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Daily Lesson (Morning) October 30, 2024.

Part 1: Baal HaSulam. Introduction to The Study of the Ten Sefirot. #104

Reader: Hello, we are reading from Introduction to the Study of the Ten Sefirot. We're on item 104. Study material is available at kabbalahgroup.info and also the Arvut system. You can ask questions through those platforms. Anyone who's in the study hall and wishes to ask a question, please stand up, hold the mic close to your mouth and speak loudly and clearly. Introduction to the Study of the Ten Sefirot by Baal HaSulam, Item 104. 

Reading: (00:45) Item 104

It has been thoroughly clarified how it is possible to attain the first degree of love, which is conditional love. We learned that even though there is no reward for a Mitzva in this world, the attainment of the reward for the Mitzva exists also in this world. This comes to a person by opening the eyes in the Torah, and this clear attainment is completely similar to receiving instantaneous reward for the Mitzva (see Item 84).

For this reason, one feels the wonderful benefit contained in the thought of creation to delight His creatures with His full, good, and generous hand. Because of the abundance of benefit that one obtains, wondrous love appears between a person and the Creator. It pours to him incessantly, by the same ways and channels through which natural love appears.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:46) He writes, how can we be awarded with the first degree of love, which is called conditional love? It's as if an attitude brings about an attitude at some point. And the question is how do we not fall into that where some feeling comes in the Ten from connecting from work, especially on the incorporation that is now happening? How can we hold on to that first degree if it's really a situation where the attitude brings the attitude,. How do we hold on to that intention together?

M. Laitman: That we begin to feel in the Ten, the importance of connection; that it is essentially the opening through which we enter the love of the Creator. So, we have to guard that, we have to guard it and develop it more and more. 

Student: I can see how the Creator always gives us this additional opportunity, how that blanket of love covers us. I can see how the importance is a vessel for the protection of what we attain. I can see the lack in the understanding of the importance of the society, the path, the Creator. Do we need to focus on that, on the greatness? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (04:58) I want to repeat Baal HaSulam’s question, if I'm understanding, correctly. He says that there is no reward for the Mitzva in this world, but he says in any case you are destined to reveal among yourselves through the natural ways that there is a kind of a reward. That a person feels love in the Ten, good in the Ten, that's reward. So, what does it mean that there is no reward?

M. Laitman: He has to yearn for what we call opening the eyes in the Torah and opening the eyes already takes him further.

Student: It's not natural love, it's a different love?

M. Laitman: It isn't what we're used to, that's right, in the relationship between us. 

Student: How do we hold on to the faith above the natural feeling of love that reveals in the Ten or the group?

M. Laitman: A person imagines to himself this situation where he is with the Creator in an open relationship to each other. And then the Creator shows the person how much he loves him and by that a person can develop the same kind of love towards the Creator. So, basically, everything depends on revealing the Creator, opening up the Creator, how open he is towards the person.

Student: And then we need to hold on to that opening?

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: Is that the prayer that constantly needs to be there?

M. Laitman: Yes, without it we can't do anything.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (07:20) I also wanted to ask about that. When he says that this wonderful love reveals to him that is incessant and comes into those tubes of natural love. What does he mean by natural love, does he mean egoistic love?

M. Laitman: Yes, as usual, when one loves another.

Student: The person reveals the love of the Creator in his will to receive? What does it mean that it's in the same paths and ways?

M. Laitman: Just as he has towards a friend. 

Student: But in order to reveal the love of the Creator, does the person not need to invert his nature into a desire to bestow?

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: Why does he say that it's by the same ways and channels through which natural love appears?

M. Laitman: Basically, the feelings are the same feelings, the person loves the other and so he's drawn to the other. He wants to be close to the other, he's drawn to be with him all the time.

Student: Does the Kabbalist feel his relationship to the Creator like a relationship to someone close?

M. Laitman: More than that. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (09:01) What is opening the eyes in the Torah? Opening the eyes in the Torah means that behind each word and between the words in the Torah, it all opens up to a person. What exactly opens? 

M. Laitman: What opens up? Basically, nothing else is needed besides the relationship between man and the Creator. 

Student: And when you say that it opens to him between the words, the Torah is not just between the words, it's not just before a text?

M. Laitman: Yes, but still, the text itself, the letters, all kinds of marks – it all becomes revealed to a person, it altogether opens up the picture of the connection.

Student: What reward is felt by a person in such a state? 

M. Laitman: The reward is opening the eyes in the Torah. That he feels the relationship of the Creator to him and he can express his relation to the Creator and be with him face to face.

Student: So, if the reward is only spiritual, how does it influence a person in this world?

M. Laitman: The reward is not that it only works, spiritually, a person feels it in all of his being.

Student: How does it influence one's reality in this world, the feeling of spiritual reward?

M. Laitman: He sees how the Creator dresses into the whole world.

Student: What is the feeling of reward in this world and the feeling of reward in the next world? Why is here attainment and there it's really reward?

M. Laitman: The attainment of man in this world opens up to him the pathways, the sources, through which to be connected to the Creator in all kinds of ways and in all kinds of states and that's it, that's the main thing. When a person sees behind all of his life, he sees the Creator. He connects to the Creator through all sorts of phenomena that surface in him as he studies the Torah.

Student: That feeling, is that precisely at the time of the study of the Torah?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: How can we add, each day, more and more to the rewards, to feel that reward more, to feel the Creator? 

M. Laitman: To feel is through exercises done in the Ten. We don't have more where to labor but only in the connection between us. Making the connection between us as similar as possible to our relation to the Creator, as the Creator relates to us, and move closer to that.

Student: The exertion is in the Ten, in exercises and efforts of connection in the Ten?

M. Laitman: That is the main thing.

Student: Where is that finding, where is the feeling of reward in the same place?

M. Laitman: There, inside the connection they build between everyone in the Ten. Inside that connection, they will discover the presence of the Creator. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (14:32) It is said here that the first degree of love, so I think that he comes to that through Lishma, for the sake of the Creator. He said that it is love, that is seemingly conditional. If it's love, then how can it be conditional, that is one question. And the second question is if it's conditional love, then what is it conditional upon, to reach that first degree of love?

M. Laitman: It still depends on how the Creator relates to him, what he receives in connection with the Creator and that's a problem. Because he needs to reach a state where he truly yearns and connects and unites with the Creator without any difference between the form of connection between them.

Student: Meaning the first entrance to Lishma, is that still in some state that is from the previous state, from Lo Lishma? It's a certain kind of middle point, transition place?

M. Laitman: Yes, there is also such a transition place.

Student: That's what he means here, by that?

M. Laitman: I think so.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (16:18) If a person comes to a state of there is none else besides him, where he says that upon the whole of the reality, that the Creator manages it, does that bring him immediately to a place where he can say that the Creator is Good That Does Good?

M. Laitman: He sees that through his relationship with the Creator, that the Creator is Good That Does Good.

Student: But the question is the perception is that the Creator governs the whole of reality?

M. Laitman: And the same through all of reality, yes.

Student: Can that happen partially, where a person says There Is None Else Besides Him, on some individual state, and he also says that He is Good That Does Good upon that?

M. Laitman: It's written that he attains that the Creator is Good That Does Good to the good ones and to the bad ones, and that he feels himself in the world of the Creator.

Student: The question is, is it only at the end of correction or can it be in each and every state? 

M. Laitman: He enters this sensation and develops this sensation from beginning to end.

Student: Let's say in the Ten, we can build a state where we can say There Is None Else Besides Him and that He is Good That Does Good. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (17:57) You said that the connection between us and that with the Creator does not need to be conditional on anything, that I need to always express my attitude to the Creator. What does it mean to express my attitude to the Creator all the time?

M. Laitman: Love.

Student: How do I express that to the Creator, is it through the friends? 

M. Laitman: Yes. It means that you want to be connected to the Creator, without the friends, you can't be connected at all. So, you want to be connected with the Creator through all of the broadest possibilities you have and that means that you're working from within the Ten. And this way through the Ten, this is called I for my beloved and my beloved for me, that you develop with the Creator a mutual, deep, broad embrace and connection.

Student: He writes that he feels that the wonderful benefit contained in the thought of creation to delight his creatures with his full, good, and generous hand because of the abundance of benefit that one obtains, wondrous love appears between a person and the Creator pours to him incessantly by the same ways and channels through which natural love appears, and he says that you suddenly reveal that. What does it mean? I just want to share with a feeling. We came to the preparation for the lesson. We felt between the friends, really, joy that, here, we are coming here together. How do we interpret that feeling? What does it mean? 

M. Laitman: How to interpret the feeling that comes to you, that I can't do. But there's what he writes, that a connection of love develops between man and the Creator and man has to, a person has to develop it, to continue developing it in the Ten.

Student: I'm asking that because, at the end of it all, everything we develop in the relations between us, we aim for a common effort and we aim all the time through what you direct us and what the society directs us and through the material that we study, we go toward a certain goal. For example, now in three months, we have a Convention and we want to reach Lishma by then. And you suddenly see that the importance of the goal between us is bigger and greater. Does it come from that in which we influence each other in this environment we're in here in the society? And secondly, how does that influence the individual in the Ten?

M. Laitman: It's the same thing.

Student: It's one and the same?

M. Laitman: Yes, same thing, we wish that in every address that we make to the Creator and in connection with the Creator, understanding the Creator. That this will be revealed in us as much as possible.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (21:49) Conditional love sounds very egoistic: I love someone because, I don't know, they give me something, I feel something from them. How could it be that that is spirituality? How could it be that that is bestowal? 

M. Laitman: It's a stage where the person develops his connection with the Creator. 

Student: I can understand that in order to reach unconditional love, we need to go through stages but how could it be that that is already in spirituality? That's what I don't succeed to understand. What here is bestowal, if it's conditional love, I love a friend because he brings me things, I don't know – it doesn't matter what, what is spiritual in that? How could it be spirituality if I depend my love on something that he gives me? I don't, I cannot understand that. 

M. Laitman: But it can't be. Look, it has been clarified how it's possible to marry the first degree of love which is conditional love because we know that even though there's no reward in this world. But the attainment of the reward of the Mitzva also exists in this world which brings man the opening of the eyes in the Torah. So, this is where we begin, that you feel, that you receive from the Creator so much good and progress towards the goal, entrance to eternity. All of that sounds egoistic, however this is the degree that is as an entrance to the true progress. 

Student: That is a spiritual degree, it's not a degree in Lo Lishma, right? That's the degree we're speaking about now, the first degree after which there is the degree of unconditional love.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Can you explain how? 

M. Laitman: I ask you differently: Describe to me a situation where a person from this world becomes a spiritual person without this transition.

Student: I completely understand that we need to go through that degree but I'm asking how could that already be the revelation of the Creator? How can that already be spirituality?

M. Laitman: A person receives spiritual gifts, he changes. He sees in front of him spiritual goals.

Student: That's it, what does that mean?

M. Laitman: The person changes. He sees spiritual goals before him.

Student: That's the point. There is a connection here with the Creator?

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: You love me – I love you, that's the connection? 

M. Laitman: That's the definition here, of love.

Student: So, if you give me, I give you. So, what is spiritual here? The world is full of people who are busy with doing things for the Creator all the time because He'll give them something. He'll give me the next world, he'll give me here and there, that is called conditional love. So, what, is everyone in spirituality or in the first degree of spirituality?

M. Laitman: It's a transition stage, it's between the state that is now and the state that will be.

Student: I don't understand, if it is conditional love, I don't understand how that is spirituality, how that is bestowal.

M. Laitman: Yes, well, you don't know the spiritual definition. It's a definition that comes from our state and all the way to the final correction. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (26:50) The Creator wants to become revealed in our desire to bestow. I very much want to reveal Him but from the will to receive. How or, whether in this point, the desire to reveal Him but egoistically, how from here do we draw the reforming light? 

M. Laitman: By studying Torah, being among the friends, that you change, calibrate the form of connection and purpose of connection and essence of connection between you and the Ten. And bit by bit, you invert that, you transform that connection in the Ten to a vessel that reveals the new spiritual state.

Student: Meaning these are the exercises because everyone can say that they're in that state of I want, I want, and we do these exercises in order to draw the reforming light?

M. Laitman: It's the realization. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (28:12) Let's say the difference between spirituality and corporeality in this thing is that the Creator being important and not the gifts that He gives.

M. Laitman: Yes, of course.

Student: Now the question stands that He gives gifts and how can we hold the connection with Him as more important than the feeling that the Creator gives the gifts? What holds that connection as being more important than the gifts themselves? That the gifts don't become primary but the connection becomes primary?

M. Laitman: I said a person is in the Ten and they hold him, they obligate him to be in such a connection that he, like everyone in the Ten, ties himself to the Ten. 

Student: The connection itself with the Ten is pleasure? 

M. Laitman: Why is it pleasure, it could be the opposite – commitment, labor.

Student: Meaning the connection, connection is a value in and of itself that is independent of the feelings that come from it.

M. Laitman: I don't understand that.

Student: What is the connection in the Ten which makes it a vessel for the Creator's revelation?

M. Laitman: It's that a person connects with his friends who are all aimed at reaching the goal and they are moving closer to revealing the Creator and the connection between them in order to bestow.

Student: What reveals there in the Ten is the Creator?

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: But what is the connection itself? How can we speak about the connection itself, what is it? 

M. Laitman: The connection itself is that each one sees the other as the closest to him. 

Student: As the closest to him in that same desire, tendency, direction?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: You can say that that is emotion, intellect, it's something else? 

M. Laitman: Yes, feeling and emotion and mind. 

Student: How can we feel a screen in the Ten? 

M. Laitman: I don't know. 

Student: Because we say that the Creator reveals through the screen.

M. Laitman: He doesn't write about it, here.

Student: What the friend is asking, why is that called spiritual, why is that connection called spiritual? 

M. Laitman: Spiritual means not in order to receive. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (31:40) In relation to the gift from the Creator, what is the correct attitude, what is the feeling that a person should feel when he receives a gift from the Creator?

M. Laitman: I didn't understand the question?

Student: When a person receives a gift from the Creator, what is the emotion that a person should feel, joy? 

M. Laitman: He feels like when you receive a gift and from whom you receive the gift and what the giver wants to express in that. A person feels all of that and that glues him to the Creator.

Student: Should he also feel shame because if he got that gift from connection with the Creator?

M. Laitman: I don't know, it doesn't say that here.

Student: That he should simply be in joy and connected to Him?

M. Laitman: We'll discover and see. Can't you understand that it's a process, it's a process. You're all trying to cut it into slices and make it all understandable and clear. It's correct but that's not how it happens. It's an emotional matter.

Reading: (33:14) Item 105 Twice

However, all this comes to a person from the moment he attains onward. Yet, one does not want to remember all the torment caused by the Providence in concealment of the face he had suffered before he attained the above disclosure of the face, since “love will cover all crimes.” Nevertheless, it is considered a great flaw, even with love among people, much less concerning the truthfulness of His Providence, since He is good and does good to the good and to the bad.

Therefore, we must understand how one can obtain His love in such a way that he will feel and know that the Creator has always done him wondrous good, since he was born onward, that He has never, nor will ever cause him an ounce of harm, which is the second manner of love. An Ounce of Harm, which is the second manner of love.

M. Laitman: Yes, understood? Read again.

Reading: (34:50) 105.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (36:25) Yesterday, when we read that paragraph in that section, that item in the Ten, we got this question: Where can we feel suffering in the concealment of the face?

M. Laitman: Basically, suffering, man does not have to feel it at any moment. If he is engaged with the Torah, where he exactly studies the Torah and tries to practice it in himself, then he would have no suffering. Now, that's the ideal.

Student: In practice, it turns out that a person feels some suffering from that in which he is in the concealment of the face, from that that is seemingly opposite from the Creator. And if not specifically in these vessels, then afterwards he reveals that revelation.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: If a person wants to forget that he had such states, why is that considered a flaw? Meaning, if I suffered, and then in those same vessels after a correction I feel a revelation, seemingly, then why is that considered a flaw? 

M. Laitman: We have vessels – our vessels are the will to receive – we have to reach the correction of the will to receive where it corrects itself and changes itself to bestowing. And then in all of his vessels, we say that one feels a great pleasure from the revelation of the Creator. Therefore, it's not possible that a person stays in any feeling of a gram of suffering or pain, or anything. It all has to become filled with unbounded eternal pleasure.

Student: It's completely understandable. He writes that the person wants to forget the fact that he once felt suffering. Meaning that he remembers it, meaning that he once felt it? 

M. Laitman: At this stage, yes, for now, yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (39:40) He speaks about conditional love and unconditional love. Love with a condition is that the Creator relates well to me; and love that's unconditional is that the Creator relates to me good and therefore I love Him, that's conditional love. And now, unconditional love is seemingly in the concealment of the face, I continue loving Him. How is that desire to transition from the desire of conditional love to unconditional love is in that I'm supposed to sacrifice the world to be in a war? That I am in the darkness and upon it I build constantly greater darkness, greater blackness, more war in my world in order to show that I want to transition from conditional love to unconditional love. How do we do that, what is the solution so that I will not sacrifice the world all the time in order to not enter a state where I show that I do not want to be dependent on that good that comes from the Creator? What does it mean that I go from good to good without that in which I need to enter a war?

M. Laitman: This all depends on how much you want to be in the future state, only that.

Student: No, I understand the future state, I don't have a problem with that. I seemingly need, here: A good soldier needs a war in order to show that he is carrying out the commands, that the King is important to him, that he is battling with all of his might.

M. Laitman: So, he answers you simply about this, until you feel that the Creator does only good to you and in every state, then you're not completing the stage you're in. He tells you that.

Student: Yes, to the good and to the bad. They said at once that you need bread and have salt.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: I don't know what it is, a Klipa, or a shell, I don't know, but that thing where I always need to show that I am suffering all kinds of pain in order to express my love. Why do I need to sacrifice that state where the Creator is Good That Does Good to the good and to the bad in order for me to exert this good feeling from the Creator? 

M. Laitman: How do you do it if you have no sorrow?

Student: But it's me always sacrificing my world in order to prove that I need to find myself in a state of suffering so that I can show that I'm meeting that condition, that I am doing it. So, I'm asking, what's the exit from this trap where I don't sacrifice my world in order to prove that I want to be in that, unconditionally? How do I receive good without sacrificing the current world?

M. Laitman: That doesn't work.

Student: It doesn't work? 

M. Laitman: No, also, logically, if you don't destroy the previous world, then how could it be that you rise above it to the next degree?

Student: Is that called an incarnation? What is it?

M. Laitman: No, it's not an incarnation, it's just that you don't accept such a form of the Creator who appears to you because He doesn't become revealed to you in this degree as Good That Does Good.

Student: He reveals it to me in the next degree as Good That Does Good. That's okay, the degree of faith. When I'm adhered to the next degree, that is the faith that truly works on me. But in this world, what I create in this action is complete destruction. I need to be in a war in the desert in order for me to prove that He is Good That Does Good and that I am a worker of the Creator.

M. Laitman: I don't think that's right, first of all, you can't, based on your nature. So why are you expecting that from above you will get such conditions? That you'll be able to ruin the will to receive? No.

Student: I don't destroy it, but I always need to enter the state where you only eat bread and salt and water, drink water in order to show that I can rise above that condition. If I receive a lot, so I seemingly move that away, and I work only on my life of necessities.

M. Laitman: We need to move forward.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (46:18) A month ago, on Item 76, he spoke about these things. And there he explained that conditional love is a person in relation to his friend he feels that he only did good to him. But if he would show him an attitude of his friend to others as bad, he would not be able to justify it, and because of that it is called conditional. Unconditional love, he explains there in Item 72, that he can tilt the whole world to a scale of merit. Where the whole world, the good and the bad, he relates well to them, that force. So, in relation to the friend’s question, he doesn't need to go back to curse the Creator to sacrifice what he attained. Because he justifies the Creator in the vessels that he had before that but still, he needs in some place to find a deficiency. Because without a deficiency, he has no way of being in connection with the Creator. So, it seems that here's where the question is on that transition.

M. Laitman: He already justifies the Creator in every state? 

Student: If the Creator shows him that he is good and benevolent to everyone, then he will fall from the degree, that's what he explains in Item 72.

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: That transition, he will need in any case some deficiency?

M. Laitman: He has to see the entire world in a positive way. Without it, he can't complete the correction.

Student: His connection to the whole world will give him new vessels to work with?

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (48:38) It's not understood what Baal HaSulam says, here, because we learn that the whole fulfillment comes from the deficiency, as it is written, the advantage of the light, precisely from the darkness. So, what is the special attitude that he wants to explain on this point? He writes, how can a person be rewarded with love of the Creator? On that point where he feels that the Creator did only good to him all days of his life, and he did not cause him any bad. 

M. Laitman: Yes?

Student: He speaks about benefit, fulfillment, and that it touches on a place of deficiency, on something that was not that way beforehand. So, what does he actually say, here, I do not understand these discernments?

M. Laitman: I don't understand your question.

Student: Does there need to be a deficiency before fulfillment? 

M. Laitman: Of course. 

Student: The deficiency is felt as bad? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So, what is he saying here, it's not a complete thing.

M. Laitman: The deficiency can't be felt as bad only in one thing, it's the longing in the loved one.

Student: But the degree before it, there are scrutinies that bring a person to that desired longing. What is with that time because we are born where the evil inclination is evil from his youth. So where is the entire development, where does it exist?

M. Laitman: Development of what? Of the will to receive towards the

Student: Yes, when he reaches a corrected form? He says that the Creator never caused him any torment at all.

M. Laitman: Yes?

Student: So, where is such a reality? 

M. Laitman: Still ahead of us, still ahead of us. Where are you reading? 

Student: I'm reading item 105, the second paragraph.

M. Laitman: “Accordingly, we should understand how can a person merit this level where he discovers that the Creator did only good to him and never caused a gram of anything bad, which is the second aspect of love.” Yes? 

Student: Can we explain what Baal HaSulam wishes to explain to us here?

M. Laitman Reading: (52:05) Item 106

“To understand this, we need the words of our sages. They said, one who repents from love, his sins become his merits. It means that not only does the Creator forgive his sins, He also turns each sin and transgression he had made into a Mitzvah”. Yes. So, what is the... what's the problem here? The transgressions become merits, how? By the light that reforms. Who does that, the Creator; when does He do it? When a person comes to this repentance from love, he comes to such a feeling that he can't receive from the Creator anything bad. He doesn't believe that, he doesn't think that – it doesn't exist for him, I don't know how to explain that. But that's essentially what happens to the person and then all of the transgressions he, as if doesn't believe them and they become as merits. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (53:48) If I understand, transgression means that a person works against the Creator.

M. Laitman: Not just against the Creator, also in our world, there is a matter of a sin. 

Student: Yes, but a person works against something, someone, and merits are the opposite.

M. Laitman: What? 

Student: The opposite of transgression and he writes here that the Creator turns the transgressions to merits.

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: How can that be, that something bad I've done suddenly becomes good?

M. Laitman: I cannot say how it happens but it happens.

Student: A person sees that the bad things he had done were actually good things?

M. Laitman: I don't know, let's see first and foremost, does he explain something about it? 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (55:02) Before we move forward, just to stay on this for a second. When he says that the Creator only did good to him since he was born, and He did nothing bad to him since ever. How then can you say that the Creator didn't even do a bad thing to him if the person felt bad at certain times? 

M. Laitman: Yes, certainly.

Student: So, there was such a reality of evil, of bad. So how can he say that the Creator never did any gram of bad to him? He did.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So why do we say the Creator didn't do anything bad to him? The Creator did something bad. 

M. Laitman: Let's see, we'll come to that – where are you reading?

Student: I'm reading in 105, the end of the last paragraph.

M. Laitman: Yes, okay. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (56:31) Maybe in order to understand that. Maybe we could give the example of the kid who wants to touch his eye with a needle, with a pin to scratch, but the kid doesn't understand that he could hurt himself.

M. Laitman: Okay, yes. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (56:50) If we can try to understand the connection between the work in the Ten and man's attitude to the Creator in the situations in life. Yes, we said that the Creator clothes into the situations in life and the person has a feeling, and he needs to arrange the relation to him. We live today in a reality with a lot of grief and loss, and pain and sorrow. How can a person in the work in the Ten, by getting closer to the friends, how does that change his attitude to what the Creator brings to the events of life? It's like there is one state we're talking about, None Else Besides Him, there's an upper force that rules all of reality. The thought of creation that is Good That Does Good, that leads you on the path, and you have to discover his attitude and rearrange your attitude; so, that lives in one place. And as if in another place there's the work in the Ten, the relationship that you have to bring the friend closer to yourself, feel him as the closest to you, and so forth. How do these two places come together, influence each other?

M. Laitman: That is how reality appears before us. On one hand, it's the force of the Creator, which is Good That Does Good to the good and to the bad. And only in good does He do everything. If He does everything in good, so how can you check, what can you check with? So, you need upon at every moment of your life to say that if it is not completely good, really, like in the end of Correction. That is, you who lower that state in your feeling to a bad one. 

Student: Correct. Now, how does that have to do with the work in the Ten, how does it have to do with man's relation to the friends? 

M. Laitman: Now that you have the end of Correction, which is the best possible state in your state, and the two of those. So, you need to try to climb from the state you are now in – in your feeling, to the state of the end of Correction.

Student: Perhaps I now feel a situation in life the Creator gave it to me, and I feel it as bad. I work in the Ten on connection between us. As a result of that, I aim myself, and I'll feel His attitude as good? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Because we say that the place of the labor is in the Ten. I don't have a how-to or reason to change my attitude to the life events I'm going through. 

M. Laitman: There you can, too, try with your wife.

Student: Actually, there it's kind of, but opposite the friend, what action can I do today so that I can say tomorrow, now he's closer to me? 

M. Laitman: It's a feeling in the heart. 

Student: But feeling is something that's very malleable, changeable, it's this, tomorrow it's that.

M. Laitman: That feeling just tells you how much you still have not directed yourself at that. You need to climb upon yourself. And after that climbing, then you will be able to feel more accurately where it was from yesterday to tomorrow.

Student: What is this zeroing point? 

M. Laitman: This zeroing point, how do you reset something? That you bring yourself to the feeling of a zero. Neither to one nor to the other but in the middle, between good and bad.

Student: In relation to the friend?

M. Laitman: I don't want to enter that because I see that there is no, you need to try to work according to what is written, what was none written for us. Well? What did we just read? 

Reader: We read item 104 until 106. 

M. Laitman: Well, read. 

Reading: (01:02:27) Item 104 It has been thoroughly clarified how it is possible to attain the first degree of love, which is conditional love. We learned that even though there is no reward for a Mitzva in this world, the attainment of the reward for the Mitzva exists also in this world. This comes to a person by opening the eyes in the Torah, and this clear attainment is completely similar to receiving instantaneous reward for the Mitzva (see Item 84).

For this reason, one feels the wonderful benefit contained in the thought of creation to delight His creatures with His full, good, and generous hand. Because of the abundance of benefit that one obtains, wondrous love appears between a person and the Creator. It pours to him incessantly, by the same ways and channels through which natural love appears.

M. Laitman: So, there is nothing to ask about that. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:04:13) A conditional love is not something whole. It's something that has basically a lot of lack of truth because you know you're not in the last state, but there are many conditions; and then when there's doubt and lack of there's a lot of lack of wholeness in the conditional love. So also, when Rabash writes in his letter, after I attained the garment of love, he talks about connections, feelings of connection between him and the friends, until the final state, he says, is that the I is also swallowed and immersed in the friends, and there is no I, there's just one thing. And also, when you would draw equivalence of form, you would show two circles, and at first they're far, then they overlap, then they become one. So, there's no me and him and the same thing with bonds of love, there is a state at the end, let's say, that two feel as one?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Which is independent of anything but the state where there is connection between love, but that love includes many calculations. What I get from him, what he did to me, what I did to him, all of that is very incomplete. And if the whole state doesn't stand in front of your eyes, it's unbearable.

M. Laitman: What do you want to say? 

Student: If I understand the connection between us in the Ten: If I work in bringing myself closer to the friends but I also have some calculations with them. How much will I get, how much will it do good to me, how much will I get spirituality from that? That is not a whole state. 

M. Laitman: Maybe. 

Student: How can I bring this whole state to our connection in the Ten? How can I bring a whole state to our connection so that we are truly as one man and one heart. That as will be upon us, how do you reach that state where you live in the complete state? 

M. Laitman: You want love between you to be without any conditions, right, simply unconditional love.

Student: What do we need to do to reach that state? 

M. Laitman: To constantly think about that and to pray; to pray to the Creator so that He will help us reach such love.

Question (Latin 1 and Women Heb 2): (01:07:35) What are the conditions to receive the Creator as Good that does Good? What needs to happen in the person? 

M. Laitman: The person needs to have a desire to reveal the Creator as Good that does Good to the good and to the bad in all states.

Student: What purifies the vessels to be worthy of revelation of the face? 

M. Laitman: Study and prayer.

Question (USA Midwest): (01:08:11) I heard that spirituality is not in order to receive. Does that mean we need to have to be in constant restriction? 

M. Laitman: No, only where we feel that here can be a breakthrough into my will to receive from above. So, there I perform a restriction. I close the vessel. 

Question (Women Turkiye 7): (01:08:43) If I see that everything is good, what is the work that I do? What should be my request in that state? 

M. Laitman: If I feel good, I want to relate it to the Creator; that He illuminates me in such a way and I am grateful to Him. 

Question (Women Rehovot 1): (01:09:13) I heard that it was said that everything depends on the opening of the Creator, how open He is to the person. What does that depend on? 

M. Laitman: The opening of the Creator to the person depends on the extent by which the person is open to the Creator. I am for My beloved and my beloved is mine. 

Student: What is special about the connection in the Ten that the Creator loves in the person? 

M. Laitman: The Creator loves in the person the yearning of the person to reach and embrace with the whole of humanity.

Question (Women Moscow): (01:10:15) It is written that He is good to the bad and to the good. Who are the bad? 

M. Laitman: Bad are those who are distant and good are those who are close to the Creator.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:10:34) You said something before I didn't understand. You said the reset point or zeroing point is that you bring yourself to a sense of zero, neither this nor that, let's say between good and bad.

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: What exactly is that state?

M. Laitman: It's neither good nor bad, a person is really nothing, like a baby.

Student: Why does he need to bring himself to such a state? 

M. Laitman: That, from that point onward he can measure where he is in relation to the friends, the Creator, the world. 

Student: How can there be such a state of zero in reality? We learned that there's the advantage of light from darkness. There's always some attitude to something. So, what does it mean? 

M. Laitman: But you always need to seek that point to see what it means to you, because certainly it is all relative. 

Student: What is that point where there is nothing relative like that? What is the zero point? 

M. Laitman: There is no such point, it's in order for you to find your zero.

Student: How do I find it? 

M. Laitman: What did we speak about? 

Student: That a person needs to bring himself to that feeling of zero – when he has neither good nor bad in the middle.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: How does he bring himself to that? How does he reset himself or zeroes himself?

M. Laitman: In the wisdom of Kabbalah, we do that, but in any case, you can say that it is relative. In the wisdom of Kabbalah, we read that the person needs to come to a state where he submits himself toward everyone, toward the friends, toward the whole world. And from that point onward, he can rise to the Creator. 

Student: This state of complete surrender towards everyone?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: That's what it means to reset yourself, to bring yourself to the state of zero? 

M. Laitman: But you cannot do that, how would you know? 

Student: That’s what I’m asking, what is that point of zero that one needs to and is able to do something about, towards it? 

M. Laitman: I don't know how to explain it but it's really impossible to do. Once Kabbalists went to all kinds of places, they entered their inner work, I don't want to get into that. It's not according to the method. 

Student: What is our method? 

M. Laitman: Our method is only the society: Through a small society, one needs to build oneself to become a friend in the world group.

Student: What am I longing for in the group? 

M. Laitman: Yearning for?

Student: Yes, I want to discover the good and not the bad, what am I trying?

M. Laitman: You have to bestow through a small society, to give contentment to the Creator.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:14:58) Why on the way to love, which is such a desired thing all over the world, everywhere, why do we have to go through subjugation, annulment, resetting, zeroing yourself? Why does it have to be there? 

M. Laitman: Otherwise, you won't feel that love. 

Student: Why? 

M. Laitman: Because. Let’s keep going.

Reading: (01:15:39) Item 105

However, all this comes to a person from the moment he attains onward. Yet, one does not want to remember all the torment caused by the Providence in concealment of the face he had suffered before he attained the above disclosure of the face, since “love will cover all crimes.” Nevertheless, it is considered a great flaw, even with love among people, much less concerning the truthfulness of His Providence, since He is good and does good to the good and to the bad.

Therefore, we must understand how one can obtain His love in such a way that he will feel and know that the Creator has always done him wondrous good, since he was born onward, that He has never, nor will ever cause him an ounce of harm, which is the second manner of love. 

M. Laitman: Yes, clear, it's clear what he's writing?

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:17:07) When he writes that this all comes from the moment he attains onward. What exactly is defined as attainment for a person?

M. Laitman: Well, attainment for man is what he feels that he gets from the Creator. 

Student: According to that?

M. Laitman: He very simply, yes.

Student: If a person feels like he's receiving from the Creator, then that's called attainment? Meaning, you only define attainment in relation to that?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: What about all the conditions around that lead a person to attainment? 

M. Laitman: That could be around the attainment, it could be wisdom, all kinds of states. 

Student: But it's not defined as attainment?

M. Laitman: No.

Student: At what stage does a person become ripe, ready for attainment? 

M. Laitman: That, when he already has the vessels for it, that he can discover the revelation of the Creator's actions towards him in a way, in the correct way. 

Student: How do we attain such vessels that you can start relating correctly to the Creator? 

M. Laitman: Only the Creator, where can you attain vessels – you don't have anything else besides Him.

Student: So, where here is the attainment because He gives you the vessels, you attain them in reality. So, what remains of a person if He does everything upon you?

M. Laitman: Everything that's revealed is revealed in our relation towards the Creator, None Else Besides Him. That's why we should only be aimed towards Him and He's the one we want to be connected to. 

Student: In this process when a person enters the reality of None Else Besides Him, what is in the hands of a person? What is the labor of a person to enter this reality if eventually the Creator gives you these vessels? 

M. Laitman: The person's relation is prayer, a request, and preparing himself.

Student: That's the place, I don't know if you call it the free but the only place where a person can operate? The place of prayer? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:20:46) The answer talked about in this attainment that we scrutinized where a person feels that the Creator is giving everything to him. This second Providence, is it something a person attains, or is it love that he gives back to the Creator? 

M. Laitman: It's an answer that a person attains, it's still not love.

Student: He defines it as the second manner of love where transgressions become merits, and he also says it's the revelation of the face? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And then the repentance is that he receives on one hand, but he has to give back somehow?

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: Is it some kind of inclusive, closed system? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: Does it remain permanent, or can he, God forbid, retreat from there? 

M. Laitman: No, it's a permanent state. Well, what are we doing?

Reader: (01:22:03) We're going to move to the next part of the lesson, and sing a song first.

Song: (01:22:07)