Chapter Shmot, part 4

Chapter Shmot, part 4

Episode 58|2 apr 2012

“Secrets of the Eternal Book”

Video program with

Dr. Michael Laitman and

film director and scriptwriter Semen Vinokur.

Part 4, Chapter Shemot

Secrets of the Eternal Book. Shemot. Broadcast Four.

S. Vinokur: Hello, dear friends. We begin our program “Secrets of the Eternal Book”. Chapter “Names”.

SHEMOT, broadcast 4

Semen Vinokur, screenwriter and film director:

S. Vinokur: We are talking about Moses, about the point in the heart that pulls us out of our selfishness. As always here with us today is Dr. Michael Laitman. This is a very important chapter, we hindered here for a little bit, so it took us a little longer than usual. Well, it seems like this was necessary. This chapter is so essential, so to speak. We have made our way through the childhood of Moshe, this desire of ours. Now we have reached the point when he had grown up…

M. Laitman: Mm-mm.

S. Vinokur: …Moshe had grown up and a following detective story takes place within us.

“Now it came to pass in those days that Moshe grew up and went out to his brothers and looked at their burdens, and he saw an Egyptian man striking a Hebrew man of his brothers. He turned this way and that way, and he saw that there was no man; so he struck the Egyptian and hid him in the sand.” [Shemot 2:11-12]

Sounds like Agatha Christi. This murder here, what is it all about?

Michael Laitman, Professor, Kabbalist.

M. Laitman: Well, since a human being consists of egoistic and altruistic properties, and here we are already talking about truly altruistic properties…

S. Vinokur: Like Moshe?

M. Laitman: Yes. When the property is altruistic, it is fully devoted to bestowal and love of neighbor, whereas, naturally, egoistic desire strives only for its own sake. Moreover, not simply for its own sake, but at the expense of others, and precisely from this it gets pleasure. Here a person gets a dilemma: Should he/she continue advancing and let one of the properties prevail over the other? Basically, this question always comes up in us: Which of them is actually the right one? Why can’t the world just be...

S. Vinokur: …as it is now?

M. Laitman: Yes, as it is now; and we will use egoism as we usually do, in a normal way? We know that there were cultures, where it was forbidden to use something more than egoism. For instance, Sodom, or when they killed unhealthy infants in the ancient world.

S. Vinokur: In Sparta.

M. Laitman: Yes, in Sparta they had this custom apparently. Slaves were used and violently abused. Generally, the cult of power dominated above everything, and it was absolute coercion, pure calculation, no compassion, just a clear law of Nature. In addition, the whole personality, structure, attitude to life served to identify and realize this very principle: you must act only for the sake of your egoism. This is a whole life philosophy.

S. Vinokur: I am for myself and you are for yourself.

M. Laitman: That’s in the best case. And, besides, there is a distinct egoistic principle “a man is a wolf to a man”. Why not? Why should a man be a brother to a man? This is against our nature – brother – and a wolf is not against our nature. Let’s live according to our nature and go along with it. Who speaks about equality, brotherhood, love and so on? A person who is cut off from reality, from the matter…

S. Vinokur: Precisely, that’s just what people say.

M. Laitman: …whose attitude to life is completely unrealistic. His plans will never be realized. There will always be a problem with him. Finally, this will end up in some fratricidal wars, communist regimes, huge collapse, famine, red terror, starvation, and so on.

S. Vinokur: Word for word. This is exactly what people write to me on my blog.

M. Laitman: Yes, yes. And this is absolutely right. You say: go along with nature. “With nature” means to fully support egoism. Let’s identify all its features, all its laws, all its properties, and follow them accurately.

S. Vinokur: Follow (laughs).

M. Laitman: Maybe precisely in this we will attain absolute harmony. Just like we see how Nature supports animals and everything around it in the state of equilibrium. Indeed, it defines that someone is more, someone is less, someone is stronger, someone is weaker, who should eat whom, what comes for breakfast and what for lunch.

S. Vinokur: Each in its place.

M. Laitman: Exactly. So let us too arrange everything using the egoistic property only. Maybe, precisely this altruistic inclination, all those humanitarian tendencies are the ones that spoil our whole life? Let’s remove them from our lives.

S. Vinokur: Well, how are you going to get out of this dead end? You have almost convinced me, to be honest.

M. Laitman: Yes, of course.

S. Vinokur: You were so convincing now, explaining that this is the way our world is.

M. Laitman: It is, indeed.

S. Vinokur: So? Now, this is getting interesting.

M. Laitman: So, let’s live like this.

S. Vinokur: Maybe indeed, let’s live like this?

M. Laitman: The thing is, we can’t.

S. Vinokur: We can’t?

M. Laitman: We can see that in the still, vegetative, and animal world this equation, this homeostasis is being kept. The equilibrium is maintained. No one eats the other, or more than is needed. So egoism here is serving to support the equilibrium in Nature. However, with humans it’s different. If only we would use our egoism like animals do, not more and not less…

S. Vinokur: Our instinct, that is.

M. Laitman: That’s right. Then we really would be on the animate level and we indeed would have to act like this. That’s why we were developing in this way in the first place, up to the point when our egoism started to develop on a human level. This means we started to use it on a much larger scale than it was necessary to lead a normal life. At this moment we already started to destroy each other, destroy senselessly.

S. Vinokur: True.

M. L. That’s why such a society, which is based only on egoistic laws, can’t exist. We can verify this observing nature.

S. Vinokur: So, you are saying, the society is coming to an end.

M. Laitman: The entire crisis that we are having today brings us to this realization. It happens, because we are using this human superstructure, which is built over the animal part in us, to cultivate our egoism. It is then that we start to destroy ourselves. We have no other choice. Ironically, we arrived at a state, when we can’t work only with egoism – with nature and with ourselves alone. Since we are not animals, we don’t work instinctively. In contrast to them, our egoism is constantly developing. We can’t use egoism in its natural form, as it is, because it would lead us to constant crises, wars, mutual destruction and it has no end, in principle. This means, we have only one solution: use this human superstructure, which emerges in us, in a totally different way, that is, with the goal to achieve equilibrium. To do this, however, we need to know the program of Nature, its properties. We need to capture these properties, properties of balance, properties of bestowal and love, which we ourselves do not possess [they exist in us only in an egoistic form directed solely towards oneself]. Only then we'll be able to do something.

S. Vinokur: How do you know that properties of Nature are bestowal and love?

M. Laitman: I can see it just on the basis of what we explore in the world around us. The nature doesn’t seek to destroy species. It always tries to sustain them, to give them a way to co-exist. That is to say the way of nature, its tendency, is to constantly maintain equilibrium. These are already laws from the second law of thermodynamics, from the law of entropy and so on. We can observe this in still, vegetative and animate nature.

S. Vinokur: So destruction is a purely human property, isn’t it?

M. Laitman: Destruction, not in the name of continuing life and maintaining balance, but namely for the sake of our increased egoism, sub-animate [level of] egoism that we possess.

S. Vinokur: Nowadays, people are starting to realize this on a theoretical level. So we have hit a sort of a dead end, right?

M. Laitman: Correct.

S. Vinokur: This was such a concept of Nature, to make us reach a deadlock?

M. Laitman: I have just received dozens of pages with all kinds of statements… Mostly from economists, politicians, and other such people, not philosophers or psychologists – they speak in such a way… everything is already evident.

S. Vinokur: Yes, indeed. That is, now, when Moshe came out and killed an Egyptian. “He turned this way and that way … and hid him in the sand.” [Shemot 2:12]. [Lets look at] this scene here. He killed…

M. Laitman: …buried in the ground, and wrote an inscription… [Quote from a famous Russian nursery rhyme].

S. Vinokur: Wrote an inscription (laughs). That means, we – in us – with help of this property [called Moshe]… looking at the world as if through this property – by this we “kill an Egyptian”

M. Laitman: Yes, our own Egyptian. There is no other way, because we begin to realize, that these two properties start working against each other. We can no longer act as Egyptians. This is pure egoism, which only works in one manner - individually. We also can’t work with pure altruism…

S. Vinokur: With Moshe?

M. Laitman: Yes – on which basis? We have to work using the influence of one [property] upon the other.

S. Vinokur: But how did this turning point come into existence? Now, maybe, we can connect it to this world? Moshe lives like a normal person, pasturing sheep or whatever. Suddenly, he sees “hard labor" [Exodus, 1:11].

M. Laitman: He discovered within that his egoism is killing this altruistic inclination. Moreover, he couldn’t do anything about it.

S. Vinokur: He would have lived like that on and on, had he not felt this at some point.

M. Laitman: A human can’t simply live on. As he sees that…

S. Vinokur: So, one day this point, Moshe, arises in a person?

M. Laitman: Yes.

S. Vinokur: In every person?

M. Laitman: In every person. We are created in a way that in the end this property of bestowal always comes up.

S. Vinokur: This sounds like fairy tales to many people, when you say “in every person”, every person in the world. Here people start to get nervous. They say: what nonsense…

M. Laitman: No, it exists in everyone. It’s all superficial, that they are not feeling it at the moment.

S. Vinokur: This mean in one person this point might be hidden very deep inside, and in another one it is near the surface, to put it bluntly…

M. Laitman: Everything depends on the environment. It can be awakened very quickly.

S. Vinokur: But everyone has it?

M. Laitman: Yes.

S. Vinokur: After that a following story happens to Moshe. All of a sudden Jews tell on him. An argument takes place. Moshe comes out the next day. All at once Jews look at him and say… He says: “Why are you quarreling, guys?” And they: “You killed an Egyptian yesterday, right?” So Moshe gets nervous. “Pharaoh heard of this incident and he sought to kill Moses; so Moses fled from Pharaoh.”

M. Laitman: Yes.

S. Vinokur: So, it was Jews who snitched on him.

M. Laitman: Yes.

S. Vinokur: Our inner Jews.

M. Laitman: Yes. Of course, this is impossible to understand with the regular [interpretation of the] text, because Moshe is an adoptive grand son of the Pharaoh. He is a prince. He was raised… and, in any case, he is forty years old, grown up, so to speak. If we start telling this story with such a [literal] interpretation… Generally, people didn’t live for forty years in those times. All the Pharaohs we know about were…

S. Vinokur: …we know nineteen…

M. Laitman: Twenty one, twenty two, twenty three years at most. That’s all; the lifespan wasn’t more than that. People didn’t live that long. Some 200 years ago people lived up to forty years, on average.

S. Vinokur: One more clue, that shows, it’s not about history.

M. Laitman: No, no, of course not. To live until 120 in those times… This never happened. What’s interesting, indeed, according to the story the Pharaoh kills his adoptive grandson, who grew up with him for forty years. He wants to kill Moshe because of some random Egyptian.

S. Vinokur: Of which he had thousands.

M. Laitman: Who cared for human life in those times? The reason is that when these egoistic and altruistic properties start to arouse and counteract in a person, then of course…

S. Vinokur: His egoism feels the threat.

M. Laitman: …his egoism turns against him and wants to kill him completely. As the egoism sees that the person starts kind of breaking off pieces from it.

S. Vinokur: So, for the time being, they walk hand in hand and even…

M. Laitman: …support each other

S. Vinokur: Support each other. Yes. Beloved grand son…

M. Laitman: Of course. This happens because the property of bestowal helps to fulfill the egoism. Hence the story tells us, that when the sons of Israel came to Egypt, it blossomed. It happened because the property of bestowal came into egoism. From that point on egoism could not just take from everybody, but to receive and to give. This is like international trade, development, and so on. This opens up absolutely different opportunities. This is what’s called the progress of civilization. Egypt blossomed at that time.

S. Vinokur: In the Big Commentary it says: “Moshe escaped, and Pharaoh sent his soldiers after him, but the Creator struck all of them blind. When the Pharaoh would ask: “Where is Moshe?” he received no answer, for every one who tried to answer became deaf and dumb. Thus Moshe, unscathed, fled from the land of Egypt”. This is such an interesting twist. What does it mean, that they can’t answer?

M. Laitman: As soon as the egoism is left alone, stripped from all altruistic intentions, working with which it could support itself, it’s just naked egoism. It has no clue where it is and what to do. It exists on an animate level and therefore can’t see.

S. Vinokur: [“Can’t see”] means that egoism receives no fulfillment. It also can’t hear.

M. Laitman: Can’t hear, can’t understand anything. This is a horrible state. Just as later those Egyptian plagues, darkness and so on.

S. Vinokur: Thus, Moshe finds his way to Midian. There he meets Yitro, who has seven daughters. Moshe marries one of his daughters, Zipporah. She bears him a son, Gershon, saying “I became a stranger in a foreign land”. So he becomes a stranger there. Here begins the very essence of Moshe’s return as a leader. From what does it begin?

“Now it came to pass in those many days that the king of Egypt died, and the children of Israel sighed from the labor, and they cried out, and their cry ascended to God from the labor. God heard their cry, and God remembered His covenant with Abraham, with Yitzchak, and with Yaakov. And God saw the children of Israel, and God knew.” [Exodus 2:23-4].

A new stage begins. A new Pharaoh arises, who doesn’t know them. What kind of a state is it – the rising of a new Pharaoh?

M. Laitman: This is a new stage of egoism, which a person perceives, when he advances. Before, he saw, that he could work with this egoism in order to fulfill himself. It was more or less normal. He used the property of bestowal for self-fulfillment. People who come to study, also Kabbalah, start to feel, see and perceive the world on a much wider, deeper level. For them it’s a kind of an expansion of consciousness. Then, however, they start feeling not so well, because, on the one hand: yes, I started to understand more, on the other hand, I became more confused. On the one hand, I started to feel more; on the other hand, the feelings became not so pleasant. I used to feel fine within my little framework, and now the framework grew larger. I don’t know what to do. I don’t know where I am, hanging, in mid air. All this is a new form, a new stage, a new step of egoism, which can no longer be fulfilled through regular actions, perceptions or feelings. Rather, it requires the revelation of the general program, understanding of the method of advancement, which no longer remains egoistic. Here you should feel supplementary forces inside of you, the property of bestowal. And then combining those you can understand how to progress. Before you understood this, the new Pharaoh seems terrible, of course. It is the human in you that he sort of destroys, suppresses.

S. Vinokur: Interesting. On the one side, a new world reveals itself, as you say. On the other side, the old world disappears out of sight. I say, how can a person, to put it bluntly, walk away from this? All of a sudden, leave everything and walk away? Frankly speaking, that has always surprised me. What does he come to?

M. Laitman: He should come to a state, when the whole world seems to him as if it’s located in his backyard, whereas the person himself is with his friends, with those, who are moving forward. This becomes the whole world for him.

S. Vinokur: No, the question is, where does he go? Where can he leave from this state? Here he is with his friends. The world lies in front of him. How can he leave? You say: Many leave. All of a sudden, drop everything and leave.

M. Laitman: Aha (understandingly).

S. Vinokur: Where does a person go? That’s interesting. Is his vision blocked?

M. Laitman: Yes, his vision is being blocked [from above].

S. Vinokur: Yes.

M. Laitman: And he leaves. He feels suddenly, that for proper advancement it’s absolutely necessary, for instance, to earn more.

S. Vinokur: That is, he still has some of those desires; they should be worked out, right?

M. Laitman: He has to work it out. Moreover, it’s not only him. He is connected to everyone. No one is acting on one’s own. That’s why he gets an urge to work out these desires. But now, due to this crisis, which is very tough… I have a feeling that by the end of 2012 there will be a most serious revelation…

S. Vinokur: Of evil?

M. Laitman: Yes. Well, it’s not evil. It’s, I would say…

S. Vinokur: That there is nowhere to retreat?

M. Laitman: Yes. Complete impasse.

S. Vinokur: Actually, this turns out to be a big help.

M. Laitman: On the one hand, it is a big help, on the other – it is a help only then, when you already have a clearly developed method, with which you can come out to people and which will be presented in a way that people will be able to easily accept.

S. Vinokur: Well, theoretically, people shouldn’t be left in complete darkness, when there is not the tiniest point of light somewhere? What’s it like – like standing behind the wall?

M. Laitman: No. There are two kinds of revelation of evil: either through blows or through rising awareness.

S. Vinokur: Therefore there is an increase in suicide rates. The human being…

M. Laitman: No, these are small things, suicide rates. Those are private, minor, lyrical disappointments.

S. Vinokur: Lyrical (in disbelief)? There is a wall in front of me!

M. Laitman: I understand. But it’s not the disasters, we read about.

S. Vinokur: …on a smaller scale, so to speak?

M. Laitman: Because a catastrophe that’s coming is an absolute and complete crisis in all areas of human activity. Such a crisis, that a person is left with nothing. They will resort to holding medieval views, images and relationships.

All people will realize that all that humanity did and developed is a complete deadlock. Moreover, all of this, let’s say, over the last several thousands of years, happened only to make us realize it is a dead end. That’s it. It’s that simple. "Hang on a minute, guys, we were wrong!"

S. Vinokur: How much time can be spent in a dead end? It can’t be long.

M. Laitman: Indeed, you can’t spend much time in a dead end, because it’s such disappointment, such aggravation of states, such anger, nerves…

S. Vinokur: So, if it breaks out, it will sweep everything away…

M. Laitman: …which if it breaks out, immediately leads to explosions, to war. More importantly, it’s global. It won’t happen somewhere in Europe, whereas in China it’s still calm and in America already finished. It’s a wave, which will roll over everyone simultaneously. Not roll. It will stand up in font of you like a wall, and that’s it. The problem here is to find the solution.

S. Vinokur: You are telling now about the natural development, right? Bluntly speaking - natural.

M. Laitman: That’s the way it will happen.

S. Vinokur: You don’t want to add any “if”?

M. Laitman: There is no “if”. That’s the way it will be. “If” will be if we manage to, through realizing the necessity, the causation, and the purposefulness of this state to put the human forward, to give him the light.

S. Vinokur: Then he will begin to rise above it.

M. Laitman: Then he will, yes, overcome this wave and move on. So the solution is very simple – the right connection between each other. If they pay attention to this crucial point, they will very soon appreciate that this is the only possibility to do something with humanity.

S. Vinokur: They have to realize the threat to begin with. Then…

M. Laitman: The threat they will see either way.

S. Vinokur: They will?

M. Laitman: Yes (assuredly).

S. Vinokur: The main thing, as you always say, is that a book, a program or whatever should be readily available at any time, so that a person could reach for it right away. That it’s available…

M. Laitman: This is our task.

S. Vinokur: …Internet and all.

M. Laitman: This is our task.

S. Vinokur: Everything has to be available at once. Then people suddenly start to hear.

M. Laitman: It will happen soon. I think during this year. Somewhere towards the end of the year all this will manifest itself seriously.

S. Vinokur: You also mark 2012 as a milestone.

M. Laitman: It’s not about the number, the thing is that all those problems, which they tried to conceal through money infusions and other tricks, will no longer be possible to keep undercover. There will be elections, re-elections and so on. All this artificial…

S. Vinokur: Disguise.

M. Laitman: Disguise, yes. It …

S. Vinokur: …will fall.

M. Laitman: …will fall. There will be no more possibility to do anything. But this time is necessary in order to realize we are in a deadlock, at least to those thousands of people today, who participate in corporations, governments, education etc. They are already aware that this impasse is final, and it is actually being perceived that way. It comes up in the press here and there and people start to hear it to some extent. But en masse people have to feel it in their own skin and that’s what will happen. In principle, purely conceptually millions and hundreds of millions of people in the world understand this already. All the same, they too, haven’t fully grasped it yet, and they continue by inertia to exist. So…

S. Vinokur: It has to be said, we are not talking about the year as a timeframe. We are talking about a state to which everything is progressing, by and large.

M. Laitman: Yes, but it has to be in this framework more or less.

S. Vinokur: Even though we call it so – like an approximation.

M. Laitman: Yes, I think somewhere towards the end of the year it will implode.

S. Vinokur: So, optimistically…

M. Laitman: On this optimistic note…

S. Vinokur: …we shall move on.

M. Laitman: The bifurcation point is a wonderful thing – as is always the birth of something new.

S. Vinokur: If you can relate to it this way. We have to relate to it this way. We need to tune the person in, so that he would adopt this approach

M. Laitman: He should feel a little of the state of eternity – that it exists. If he doesn’t feel it, than for him each little state like that is connected to the end.

S. Vinokur: End of the World.

M. Laitman: And if this is the end, better now. And he ends…

S. Vinokur: That’s why everyone is talking about the End of the World. They are talking about the End of this World, about a deadlock.

Moshe was pasturing the flocks of Yitro, his father-in-law, the chief of Midian, and he led the flocks after the free pastureland, and he came to the mountain of God, to Horeb. An angel of the Lord appeared to him in a flame of fire from within the thorn bush, and behold, the thorn bush was burning with fire, but the thorn bush was not being consumed. So Moshe said, "Let me turn now and see this great spectacle why does the thorn bush not burn up?" The Lord saw that he had turned to see, and God called to him from within the thorn bush, and He said, "Moshe, Moshe!" And he said, "Here I am!" And He said, "Do not draw near here. Take your shoes off your feet, because the place upon which you stand is holy soil." [Shemot 3:1-6]

Here begins the first manifestation…

M. Laitman: …of the Creator.

S. Vinokur: …of the Creator for Moshe, for this point.

M. Laitman: Yes.

S. Vinokur: Earlier he used to advance, bluntly speaking, somehow, on his own. All of a sudden this manifestation happens.

M. Laitman: …from a burning bush. Yes.

S. Vinokur: …from a burning bush, but something begins to direct him. Something… Here begins the real story of Moshe. What’s this “Moshe, Moshe!"? What does it mean “Take your shoes off your feet” and “holy soil”?

M. Laitman: All this…

S. Vinokur: What is this burning bush? At first he was simply flocking sheep.

M. Laitman: Firstly, he was flocking sheep. It’s not simple.

S. Vinokur: Even that’s not simple?

M. Laitman: The thing is the shepherd means the leader of his animal inclinations who leads them, those animal inclinations, to the Creator, as he aspires to the property of bestowal and love. That means he propels himself forward all the time. When he is on such a level, that the human in him, namely, the shepherd… By the way, “shepherd” is incorrect translation. In Hebrew it’s “roe tzon” which means “seeing ahead” of his animal nature. That’s how we translate “shepherd” from Hebrew.

S. Vinokur: Our world is so opposite to what it should be. Shepherd, to put it bluntly, is the last person in our world and it’s the first person in the spiritual world.

M. Laitman: Yes.

S. Vinokur: This can…

M. Laitman: Because all of us exist in this world on an animate level, whereas a shepherd is the one who leads us from the animate level to the human level. So, when he is preoccupied with this motion forward, from oneself, he starts to feel the manifestations of the Creator towards him. The fact is he ascends here from the worlds BYA to Atzilut. He must take off his shoes, because “naalaim” [shoes] comes from the words lower “locks” - “noel” [lock], which block the entrance to the Upper World for him. He should annihilate the locks.

S. Vinokur: He must be connected to the ground [aretz]?

M. Laitman: Yes. He must be connected to the ground [aretz], because namely with his own desire [ratzon]. Earlier he didn’t have this capability. He couldn’t work with his desires and raise them to the world Atzilut. Now this is possible. It’s…

S. Vinokur: “Atzilut” translates as “at His”

M. Laitman: At His.

S. Vinokur: At His.

M. Laitman: “Atzilut” is the part, where the Upper Light reigns in the corrected vessels [desires].

S. Vinokur: What means Creators voice then? God’s voice?

M. Laitman: Revelation.

S. Vinokur: Revelation.

M. Laitman: Revelations can take all possible forms. Revelation on the Bina level, on the level of bestowal – is the voice.

S. Vinokur: And the burning bush?

M. Laitman: Ear. Hearing.

S. Vinokur: And the burning bush? Once again, what does it mean?

M. Laitman: Burning bush is already the Light Chochma.

S. Vinokur: The Light of Life.

M. Laitman: Yes, the Light of Life.

S. Vinokur: What does it mean, he saw the burning Light of Life, burning bush, and went towards it?

M. Laitman: He saw a sense in what he was doing, in his coming close in the work of pushing his animal nature, his sheep forward, [he saw] that he is coming close with the Creator, with the world Atzilut

S. Vinokur: Aha (with comprehension).

M. Laitman: That means contact. The first contact that happens to a person, who can ascend from the worlds Briya, Yetzira, Assiya into the world Atzilut

S. Vinokur: I think we are like in a thrilling series now. It’s really interesting what will happen next. In the series we make a break. Further we have really exciting stories. But unfortunately we have to finish for now.

Dear friends, we are finishing our program. You see, further it will get even more exciting. So stay with us. See you next time.

End credits

Camera:

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Yuriy Podolsky

Yuriy Manahimov

Mikhail Goldberg

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Sound Editors

Jonathan Haiman

Linear Montage

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Montage

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Semen Vinokur

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