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Morning Lesson July 04, 2024.

Part 1: Baal HaSulam. The Last Generation. Cont. Section 6

Reader: Hello, we are reading from the writings of Baal HaSulam. These are the writings of The Last Generation. We are continuing from Section 6 in the appendices part.

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Reader Section 6: (00:48) Indeed, it is the absolute truth that there cannot be a good and complete society unless its majority is good because the management depicts the quality of society, and the society is elected by the majority. If the majority is bad, the management will necessarily be bad, as well, for the wicked will not place over them rulers of whom they do not approve.

We need not deduce from the modern democracies, as they use various tactics to deceive the constituency. When they grow wiser and understand their cunningness, the majority will certainly elect a management according to their spirit. And their main tactic is that they first sanctify people with good reputations and promote them either as wise or as righteous, and then the masses believe and elect them. But a lie does not persist forever.

M. Laitman: (02:19) I have nothing to add. This is an introduction into the heart of the matter. And we need not, this explains.

Reader Section 6: (02:42) We need not deduce from the modern democracies, as they use various tactics to deceive the constituency. When they grow wiser and understand their cunningness, the majority will certainly elect a management according to their spirit. And their main tactic is that they first sanctify people with good reputations and promote them either as wise or as righteous, and then the masses believe and elect them. But a lie does not persist forever.

This explains Hitlerism. What happened to the Germans is one of nature’s wonders. They were considered among the most civilized nations, and all of a sudden, overnight, they became savages, worse than even the most primitive nations in history.

Moreover, Hitler was elected by the majority’s vote. In light of the above, it is very simple: Indeed, the majority of the public, which is essentially evil, possesses no opinions, even among the most civilized nations. Rather, they deceive the majority of the public. Hence, even though the majority of the public is evil, there can be a good leadership.

However, should an evil person, capable of uncovering the deceit that the managers employ with the famous people they create, come and present the people that should be elected according to their spirit and desire, as did Hitler (and Lenin and Trotsky [Leon Trotsky, 1879-1940, a Jewish Marxist revolutionary]), it is no wonder that they overthrow the fraudulent and elect evil leaders according to their spirit.

Thus, Hitler was indeed elected democratically, and the majority of the public united behind him. Afterward, he subdued and uprooted all the idealistic people and did with nations as he wished, and as the people wished.

This is the whole novelty. Since the dawn of time, it has never happened that the majority of the public governed a state. Either the autocrats did, who, in the end, do have some measure of morality, or the oligarchy, or the deceitful democrats. But a majority of the simple folk ruled only in the days of Hitler, who, in addition, promoted wickedness toward other nations. He elevated public benefit to the level of devotion since he understood the frame of mind of sadists. When given room to discharge their sadism, they will pay for it with their lives.

M. Laitman: Questions. He writes here very briefly, but things are extremely poignant.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (07:10) If the people choose according to what they are, say, a leadership that is also bad, how do they come to a state where they want to replace them?

M. Laitman: Because they don't know they are voting, they are electing evil people. They elect them according to their closeness.

Student: But at some point it flips, that someone who stands at the top is so-called evil?

M. Laitman: Yes, at least according to how we spoke at the beginning but in the end, it's the opposite always. With Lenin, with Trotsky, all those people.

Student: Meaning the people developed to see that they elected someone evil that's not good for them?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So, something changed in their values or it's just a temporary thing? Did they evolve toward better values and afterward wanted better leaders or was it only for that moment where they saw that it's bad?

M. Laitman: In truth, it's without any development. As he refers to the example of Russia, who opened itself up before everyone like that and so I don't see any change.

Student: What's the hope of the people if they each time elect bad leaders or evil leaders and stay in the same attitude? Who needs to be the leader then?

M. Laitman: In Russia there was nothing open to speak against it.

Student: So, if there's already a communist regime in the people, among the nation, they're lost in that respect?

M. Laitman: Yes. They could never replace him. Only with someone who's worse.

Student: So, what's the hope then?

M. Laitman: There's no hope, it's going to collapse by itself.

Student: How?

M. Laitman: The way we see it now, what happened there with respect to the economy, education, everything. Everything is not simply going down, it's falling, it's collapsing. But we see that the rule is held.

Student: You said it will be worse. So, if it falls, they'll choose worse leaders?

M. Laitman: I think if it collapses, if it falls, it won't be able to exist in any shape or form. Right now, it is sustained by the inner forces that exist in the government. But I don't know, today it's a problem. It's a big problem because there's weapons there that can harm everyone. So, there's a start to working on taking down the government, it's extremely dangerous.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (10:49) He says that the democratic regimes are based on falsehood, basically. I wanted to ask then, so the democracies are also destined to collapse and fall?

M. Laitman: Yes. Although democracy is more advanced compared to the rule of bayonets, as you refer to the rule in Russia. Nevertheless, we understand that it's not the final form.

Student: A democracy that collapses, where does it fall to? It falls to another totalitarian regime or communism, or where does it go?

M. Laitman: Democracy will fall into a regime that really depends on where it happens. But I think that it will get to a regime, that's it's hard to say, because everything depends also on the development of technology and that's what's reshaping society today. Americans today care only about securing the production of chips, computer chips, and they think that by that they can bring order to all levels and all professions and arrange society in a way that will be good for everyone. That's the revolution that they expect will come. Because in all other forms they're all based on power or on brute force and you can't succeed in this way. If you're doing something forcefully it never ends well.

Student: In a period of time like we're in today, where we see America declining, Russia collapsing, Europe, it seems like all countries in the world are crumbling and it's just happening before our eyes.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: In such a time, is there a chance to push for the direction of altruistic communism that Baal HaSulam talks about, or it's not yet the time and the system just has to stabilize before? Meaning, that specifically while things are shifting and there's a mess, maybe there's an opportunity for something new?

M. Laitman: I think nevertheless that this chipolization we will get to a state where it will get hold of us and ultimately govern us.

Student: What will govern us?

M. Laitman: It will govern us.

Student: Are we talking about AI that will govern us? Artificial Intelligence, that's what you meant?

M. Laitman: I think not that it will take over, but we, it's something that doesn't exist in human nature. It's something that can answer all of our questions, and it can become the best possible future out of all the opportunities before us. Because humanity can't reach anything more than that. It needs to be subjugated to this ability to build a society that's entirely filled with the chips, if you can say that, where all the culture, and education, and relations between everyone, eventually are run according to the brain of the computer chip.

Student: It's weird, you're saying that ultimately, at the end of the time we have now humanity will take on some governance of AI that is essentially not human. It's not a person, it is something else?

M. Laitman: Yes and it will begin to see that by that it is disappearing as a society of people, and what will come will motivate us to move to a higher stage of development.

Student: So, the next stage of human development will come like some sort of antithesis to the governance of AI that will, I don't know what will happen, but you say that a new form of governance will then arise by people that will advance in the right direction and then we could be ready for the process described here?

M. Laitman: Yes. I think that's how it is. We'll need to move to the rule of computer chips.

Student: Does Baal HaSulam write about it somewhere?

M. Laitman: No, but only in this way can we hope to reach something. A form of governance, of order where the chips will manage most of the society. There are many questions here, nobody knows for certain, but we cannot resist those things. That's what I think.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (18:56) You are relating to the fact that people are using AI more and more, or brain implants?

M. Laitman: All those things, even transplants if needed.

Student: So, your attitude to that is that it's a good thing or bad thing?

M. Laitman: Neither good nor bad, it's a stage of human development.

Student: I'm not talking from a spiritual perspective. You said that without that human beings won't know how to behave. So, is it a way to get people to behave better even towards each other, even towards our environment?

M. Laitman: Yes, just toward everyone, toward themselves, toward nature. We'll all behave according to what we get from the culture of chips in our lives.

Student: And who will govern the chips to tell us what to do?

M. Laitman: They themselves.

Student: It's like in the scary movies we see that the computers take over?

M. Laitman: I don't see this. I don't watch these films. I haven't seen anything like it. But ultimately, what are we doing today? We do what people who took power by power, and we do what they say to us. Is that better?

Student: I'm asking because today there are a few major companies that very much dictate to us what to think and so forth. But, what you're talking about, there are many movies on that, that the AI that we're using as if it gets out of control, out of the control of humans and flips against us in some way?

M. Laitman: I don't know. That's a different level of connection between people, and societies, and nations, I don't know. But I think that ultimately these brains, this chipization will seize power because there's no one greater or more important. And this will be in control.

Student: If I can ask according to the article, he writes that it is absolutely true that there cannot be a good and correct society unless the majority of it is good because that's how they choose the management and so forth. How will the majority become good?

M. Laitman: When people understand that they cannot continue with the evil in them.

Student: Why?

M. Laitman: Because it brings us recognition of evil, of what it brings us to.

Student: It seems like there's more and more evil, but it doesn't lead to recognition of evil. There's always someone to blame, we divide into camps. Like he said about Hitler, that he managed to identify these sadistic tendencies and use nationalism towards other nations. It seems like it's boundless, endless, this ability.

M. Laitman: We need a limit, or a boundary either in good or in bad, or in both directions. Humanity has to evolve. Let's continue and see what he's telling us.

Reader Section 7: (23:04) Egoistic communism cannot prevent wars, since the diligent nations, or the ones rich in raw materials, will not want to share equally with the poor and straggling nations. Hence, once again we must not hope for peace, except by means of the prevention of wars, meaning by preparing arms to guard against the envy and hatred of the poor and straggling nations, just as today.

M. Laitman: Meaning changes will not be in a good direction or toward greater order. Rather, the ego will rule.

Reader Continues: Moreover, there will be even more wars due to changes in ideals, such as Titoism and Zionism.

I have already spoken and wrote about it in 1933, and I have screamed like a crane that today’s wars will destroy the world, but they did not believe. But now, after the atom and hydrogen bombs, I think that everyone will believe me that if we are not saved from wars, it will be the end of the world.

M. Laitman: And again, we’ll start over with societies that existed here thousands of years ago. Like that, this can throw us back thousands of years.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (25:18) We read that Baal HaSulam gives the example like how Germany as the most civilized nation became such a sadistic and that was awakened in them, and Russia, a less developed nation, let's say, that also went into a revolution and that led into a dictatorship. Do you think such a phenomenon can also happen in Israel?

M. Laitman: We're a small nation who depend on everyone in everything. We have nothing except for that piece of land we hold on to against the will of everyone around us. Certainly, in order to exist we must have connection with the upper force because we have no one to rely on and nothing with which to connect. We have no allies, no great people who can strengthen us and protect us. That's why we, as a people, as a nation, depend on everyone and that's been done intentionally so we will understand that only by rising up to the connection between us we can awaken in nature, a special force that did not exist before. Rather it was concealed in nature, and we will bring it to the world, and with this force the world will assume a new form, the form of communism, of connection. And that can happen. That is the purpose of our development, that's the purpose of the Creator in developing the world. Why did He do it in this way specifically? There are many questions, but we'll understand them as we approach the end.

Student: Rav, that chip revolution, chipization, let's say that you talked about, I understand that it can understand all of human needs, let's say, it will track human behavior and provide everything needed. But how will it understand the existence of the upper force that is above it?

M. Laitman: I think that the more people will be connected, if not between them then at least through those chips, they will be closer in their opinions to the Creator. And all of the connection between them will be closer to the nature of the Creator.

Student: How can it, let's say, I don't know exactly what is this chipization, but let's say in principle, how can it understand something above it?

M. Laitman: Not that it's Him, it's people, ultimately, it's not those chips that are governing, that are managing us. They will manage us, but according to the laws of connection, the laws of the society. We've entered a place where we don't understand, and we have no control and or anything like that. It's starting to develop seriously only now. But I said all that because the more I thought about it, I couldn't see any other way to come out of our current state of this egoistic development except through this kind of revolution.

Student: Can I ask more about it, or you don't want to?

M. Laitman: Yes, I just don't know how many answers I have and how correct, how real are my answers. I'm simply, I'm merely someone who's interested.

Student: If we take all human intelligence that has been accumulated, that has been documented, and what does a human want? A human wants to enjoy life, that's clear. So, a human has food, sex, family, money, honor, power, knowledge, etc., all the desires. So, how will that lead the human to an understanding that there is something common, the Creator, which is good, and that it's worthwhile reaching Him?

M. Laitman: It's not a problem to tell people about it and for them to want it on the condition that they feel bad, and they can see that it's good. But the problem is how to reach the good.

Student: Let's say we even take all of your lessons, all the writings of Rabash Baal HaSulam, the ARI, the Zohar, it doesn't matter, put it into this one big program and it will govern our life. What will it lead us to?

M. Laitman: This machine will stop, it won't be able to advance, because it's working according to people's egos, and it can't exist according to the laws of the future society.

Student: That's exactly what I'm asking, so it leads us to a stop?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And that's good because that will be the true recognition of evil?

M. Laitman: There will be recognition of evil. Humanity today is also ready to recognize this evil but has no choice, it must exist. So, in spite of the evil in our lives and not simply from today to tomorrow but even beyond, we are obligated to support our bodies and exist. We exist reluctantly.

Student: We exist reluctantly but from the next pleasure just to escape to something a little bit better. That's basically how we conduct ourselves.

M. Laitman: Yes, like animals.

Student: So, this whole process you're talking about, the chip revolution or whatever, will lead the human to a point where there's nowhere to run? He'll understand there's nowhere to run?

M. Laitman: I don't know, I just know that a special force has awakened in society, in human society, and this force will gradually begin to govern us to a point that we will be totally dependent on it and subjugated to it.

Student: And where will it lead us to, to what direction, what goal?

M. Laitman: I think that here we will enter a conflict with the power of the Creator, where on the one hand we understand that we are obligated, each one of us, to take care of ourselves. Each one must take care of himself and on the other hand, according to this chipization, we'll feel, we'll understand that we must all be interdependent and incorporated with one another.

Student: This conflict will lead to a need to understand the upper force, something different?

M. Laitman: This conflict will bring a necessity for, depending on the upper force, for the intervention of the upper force in our lives and that we'll want, we'll ask for the upper force to dwell in us. These things you know, we spoke about them, we heard them, but I don't want to continue with these fantasies.

Reader Section 8. (35:47) If communism is just toward each nation, it is just toward all the nations. What prerogative and ownership over raw materials in the soil has one nation over others? Who legislated this proprietary law? All the more so when they have acquired it by means of swords and bayonets!

Also, why should one nation exploit another if it is unjust to every individual? In a word: As abolition of property is just for the individual, so it is just for every nation. Only then will there be peace on earth.

Consider this: If proprietary laws and rules of inheritance do not permit possession rights to individuals, why should they permit an entire nation? As just division is applied among individuals within the nation, there should also be internationally just division in raw materials, productive means, and accumulated properties for all the nations equally. There should be no difference between white and black, civilized and primitive, just as among individuals within a single nation. There should be no division whatsoever among individuals, a single nation, or all the nations in the world. While there is any differentiation, wars will not end.

There is no hope of reaching international communism through egoistic communism. Even if America, India, and China should adopt a communist regime, there is still no element that will compel Americans to equalize their standard of living with the savage and primitive Africans and Indians.

All the cures of Marx and Lenin will not help here, inciting the poor class to rob the wealthy class, since the wealthy have already made arms to guard themselves. Thus, if it is to no avail, then the entire egoistic communism was in vain, for it will not prevent wars whatsoever.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (39:08) In the world, there is a phenomenon that physical things become less and less important. Meaning, it's not that someone truly lacks something to eat today or some raw material. There is enough material in the world. Knowledge today becomes something with which you rule. We also see it in the media. Meaning, humanity today the way I see it, and that's the question I wanted to ask, it seems that humanity is more controlled by information and less by physical things like, say, a hundred years ago.

M. Laitman: Let's say so, yes.

Student: The question is, if the next step of mankind will be whether the control of information will become the strong, the big point, and less about whether I have this or that raw materials in my soil. Is that a direction of development? Because that is at least what it seems. It seems like today whoever has more information, more processing power is the one in control, not the one who has more gold, let's say, gold is less relevant. Is the world truly going in this direction? Is that something that we can see humanity developing in this direction more, that knowledge will become important?

M. Laitman: This is correct. Except knowledge, you can't quite sell it like a material object.

Student: It's even more weird because every one of those brains you talked about contains all of the information on the internet, like ChatGPT, for example, has let's say, all of the internet until a month ago, until two months ago and you can take it and copy it and it doesn't cost that much. Every country can have all that information in it. So, it's an interesting phenomenon. This communism is like a communism of information. I always thought about communism of materials, property, but in terms of how you started a lesson.

M. Laitman: Let's see, I don't know I'm not an expert on it, to tie in the current development with the regime. I still can't say how it will unfold, I don't see it.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (42:15) Still, to just complete the picture, how should Kabbalists use this whole chip revolution to advance humanity to spirituality?

M. Laitman: No, Kabbalists hold their own way. Meaning, that we have to reach a state of love thy friend as thyself. This connection is the only thing that will be higher than all those chips and cars or whatever.

Student: It doesn't affect the Kabbalists, this revolution is going to sweep over humanity?

M. Laitman: No, there's no change in that regard.

Student: So other than using it for the sake of dissemination and other tools for development, we don't have anything to be excited about this chip revolution.

M. Laitman: No, we should be excited about being able to change all the minds, all the hearts towards connection.

Student: This chipization, is that the end of human material development?

M. Laitman: It's a critical step. Is it the last one? I think that beyond that it will be some combination between our ability to exist by those chips and to combine that with love thy friend as thyself.

Student: Why is this revolution coming now, approaching humanity now?

M. Laitman: Because we've basically come to the last stages of human development.

Student: Where is the transition from corporeality to spirituality at this point, where do you see it?

M. Laitman: That's within man's heart. To what extent all of this technological development helps people tie their hearts together?

Student: Thank you.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (44:56) I want to follow the friend's question. This technological development, it's clear that it's influencing our actions, but at least that's how I understand it, our correction is a correction in intention, that's what has to be corrected. And, from the correct intention, the correct actions and deeds will follow. The question is, can this technological development influence our intention directly? It doesn't seem logical?

M. Laitman: That's a question.

Student: Thank you.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (45:45) The development of technology is helping us gradually eradicate poverty and hunger. Relatively speaking, there are less and less people hungry, even in Africa. Capitalism is doing it even egotistically. It looks like people will have to work less, we spoke about universal basic income. This technology will take the work, at least the work on necessity, on corporeal necessity, will take it away from people. And Baal HaSulam writes about working according to one's ability. And it looks as if seemingly there will be no need to work for corporeal reasons. At least for things related to our necessity. So, people will have a lot of free time. What will they do? How will it work? He's talking about stragglers and diligence. There will be no need to work for corporeal necessity?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: What will a person do with all this free time?

M. Laitman: Sit around the campfire.

Student: How will that advance humanity toward correction?

M. Laitman: I don't know but it's not so pertinent right now.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (47:45) If we can go back to Hitlerism. Leave the chips behind for a second. It says it's something that never happened before. This form of government. What's so special about what happened there?

M. Laitman: Why get into that?

Student: Nothing to learn from it? Because you keep saying that Nazism can come back. Which is really strange to hear coming from even developed countries. What is that approach?

M. Laitman: Germany was very developed. Hitlerism is hatred to others. That's it.

Student: Only the fact that he was qualified to prove that Democrats are deceiving them. He says that in all other regimes the nation is not in control. In Hitlerism it was the first time the people were in control?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And that proved that they deceived them, and that brought them to that state. My question is, what can create such a delusional state?

M. Laitman: The same thing can happen in any nation. Because what Hitler did was he raised the German ego above all. And made anyone who belongs to it special. And the whole nation went after him. All the German people, that is.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (49:44) We learned that people are engaged in the internality of Torah. When one doesn't engage in the internality of Torah, hatred goes up, antisemitism goes up. How do you see us engaged in the internality of Torah? How would that influence other nations? How would the world look if we would engage in that?

M. Laitman: We don't have such an example, but I don't think it would be really the opposite to today.

Student: There's some connection between what he's writing here and what's happening in the people of Israel, right?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Reader Section 9: (50:55) It is a fact that Israel is hated by all the nations, whether for religious, racial, capitalist, communist, or for cosmopolitan reasons, etc. It is so because hatred precedes all reasons, but each one resolves the loathing according to one’s own psychology. No counsel will help here, except to initiate international, moral, and altruistic communism among all nations.

M. Laitman: Meaning, if we want to exist in a world without antisemitism, then we need to bring this method into practice among all nations.

Reader Continues: (51:33) Israel must be the first among the nations to assume the international, altruistic communism. It must be a model demonstrating the good and beauty of this government because they suffer and will suffer from the tyranny of the nations more than all other nations. They are like the heart that burns before all the other organs. Hence, they are better suited to adopt the proper government first.

Our very existence in the state of Israel is in danger since according to the present economic order, it will take a long time before our economy is stabilized. Very few will be able to endure the experience of the ordeal in our country while they can immigrate to other, wealthy countries. Bit by bit, they will escape the discomfort until too few remain to merit the name State, and they will be swallowed among the Arabs.

But if they accept the international altruistic communist regime, not only will they have the satisfaction of being the avant-garde for the delivery of the world, for which they will know that it is worth the suffering, they will also be able to control their souls and lower the standard of living when needed. They will be able to work hard enough to secure a solid economy for the state.

It is even more so with kibbutzim, whose very existence is built on idealism, which will naturally wane in future generations, as ideals are not hereditary. Undoubtedly, they will be the first to ruin.

M. Laitman: Okay? Or not? Who agrees and who doesn't?

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (54:17) The state he's describing, is this in the future? Or is this what happened a hundred years ago when he thought it would happen? I didn’t quite understand about Israel?

M. Laitman: About Israel, it's a state that is being stretched.

Student: What do you mean, stretched?

M. Laitman: It exists, but it doesn't exist.

Student: You see in the past 75 years the amount of people in Israel has only gone up, but it hasn't shrunk. And indeed, the Kibbutzim disappeared as he wrote here. That's why I'm asking this paragraph. We have to think that it will happen? Or, at this point in our development, you've already been through and now we're looking at the next step?

M. Laitman: I think we went through it, and the next step is the connection that still doesn't arrive.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (55:25) He mentioned here a few times that communism has to be international. On the other hand, he says that Israel has to set an example for this thing. Now in today's reality, if Israel goes in the direction of international relations, they will eat us from within and from without. Meaning, we have to maintain the character of the country before this thing comes to be. So how can we reconcile this? Because it appears that this conflicts with the other. We cannot sustain the Israeli nation unless you're separate. On the other hand, Baal HaSulam writes that we need to reach a state of international communism.

M. Laitman: Well, let's say I don't know. That's what he wrote.

Student: He also writes here before that Zionism and Titoism they bring about wars. The question is, should the people of Israel maintain their character or move toward a cosmopolitan character to be more open to everyone, to flow with everyone in order to prevent the wars?

M. Laitman: Look, that's not so important. What's important for him is to characterize the big things, the major things, things that determine our future.

Reader Section 10: (57:23) Religion is the only sound basis to raise the moral level of society until each person works according to his ability and receives according to his needs.

If you lived on an island of savages, whose lives you could not save, preventing them from ferociously exterminating themselves, except by means of religion, would you then doubt ordering their lives with a religion that would suffice to save this nation from eradication from the world?

With respect to altruistic communism, everyone is savage. There is no ploy to impose such a regime on the world, except by means of religion, for religious compulsion becomes agreeable in the progeny, as we have seen happen in nations that have accepted religion by force and coercion.

However, in coercion through education and public opinion, which is not hereditary in the progeny, it only diminishes in time. Hence, would you say that it is better that the entire world destroys each other than to impose on them a certain cause to lead them to life and happiness? It is hard to believe that any sane person would hesitate here.

It is impossible to have a stable democratic society except by means of a society whose majority is good and honest, since society is led by the majority, for better or for worse. Hence, the altruistic communist regime must not be established unless the majority of the public is ready to commit to it for generations. That can only be secured through religion because the nature of religion is that even though it begins coercively, it ends voluntarily.

Religion and idealism complement each other. Where the ideal cannot be in the majority, religion forcefully rules the primitive majority, incapable of ideals due to its possessiveness and its desire to work less than his friend and receive more.

It is impossible to erect the altruistic communism before the egoistic communism expands. However, now that a third of the world has assumed the egoistic communism, the power of religion can be used to establish altruistic communism.

Humankind will not suffice with dry decrees without accompanying them with reasonable explanations that support and strengthen these conducts, meaning a philosophic method. In that regard, there is already an entire philosophy concerning the will to bestow, which is the altruistic communism, sufficient to contemplate for one’s entire life, and thus strengthen oneself through acts of bestowal.

M. Laitman: Okay, these are things that for now are above us. We still don't understand the need for them. Questions?

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:02:14) He says here that religion and ideal complement each other. What does he mean?

M. Laitman: That, what the socialists and communists say and what the people feel, it's getting closer, and one can dress into the other. Again, I am not certain that we can take something here as a fact that we can work according to. No, Rabash too would not explain that, because it's his opinions that are still insufficient for us to take them, to practice them in life.

Student: Just understand, he says that only religious compulsion and coercion can make it stick. But can we accept bestowal and connection coercively? Because we always say that it's only through consciousness or awareness and desire. You can't do it otherwise?

M. Laitman: No, but to start moving is worthwhile, it’s possible.

Student: Will you educate people for connection and love coercively and then they will accept it?

M. Laitman: Accept and do it willingly.

Student: And when he says that there cannot be altruistic communism before there's egoistic communism, can we understand that it's from Lo Lishma to Lishma?

M. Laitman: Let's say.

Student: I mean, first the person sees some benefit from the connection and then he understands there's benefit to the Creator?

M. Laitman: Yes, it's like you have a little child and you have to teach him something, so you attract him through candy or something else. And later he understands and gets used to it and already wants it. Okay, we are moving to the next part.

Reader: We'll go to the next part and before that, a song.

Song: (01:04:04)

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