Part 3:

Baal HaSulam. The Arvut [Mutual Guarantee]. #23

Reading #23 (00:16) “With these words, we clearly understand…”

Reading #24 (03:42) “Thus, because of the above necessity…”

1. S. (05:17) Baal HaSulam writes in the previous item that there's a broad world called “Love of others,” what is this broad world compared to ours?

R. Broad means Hassadim, high means Hochma, so wide means filled with Hassadim.

S. How can we feel it, what is that feeling?

R. I cannot make it tangible for you. You cannot pass a feeling from one person to another.

S. Is it something fantastic that is?

R I don't know, you see yourself what kind of word you’re using, fantastic.

S. I mean it gives confidence compared to what is happening in the world right now.

R. I don't know, imagine it for yourself however you want it for now.

2. S. (06:23) It turns out that you can accept the Torah as it used to be, they used it and they lost it. Does that mean that we can receive it and then lose it, how not to lose it?

R. When did they lose it?

S. When the temple was destroyed.

R. It's not that they lost it, it's just that there was shattering.

S. Is it because they didn't use it correctly, the lights of the Torah?

R. It is because we misused its laws, but as long as we connect together these laws will once again receive life within us.

3. S. (07:48) What is the Israeli nation's descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? What is this thing?

R. That’s about where does the root of that group comes from, the group that is ready for and yearns for connection with the Creator.

S. Is any of this relevant to us?

R. No, today we no longer use that. Today anyone who's heart has this concern is capable of entering the connection with the Creator.

S. Not through Israel? Because he says that the sparks will go through them.

R. Well, of course, we give something to the world. Religions, the foundations of human society, but that is still ahead of us.

S. Today does the nation of Israel have some kind of a duty or role?

R There's a role for the people of Israel that they will connect, unite, and pass on those laws of connection to everyone else.

S. We see that we are very far from this and the people of Israel.

R. Correct, yes correct.

4. S. (09:41) It says that the Israeli Nation was instilled as a conductor, a passage that the sparks have to go through all of the humanity until they feel pleasantness and tranquility of “Love of others.” What is that pleasantness and tranquility?

R. From the “Love of others,” we come to feel no pressures that take us out of that state of love, and that is how they continue. 

5. S. (10:29) On one hand, we learned that the Torah is eternal and there is no time, on the other hand, what he writes here is that according to history it should have taken place already.

R. I don't know, supposed to have already happened, not supposed to, you see that it doesn't yet.

S. The Exodus from Egypt already happened and all those things, so according to what he writes, according to those conditions, something should have happened, and some sparks should have been passed on.

R. How do you know that, I don't know, I see that is not yet happening?

S. How should it happen?

R. I don't know. I'm learning together with you and expecting together with you, this state where it does happen.

S. The question may be how is it supposed to take place now.

R. I do not know, we are going back to the same words. If we have not been there yet we do not have the Reshimot, the conditions then how can we say? Do you know how many existed throughout the generations who said that the Messiah is just about to come, where is the white horse, and all kinds of other signs? I do not know.

S. Messiah is one state. Here, he's talking about the state that is supposedly already happened so that says that it has to come again?

R. I do not know. How much can I continue to tell you, that I don't know.

6. S. (12:52) There’s a feeling from the beginning of the lesson that the more we study, we study about being the quality of the conduit, that in Israel there's a coarseness from the father which is the smallest, and Israel has to use that coarseness in the upper desire or the lower desire which is the conduit, the Parsa, the Klipot, everything we learn about, is this right?

R. That's right.

7. S. (13:36) When he speaks about the sparks that multiply daily and bring all the nations to the feeling. The seed of “Love of others,” is something good. When the person looks today he doesn’t look at the love of others as something good, and he feels that the others only hate him more and more. What can develop a person to come closer to the feeling, the understanding that he needs to love others and that this will be the best thing for him? How can that development, to see how all the others are going against him will bring him to see that he needs to be in love of others?

R. I do not know. I only know one thing, we need to know what we need to do for today, we are here.

S. It’s not clear. What are the sparks of purity that have to bring a person closer to that?

R. I do not know, I don't see them, I do not attract them, I do not know how they come, and multiply and connect and integrate. We have to see where we are today, and what can we use and not make mistakes and take upon ourselves all kinds of actions and states that are not yet in us, or that we are not yet in them.

S. Can we explain what we can do, are able to do, and must do?

R. Arvut as much as possible.

S. In us in our tens?

R. In the Tens and the entire group.

8. S. (15:44) On one hand, we learned in the Arvut how it should be, the quality of the conduit and the sparks spread and the pleasantness in the others. But, Baal HaSulam also says that we can reach a third and fourth world war. Only a small number will remain that will implement that “Love of others,” because they will have no choice. So how to look from those two angles? 

R. To look at it, that it could be either this way or that way or either way we will come to some certain conclusion. We feel that we are moving towards the form where we all want to nullify the will to receive and connect unboundedly. We do not know and we do not really want to talk about such things because it is not worthwhile. “Don't open your mouth towards the devil.”

Reading #25 (17:10) “Now there remains to complete what…”

9. S. (18:42) If I understand correctly it says here, that they became a nation in Egypt that made them a nation. So I wanted to know what happened there in Egypt that made them a nation?

R. They were a small group in Egypt and in Egypt they multiplied, meaning that their desires grew, their inner and outer powers grew and then they became a nation, but still not a corrected Nations.

S. In a term a nation is there like a togetherness in there?

R. Of course, it is not the same group that has entered, it's a nation.

S What is the trouble of suffering in Exile in Egypt that forced them, and turned them into one?

R That we have not spoken of yet, we have not got to that stage yet, that is the beginning of their journey in Egypt. When they just grow, it's like a baby, at first it grows and grows and then it begins to be taught certain things, certain demands, apply to them that is the next stage.

S. The coming out is that Moses doesn't serve them. They all want to leave together?

R. That’s still far, yes.

10. S. (20:28) Can we say that before the exodus the nation of Israel could have kept the laws of the Creator and Pharaoh together? The exodus is that they have to choose either work for the Creator or work for Pharaoh and that is the essence of the Exodus?

R. The essence of the Exodus is that they escape the rule of Pharaoh.

S. It's clear to them that they are going into that work, the work of the Creator?

R. Yes.

11. S. (21:16) I heard that as much as we connect the laws of the Torah will awaken in us again. Can we see in connecting the nation together today during the war as such signs, and should we do it in order to explain the necessity to the nation of Israel?

R. That is worthwhile, it’s worthwhile to explain to the people of Israel that if we want to advance correctly then each and every day we have to be increasingly connected.

12. S. (22:12) I did not understand it like that until they don’t come out of Egypt, they don’t engage in the love of others like themselves. The Exodus is the first action I understood. We are only talking about our common goal to run away from the will to receive.

R. Yes.

S. I wanted to ask also when we talk about a nation and actions in these that we need to do we're talking about Bnei Baruch?

R. This I do not he doesn't write that way.

S. I cannot look at the people outside and

R. Okay, next.

S. Yes or no?

R. What you trying to send me on some document.

13. S. () Or go to something gradual right?

R. Yes.

S. How does it express that we get an Arvut?

R. Each time we advance we need to do determine the root on the new level.

S. What is that new level a new connection?

R. On your connection to grade level straight condition than before.

S. What are those stricter conditions?

R. Based on the degrees.

S. What it is based on that we feel the deficiency of the friends more or what that we take what upon ourselves?

R. We feel more the deficiency of ourselves.