Morning Lesson March 16, 2021
is made from simultaneous translation which leaves possibility for differences from audio
1. Rav’s Introduction: We are in the most important topic right now, the Passover holiday, which is the ascension above the will to receive, the ego to the will to receive, which is somewhat aimed at the upper force, the Creator. To reach the quality of bestowal through the friends to the Creator and establishing, aiming we at Him in the best possible way and this is the most important. Because here we have to learn gradually but profoundly the relationship between our desire, the egoistic desire in us, the desire to bestow that we can receive from above and how to organize all of those different desires in the person. The Creator also is within the person this is called BoRe, come and see, so how can I establish the right relationship between the Creator, Pharaoh, and Moses so this scrutiny that I wish to do each time will direct me each time increasingly more accurately towards the spiritual world. Why are there three roles here? The Creator, Moses, and Pharaoh why does the Creator push Moses to Pharaoh as He says I will go with you don't be afraid even though Moses is scared not wanting to go, the Creator forces him to go because by being scared of Pharaoh, Moses will be more aimed at the Creator.
We have to have Pharaoh, because specifically Pharaoh, as it says, brought the children of Israel closer to their father above. How can we discover that we are facing such forces called Pharaoh that we are facing an enemy, someone who hates us and who is evil? At first, he was good to us and then in the seven years of hunger we began to discover him as evil. So, how can we identify him as evil to the point that we have no choice but to escape, on the one hand, he gives us livelihood and fulfillment, feeding us and we come to such a recognition of evil that we are willing to do anything. It says I am better off dead that we are willing to go away and dive into the Red Sea, anything besides staying there, how did we come to that? So that our ego will seem to us as our biggest enemy and that it is our enemy, our hater because it is facing us or it is against the Creator. That also is a question. So, Pharaoh is against the Creator and Moses' role is to be in between, so what can Moses do? On the other hand, we understand what we can do the greater the will to receive, the more open and revealed it is to us accordingly, we can discover the purpose of creation, our role, that the results will be greater.
The time of the slavery in Egypt is to recognize Pharaoh as evil and to escape it, correcting it and also according to the intensity and time of the revelation of Pharaoh there is also a similar time and intensity of the correction of Pharaoh, that we correct the desire in order to bestow adding an intention to it, in a detailed and gradual step-by-step manner. Clearly, the greater the Pharaoh then the greater is the revelation. Since when we begin to discover the Pharaoh as evil and what exactly makes it evil, when exactly do we want to run away from it, when do we feel that we are standing against it like Moses running away from the house of Pharaoh. Not just running away but running away for 40 years to acquire some force of bestowal so that he can then come to Pharaoh and begin to talk to him from a different point. Not being part of the house of Pharaoh but it is like a different Moses and a different Pharaoh now, it is no longer of father and son's so to speak. At first Moses and Pharaoh are like father and son that he grows there as a prince and after 40 years of being with Jethro, he comes back and shows himself as if not knowing Pharaoh, it is not his father or anything like that, or his grandfather. He is his enemy, standing against him.
Another question, why only through the group can we position Pharaoh against us and determine the right attitude, our correct attitude to him. Meaning if not through the group then we won't be able to correctly set up our relationship, this situation, this scenario between Pharaoh and the Creator as we won't be able to properly organize this, unless we establish it through the ten. We can see here that we need this triangle of Pharaoh, Moses, and Creator similarly in our work we need the person, the group, and the Creator. How can we properly position these two triangles in the right relationship between them, what is the difference and the similarity between Pharaoh and the seven years of hunger and the seven years of satiation? It should be a major and principal difference. Is it a difference only with respect to Pharaoh, or Moses or the people of Israel where Moses wasn't there first in this whole process, in this recognition? So, seven years of satiation and seven years of hunger what is the difference in the people of Israel and Pharaoh with how he behaves towards them, how can we discover our ego as helpmate against, although it is against the Creator it is helpful, an assistance. Specifically, the way that it functions is what pushes us to the Creator and by this we come closer to the Creator. In other words, how does Pharaoh as it is written, bring the children of Israel closer to the Father in heaven?
This is more or less the first set of questions that we need to answer in order to change our attitude to everything that is happening to us and put ourselves in front of our fate in the right way, using all of these forces with the correct harmony between them. That we may certainly recognize that each and every state comes from none else besides him and that he in a special way pushes us towards forces of bestowal. These are essentially the questions that I would ask for now. Why did I ask them now, you might not remember all these questions right now but I just want to show you how important this situation is that we are learning about because by that we change our relationship to the Creator, to Pharaoh, to ourselves and to everything that is happening to us? That everything that we begin to see, the evil inclination, Pharaoh as helping us to turn to the Creator so as to connect to the Creator, to need the help of the Creator, adhesion with the Creator.
As it says Pharaoh brought the people of Israel closer to the Father in Heaven. Pharaoh is the evil force that scares us and pushes us towards the Creator and then we come to the Creator as there is no other way to reach the Creator without the negative force, the force of our ego this is why it is called helpmate against me, against the Creator. We have to very well digest it, to feel it, to absorb it and then we will be able to establish these forces, examining and investigating in each and every state. This is how we will be able to unlock these major forces of nature by which we can establish ourselves as Adam, similar to the Creator. Similar to the Creator because it is incorporated with Pharaoh, making himself similar to the Creator, there is a very unique work that we do and this work is not that we do it is rather that we want it to happen in the correct way. Then we ask the Creator and when our request is correct then He does it.
2. S. (16:15) If we were to take the two triangles 1 the group, and the Creator and Moses, Pharaoh and the Creator it turns out that “I” is the Pharaoh?
R. It depends what is the “I” that is Pharaoh, first I identify with Pharaoh that is in the seven years of satiation, when I receive from him more of that will to receive in order to receive and it is all good, until I identify that this will to receive actually pushes me away from the goal of life, the goal of creation and the Creator, all of those degrees where I feel more that I detach from spirituality and become immersed in corporeality. This is what Pharaoh has to do. Not only increase our will to receive so that we become more complex animals but that we recognize that we want other achievements that animals don't.
S. How can we want to run away from him?
R. By envy, lust, and honor that you feel in the group, you start from such feelings, such discernments that we get through the group, just like any person in life. If I lived among animals, I would be like an animal even though I am a human. If I lived in a village, I would feel that is where I need to be, not necessarily that I need to leave the village. This is how we advance, only by nature or the Creator, which is one in the same. Increasing our will to receive within us that we no longer want to agree with what we were, with what we have and this is how we advance.
3. S. (18:54) How should we arrange these desires among ourselves so we go toward the Creator in a strong condition against Pharaoh?
R. We need to see what I just asked and understand these questions very well and try to find the correct answers then we will establish, stabilize ourselves correctly towards Pharaoh and ourselves.
4. S. (19:52) It seems that the main driving force is running away, that we are afraid and we are running away. Can we establish a positive attraction on the other side that we are feeling joy to the Creator to get closer to bestowal?
R. Only by the group can you find the positive force that will track you forward and that is by envy, lust, and honor.
5. S. (20:35) Why did you say that we need to connect with the force of Pharaoh, don't we need to run away from Egypt?
R. Yes, we need to come to a state where we want to escape Egypt, in the meantime I don't feel at this time that we are learning it, I still don’t find the desire to escape Egypt within me, I feel good. I am activated by forces that only increase within me the need for a Pharaoh, for Egypt, for living there, enjoying there, having a good life. Why do I need to escape? I don't feel bad. If someone tells me that it's written somewhere that it's bad, so it is written but I don't feel it yet as I have my own life, enjoying it and everything is good, so why is that bad? Why is my ego which I live in right now as bad? I don't feel it yet. To the point that I have to let go of it, to abandon it, to be opposite to it. Meaning to be good to others, to give others everything that they want and for me by coming to the love of the created beings and I come to the love of the Creator, I don't feel that that is what's important to me, that Egypt is bad. Maybe I'm not defining Egypt the right way.
6. S. (22:49) If Pharaoh is the force against and also operates as the force that helps, how do we aim our ego for a better connection between us to feel the Creator?
R. That is what we need to learn. We have Pharaoh in the seven years of satiation as there is nothing better than that, he fulfills us, let us live that way, fly to different places in the world, we purchase different things, that we enjoy music, our computers, our children, our home everything. What is bad about Pharaoh? It is a force that helps us to develop our lives on planet Earth in a beautiful way. Go ahead, have a great life and enjoy it then suddenly as opposed to all of those things and evil Pharaoh becomes revealed, why? We don't know why but suddenly we feel bad that all sorts of qualities and incidents appear that we can't enjoy our life the way that we did before the pandemic for example. There are such conditions where we have to sit at home like in prison that we can't go out, that we have to put a mask on my face like a donkey or a horse that has a restrainer. What is good? Suddenly, I see that Pharaoh is fed and we have to recognize that this is called recognition of evil. I started seeing my development that used to be good led me to a bad state and I don't see it yet. I see that now they are reopening all of the places to hang out and people run back there not recognizing that there was something bad about it, that they were dreaming of going back to Egypt. Like we read about the people of Israel in the Torah that they cry to Moses in the desert, saying where did you take us, we want to go back where it was good, everything was great, what was the problem. Where are all the pots filled with meat and garlic and onions where we enjoyed everything that we had, the desert where we had nothing to fill ourselves with. This is what we need to recognize and without it we won’t be able to come out of our ego, Pharaoh.
7. S. (26:51) Pharaoh in the work inside your ten, is something in the desire of Malchut to control and to rule and by this we will come to the correction of the Malchut?
R. Of course, Pharaoh is the ego created by the Creator, this ego at first is neutral, it lets us develop on the levels of still, vegetative, and animate. Then when we begin to develop on the human level we keep developing and it turns out that we start discovering how incapable we are. That we can't just keep going in a simple way but that we have greater recognition of evil, that our ego is evil to us and we don't know what to do. We try through technology, through forms of science to rise above our ego to use it in some way, whatever is possible, that we develop each and everything we can in our world just to continue using our ego. It turns out that we develop the world, we develop technology, we develop human culture which has been going on for thousands of years. But in truth nothing good will come out of that for us, just like we started developing the world 5,800 years ago since the days of Adam HaRishon.
Human development happened before, of course, but that was on a completely corporeal level that did not prevent, interfere with our spiritual development with people living in a simple way, living in order to live. Starting from Adam HaRishon onwards a more ideological human development begins, humanity began to aspire to various forms of development we refer to as the human level of development. Today, we only pay attention to this development and not our inner spiritual development, where I don't care about what is happening with my soul, with my advancement towards the Creator but just how do I live conveniently, comfortably with my body. I will just live another day and another day, and another day in this is my whole goal in life, now comes a time where the Creator forcefully stops us from continuing this kind of development. Then our inability to continue in our material development is what we call crisis, human crisis, technical logical crisis, social crises, it's not really a crisis but it is the Creator showing us that this path takes us to a dead end. Here we have to see ourselves like the children of Israel who are at the stitching point between the transition between the good Pharaoh and the bad Pharaoh. What do we do next? Let us see.
8. S. (32:20) You describe the situation the world goes through the seven years of hunger but now in the ten when we want to exit towards the Creator, do we also have to go through the seven years of hunger and enter the desert?
R. In the ten we have to see this state where we enter seven years of hunger, when does the ten begin, when we begin to clarify how we come out of Egypt and can we come out of Egypt. The person is walking around himself in his group until he realizes that coming to a correct good life is only in order to rise to it as we say we shall see your world in your life. We have to discover the spiritual world in this world and how can we do that? Only by having a different environment. This big global humanity that I am with these 8 billion people, why do I need them if I can't discover the true nature then I need a different environment. The Kabbalists, to attain these things, found a key for this and they say that you have to find a ten or more accurately from above you will get a ten, get into it and get organized with it so that in connection with the friends we will start finding both Moses and the Creator, Pharaoh and reach a stage where through this ten, with this ten you begin the new stage.
9. R. WSQ: (35:26) Let's see how the Creator forces us to reach him specifically by increasing Pharaoh in front of us.
10. R. (36:29) I am asking this, on the one hand we are talking about the story from Torah but in parallel we are discussing what is happening to us, regardless of Pharaoh and Moses but just the driving forces of nature, otherwise, we would be as if we were discussing some theoretical abstract thing.
Excerpt 57 Reader (40:30 - 41:35)
11. R. To the extent that Moses, our force wants to rise above the will to receive coming to the purpose of creation, this force within us turns to the Creator and then asks that in this way, we do acquire connection with the Creator and the Creator helps us triumph against the negative force, the evil inclination and this is how the battle, the evil the internal war happens within us. Here is the question, that how we feel within us these two opposite forces, the Creator and Pharaoh. I don't know what is happening around us, or above in heaven as they write as it is all imaginaries. I know these forces are within me, let's say I identify the Creator and Pharaoh, how do I position myself in between these two, between the good force and the evil force, how do I discover exactly what is the evil and the good force. How do I come to the Creator and ask Him to wage war with Pharaoh as only the Creator can win against him, so how do I organize this as a human? Let's say I have all of the forces, all of the possibilities that are in front of me and I am here in between how do I grab ahold of the Creator like the child grabs ahold of the hands of the adults asking the adult to protect him and to wage whatever war is needed to submit the evil force. How do I do this like a little child, this is how especially The Zohar describes our state that we are like a little child that grabs a hold of the Creator, bringing the Creator to fight with Pharaoh, according to the story he is ready for this, he tells Moses that I am going with you, but Moses’ role is to run the fight so to speak, to conduct the fight between Pharaoh and the Creator without Moses his decision on what or how needs to be done and without that nothing happens.
WSQ: How do we exist as created beings in the role of Moses between Pharaoh and the Creator.
12. R. WSQ: (47:53) Our efforts between Pharaoh and the Creator as we are as Moses in the ten, how do we in practice stabilize the ten in the right way from the forces of Moses, the Creator and Pharaoh?
13. R. (49:52) How do we stabilize in the ten ourselves as if the ten is the whole world? It is a small world which we build, a spiritual world which other than it all of the rest that happens can disappear and not be, where nothing might exist except for the ten. Then in the ten I need to stabilize the three main components. The force of evil, which is Pharaoh, which operates in the correct way in order to push me to the Creator otherwise, I don't need the Creator, the force of good and then I begin to see Pharaoh as a helper in order to achieve, know the Creator. Without him I wouldn't need the Creator, this true Creator as we are trying to get to know, just as it is written, the Pharaoh brought the people of Israel closer to the Creator, to the Father in Heaven. That Pharaoh brought Israel closer to the Creator as this is the role of Pharaoh. Whoever has a high soul and a strong will to receive develops even more forces that are empty and anti-group, and anti-ten, anti-connection, that Pharaoh rules over him not letting him have the possibility of understanding and feeling or agreeing with the spiritual process of connection, because anyone who is greater than his friend his inclination is greater than him, and we need to understand that only in the ten we are in a struggle against Pharaoh in order to actually build upon it our attitude and connection to the Creator.
Excerpt 58 Reader (52:28 - 54:58) twice
14. S. We just read that we don't need to yearn for the result of the revelation of the Creator, we need to yearn for the urgency to reveal him. How does this work out?
R. Okay.
15. S. (55:31) How to connect within, it is written that we need to make efforts not to attain but you have a strong desire to attain, but that we always learn that one who can postpone for tomorrow will not attain, how to connect these two things within us?
R. That is exactly correct because on one hand, I have to come to a great deficiency for the Creator to help me and on the other hand, in that same big deficiency for the Creator to help me there needs to be a recognition that I myself am not capable of helping myself in that way. This is how we advance. We are now touching upon the Center of spiritual work where we need to be connected to the Creator, to ask and obligate Him, to beg Him to do the work against the evil inclination which He created which is Pharaoh and that all of our work is in this to be between the will to receive, which is Pharaoh and the desire to bestow which is the Creator and we place them in the middle in such a way that as much as I can locate these things that we want that are very necessary for the force of bestowal to rule over the force of reception. That is our work, it is not so complicated, but rather, it is more complicated when it goes through our emotions and desires that we need to stabilize them correctly. Intellectually, there is not too much here.
16. S. (57:46) In the workshop scrutinizing your question, there is a sensation the friends spoke about of detaching ourselves from being like Pharaoh, from being like the Creator, from being like the ego. Forces that are aiming us to come into a new state. Where does our cry originate? We are becoming more like operators of these forces, so what makes our cry come out?
R. First of all, we need to come to a state where we are under the control of the evil inclination, under the control of our ego which is aiming us in all directions, confusing us in a way that we are not capable of being directed in the right way to anything. This evil inclination causes us to truly end our lives without any chance, that is one thing. Then we cry and many people cry. It’s like in a pyramid. The next stage is that we come to a state where we have no choice but to rise above our egos. That’s what we need and this can be done only by us asking for a force of the bestowal to rule over the force of reception. This is already not to choose between these two forces, these or those, but in the quality of the forces. Instead of the force of reception to rule me, I want the force of bestowal to rule me. That is already completely different.
S. By keeping both of these forces, we’re using the force of Pharaoh, of the evil inclination, recognition that you use it. But on the other side, we're talking about running away from this force of Pharaoh, so what is this? On one side, we should use this because it's helping us to advance, so what is this running away?
R. Running away means that I'm not using it correctly at the moment. That is considered alluding or running away from it. I can't exit from the force of the Creator or Pharaoh. Neither from the force of good nor the force of bad, as they are forces of nature. But what I can be is here, in between them, in the middle and to choose what I use any given moment in my life and what for. Once in Creator and once in Pharaoh, I need to grow and increase my will to receive in order to advance so I need to grow Pharaoh. Then I need to increase my usage of the will to receive in rising above it, so then I need the force of the Creator. When I run from Egypt and run away from Pharaoh it is not enough. I take with me all kinds of vessels and things that I need from Pharaoh. I correct them in not being under his control already but that I completely come out of the control of them all, not the Creator and not Pharaoh. When I come to my scrutinies in the 40 years of the desert, then I come to the land of Israel. That’s where the Creator's control already is. Eretz, land is ‘desire’ and Israel, Yashar El, ‘straight to the Creator.’ Prior to that, I am either in Egypt or before Egypt, when I am in Babel or Canaan, these are not scrutinized enough -- small egoists. But after I emerge out of Egypt or while I’m in Egypt, I scrutinize everything only towards Pharaoh.
17. S. (01:03:08) What does a “complete desire” mean?
R. A complete desire is where a person doesn't discover that he has anything but this desire. That only this desire is in him and manages him. In his mind and heart, this is considered whole as it all depends on and speaks relatively to the attaining person. Towards a person, to the time and state that he’s in. There is no whole thing. The only complete thing is the Creator.
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19. S. (01:05:11) What is the reason for the prayer? What is the foundation for the prayer that comes from the heart? The desire to exit the rule of Pharaoh or the desire to bestow?
R. The desire to leave the control of the Creator, I don't know what that is. We are always under the control of the upper force where there is none else besides Him. But that the Creator created Pharaoh, I have created the evil inclination, in order for us to feel to what extent we are seemingly outside of the Creator and want to return to Him. That is our actual work. Artificially, where we have such a feeling that we are outside of the Creator and we develop all kinds of means, forces and desires in order to return to Him. This is what we want and need to do. It is like a little child. Although he can't run too far from his mother, the fact that he comes to her wanting to incorporate in her, to climb on her, it gives her contentment.
20. S. (01:07:14) How to come to a state of ‘they sighed’ in the work?
R. Everyone wants the connection and from the connection to come to the mutual force of bestowal, of the Creator/As much as when we want to develop this force of mutual bestowal towards each other, it doesn't work for us. The Creator is not revealed according to the Kli we wanted to define between us, so we come to a state of ‘and the people of Israel sighed from the work.’ But we are not capable of finding between us this attitude, this foundation that the Creator is there. That we are not capable of connecting our desires to the system where the upper force will dwell in it. This is called that the Creator will be revealed in the relations between us. This is what we are crying for, that we are not capable. Then the Creator does build between us such a connection that He is revealed.
S. It is a result of the labor?
R. Yes, it is.
21. S. (01:08:53) How to create in the ten the right environment to discover the force of Moses?
R. Only through the exertion and the connection between us and praying to the Creator to help us. We have nothing else and no other means. Of course, in the story of Egypt, it talks about many discernments. But in truth we don't need to that extent. We just need the connection between us and in this connection as much as possible -- as much as we are capable -- to turn to the Creator crying out that we are not seeing the results in the connection. And it is not important that we just started and the results that we should have. But that we need to nudge Him, that we need to cry. Even if his cry is not something but through this, we will discover our advancing state.
S. Is it like the child that cries?
R. Yes, of course. How are you any different than that child? The child at least knows what he's crying about to him, it is a real and big thing and you will cry even if it is not big and real. But you have to start with something, with some form of connection in the ten and to cry that you can't, why can't you? The fact is that the Creator is not being revealed in the ten is a sign that you can't. This is the bottom line; it has to be simple. We connect, we reveal the Creator according to the extent of connection to Creator is revealed. There are no other possibilities here.
22. S. (01:11:22) If I understood correctly if we receive the request for the force of bestowal, even a little, then we begin to recognize the force of the ego and Pharaoh and then we yearn for connection?
R. That is correct.
23. S. (01:11:56) We learned that in cooperation in the tens to embrace the spiritual qualities of the ten. You said before we need to incorporate with Pharaoh, what is the practical translation of this in the ten? How do we do this?
R. That we want to connect between us despite the forces of rejection that are being revealed. That is called that Pharaoh is helping us, giving us forces of rejection that we see and know we are not getting along, that we are not capable. This is Pharaoh between us. Let's locate him more feeling that he exists between us, like the thick area between us. This is Pharaoh that is not letting us come close to one another. Then we will ask, to turn to the Creator to help us, above Pharoah, not to destroy him but above him, for us to be able to advance to one another reveal the Creator. The Creator is revealed according to the extent of the Pharaoh that has been revealed.
24. S. (01:13:21) Why did we receive such a world of emotions that confuse us so much in the work?
R. You don't understand yet how we need all of it. You didn't give too much or not enough in anything. The Creator does everything only from the beginning of creation to the end of creation. And all of the rest of the states from the beginning to the end and the end to the beginning are only in order to get from the beginning of creation to the end of creation. That is, to bring us to a complete and perfect state and there is no attainment and no understanding of what perfect means. Therefore, you are now claiming what is it for? As usual, anyone who negates something does so in his own flaws. People who don't understand, by this, present themselves as not understanding. But it’s okay. Continue.
25. S. (01:14:31) When we are under the constant rule of Pharaoh and the Creator, we come to despair so what is the right thing to do then?
R. When you are in despair we must bring the despair to the group and to arrange the despair into the opposite. To uplift, to excitement. By the fact that I am Incorporated with the friends, receiving from them forces and inverting the despair to upliftment, to awakening. We will have to work on this a lot. And as much as we will say, today we're in this topic, the most important topic -- there is no more important topic -- you will see how people are in all kinds of forms between this and that, not hot or cold. You don't feel that it's hot or burning. Where is the Creator, where is Pharaoh, where am I? We’re not so much concerned with implementing all of our qualities according to the goal. That also is the control of Pharaoh.
26. S. (01:16:22) Today in the meeting of the ten, we were asked whether we should be worried that we can't accelerate and come to the complete prayer called ‘my sons have defeated me.’ Or should we take the time and come to it comfortably, so to speak. To come to a complete prayer takes more time, so what should we do?
R. The correct approach means that today we want to be in the end of correction, that is it. And not to decide that we will advance today a kilometer and then another hundred feet and then a little more, you will never get there. Whoever doesn't want now to reach the end, does not advance even an inch towards it. Look at a baby or a child, he wants everything. Whatever he has in his desire he wants it all. He's not sufficed in anything. If you stop him somewhere along the way it's a sign that his desire was blocked. So that is why we need every day and every moment to see ourselves as if we are in the end of correction. Not to say, it's enough for me today like this and tomorrow like that. If it's enough for you to remain with the little then you can also remain like you are right now. Therefore, ‘one will help his friend and the envy of the counters will increase wisdom.’ We need to help one another, here, and only in this way will we be able to advance.
27. S. (01:18:29) The attitude that we need to have these two forces of Pharaoh and the Creator is so complex and subtle. How do the Kabbalists not get confused or afraid of getting confused with this complexity?
R. Because the Creator is above them all, and He arranged all of these things and is playing with in this way. Both for and against. He created Pharaoh and He created the evil inclination and He tells Moses to come to Pharaoh for I have hardened his heart. You see how He says it. Come to Pharaoh for I have made him more cruel. How can you invite little Moses who is small and afraid not knowing what to do -- come to Pharaoh? I made him stronger now. He's more cruel and waiting to eat you up. But that is how the Creator says it, why? Because His goal is for Moses, that a person will ask the Creator for Him to defeat Pharaoh and take all of this force of reception from him and give all upon this the force of bestowal on his behalf. Then those two forces will connect correctly in Moses and then Moses will be great.
S. There is an example from our corporeal life that resembles this kind of attitude?
R. You think and you will find it.
28. S. (01:20:19) So, basically, in the state of the final correction, the created being becomes more developed, more sophisticated than the force of the Creator?
R. More than the Creator?
S. Yes. Does he become more involved than the Creator? Because the Creator is complete bestowal and love. He has no freedom of choice between bestowal and reception, and the created being has both sides?
R. Okay let it be that way as long as you develop in achieving both the force of bestowal and the force of reception included in both in the most excessive way then you will discover it all emerges from the Creator. The force of bestowal comes from Him and the force of reception is what he created. But that also by Him appearing. Then you, who are incorporated by the both of them in all kinds of ways and manners, come to a state where you see that there is none else besides Him. Nevertheless, the Creator is above.
29. S. (01:21:35) How do we overcome the indifference in the 10? How can we make all of the friends active in the 10 so that the 10 will be stronger and always working, and paying attention to each and every common point.
R. I don't know, I don't know how to overcome that. Let's say you have a child and he doesn't want to learn, he doesn't want to work, he doesn't want anything. Not even to play, he doesn't want. He is kind of indifferent, what do we say? Poor thing. He doesn't have a force of bad, he doesn't have a force of good. How will he develop, then he has slowness and now you have a 10 that is in that state. So what can you do, I don't know. They say, nevertheless, there is a doctor for all doctors and there's a doctor for all the sick, which is the Creator, So, go to Him and complain for Him to help you. There is nothing that you can do. There is only to pray. Now, if you can't pray, and there's no desire for it, but you are in a 10 -- and what is it in the 10, where each is different than the other -- we can decide you are on duty at these hours and he's on duty the other hours. Each during the time that he is on duty needs to think how he needs to uplift the society. How he needs to shake up the society. Even according to a mechanical simple clock, not through the desire in the heart, we can nevertheless start to shake us up and according to our mechanism not according to spirituality, start at least in that and we'll see how that is also beneficial. That is why we are in a corporeal world where we can operate even when we have no desire. Because in the spiritual world it’s only according to the spiritual desire. That’s why when we don't yet have a true desire for spirituality, we don't feel we're in spirituality. But on the other hand, when we are in corporeality, we can operate ourselves in such a way.
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30. R. That is the point that we need to press ourselves to come to a connection and the revelation of the Creator and if we stumble upon a state where we are not capable, then yell at him for him to help us, then we have a need but if we are yelling now without trying ourselves then it is not accepted because it is not a prayer. Prayer needs to be out of a deficiency, A prayer is to raise MAN Mayin Nukvin, a deficiency so if we don't try to connect between us to reveal the Creator between us as a common force of bestowal then we have nothing.
31. S. (01:28:03)) If possible can you clarify the concept of Moses that lets us nullify in the connection with the 10 to discover the evil of the ego that the ego appears stronger and this is hardening of the heart as a result of Moses strengthens, suffering that brings us to the true prayer?
R. Yes, let's say so.
32. S. (01:28:39) In what is the climax of Pharaoh’s power expressed?
R. By him saying that I will not let them go out that I am going to burden them even more, to bury them in Egypt. They won't be able to do anything but be my slaves without any ability to run away, they will want to be my slaves with all of their desire. That is the force of Pharaoh and this is what the ego wants. Like The Zohar says that she brought the bitter drop on the edge of the sword and the person with no choice, just opens his mouth and took the drop of poison and died. It is what our will to receive wants.
33. S. (01:29:28) Egypt is the place where we start building our soul. If this is so why is it regarded as a descent into Egypt as it seems a higher state then Joseph, when he couldn't connect the brothers, why is it regarded as a descent?
R. It is all measured by the desire we are in, if we now work with our will to receive it is called that we are descending. If the will to receive obligates us to work in it, this is why it's called we are slaves in Egypt. It is so good to be a slave that we are willing to remain.
S. So a descent is in the terms of the will to receive and how much it controls me?
R. The descent is the quality of the desire and the control of me in its essence.
34. S. (01:31:28) In the work in the 10 the rejection from the 10 and from the friends, this is Pharaoh? Love is the Creator, a quality, what is the quality of Moses of work in the 10?
R. Moses in the ten is the force that wants to take the whole ten out of in order to receive towards in order to bestow, that is Moses. The point in the heart of the 10 is called Moses, the heart is all the 10 and the point in the heart is Moses.
35. S. (01:32:25) If I heard and understood correctly the yearning every moment should be for the final correction and nothing less, this is something I feel is difficult to understand, does your name for a complete annulment in the 10 and yearning for complete prayer for the friends enough or not enough for the end of Correction?
R. It's not enough because it's the means and not a goal.
36. S. (01:33:01) Pharaoh that is revealed in the 10 is often revealed in sneaky ways. It makes a friend fail and is a problem in the 10. If we descend as a 10 if we can take it as an opportunity for ascending, then we all advanced. How do we create this atmosphere in the 10 where we can see every form of pharaoh as an opportunity to advance?
R. It all depends upon you and your focus on the scrutiny, speak between you and don't get confused as it should be something very focused and to the point. You will see that it really helps.
37. S. (01:34:04) What does it mean to make an effort to connect before we return to the Creator?
R. An effort to connect before we turn to the Creator that is what we have to do, yes.
S. How can we make an effort to connect before we turn to the Creator?
R. In all forms that's why we're in the corporeal world, let's start connecting between us to determine what articles we read that we find times for these things until we reach a state where we want a more interconnection and ask the Creator to give us a more interconnection and why don't we have it. On the way, we discover ourselves that we are even less connected than before because for now the will to receive has been growing and in control and suddenly, in a place where it seemed to me that the 10 is so beautiful, nice, compact and good. Suddenly, I discover that everyone is going into all kinds of corners, no one's looking at each other. It is hard to gather even for a small discussion virtually. I can't even imagine to do it physically, we used to connect in such a way. We need to see as much as we become with owners of a bigger egoistic desire and with that the force that can connect between us.
S. In this time when we exert with our own strength where is the creator in the story?
R. Depict this for yourself, look at our general Partzuf look at all of the faces in the groups, everybody is asleep, nobody wants to wake up with a cry to connect to speak. Half an eye is open in each and every one this is good, it is called a burdening of the heart that comes to us from Pharaoh even though we are studying about the most sensitive matter that how we can work with these three forces of pharaoh the Creator and Moses in the middle who is our representative and except for that we don't need anything. Yet we're supposedly studying how to organize and discover who Pharaoh and the Creator and Moses is that is pulling us from corporeality into spirituality and we don't really care. Look, everybody is sleeping, I understand and I will keep going as usual but that we need to see what the state is and we have to learn from this. Even though this state isn't so happy and filled with action, still this is a state that we see as much as the will to receive his dwelling in us and completely grabbing us to put us to sleep.
S. We still don't have the deficiency and we are asleep but we want to make external efforts to connect, how do we take the Creator with us in that state?
R. We need to see the good as the bad, if we have recognition of evil what is that? That I see in this evil an ability, an opportunity to advance towards corrections of the good so then I already know this evil as good, I already inverted to good. I try to reach a state that I thank the Creator for sending me this evil because without it I won't reveal anything. I'm already coming out of the previous state of falling asleep and I see now I can specifically be in the good state that the darkness will shine as light. Specifically in this darkness we can see ourselves in a more correct way and this is how we advance.
S. What is the difference between taking the Creator with us in the initial stage when everything is still superficial and a state where we really have a prayer to the Creator when we tried to connect but couldn't. What is the difference between taking the Creator of the first time and the second time in our cry to him?
R. That is something you have to search and scrutinize, here is your place where you are dormant.
38. S. (01:40:17) We don't want to be asleep, you said there is no prayer without a deficiency. In order to increase the deficiency, can you direct and guide us once again, what is the mutual system of bestowal and how to implement today in the 10?
R. I can't answer you on such a broad question, you have to read Rabash writings about the ten and you will find everything there.
39. S. (01:41:06) We are stuck between the Creator and the Pharaoh where do we obtain the exact powers so Pharaoh can't influence us?
R. It's not that we want Pharaoh not to influence us, we want Pharaoh and the Creator to influence us but that the force of the Creator will control the force of pharaoh and correct it, then we will have the will to receive from pharaoh and the intention to bestow from the Creator and in this way we can advance.
40. S. (01:42:08) The effort to connect can I say it is love will cover all crimes?
R. Yes, correct.
41. S. (01:42:39) Personally, I feel totally asleep, questions and answers. I'm falling asleep but I'm alone. I look at the friends, maybe we're not built for only Zoom meetings, no one has learned this?
R. I don't understand you, if the Creator gives you such conditions, we need to take these conditions and attain them. There are not states that are more suitable for revelation of the Creator for us as the ones that we are in right now, in each and every moment that we have to say this is the best state to attain the Creator.
S. It is hard to do everything through Zoom, I hear it in the 10 that you need physical contact we're only people, not robots. The problem is, no one has ever learned Kabbalah this way, can you combine virtual and physical as well?
R. The fact you are thinking out loud whatever, the fact that you don't hear me what I'm telling you that's the problem, what the Creator is giving us right now is the best state for me.
S. I hear you.
R. Repeat what I said.
S. What the Creator gives is the best situation come out what the Creator gives us right now is the best for us.
R. No more than that. Why? I don't know. If you ask me on the end of Correction it is giving us this state, I will tell you what I think because without us going through this stage we won't feel what the end of correction is. How can we feel it if we have no vessels? Vessels we can prepare only by going through such forms as we are in right now.
S. Only through such disconnection can we reach the end of correction?
R. I don't understand it, but yes, I guess this is what we need to go through.
42. S. (01:45:44) We heard from you a recommendation to divide the duty into hours, how do we awaken the 10 to the additional duties?
R. You need to consult one another as there are people who are more or less successful in this. By connecting you can get advice from everyone and in the 10 between the tens and will find your way. Even if you won't find a way, with your efforts that you want to connect in order to find ways to be aimed towards the Creator and he will help you and you will get the correct mind and feeling.
Excerpt 60 Reader (01:46:39 - 01:48:15)
43. R. We have to gather and collect impressions and every burdening of the heart he writes in the first paragraph, the hardening of the heart is for man’s sake and by this he will be rewarded with the letters of the Torah, scrutiny feeling understanding like a baby looking, it doesn't understand what he's sees, as if there is nothing before him, but gradually he starts being more focused at something and in that something, the baby understands and feels and reacts, this is the whole matter of acquiring the vessels from the Egyptians that we specifically need by the burdening of the heart we make efforts to be connected above the rejection. This is how we reach the new vessels and in them start to reveal the Creator specifically thanks to the Pharaoh being between us we uplift above and build a place to reveal the Creator.
44. S. (01:49:47) Regarding what you said to learn from other tens, how do you recommend we do this?
R. I don't know it's not our work now I don't know how to do it but in order to wake up and recuperate to get an example so in a bit you can connect to another 10 as well.
S. Share ideas?
R. If you see you can't find the support in your 10 check out other tens.
S. If I see a general slumber, I can point to another 10 and say look what they do?
R. Try doing it gently because I am afraid you can't approach these things correctly.
45. S. (01:50:58) As a result of an activity of dissemination I got the hardening of the heart and I really couldn't hear the lesson, I was thankful about the situation, what do you do with this bigger ego?
R. Repeat the lesson again from beginning to end then you will see you as much as the friends can help you that you are included from them, first you got the hardening of the heart from pharaoh and now through the friends in the 10 you get an impression from the Creator and then you have the two, this and that. You have the coarseness from pharaoh and the spiritual form you receive from the lesson, you have to connect both together.
46. S. (01:52:10) Are the letters of the Torah written on the will to receive? What are the letters of the will to receive written on the common heart in the ten?
R. They are specifically the letters of the Torah is what we write on our hearts when we try to connect together and the will to receive and the will to bestow are aimed towards attaining the Creator and giving him contentment and then our impression from it are called the letters of the Torah.
S. Are the letters of the Torah written on the common heart come to something that is clear as in a composition that is coherent?
R. The main thing is the feeling and afterwards you reach a state called that the heart understands, that after the feeling there is understanding.
47. S. (01:53:48) What is the way to request for this burdening of a heart and the way to overcome it?
R. The correct way to bless is to turn to the friends and with them in connection and thank the Creator for not letting us go and taking us through the darkness and through the light and not letting us go.
S. On an individual level what does it mean for all the individual effort in the 10?
R. The personal states we can't talk about because there are a lot of personal states, they're also not really personal, they are just awakened in each and every one through the connections between us. The connections between us establish a personal feeling of each and every one.
48. S. (01:55:20) It turns out that when we get the hardening of the heart when we arrange the conditions we have now and there is a turning point. Either we give up and we don't know what to do or we see it as an opportunity to acquire the letters of the Torah that motivates us. How do we choose correctly to see this as an opportunity to make the best of it that we have room for work and not despair?
R. You need to feel everything there is in Egypt, everything in the exile, that you are immersed in your will to receive and you can't come out of it, only by turning to the Creator and crying to Him to take us out, to pull us, to help us, that we will get a feeling of evil, death that we are in the will to receive and that is what you need to understand and feel. The Creator is only setting us up with the entrance to the will to receive and the feeling we are in a horrible state but to implement the Exodus is what we need to try is to do it alone, otherwise it won't be our work. We must try and go out alone, meaning between us we establish a desire to turn to the Creator because we have no choice, only He can take us out of the ego, and let Him do it. Egypt is so we, through Pharaoh, will attain the Creator above Pharaoh and He can take advantage of all of these states. He can beat Pharaoh and take us out of the control of evil. This is the result of the Exodus from Egypt.
The big desires to receive from Pharaoh and our big desire to run from him in such a way that we keep going. The main thing is not to be afraid, and really this state, the despair, the weakness, it will be like that between us. But along with that we need to try and hold on between us and the Creator to the extent that we hold on to the connection between us, we can hold on to the Creator. Only in such a way. It can't be that there will be something that we grab the Creator to come with. Only under the condition that we want with all of our forces to be connected and we feel we can be connected. It's the last moment we see we can do it, so we turn to Him and then He saves us, and not before that. It is called to be in the complete prayer.
Excerpt 61 Reader (02:02:31 - 02:04:05)
49. R. How do I manage in maintaining ourselves so that each time, we go time and again into tiredness, despair, hardening of the heart that we will still understand that this is the place of choice? That this situation is the place of choice and we have to again and again show we do want to rise from the dark state. To rise to what? To accept this situation, we agreed to be in it, we only had one thing, to have connection with the Creator and ability to bestow to him from this stage, by connecting in that bad state and wanting to prepare, by this to prepare a place for revelation to bring him contentment. This is called come unto Pharaoh for I have hardened his heart, come to the will to receive, let us reveal it and sort it out correctly in nicely that I have hardened Pharaoh's heart, it is the hearts of the friends because we can connect above the hardening of the hearts as we feel now and above this hardening we can turn to a higher connection, a tighter connection and then we might come to a state where the Creator can be revealed and in this connection to such a power, and intensity that we can see how to bring him contentment and it will be enough to reveal him.
50. S. (02:06:20) How do I understand in the ten that we are in front of a good force or a bad force how to distinguish these two forces?
R. I don't know what the negative force is, I want to accept everything that comes and in the end it all comes from the Creator, even though it seems to me like it's coming from the Pharaoh, from the friends, from myself or for some alien from another planet, it is all coming from the Creator. So, if I accept it this way then I am standing opposite of the Creator, not before Pharaoh or any other force but only opposite of the Creator and this is what I need to constantly see myself as standing in front of him. If I'm in front of Him then what should I do, I should try through all of the influences that He awakens in me, I should try to see Him, that it comes from Him, that there is none else besides Him. By relating to Him in this way I know how to respond. I have to connect as much as possible to the friends, as much as possible I connect together with the friends to the Creator until we reveal him among us. That He is creating the right connection between us that He corrects it and He feels it, that this is all of our work and every moment we have no more to do. In the states between us we can call them Egypt, Exile, Exodus from Egypt, it doesn't matter what we call them.
In the end it is the 10 that has to constantly intensify toward more advanced connection and discover in the connection between us the Creator, the upper Force, which is the only one that dominates. He at one time presents himself as Pharaoh, the Creator or as this villain or as that righteous, it doesn't matter as it is constantly him playing with us in order to bring us on top of all of those changes that he awakens in us in the 10 and in each of us he awakens us for connection on top of all of the changes. Then we come to his stage, we begin to understand his language, what he wants from us, how he addresses us, how he plays on us like a musical instrument where we hear and we begin to feel what he changes in us. How his light spread through the connection is between us and this is Partzuf and accordingly we can respond and react to him speaking with him and in this way, we create a common language, “I for my beloved and my beloved is for me” is how the Creator speaks to us through changing specific desires in the 10 and as we want to connect among us by this we answer him and then as a result of this we get a real song. Where He is to us and we to Him, together we can do this singing, this chanting. We only need to picture it as being in the 10 and not to get away from there, to detect everything that we learned in the seven years of satiation and hunger that this is Pharaoh and the Creator, that this is Moses and that we have to put all of those things together into one system to see how it all falls beautifully and easily into place.
51. S. (02:11:11) The hardening of the heart is a place of work and sometimes it spreads out and takes time and we just live regularly in the 10, how do we take this organized in our heart, like a song?
R. We have to work on this excerpt especially as we are approaching Passover. In a week's time we will have the Passover and this time is very special. Normally, it is a time of confusion and helplessness, now that we are seemingly before the exit that we don't know from where and what it means where the night of the exodus from Egypt when we are in the dark and then together in the connection between us, we will be able to run away from the evil inclination, from Pharaoh. Only through connection and precisely, thanks to the darkness, where we don't know what to do and we can't know what to do because it is darkness, what can anyone ask of us? But this works in our favor so the fact that you will be in these blurred states with a little bit of this and a little bit of that, you do understand or you don't understand, it is good.
S. There is a desire to squeeze the state as much as we can and discover the song of the Creator between us in this fog so how can we do this concentrated?
R. Only through the 10 and I have nothing more to tell you as alone you won't be able to. Especially as we are in the period of the last generation.
S. I can’t do it alone and the friends can’t do it, how do we do this?
R. You will be able to connect among you and demand for the Creator to do it, not that you will do it, you only activate the deficiency as correct as possible and directed correctly as possible the rest of the Creator will do, our homework is called the work of the Creator we only need a deficiency.
S. How to force him to do it?
R. If you raise the deficiency it is certain that he feels it, there is no problem here, just constantly ask, I wish you prayed all day.
S. To ask for a deficiency?
R. As well as a prayer before a prayer, a prayer that you still don't have the right deficiency, that you still don't know and recognize what it is you don't even know how to ask him, ask for anything, really.
52. S. (02:15:08) How while in the darkness can you still develop the feeling towards the words we are learning about right now that can sometimes confuse friends like all of the Passover terms?
R. Write down all of the words that confuse you, Pharaoh, Creator, Moses, the land of Egypt, the land of Israel all of the things like that write them down, next to them right down there translation, interpretation, meaning of what they are do this and you will see it is just like learning a language from another language. In this way you will gradually see that it becomes simple for you and that you don't even notice that when you speak of feral you are speaking about the will to receive, Moses is the point that pulls a person toward the Creator towards bestowal. Try it and little by little we will get used to it, to get through it more quickly, make a list and speak to each other according to the list in the group so that it becomes clear to you. I think that you can also send these lists to Bnei Baruch so they will turn it into a dictionary. We have many people that work and they can help in this to build a glossary, a simple glossary.
53. S. (02:17:32) The state of the Creator with the Pharaoh in the ten in order to be able to awaken everything towards change?
R. This can be toward each one for now but afterwards, we will discover that it pertains to the 10 if we begin to be in contact with the Creator then it can only be through the 10 but in the meantime, the Creator awakens us in this way. The important thing is that we wake up.
54. S. (02:18:24) There is a special impression from this lesson that the whole world Kli is in a process that the Creator is taking us through, the question is how to go with the Creator like Moses is going?
R. Read what is written several times and you will see, I have no answer for what you are asking, how to do it is written in Torah, read it and try to do it.
55. S. (02:19:00) It turns out that Moses is part of the Creator in us?
R. Moses is the part of the Creator in us, yes.
56. S. (02:19:23) In excerpt 60 Rabash gives the example that he got from Baal HaSulam that all of the hardening of the heart are taken as the 0 and only in the final state does he need to gather these zeros and that the Creator as the one and he will get a million or more. Today when you answered and you asked him to repeat that this current state is the best state so how can we appreciate this zero we are in right now?
R. I don't attribute my success to what I feel but according to what I do for the Creator. Then I shipped myself from 1 to 0 and from 0 to 1.
57. S. (02:20:27) So coming out of the heaviness is when Pharaoh said that the Creator is righteous and the others are evil, what is that discernment?
R. It is that Pharaoh shows the connection to the Creator directly that they are connected to each other but that Pharaoh is the posterior side of bestowal and that the Creator is the anterior, the front of the bestowal that it is exactly according to as he says. That the Creator is right and I am wicked, anterior or posterior of the quality of bestowal.
S. Is the effort in knowing that the Creator has burdened the heart is that the important effort to know there is none else besides him?
R. It is important.
58. S. (02:21:46) Why doesn't the Creator show us the truth, then we wouldn't remain in the will to receive for a moment?
R. Because then you won't have a choice, you won't have free choice if you see everything, it's not free choice and you will be not as a human being but as a beast, as an animal without free choice. The whole difference between man and beast is that man has free choice, that he can rise above all of the various states and doubts and do what he chooses to do against nature, against his will but according to an abstract idea. This is called man, Adam, similar to the Creator. How can it be similar, if you've risen above the beast to become similar, which is all of our work and what we have to rise to. It is still not felt in us how we do this but this is the work.
S. Even in one step to get a sign for the first step how to go in a direction?
R. You have a direction, you have the 10 and what the Kabbalists write, do that in the 10 this is the direction. There is no other choice you won't be able to emerge from the degree of the beasts where you are directed from all kinds of natural forces that operate in you if you want to be like a man free like the Creator, above the animated nature, above the nature of reception to come to the point of free choice then you have to be in a 10 and in choosing to bestow upon each other above your ego, rising above your desire is the opportunity to be free.
Excerpt 62 Reader (02:24:20 - 02:26:11)
59. S. Baal HaSulam said there are no letters in spirituality, so how to understand the sentence?
R. No, letters in spirituality means that the letters are feelings, that I feel this or that, like in music, what do I get when I look at these signs and symbols, the thoughts, the musical notes, but when I feel them these are the letters of the work. A desire is a substance of creation so we have to feel these things as happening in our own substance, in our own material, in our desire. Then we will understand each other and understand the Creator when we have a common desire with him. The Creator's desire is to bestow, if we also have a desire to bestow then we can be in the correct connection, I for him and he for me. But if my language is different and we don't understand one another, this is our problem. This is why we need to learn the language of the Creator. The language of the Creator is that I give and that He gives and then in this we can understand one another. What you give to me and what I give to you, that is it. That is the whole of the wisdom of Kabbalah, the code. The language by which to connect to the Creator to such an extent that we understand him more and he understands us and we are in mutuality, which in the end comes to adhesion, then we don't need a language because everything flows completely.
60. S. (02:30:20) What does it mean to run away? On one hand, we have to awaken each and every one, on the other hand, we have to run?
R. If you have the group then you have a key in your hand, if you come to the group you try to connect to them, not mattering how strong, but through the connection between them you can read the Creator, to speak with Him, to ask Him, and to convince Him to do everything with you, it is not a problem as you have everything in your hand. That you have a 10 and in the 10 each one can perform his cry to the Creator to the extent that he connects to the 10. To the extent that he wants to speak to the friends’ hearts, you don't need to speak in your mouth verbally, but to that extent you can connect to the Creator and you have a common language. So, go ahead.
61. S. (02:31:59) What does the Creator need that we ask for?
R. The Creator wants to hear only one thing from us, help us adhere to Him, to be like Him. That's it. look what he is asking, do you want to be in the best possible state, do you want to be higher than all of reality, ask. I have it, just ask.
62. S. (02:32:59) About awakening it is written here that you can't give a fulfillment if there is no need for it and until a person won't ask the Creator won't answer, so we build a prayer every day to incorporate, we sit in the lessons and supposedly we're going through a dormancy how to reach a mutual cry that it will be true that we will wake up?
R. It is not sleep, it is because the vessels are still not discerned, they are unclear so you can't reveal them clearly. This is why it feels as though you are asleep. It is written, it is all normal and fine. it is all on the way just continue. The most important is to help one another and to not forget that the states where you wake up or where you awaken others even for a moment, leaves a great impression on building the right vessels.
63. S. (02:34:24) Is there recognition of evil, is that what brings the work?
R. Yes, the recognition of evil brings us to correction and to the goal that is the whole issue and the whole point of Egypt to know the ego to such an extent that we run away from it under any circumstances.
64. S. (02:35:04) At the end of excerpt 62 it says there are people who do understand the importance and they will take it and this is the reason why you need to ask for the Creator's help, what does this mean?
R. Also, there are such people in each and every one, there is everything as man is a small world, so what you don't understand and don't feel for now you will feel later.