What interpretations?
S. People comment on Baal HaSulam and the ARI according to how they see things, and that's why I am asking if there is something that we need to add in order to separate ourselves distinguish ourselves?
R. I don't think so, we just need to study the way we study. The important thing is the path of how to reach adhesion to the Creator which is what Baal HaSulam explains to Shamati. The book Shamati that Rabash wrote took place from what he heard from him. That's it. That's the main thing. Studying in the group according to what Rabash wrote, the articles that he wrote about how to connect with the group and maintain the connection and advance.
5. S. (19:42) What does the ego find in the wisdom of Kabbalah and how do you distinguish between wisdom that Nations believe and those who don't?
R. A person finds in the wisdom of Kabbalah a certain answer for himself. Either to his ego who is interested in all kinds of mysticism and other things. Why does he need to know because he will also reach the devil. Baal HaSulam, he wants to know what is happening here, happening there, and so on and so forth. We understand that, how do you see if someone is serious about it or not? We need to make room for everyone. And then he himself chooses to stay or to go.
S. How do you distinguish between wisdom in the nations who believed and those that don't?
R. A person is going to see the Gentile or Jew. Gentile means he only has a will to receive and he works only according to the will to receive and a Jew, he's the one looking for Unity, Yehud with the Creator through the Ten. Just as the Kabbalists explained to us, in the Zohar, and certainly Baal HaSulam. We have to see it in this way. Where is a person inclined, towards here or there. Give him time and space out of him to get to know him, to choose and to continue.
6. S. (21:47) How is what he talks about here? Where is the reason for Kabbalah?
R. That they want to replace the wisdom of Kabbalah with theology. We wish to explain that all the other religions have the same thing, the science of Kabbalah.
S. Baal HaSulam gave us an example with 8 billion etc. or something. Is this related to anything?
R. No, it has nothing to do with anything, He simply takes numbers that are more or less correct but it has nothing to do with anything.
7. S. (22:50) Baal HaSulam writes that great philologists in the nations of the world have to bring this complicated matter in simple words to people as opposed to the sages of Israel that keep it behind closed doors why?
R. Because if you ask now about the wisdom of Kabbalah there's also a common public opinion that you should disclose it, you shouldn't talk about it and you should not study it, that is how it has been for thousands of years. When the nations of the world are the opposite. Although the younger evolution of theology but they have a great little strength, that's a power and this was advertised and the audience wou;d encourage it. However, in the wisdom of Kabbalah, even if you deal with it, most of them will tell you there's no need for it. Why do you need it?
S. The question is today with us going into the last generation. isn't there supposed to be like a flip instead of hiding wisdom?
R. An inversion for whom? Those who wish to engage in it. Those who don't wish to engage in it with the same admissions that existed with the people of Israel and he continues with them. It says its forbidden, etc.
S. In terms of dissemination do we need to bring these things closer?
R. We need to bring things closer and publish the wisdom and disseminate the books. Do everything, so everyone will know, everyone I mean, both the nation of Israel and the nations of the world. Everyone should know that this wisdom is open to everyone.
S. Do you still feel that there is a rejection for the concept of the wisdom of Kabbalah?
R. Sometimes yes,I hear about it from people who are intelligent, healthy, normal, not from the young generation but also not from the really old generation. When I was at the beginning of my path, in my thirties, there were many people who resisted accepting those things. There are parts from the Zohar that it is customary to read daily so people, the masses read it daily. It is called the law for Israel
S. The attitude to the wisdom of Kabbalah overtime is going to change. Will people accept it more or be respected or will there always be a rejection by part of the nation that is going to be like this. Whether he's running towards the good cloud covering the wisdom?
R. Rabash said simply they're missing troubles. A person one just comes on his own. There wish to engage in it has r be let's say a million dollars or is it the opposite of the blows. either he's drawn to the good or he's running away from the troubles.
S. I don't think a million dollars will be coming any time soon. Are we on our way to trouble?
R. No, we have to keep doing what we are doing, to build a society around the planet which is the last generation to continue, to study and to connect to them. The Light that accumulates to our connection gradually will also draw humanity to us and the Creator will do everything.
8. S. (27:38) Is it allowed or worthwhile to simply take an article by Baal HaSulam, the basic articles, and to convey the message in your words or it’s forbidden to?
R. No, no, I don't know how to do it, if someone wants to do it he should and he should show us that people will understand how to approach the general public writing and pass it through let's say and then we'll see.
9. S. (28:26) Baal HaSulam refers to the ratio between eight million and fifteen million. When he wrote it the population of the world was two and a half billion. The question is did he write it for our generation because only now are we eight billion?
R. He's giving you an example it doesn't matter the numbers, yes there you have plenty and we have few and this is the reason they're more successful and for them the dissemination is it's held high and is being encouraged and it’s not the same for us and more and more it doesn't relate to the number so much of course there you have more than here we have less, what are you getting stuck on the numbers like some mantra.
S. Because precisely now we are eight billion.
R. Calm down, understand that you're not paying attention to what’s important.
Reading (30:02) “ Wo if I tell..”
10. R. (30:48) Meaning that yes we need to beware that if we publicize things incorrectly they can reappropriate them in such a way that it will simply confuse the many and they fell to them.
Reading (31:21) “The Reason for the Concealment of Kabbalah..”
11. R. (32:25) Yes in order to not have any corruption in the understanding of the wisdom of Kabbalah and then will continue to interpret it in all directions it was agreed to conceal it for a certain time.
Reading (32:52) “A Handmaid Who Is Heir to Her Mistress..”
12. R. (33:44) Meaning the fact that in place of the wisdom of Kabbalah we have all kinds of other wisdoms including the one that is now in Israel that everyone engages in instead of the wisdom of Kabbalah, this is holding back the correction and extending the exile. Let's read it again
Reading (34:13) “A Handmaid Who Is Heir to Her Mistress..”
Reading (35:12) “Chains of Exile..”
13. R. (35:47) Meaning all the power that all the other methods have except for the wisdom of Kabbalah because after all they were all speaking of Godliness, how to approach Him, how to discover Him, we don't speak about it because really only the wisdom Kabbalah speaks of the revelation of Godliness to a person but nevertheless all those things they're talking about all the opinions all the wisdoms, religions, they took all that from the wisdom of Kabbalah and we see where the Torah and all the other things have taken from, it’s clear and what he's talking about it’s also clear, he’s talking about the people of Israel and everything that’s happening to it and so on so and so forth and all those things they nevertheless have a time, you can say that they couldn't approach the truth but only in this way through theology and various religions that's why today we are very very close to corrections and to the end of correction.
14. S. (37:33) Why does Baal HaSulam focus on the order? It says that the exile is extended due to the war between theology and the wisdom of Kabbalah.
R. No, it’s how he kind of sets it up, it has nothing to do with it, o one is in any struggle this is no struggle on the contrary, we need to understand that everything comes from above and everything comes with the control of the Creator in order to bring closer the knowledge of unity and there's no one else besides Him and all those things to people.
So there's no other choice but to bring it to them in such a way like religions and belief systems he writes a lot about but in various places he doesn't wish to he didn't wish to concentrate and gave a one short explanation for it, but in-between we are today in state where it’s ready for us to take those things that to collect it together in one package for all humanity and we’ll be able to uplift ourselves higher above all the different beliefs and religions and nations and we’ll be able to bring ourselves to the general connection and to the one Creator.
S. What does the concept of increasing internality over externality include?
R. That we need to take nothing seriously decisively except for the connection of the hearts, internal connections, our desires that will connect it to one desire and then we will discover the upper force as it’s written one reveals one.
S. About dissemination, is there no fear that different practical implementations of the wisdom of Kabbalah that we sometimes explain that we sometimes explain the wisdom of Kabbalah through like economy, relationships, all different such things that do ABC, do this do that, different methods that we consider the wisdom of connection. Is there no fear of losing the internality of the wisdom when we close the wisdom in such concepts?
R. Look we also need to speak about things that are close to people, we need to give them something that’s clear that’s close to them, maybe a little sweet to them, there's no choice otherwise they won't be able to have any grasp in the wisdom of Kabbalah proper itself so what do you do?
S. That’s the question, how do you do it without losing the internality?
R. That's why you give that as well but a little bit of it what can you do?
S. I bet there are some but how?
R. Yes a little bit yes, how much are we talking about things that have nothing to do with attainment of the Creator.
S. We do but when we come out to the public the question is can we come out with very practical products that suit every person and every realm in life?
R. I don’t know what you’re talking about.
S. Like do this kind of workshop, raise your children like this, talk to your wife like that.
R. But it's not on the path of connection?
S. Connection of course but it lacks the entire depth.
R. You can leave all the depth at home, the way you're using it nobody probably knows how to use it and how can you explain it to common people when you’re opening all these different activities and you’re speaking as if you never set up any activity.
S. How not to lose the internality when we make this kind of product?
R. I think need to open up many activities, many circles, and each and every circle every activity has to have its own direction then you have an activity that speaks about music and dance, I’m just throwing words, and other things like that and then you have an activity that talks about reincarnations and history and the wisdom and you'll see where people come to, what are they engaged in, what do they want, and in this way you’ll be able to educate them but it's certain that there will be some people who will come to the simpler activities like how it is everywhere else.
You can’t give everyone only The Preface, Pticha, The Study of the Ten Sefirot, even with us it's not advancing a proper pace because we only wish to talk about the connection and the souls and the Creator because that’s where the crux of the matter is by connecting between us and then with the Creator from that we will discover everything that is written in TES. We will discover it on ourselves.
S. For example suppose we can come and teach people, we should talk in a certain way in your family and then you’ll see that resolves conflicts. Now I don't tell them about why connection et cetera I just simply told them like, hold this object talk in a circle and you'll see how the conflict is resolved. After they see it works they come up and ask ok how does it work, and then I explain to them, look there's the matter of connection, nature’s connected et cetera, is it possible?
R. I think it’s Idol worshiping.
S. That's what I'm asking because that’s what I understood from your words.
R. My words?
S. I just asked a few questions and I understood that it’s possible to make such a product .
R. You’re completely bonkers, did I say it like that? Maybe we can hear other people who heard it. Did I say it to turn things around and in this way we’ll get hocus pocus.
S. I didn't say that that’s what you said, I said that this is what I heard. The question is how do you not lose the internality?
R. I don’t know I’m not going to talk to you again because I see that your understanding of me is lopsided so why would I fill all of the lopsided boxes in your head?
S. I agree so the question is, so I asked what is the principle according to which I can examine that I'm not deviating?
R. It’s already late. We need to teach people everything, every rational thing and from these rational things we need to show them the connection to the wisdom of Kabbalah. When I explain to them about the relationships in the family then I explain to them what is the egoistic will to receive, how is it built according to which degrees and so on and so forth.
S. If they come up and say I have no patience to listen about how the will to receive works, nature’s contradiction between them, I need to connect, practically what do I need to do?
R. So go to our friends who are working in it and ask them, I didn’t build those courses, I never gave lectures to young couples and all those things it’s not my area of expertise. My area is to explain that we only need adhesion in order to attain the Creator simply one sentence.
15. S. (47:25) The Creator, He brought humanity to a state where it's no longer engaged in philosophy and stuff like, that also business, relationships, you know people are busy with trying to survive so what can you offer them?
R. So we need to approach a person from that direction where although we can arrange life on the planet in a good way we are unable to correct our nature. So how do we grab hold of our nature, tie it down, how do we organize life on this planet correctly, what are the laws a person has to uphold in order to have life according to man's nature but our life would be a good life explain to them.
S. Can a person hear? A person can barely make ends meet?
R. Look, of course it's tough to hear it but it's possible that he has no other choice but to listen to you but at least something, something will penetrate him, the Creator arranged it in such a way, we have no choice, we have to keep the system of dissemination.
S. Right, the Creator arranged in a way that it’s a blow to all of the humanity.
R. It’s not a blow yet it will be very very bad and then we will be able to open up the explanation and hear it.
S. This will be the only way that people will hear us?
R. Yes, a person will not hear from the good side only from the bad side and we have to approach him from the good so he will hear without entering the bad as much as possible.