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Part 2 Урок на тему "Віддавати заради віддачі"

Урок на тему "Віддавати заради віддачі"

Dec 16, 2024
To all the lessons of the collection: Отдавать ради отдачи

The transcript has been transcribed and edited from English simultaneous interpretation, thus there may be potential semantic inaccuracies within it.

Daily Lesson (Morning) December 16, 2024.

Part 2: To Bestow in Order to Bestow - Selected Excerpts from the Sources. Item #6.

Reader: We are reading selected excerpts from our sources in the topic: Bestowing in Order to Bestow, we are in Number 6 by Rabash. 

Reading: (01:14) 6. RABASH, Article No. 37 (1990), "What Is, 'The Shechina Is a Testimony to Israel,' in the Work?"

When a person wants to work Lishma [for Her sake], meaning to bestow in order to bestow, there is nothing to answer it. This is called “Blunt his teeth.” In other words, the answer is that we must go with force, meaning above reason, since within reason, the wicked is right. This is called “Blunt his teeth.” He said that a person cannot defeat the evil at once, but that this work is in ascents and descents until a person is rewarded with winning it and taking upon himself the burden of the Kingdom of Heaven as faith above reason. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:34) To take upon himself the burden of the Kingdom of Heaven in faith above reason. What does that mean? 

M. Laitman: Meaning all that is written that a person has to perform, he's willing to take upon himself and to perform it, to execute it.

Student: What is the Kingdom of Heaven? 

M. Laitman: The Kingdom of Heaven is a degree, that is above him. 

Student: So, what does it mean to take upon himself the burden of the Kingdom of Heaven? 

M. Laitman: That where it talks about the degree above him, which is called the Kingdom of Heaven. He is compelled, obligated, to accept it, receive it and observe it. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:33) What does it mean to take upon himself the burden of the Kingdom of Heaven and above reason? 

M. Laitman: You can't receive it within reason. 

Student: The reason is that he feels that he's having profits or advancing from it? What does, in reason, mean?

M. Laitman: I cannot say how to receive the Kingdom of Heaven with faith within reason.

Student: So, we're only engaging in the burden of the Kingdom of Heaven above reason? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: He writes about the wicked that doesn't want to do this action. So, when the wicked one awakens, what does it mean to blunt his teeth? What is that action? 

M. Laitman: That means that he's willing to break in him all the foundations of the vessels that are received, as he cannot, he's not capable within him. 

Student: Can I say, maybe in other words, that it's a longing to acquire new vessels of bestowal? 

M. Laitman: No, no. 

Student: So, that's not the direction? 

M. Laitman: No. 

Student: Sorry, I was confused, can you maybe focus us? What is the direction of blunting his teeth – not receiving the same vessels? 

M. Laitman: To not agree with those scrutinies that can come to him by the teeth. And then he'll reach success. 

Student: Okay, I'll think about it. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (05:23) What do the ascents and descents help us to beat the wicked one, to defeat him? 

M. Laitman: They give a person two points in reference with his state, his attitude, and the relation of nature to him, the Creator to him. 

Student: From this turnaround of descent then ascent; and every turnaround, what does a person gain from that? What is left because from time to time it seems that he's advancing and defeating that wicked one. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So, what should I or we, gain from every descent and then ascent? 

M. Laitman: From every descent and ascent, we can benefit, that round, itself. That we acquire, swallow and it becomes a part of us. In which I can be in it both in ascents and descents, I can work with it. 

Student: What does it mean to work with it, from the previous time to the next time, how do I work better? I have experience, I went through a descent and an ascent or we have been through it. I come to the next round in the game. 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: So, what do I have in my hands, what did I gain? 

M. Laitman: You've gained that that descent and that ascent are now in your hands. They didn't come from above and you can work with them. 

Student: To defeat the wicked, that depends on me understanding who he is,? What he is? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: Is it right to say, maybe I'm completely not in the direction but is it right to say, that revealing the Creator depends on revealing the wicked one and knowing how to defeat him? Is that right to think that way? 

M. Laitman: Yes, that's how we come closer to the Creator.

Student: So, when a person comes closer to revealing the Creator, he actually discovers and understands the wicked one more, not the Creator? And then in the end, he might reach something called a revelation of the Creator, whatever it is. 

M. Laitman: Yes, whatever it is. 

Student: When we now discover that wicked one more and more in the Ten, is there anything to speak about what we revealed? Or is it private for everyone? 

M. Laitman: It's not worthwhile, I think that what can help a person is that he transcends above the wicked and demands from the Creator to advance him. For Him to illuminate, for Him to shine, and draw him upwards from the questions, the concerns of the wicked. 

Student: The more you go through more and more rounds, you discover that that wicked one is in you, it's you, it's not someone external. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Where can a person get forces to overcome himself because he discovers that he is the wicked one. It's not someone out there, it's something in me.

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: So, then what? I discover more and more hatred, a desire to stay away from that self? 

M. Laitman: You gradually feel that you have the power to stand outside of the wicked – outside the wicked. And then through all kinds of actions, you want to abstain from it, and thus, you advance towards correction this way. 

Student: I want to abstain from him. In the end, that wicked one, do I have to put him on the side or do I have to defeat him? Should I just ignore him and say, you be here, I'm going to jump above you, or should I kill him or make him disappear? What happens with that wicked one? 

M. Laitman: This depends on one's fate; but, nevertheless, he is rewarded, he benefits. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (11:34) Yesterday, we had a Ten’s meeting and the feeling was that we didn't even look at the wicked one, we didn't even see him. We had a meeting, it was really a feeling of advancement. So, that's an example to advance through the good. Not to look at the wicked one at all, not even consider it. So, the question is it's clear that more coarseness will come. How do we advance in the most beneficial way because, it was really a feeling that we went through something new. 

M. Laitman: By what did you go through it? 

Student: Connection, concern on one another, we were all present. Today we came, the table was full of friends. I woke up without an alarm clock just like a spring. How do you keep this thing?

M. Laitman: Very good, we'll continue that way!

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (12:49) In reason, is that always the wicked one? In reason, it's always wicked? 

M. Laitman: Within reason, it usually is, yes. 

Student: But, also, to hear you have to go above reason, you need a vessel to hear it. A person has to understand somehow that he has to go above. So, is there like a split inside his reason? How does it work? 

M. Laitman: That's something we'll discover, later. 

Student: If in the Ten, a person thinks that you have to go this way or that way. And he sees it in the sources, he sees that's what's written, he hears it from the teacher but the Ten thinks something else. So, should he annul and go above reason according to what the Ten says? That's what he thinks, that they think something else. 

M. Laitman: Well, and? 

Student: So, should he always follow the mind of the Ten because his reason is against it. 

M. Laitman: He should check it.

Student: How can he check? He has reason, he thinks one thing, he can prove it, it's written this way, I heard this: You have to do this, a very strong reason, let's say. How can he go above it and towards which direction should he go above it? 

M. Laitman: What's written? 

Student: To blunt his teeth with force, to take the burden of the Kingdom of Heaven. So, what is that? 

M. Laitman: The Kingdom of Heaven is what we receive from above and we receive it above all our claims.

Student: Should we see it as something he gets from his friends, from his teacher? How does it come to a person, the Kingdom of Heaven, how does he feel it? Because it is reason, it's always a lie?

M. Laitman: Think more. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (15:53) You said, that it depends on our fate. One who can overcome the wicked, it depends on his fate. What do you mean by that? 

M. Laitman: The fact, that it depends on our fate, I can't say. Certainly, it is but how we receive our fate, here's the question.

Student: Let's say, when you reveal the wicked it also comes from the Creator, it's also from above. It's not a self-quality, it's something given from above. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: As we're coming closer to the Convention, so when we were speaking about the attack, my question is what do we do now in the Ten in order to really hold on to the attack? The first question is what kind of attack are we doing? If you could help, what type of attack do we need to do right now in the Ten? 

M. Laitman: We do attack against ourselves, against our habits, our character – the evil inclination in each of us, that's it. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (17:54) Can a person affect his fate? If I look at myself, I don't see that my fate is going in a good direction. So, can I affect, influence, my fate as mine, to make it good, to succeed? 

M. Laitman: How is it possible? 

Student: I don't know, fate is something that's written down and that's it, isn't it? The question is if you can change it, what's written? 

M. Laitman: Only if you draw to it the upper light. 

Student: So, it is possible. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Now, we're here sitting for decades, asking questions and you're answering us. How do we concentrate into that point of determination? What do you expect of us? 

M. Laitman: I expect from everyone, for everyone to embrace and in this embrace, each wants to uplift the society that he holds on in this hug. And the society will sustain him, will hold him.

Student: Clear, so now we're in the morning lesson, and we have a special inspiration on us in a certain intensity, and we want this intensity to grow. Without a big intensity, without a big desire, we won't succeed. 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: What are we lacking to pull a bigger desire on us? 

M. Laitman: Our desire, probably? 

Student: When I look at the picture, I see that during the day, I fall completely. And the question is if during the day it's important to increase the desire or should we just concentrate on the morning lesson? And if we succeed here, so we succeed. 

M. Laitman: This is for everyone to decide, each should decide that. 

Student: What do you recommend? 

M. Laitman: I recommend the morning lesson. 

Student: Focus on the morning lesson, this is where our success is.

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: And if we thought during the day on concerns about making a living in the streams of life? 

M. Laitman: Then we rise again and continue again. 

Student: How do we come to a strong intensity in our desire? When will it come, what does it depend on? 

M. Laitman: What does it depend upon? On our faith. 

Student: How do we pull the light, draw the light? That it will bring us to complete devotion? 

M. Laitman: That depends on our influence on one another.

Student: Do we need all of society for this?

M. Laitman: Probably, yes. 

Student: What should we do that in our society, a stronger force of desire will come. What do we do, it's felt that there is a desire but it's limited, it's not enough. 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: In order to really come close between us. 

M. Laitman: We need this nearing to unite the goal and to settle all the stages to reach it. It's all that we need to do. 

Student: Do you think we're close to it, that we can draw that desire? 

M. Laitman: That is for sure, yes! But it depends on the unity between you.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (23:25) I can testify on myself, that when I came, I had no doubts. I saw Baal HaSulam, and I said, that's it. But since then, the doubts grow, not about the path, doubts about myself. Should I see that as a good sign or, maybe, it's a self-lie? 

M. Laitman: No, no, that's correct because, I want to show you that more and more that it depends all on you. So, what's right for today, all that remains for you is to choose by yourself. 

Student: Because in the end what it seems to me, it's a matter of forces. If the Creator is the absolute force. That has no weakness and everything below it is something that tries to resemble and to be strong like Him but he's not strong like them. I don't know how to explain it but a person needs forces. Eventually, a person needs forces, all these overcomings, you have to get them from somewhere. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So, these are the doubts, a person, if he feels that he doesn't have forces, he's not getting them. He knows what he's supposed to think, what he's supposed to feel but he doesn't always feel that it comes, and that it's on the horizon. So, it's just annulment and to keep going, that's it? 

M. Laitman: We need to know well in each state what I need in order to advance. That's it. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (25:41) Every morning we pray in the prayer book, and it's written in there that everyone should take upon themselves the burden of the Kingdom of Heaven from one another. What does it mean from one another? 

M. Laitman: That's the matter of our common prayer and then we connect around the same matter, all of us together. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (26:25) I heard that we have to reach an embrace where each raises up the society and the society raises him up. What does it mean to raise up the society? 

M. Laitman: That means to give society the forces, his force. And then from society feeling that now they have that force, so they can give that same cause of the force, their forces. 

Student: How does the Creator help this happen? 

M. Laitman: The Creator turns all these things around. 

Student: We want to give the society the ability to have the force of bestowal on their heart, yes? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And if I don't give this prayer to the Creator so it's not that I actually want to receive the force. I need this force for the friends. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: The Creator can help everyone in this only with the force of prayer? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (27:55) To scrutinize a little of the matter of the Kingdom of Heaven that comes to a person. Is a person aware that the Kingdom of Heaven is coming down on him right now? 

M. Laitman: No. 

Student: So, he probably has a point of choice, here? 

M. Laitman: Well? 

Student: The question is how does a person need to accept upon himself the burden of the Kingdom of Heaven? He talks about blunting your teeth, like you have to do this act of chewing this matter. And then, eventually, a person needs to receive this for himself. He would say, that this act of chewing softens that which he received by trying to remember that the Creator sent this to him. That he has an opportunity, here, that he can actually turn outwards towards the friends, specifically in this special place. Is that called chewing, to chew their teeth? Maybe? 

M. Laitman: No. We're going to talk about it. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (29:31) If it seems to me that I want to come closer to the friend and to give him and hug him. It seems to me like he's rejecting, that he's repulsing. What do you need to do in such a state? 

M. Laitman: So, what do you do? 

Student: I don't know, it seems to me like I want to give him the goods. Maybe I need to intensify it but I don't really know what's good for him and what's right to do to him.

M. Laitman: So, how can you measure it? 

Student: I feel that he's being rejected from me. 

M. Laitman: And then? 

Student: I'm kind of in a state where I don't know what to do. I'm kind of frozen somewhat and I don't know how to advance from there. 

M. Laitman: All right, yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (30:44) You said this week, when you say something, it gets kind of split this way. It emerges out of you and someone hears this way, someone hears another way. Or, just like the example that you just heard now, an embrace. One will interpret it as one has to physically hug people, another internally, spiritually. And in the workshop, a friend said, that today in the preparation for the lesson we did this round. And a friend said that each should go out of himself and hold on to the prayer for the friends and he said, that he heard the lesson differently. In what way does this help us, this situation where we're praying for the friends, not Lishma, from mouth to ear, to hear the lesson more internally? 

M. Laitman: It helps a lot because you, along with the content of the lesson, you also get the friend's relation. 

Student: This jumping a degree for us needs to be a state in which we, through our common prayer?

M. Laitman: You connect your inspiration, your awakenings of everyone. And from that height, you can later on judge society, the group. But everyone!