Morning Lesson November 12, 2022, Transcription

Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio

Part 1:

Faith Above Reason - Selected Excerpts from the Sources

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i3dp30RInQ_LD6VE6XZ8OCSh-IfNcczZVZeudiFv8yA/edit

1. Rav’s Introduction: In our reality there are two states; it is either this world or the upper world and nothing else was given. There is nothing else in reality because it is all the reality of the Creator who is the force and the quality of bestowal, and the created beings who would be different from the Creator on one hand on the other hand they would be able to feel him and discover him with the power of reception. So what is happening with us is that we are in opposition to the Creator, we exist in the force of reception against his force of bestowal and what we can do with ourselves is the change that we have to go through that although we are made of the power of reception we need to begin to feel the force of bestowal to reveal the Creator who is right before us. Then we would be his partner's and the Creator would become our partner. This is why in addition to our nature which is the desire to receive, the force of reception, we need to acquire the force of bestowal, the intention of bestowal.

This is what we do throughout history. It is not simply throughout our lifetime but much more than that and in this the Creator arranged for us the whole nature; still, vegetative and animate, and these parts in us, these parts we find seemingly outside of us, but they exist inside us and they help us. They help us to discover that nature of bestowal is opposite to the nature of reception and then we are included in both of these two forces, the Creator's nature and the nature of the created being and that this is how we exist and this is how we advance. We cannot change that desire to receive we cannot change the desire to bestowal or accurately the intention of bestowal but the we can reach an equivalence or similarity of the state between them and from that we learn what is the desire to receive, what is the desire to bestow and how both of them help us to be in a state that is similar to the Creator above all of reality and also to feel the fulfillment of the whole reality, the ceiling.

This is what we are learning about here. The force of reception is stemming from our nature therefore we call this quality the desire to receive and the desire to bestow in and of itself does not exist but it exists on top of the desire to receive, above it. Therefore we call the desire to bestow the force of faith that is above reason. If we have reason maybe even that is not so simple to have a desire to receive, the desire to know and to be in joy, to be fulfilled and above that we can also start to acquire, begin to acquire the force of bestowal. In order to bestow we also cannot do this just from any state but instead we have to reach a great force of reception in order to feel in it the evil, the harmful qualities in it, the negative influences in it and against that to have opposite discernments of giving. We need to try and reach a state that above the desire to receive we start to feel what is the desire to bestow, what is the intention to serve others and give them. This is how we advance to the concept of faith above reason, and this force of bestowal, faith, spirituality as we call it, this power is attained above the force of reception, relative to the force of reception. We even measure spirituality using measurements from the force of reception, and this is how we advance. Meaning as much as we can rise above the force of reception accordingly we measure the force of bestowal.

Let's delve into what the friends have prepared for us from the sources, they prepared the document and this is something we never had. It is dozens of texts, and they are all relatively on point so let's start with that and of course as usual Kyiv wants to ask.

2. S. (08:02) No translation

R. How can you build, how can you measure, how can you weigh a force. How can you measure a force that you do not have naturally ,meaning how do we measure the force of an airplane that can take off? We measure it according to the power of the weight it can lift. This is how it is in everything, it is when we try to measure something that does not exist in us naturally, from birth so we measure it and we build it using opposite forms in everything. We do so in technology in life, in everything meaning we take a known force, the force of gravity, the force of heat, the force of hate, all kinds of forces that exist in the desire to receive and accordingly opposite to that we measure the force of bestowal and love, this is natural. We have no other way of measuring if you find any other way please. I am happy to hear about it. This is a well-known principle and we are using it. This is how we measure this force of giving it is the same with anything and everything that belongs to such actions that we do not know how to do naturally how to rise or to jump, to fly, even to love to give, we always measure it relative against reception, or attraction, or the gravity and this is for us the representatives and the possibility for measuring things, look at physics or everything. Even if we do not understand this principle so much this is what we are doing nevertheless.

3. S. (10:53) How can the other levels of nature help us advance in faith above reason?

R. The still, vegetative, and animate degrees exist in our lives, the speaking degree we cannot quite measure it yet. Everything we to know about a human being, a person or about groups of people or about human society, it is not science, we study it but we cannot say that we can accurately measure those things and work with them clearly because it exist on our own level, we are humans seemingly in this world, we belong to the animal species that exist on the fourth degree, therefore we cannot study, we cannot measure and work with ourselves in a truthful scientific form. Everything that we know about a person, what humans are it's simply bits of knowledge that we know about them, psychology, sociology we cannot really attain them like mass or physics when we are measuring inanimate or vegetable or animate objects and creatures but to be on the level to know a certain degree you have to rise above the degree as Einstein also said you need to jump on the table, you have to jump above it in order to study something, you have to jump above it is the same as we have to rise above the human level and then we can know about what is a human. How? In faith above reason, if we rise above the qualities that do not fit the human being that belong to the Creator then we can understand the person better and study the person.

Therefore the disappointment from our development, from our constant mistakes that we are making, from the fact that we cannot function properly. All those states eventually will bring us to a state where we must acquire a degree that is higher than the degree of humans in this world, which is basically the animate degree. We want to be in faith above reason, jump above and on to the table as he says. In this way we will be able to understand who we are and how to rise to a higher degree and this is what will happen soon. This is what Kabbalists write to us here and there but it is clear that this is how it should be.

S. If I am on the animate degree, how to use the scrutiny of the animate degree to use this, can you give an example how to use the scrutiny on the animate degree and come to faith above reason.

R. You cannot do that. You have ever seen or heard about cows or sheep reaching above their natural degree of development, it is impossible. Instead if in this among these animals there is such that has at point in the heart, meaning a desire that is above the natural qualities that belongs to the animals. If there are sheep or cows you consider and see they are destined to be special it is worthwhile to develop them, to raise them and give them an opportunity to grow and to acquire the power and especially the power of the intellect and to learn how to rise above their level. And this is what is happening with us. We organized a global center and people have an inclination to understand what it means to jump above the level of the table, what does it mean to not to become just one of the flock but to understand their nature and rise above it and so on. Meaning we are coming out just a little bit, they are not coming out of the level of their nature yet but they already have an inclination to do that.

Let's say that they already have the records of clothing, not the records of coarseness, they want to attain it but that would be already faith above reason, but they already have the Reshimot of clothing, this is called the point in the heart and then they come to us. This people they do not know why they are coming, it is interesting for them and there are those for whom it is not interesting but they simply find their way here because the general force of nature, the Creator is working on everybody, arranging everybody according to the coarseness let's say that exist in the heart of the person and this coarseness demands this power, the responding part and raise it, lift it up and for that we need faith above reason. And that’s what’s happening with us, the only problem is we are still holding between heaven and earth, we can’t correctly use this power that has been given to us, and we wish to rise, elevate together with that, it always works this way. In technology and also in spiritual technology we have to activate against it the force of connection and the force of connection will build between us the force of the spiritual ascent, and this is what we are lacking.

So we cannot overcome, the force that is disturbing us, that is preventing us from connecting because the spiritual ascent can happen only when we have enough power and forces this is a technical matter, it is not something special it is all according to the forces in nature, and we start to elevate and climb according to the powers of bestowal, of mutual connection and we begin to discover such this knowledge of how to acquire this mutual force, how to connect, how to rise through the degrees of connection and from them to the degrees of ascents, of being attracted upwards. This is already the technique through which we ascend spiritually; the coarseness, the refinement and all of those discernments that we are learning about in the wisdom of Kabbalah. All of it depends on how much we are against our desire, how much we can be against our desire and appreciate the power of the spiritual ascent, the spiritual ascent by itself when we can let go of everything else and then give importance and the attention only to that.

4. S. (20:36) Is the attainment of the level above our current level, is it coming from the connection in the ten? Does it come from the Reshimot, or the prayer in the ten? Where does it come from?

R. It comes from the Reshimot, from the records but it is not enough because the records are waking up but if the person is not assembling around these records the right environment in which to develop these records then gradually these records extinguish, and the person will leave the path.

5. S. (21:36) not translated

R. No because it is always bestowal against reception. We measure our state, our ascents, and actions only relative to the force of reception. This is our natural foundation.

S. So there is always a split here, where is the unity?

R. No actually the coarseness is added to the force of ascent, and it works in order to elevate us higher and higher and the darkness will shine as light.

S. What is the end of the road?

R. The end of the road is when it will be a state of entirely day. It will be evening and morning, one day.

Reading 1 (23:02)

6. R. (23:24) Meaning in our vessels we cannot understand what spirituality is.

Reading (23:43)

7. R. (24:00) This is our nature, perceiving only in ourselves and we perceive reality only through ourselves. I cannot say that there is this true reality that I feel through my senses but instead it is through my own senses meaning what is a passing through my five senses this is what I perceive in the form through which the five senses of mine give it to me and the reality that exist outside of my five Senses where you have the truthful picture this I cannot say anything about, it is all completely subjective relative to my qualities.

Reading (24:48)

8. S. (25:53) How to ascribe all the attainments…? (the rest was not translated)

R. If you work correctly, if you correctly connect with the group and you study more or less correctly, of course everybody is making the same mistake, having the same problems along the way, what you have others have as well but eventually you get to a state that whatever you have you begin to describe it to the Creator and this way you begin to enter into connection with the Creator. It takes time, sometimes years but at the end this is what is happening. The Creator does not let you go, this is how the road is arranged for you, the understanding, and the feeling.

9. S. (27:12) What is to settle the heart?

R. To bring the heart closer to the creator meaning you want to feel him inside your heart. How to do this? The safest way, the shortest way is when you want to feel all friends in your heart. There is no Creator, the sum total of all the friends, and what they want is as different as they are and as conflicted as they are, if you wish to feel them together in your heart then you ultimately feel the Creator because there is no Creator, only when you make him in such a way.

10. S. (28:18) Can we accelerate the awakening of the Reshimot? If the answer is yes, how to do this?

R. You can wake up the records faster through the surrounding light. When you awaken the friends and together with the friends you wish to wake up these records so they connect you into a single Reshimot, one record. That is actually given from the system of Adam HaRishon.

11. S. (29:07) When we turn to the Creator requesting assistance, the only assistance I can see is the coronavirus which helped us to distance ourselves from our desire to receive, is this the kind of assistance we can expect?

R. I would not compared to that because the desire to receive that coronavirus helped us to move away from a bit, It is not the spiritual desire to receive, it helped us to rise above a bit but it is not the same.

Reading 2. twice (29:50 - 33:27)

12. R. (33:29) You see how many times he says, ‘as if’, just to understand that faith above reason is not a real force that comes to us, I would say, but ‘as if’ when we begin to see, it is like when we put on a new pair of glasses. So first I was without glasses, I saw before me whatever I saw, everything was blurry, I saw these colorful patches instead of people; and later I put on my glasses and I see an entirely different world before me, that’s what we want. It is not that one is truthful and the other is not, we cannot distinguish between the two, we simply wish to see reality the Creator sees it, the way the Creator sees reality and this is what we want.

Therefore, we wish to attain the faith, the force of bestowal, attain the force of this new vision, eyesight so we would see how truly everybody is connected, how everybody adds to one others, is connected to each other, is giving and so on. We have to see these things, we wish to see them ‘as if’ we were wearing a new pair of glasses, which is faith above reason. And I can always come down from this degree and see things inside my vessels, my regular egoistic vessels; and again ask and rise to the degree of faith, to put on the glasses of faith and see things that are totally different in a way.

In other words there is always an opportunity, a possibility before me to see reality in the will to receive and to see reality in the desire to bestow. And to compare between them and to always rise above the will to receive into the will to bestow, to be in faith above reason. Meaning the reason does not disappear rather I use it in order to rise higher and higher into the power of faith. And I always have a relative measurement relative to my reason and I’m in it like a scientist, like somebody who is measuring himself, realistically: where does he stand within reason and where does he stand above reason?

Reading 2 again

13. R. (37:54) Meaning there is a split inside a person between the two discernments in faith and in reason?

Continue Reading

14. R. (38:13) That he exists in this internal split and this is natural for faith above reason.

15. R. (40:06) These kinds of things are hard to transmit verbally from one to another but that’s how he writes and it’s correct and we attain it gradually through the upper light, it will clothe in us.

16. S. (40:30) You said that this quality of faith above reason is something we attain when we want to feel the friend in the heart. It turns out that this feeling of the friend needs to be against that which we feel in our reason, is that how it works, that each time the feeling of the friend against each time what I feel in my reason, is that how it works?

R. We will attain it soon, and we will understand, it’s hard to explain it. It’s like a blind person in this world, it’s hard to explain to him what seeing is, but we will come to us soon.

Excerpt #3 (41:28 - 43:06)

16. S. (43:25) In the state of darkness, he is asking the Creator to be revealed is considered faith?
R. No, faith is a special force that comes to the person and raises him to seeing, grasping, perceiving the world differently.

17. S. (43:55) What does it mean, ‘as if’?

R. It is ‘as if’, from imagining that he is in this state he is gradually approaching it.

18. S. (44:22) How can the person know that he is truly going above reason?

R. When he acquires this quality then he understands, he feels that this is what is happening to him.

19. S. (44:57) In this world, in order to be certain that I am not ‘seeing’ something, we agree between us about reality in faith above reason. Who do I agree upon this reality of faith above reason, it’s kind of like me and myself, you know?

R. Yes, it is you with your own reason agree with faith above reason because you build one on top of the other.

S. So how do I know that I am not imagining it?

R. It’s precisely because it appears above reason and your reason gives you the knowledge, the feeling, the proof, the fact that you are in the power of faith which is above your reason and you have no doubts as you exist in a deeper perception of reality compared to what you had before, more fundamental.

S. So it is quite beyond doing things that are just not in my desire, let's say I received something from the friend in the ten, there is another level of depth which I do not understand yet?

R. Yes.

20. S. (46:38) When we appreciate or look at the world through our reason, through our mind, everything is clashes, there’s my truth, there’s his truth, and they cannot exist simultaneously, and they need to destroy each other. When we come closer to faith somehow these things complete each other, harmonically, and everything comes into its place.

R. Yes.

S. In the excerpt, it talked about the joy from that point you come to joy, do these things lead to joy when we connect that seemingly appear to be clashing?

R. Even before that, if I am in a state that I must rise to faith above reason otherwise I cannot carry on in my development towards the Creator, then by that, I am happy. I am happy since I feel like I am in a dead-end and I have to jump, leap above the fence.

21. S. (48:10) In the state of day, is their existence of previous relations?

R. It is not that the state of night but there is something else.

22. S. (48:36) Continuing the previous question, meaning what we will attain above reason doesn’t move towards within reason?

R. This is a good question, it goes into reason after a time and then it becomes an upper reason, a spiritual reason, yes.

S. Meaning that which we attain in the spiritual world that which moves into within reason?

R. No. it is not moving into the corporeal reason, it is a second floor, let's say.

23. S. (49:26) What does the demand need to be in order to rise into faith above?

R. It is from an inner necessity within a person.

24. S. (49:48) On excerpt number three, Rabash says that “the person needs to believe above reason and also to imagine that he’s already merited faith in the Creator, how do we do this?

R. Only by working on it, as we discussed and will continue to discuss. We have to work on it in the group between us and then it will come. The important thing here is to understand that this is the result of group work.

25. S. (50:31) ‘As if’, does it already draw this state?

R. Yes, yes, it happens in this way, yes.

26. S. (50:59) This split between reason and faith above reason: in our work if I see a friend that is corrupted, it is my reason, and then I depict the friend as being corrected, that’s faith above reason, right?

R. No it depends on how you look at the friend, what state you’re in.

S. In my state, I see the friend corrupted in my reason, and then I depict him in parallel, as being corrected, this is not faith above reason?

R. Not yet.

S. So what is that first stage that I do?

R. Faith above reason is a force that you acquire from above, it is not something that you can arrange by yourself according to your will. I am looking at him and he is good so now all the bad things in him will now be flipped into good things and that's how I’m doing and then he appears as if good to me. It’s a psychological matter here, we need to think about it a bit more.

27. S. (52:25) How to act correctly, how to pray correctly? Half of the group is immersed in corporeal problems on a regular basis. And in faith above reason, it does not really work in just shutting the eyes and being like that for some time and to immerse ourselves in the ten and in parallel, deal with the corporeal problems. How to help the friends in the correct way so that they would be able to rely on their spiritual development and the Creator won’t throw them in such a harsh, sharp way?

R. I think that the group in general has to connect all their problems and achievements, their spiritual achievements, and then they will get a good connection. Just like the Creator gives to us from above, for each one of us and all of us together, and all of that is calculated precisely what each has to feel and receive, accordingly we need to receive everything and work with it.

28. S. (54:16) In the states that are revealed to a person in this world, if the person could have the same attitude that the Creator relates to reality, how would he relate to the things that come to him, to the states of this world?

R. He can’t relate to them any differently than he is relating to them right now, whatever the Creator gives, that’s how he relates to it.

S. What way do the Kabbalists relate to this world, do they respect or disregard it?

R. The Kabbalist who looks at this world, how he feels the attitude of the world towards him?

S. The states, the people around him, what for him is this world?

R. Relative to himself, this world is that condition that he has to process correctly in order to turn into a spiritual world?

S. What is that attitude that brings him specifically this world, brings him and he uses it to advance to the next world?

R. We’re learning about it, I do not understand what you are asking, all your questions, the answer is we’re learning about it. How can he work with this word: he has to connect with his friends, he needs to see this world as behaving as usual but he is trying to find the force that surrounds them which is the Creator and he needs to see those things above reason in the force of bestowal.

S. So a state comes to me right now from the world that I call a phenomenon that happens to my will to receive, again how do I invert it into advancement, to use it correctly?

R. Just like we’re talking about it all the time, I do not know what more to tell you: I need to take it in faith above reason, to turn it into a force of bestowal that I received from the Creator and this force, I wish that this force would exist between us, among the friends.

S. So that moment when I connect between what is happening to me and the friends, it means that I use it correctly?

R. You could say.

29. S. (57:27) When a person already sees or feels in faith above reason, how does he format it into spiritual reason where there is some kind of development of motion where a person can advance in faith above reason and do it all the time?

R. The faith above reason that he requires is later transformed to his spiritual reason and he builds the next degree on top of it.

30. S. (58:18) If I can’t do something that will appear as faith above reason from within me, if so the only possibility is to ask for it from the Creator, and in this prayer I can either receive it as a certain quality . . . .

R. Faith above reason comes to a person gradually, slowly, according to how well he can build together with the friends, together with the friends, this common feeling that helps him come out of himself, incorporate with the others and through that, incorporated with the Creator as well. Then he gradually approaches this concept of faith above reason, it's a force of Bina that is above the force of Malchut.

Reading excerpt 4 Twice

31. R. Then you can truly say that he is above reason meaning he chooses above reason in spite of all the opportunities to reveal reality within reason

32. S. (01:02:30) It turns out that faith above reason is kind of like on annulment above reason. Why is it called bestowal?

R. Faith above reason is not that it is above reason, rather we appreciate it, we value it more than we do reason. It’s not like we take something and we place something above it, rather it’s because we appreciate it in this way, we value it, we crown it, we say it is more important than within reason. Meaning we have reason but we have a possibility for building a perception of reality which is above reason. And then we establish ourselves on top of it, this is called faith above reason. It’s the perception of the spiritual world. Don’t think that it’s easy and why isn't it working out for us? It’s not absorbed in us because it is a completely different perception and we have nothing that can help us with it except that we ask, and then the help will come from above and then will understand what it is. Before we receive it, before we get it we won’t understand it. It's not like in our world where I can grasp something and then I can learn about it. Here because it belongs to a different degree I can’t learn about it before I receive it. That's why it is such an important thing, so difficult, so strange almost.

33. S. (01:05:24) It’s written in the excerpt that he would like to feel or receive the greatness of the Creator. But nevertheless he chooses to go in faith above reason. There is a certain contradiction between the greatness of the Creator and..?

R. Yes, because if it was the greatness of the Creator in my eyes I would simply surrender and it would be easier for me to rise to faith above reason.

S. So it’s not good to want the greatness of the Creator?

R. It is good, but I need to come to it, I need to rise to it. What does it say: specifically through faith above reason, meaning even if you feel darkness on this path and you understand, that if Malchut had illuminated openly and not in concealment the body would feel the greatness of the Creator; and it would be easier for him to move and be rewarded with always having a state of work and he would have no descents, he nonetheless chooses to go above reason. He doesn't seek revelation rather he understands that the true path is in concealment, in the dark. There specifically he has the possibility of reaching a true perception of the Creator, to attain the greatness of the Creator. We can’t portray these things clearly but the conditions for it we can somehow arrange.

S. Meaning I don't want to feel the Creator in my egoistic vessels, but I want Him to give me some kind of forces for the work?

R. You can say that for now, you can say that.

34. S. (01:07:55) You said that even though this process happens in concealment the person should know this is the way to get a greater perception of faith, spirituality. And there's also a matter of choosing in the article. But when I am in those states of darkness there is no button for choosing because if I would feel the greatness of the Creator I would not be in that state of darkness. When I'm in the state of darkness I don't have any button or any door to open and enter. You also said that in the beginning of the lesson that jumping is the path. How does it happen or does the person need specific help from above?

R. Try during the state of darkness to embrace with the friends and continue in this way.

S. How long?

R. Until the darkness will fade away.

S. I fear that it will not.

R. No, no, no, I promise you it will go.

S. Don't promise me like old Menachem.

R. No, no. First of all he promised me that I would also advance. Okay, it was a bit more than two weeks but it is certain that this is how it should work. The darkness was given to us so that we would have no other choice but to connect between us.

35. S. (01:10:55) What is considered to choose faith above reason?

R. It is that you choose to go not according to what the eyes see but to according to above reason, not according to your reason but according to above reason.

S. How do you know what faith above reason is when you are opposite that?

R. The fact that you're opposite to it is already a discernment.

S. Yes, but I don’t have an example that I can see with my eyes that I can say this is faith above reason, I’ll do it this way.

R. In connection with the friends you can understand what it means to go above reason, you can start from that.

S. Clear, but it’s kind of like completely opposite everything that is to receive.

R. Yes, above reason is above it, above reception.

S. But you explained earlier that it's not that you put it above receiving but it's truly like a completely different nature that you have.

R. But you can’t explain it, you can’t explain it using our current vocabulary because our entire vocabulary is tied to our feelings and in above reason we have no feelings. So it turns out that we are talking about something, but what? There is no grasp in it, the words are not connected with the feelings so it's as if we’re talking in a different language, you don't know what the words are.

S. So what does this transition depend upon?

R. Only the upper light, only with the help of the Creator, only when you connect and you ask to have that power to walk on the path of faith.

36. S. (01:13:25) We said that we appreciate faith, we crown it. What is the difference between appreciating faith and living in it?

R. To live according to the force of bestowal. Imagine that we’re in a world, not working according to the force of reception, according to Malchut but one that works according to Bina. We need to come to that to work according to the force of Bina. How shall we do it? How can we rise to such a level where we decide, think, compare things all according to the force of faith that exists in each and every discernment?

S. It is not clear. How to value faith when we still don’t have this language, we’re not in that state, the first grasp, to start from that..

R. Pray for that, pray for that. Of course you don't have it but you want it, you’re trying with your efforts, your intellectual efforts, your emotional efforts, you are trying to reach that force that does not exist, neither in your brain nor in your feeling.

S. What am I asking for? I don’t even know what I’m asking for.

R. You are asking to see reality, to perceive reality that is working according to the force of bestowal. That’s how it works. As much as you read about it, you won’t find anything clearer than that.

37. S. (01:15:51) According to everything we learned here, the force of faith we have that’s faith in the wise, the sages? That’s what we use, right?

R. Yes.

S. Because the same records you were speaking about in the beginning of the lesson, there’s a record of clothing that shines inside us and gave us our first impulse. And the records of coarseness for some reason were not able to build that connection in order to work with this record directly. Did I understand it right? Because the process is never-ending, we constantly have to do this. So that means we are behind, right?

R. We’re not behind, we’re advancing and we need only to aspire to something called faith above reason. And this is something we cannot attain unless it comes to us from above. For that we connect and we pray and the force of bestowal will come to us, the force of faith. And then we’ll understand, what is the force of faith that exists above the force of reception, this is called faith above reason.

S. Between faith above reason and this there’s connection. That’s what I want to encourage, that’s what we’re lacking in order to feel it correctly? Because otherwise it will just remain as imagination, as we’re just playing.

R. You are playing and this is also why it’s called a game, however this game leads us to a correct sensation. This is how children play or as we say the Creator is playing with a whale. This is how we come closer to the truth. Take all the sources of Kabbalah and see that there’s no more than what’s written and what we’re using.

38. S. (01:18:30) Our daily portion of the light that reforms is that also above reason?

R. What daily portion?

S. The light of reforms, our morning lesson. That we come every day, even though we go through all these states.

R. It’s not faith above reason it’s just that portion that we need to receive in order to further and further come closer to faith above reason.

S. But is it above reason?

R. No, of course not, what do you mean? What is faith above reason? That you are given a plate and you eat from it and that’s what you call faith above reason, when you come to the lesson? No. But if you relate correctly to the lesson and you add to the lesson your efforts then we can say that you’re capable here to awaken the Creator to shine on you and awaken in your faith above reason.

S. I wanted to ask if the light that reforms is added into a tendency to do something for the friends, if that is close to this, faith above reason.

R. Yes.

39. S. (01:20:00) I heard you saying try in the darkness to hug, hug the friends and then you can keep going. That state of darkness, what tendency do I need to have towards the friends?

R. Connection, connection.

S. But for now it's darkness, meaning do I ask for connection, am I expected to connect above the darkness?

R. We want to achieve the force of bestowal. We don't have that force of bestowal, not one bit. It’s all in intention to benefit, to receive, to succeed. What we want to do is to come closer to each other, understand how much we can or can't be together and from our connection together more or less successful we ask of the Creator to give us the force of connection. This is called faith above reason, that’s what we’re asking for.

S. This hug you were talking about, that means that we are hugging between us or the Creator is hugging us, where is that hug?

R. We want to hug each other with our egoistic desire even though we seemingly want to kill each other, and we come to an embrace between us and where is the true force of embrace? It’s that we ask of the Creator to give us the true ability to embrace. Now we are seemingly embracing each other you know it from yourselves, yesterday you hugged each other in the meal and other events and is that a true embrace? It’s a physical embrace. You wish to achieve the inner embrace where the hearts touch each other and thus it all comes to a single heart. And we don't have that for now but it is written, and you will trust the words of the sages that this will happen. And therefore you pray and ask for it.

40. S. (01:23:28) What is more correct to do, to ask for the Creator for His greatness or to ask directly for the force of bestowal?

R. What you want in that moment, what you need most in order to advance towards connection with everyone that is what you should ask for.

41. S. (01:24:13) What does it mean within the ten to feel in your organs that the Creator is leading the world in the good that does good?

R. That wherever I am in reality I feel love that comes to me from Him.

42. S. (01:24:54) When a person goes above reason he must reach a certain result? Because we say we reach the upper knowledge or the spiritual knowledge or is not a must for it to happen?

R. For certain. Certainly there has to be a result.

S. So on the other hand it’s like a bribe.

R. No, it's not bribing anyone, don't worry. It raises you to a greater quality of bestowal.

43. S. (01:25:47) How can I feel shame by not wanting to go in faith above reason?

R. Speak to the friends.

44. S. (01:26:09) When a person is in spirituality he feels that there is none else beside the Creator and the Creator is the good that does good. So specifically above that you have to uplift in faith above reason, that that’s not my joy but somehow for the Creator?

R. In principle you are right, continue and clearer definitions will appear in you.

44. S. (01:27:01) When we receive something from the Creator and we are in a moment where we have to decide whether to receive more or less, that element of doubt, does this mean that we are building a Masach, is that the force we can call faith above reason?

R. No, not yet but keep going and soon it will happen.

46. S. (01:28:17) Is it right to say that faith above reason is a result and not the action, can I say it that way?

R. Yes.

S. Is it a result of my actions?

R. It's a result from your effort.

47. S. (01:28:45) I heard you say that even a person who thinks he can attain everything in his reason has to want to go above reason. The forces for that does that come from some sort of inner feeling that comes against the reason or it comes from outside?

R. He receives it from outside.

48. S. (01:29:19) Should faith above reason be something really felt, like within reason?

R. Greater, more powerful.

49. S. (01:29:40) Rabash writes that a person asks for the Creator to be revealed so we should ask for revelation or for faith?

R. We are asking for the force of bestowal, the force of faith that will give us the ability to understand the Creator, be closer to the Creator and live in the same states, same desires, same thoughts as the Creator. There’s a difference but let’s say that you bought some small puppy and brought it home and you want to know how it thinks and how it accepts and receives everything, even if it’s just a small puppy. You want to have some common language with it, something, right? And so we like some little animals, we want to have a connection, some common language with the Creator.

50. S. (01:31:16) What does it depend on if the person will get the force of faith or not?

R. The force of faith the person receives from connection with the friends.

51. S. (01:31:33) How can we know how much faith we need in order to come out of descents and concealments?

R. The Creator knows that when a person receives the force of faith above reason.

52. S. (01:31:56) What’s the difference between as if to be in faith above reason and to really be in faith above reason?

R. If a person is truly in faith above reason then he feels the upper world, the spiritual world, the world of the forces of bestowal and he is there and happy about it and has an urge to share that with everyone.

S. So what does it mean that he believes as if he sees it above reason?

R. Yes because what is above reason? It’s the quality of bestowal. The quality of bestowal is the Creator and when we come closer to it we want to have faith above reason so that in such a way we can depict to ourselves what is the force of bestowal.

53. S. (01:32:59) What does a person have to imagine when he’s as if above reason? What does he need to do?

R. Love above rejection.

54. S. (01:33:13) It’s not clear how a person can reach faith before he reaches the truth. Does he use the force of his thought?

R. I don't know how to answer this more accurately than what I've already done.

54. S. (01:33:47) Should faith grow the more we advance or is it a high force that we don’t use?

R. It has to always grow.

55. S. (01:33:59) What action in our state can bring us closer to faith above reason?

R. Only connection between us.

56. S. (01:34:19) Is the lack of faith above reason expressed by not seeing that the Creator is the good who does good?

R. This is a subjective perception that the Creator is good that does good. We have to reach a state where we achieve connection, contact with the Creator, adhesion with the Creator through all the states whatever they are.

57. S. (01:34:54) Is the force of faith what is preventing us from falling into the second concealment?

R. Yes, of course, it is the power of faith that doesn't let us fall.

58. S. (01:35:13) To see the Creator conducting the world as the good that does good, does that always stay as if or does it become a true picture at some point?

R. The true picture, we don't know what it is, and we don't know how to compare these pictures. Rather bit by bit we advance to the state of the final correction and then it will be clear to us what the true picture is.

59. S. (01:35:49) I heard you say we have to build this mutual picture and it helps us advance towards that state. But doesn’t it erase our deficiency?

R. No, we advance on two legs, we have both this and that.

60. S. (01:36:11) Is faith above reason something that only comes from the Creator? Is that called expecting salvation?

R. Only to expect salvation from the Creator? Let's say so, yes.

61. S. (01:36:34) Arvut in the group can help increase faith above reason?

R. Arvut in the group basically covers everything. If we come closer to the point where we nullify our ego and the force of connection between us is what dwells between us and governs us, by that we acquire everything. We stop seeing ourselves, feeling ourselves and we do achieve the force of spiritual connection, the Creator.

62. S. (01:37:00) Is faith above reason something that happens more in the mind or the feeling, or it has nothing to do with our current mind and feeling?

R. The heart and mind, we need them to be balanced, to grow together.

63. S. (01:37:46) Is being corrected mean that you have faith above reason?

R. Yes, of course.

64. S. (01:37:58) You said that a person decides to go above reason. What does it mean that a person chooses this?

R. A person chooses faith above reason because he sees that this is the truth. And then he tries to pass all his efforts through connection until he rises above his ego to connection with the friends, and there he acquires faith above reason.

65. S. (01:38:43) Is faith above reason something that happens in one person as a result of his efforts in the ten?

R. Yes, by our investment in the connection in the ten we achieve faith above reason.

66. S. (01:39:00) Is it correct to say that the state of “as if” comes from our efforts and our choice?

R. As if means it's born from our efforts, of course it depends on our choice.

67. S. (01:39:25) If the body feels greatness of the Creator does that mean it’s within reason?

R. Why? The greatness of the Creator we cannot feel within reason, it's always above reason if we feel it.

68. S. (01:39:48) Where is this vessel of faith above reason?

R. Faith above reason is the vessel of Bina.

69. S. (01:40:04) When we ask for connection in the ten in order to feel it in our heart, is that called to ask for faith above reason?

R. I don't know, I don't know what to tell you. These are things that repeat themselves. It’s as if I have to go back to the same answers.

70. S. (01:40:44) Above reason is my reason against the Kabbalist’s reason?

R. No, some questions have no logic to them.

71. S. (01:41:02) From which effort does the Creator give a person forces to walk above reason?

R. The Creator gives the person the power to go with faith above reason so that he rises to a higher level of reason.

72. R. (01:41:28) We have today and then tomorrow we already have a congress together. Let's hope that through our connection we’ll acquire new vessels, new desires and then reach a state where we understand what we’re facing. You see both men and women wherever they are in the world, there are those we think of as more successful or less successful, it doesn’t matter. No one can precisely detect and express this concept of faith above reason because it truly is the spiritual degree that is now above us. From afar it seemed different, it looked more vague and therefore it's something we could sort of depict but as we come closer and grow towards the concept of faith above reason then we can no longer exactly detect it. In any case thank you very much and we will see you also in the next lesson and then the congress, I’m very much expecting that, thank-you.

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