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Lesson 416 окт 2023

Lesson on the topic of "Fighting the evil inclination"

Lesson 4|16 окт 2023
To all the lessons of the collection: Fighting the evil inclination

Morning Lesson October 16, 2023

Transcription is made from simultaneous translation, which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio

Part 2:

Fighting the Evil Inclination - Selected Excerpts from the sources. #9

Reading Excerpt #9. (00:18) “Our sages said..” twice

1. S. (03:29) It is written here, if a person does not start the war then he does not receive the help from the Creator. How do we start the work correctly in order to receive help from the Creator?

R. We learned that from the articles and the excerpts, we need to understand that the help from the Creator comes as the right response for what we ask for, if we're asking correctly for something correct so the Creator helps us because why did He even need to awaken us, only for us to ask Him for help and He will be able to give it.

S. In other words to start the war this is the request to build the request?

R. First of all to connect between us, to discern what is for or against our advancement towards purpose of creation, and to take a few steps and see and then where we are successful and not successful, and then ask and demand the help and after that you can already see whether we're getting help or not and how, that's important.

S. We are working throughout the day and we have a certain framework, calls, meetings, lessons, and we don't pass such an analysis between us. We read articles, we write prayers but we don't do such analysis like you're saying. Do we need to have such a war, such a scrutiny of what we're lacking like you said right now? The things you listed.

R. Yes, of course, yes.

2. S. (05:53) In this war when I use the prayer and when we pray and see an answer from the Creator like it said in the previous article this is faith, we need to apply faith above reason, then in such a state what do I need to do, what does the Creator expect of me?

R. What to expect, expect an answer from the Creator, understand that the lack of an answer that's also an answer and then scrutinize it.

S. We need to scrutinize it with the friends continuing to pray, hoping something will change?

R. No, not to expect just like that, be more active, we're going to go through it.

3. S. (06:52) What does it mean that a person will always vex the good evil inclination over the evil inclination?

R. That he constantly has to think of how he's at war with his evil inclination and how he needs to put himself in all his qualities in order to feel that he's before the evil inclination and then he will have the ability to turn to the Creator and ask for His help.

Reading Excerpt #10 (07:54) "A person must begin the war so as to have Kelim.." (twice)

4. S. (10:16) You said a bit but it's still not felt. What does it mean that his person is at war? How does a person feel that he's at war?

R. That he has complaints to the Creator for help.

S. If he doesn't have complaints it's not a good state?

R. If he doesn't have a deficiency he's not at war. If everything's okay or he doesn't feel that it depends on the Creator or he doesn't understand that he is at war or against who is he at battle with, but first he has to reveal that he is in a war against or pro.

S. If he feels that he doesn't have a deficiency he starts to fight to have it or he feels that he doesn't feel as a deficiency and he doesn't know how to obtain it, he has complaints but he also doesn’t have a deficiency. There's lots of states like these, what is the war here?

R. The war is for coming closer to the friends and incorporating in their deficiency.

S. If I'm sitting in the lesson here does that mean that I'm at war? Close to the friends in a certain form?

R. Could be that he's sitting and sleeping, it doesn't mean anything yet, just sitting.

S. What awakens a person to war?

R. He himself or society.

5. S. (12:14) When we're in the middle of the war, and a person wants for everything to end and it chokes us, how can we overcome this destructive force with a constructive force?

R. Only together, if we talk about it and want to help, so a man will help his friend, we can lift up everyone from the garbage, from the mud, from the fall.

6. S. (13:06) What are the conditions, the basic ones, to succeed in a common prayer?

R. That will be together in a common prayer towards our common Creator, and we won't leave that prayer until we get an answer.

S. Can we see an example of a common prayer by the Creator giving, God forbid, not a simple state to a friend and then everyone is in that same state and also emotionally we want for that state to improve? Is that an example of a prayer?

R. How would you do it?

S. It's not simple to do it, we need to speak in the ten, we need to first of all reach some understanding of what we want to change?

R. So try it. You have more of a base, more flesh in there and where to raise your complaint for the Creator.

S. Is it possible to say that it divides into two that first of all we need to agree between us on that same point of what we're lacking?

R. Yes.

S. Secondly we needed to maintain something emotional and a demand for it?

R. Right, correct, correct.

7. S. (14:42) Are the corrections we are going through as individual or as a ten or do they depend on the maturity of the connections between us?

R. No, it all depends on the actions that we do. We are working in this circle of actions.

8. S. (15:30) I heard that you say that war is basically over the closeness between us the connection between us but how is the prayer for connection and all the actions we need to do, how does it take us out of the ego?

R. The Creator takes us out of the ego. We just have to see as much as we are in Him and what we have in us and recognition of evil is enough for us that from there the Creator will already save us.

S. We need to ask in the prayers for the connection and for the Creator to take us out of the ego? We feel a lot of connection but for a different thing?

R. It could be that it's another word but it's the same thing.

S. If for example, there's this lack of security in the country and we're attached to the ten we're asking for the nation of Israel etc., how does it take us out of the ego or do we need to add to it in an artificial way?

R. We, yes, we need to come out of the ego, and I don't even know what to say, it's so clear. That it's so clear that it's all our ego.

S. Correct but it's exactly the question. I really feel that the prayers for the connection are much stronger now, but I'm asking how do we direct this thing so we will come out of the ego and not just…..?

R. I don't understand your question.

S. Our goal is to come out of ego, correct. Now when we're praying from a certain distress or great sorrow we're asking for the connection, for the Creator through us to build a vessel and He will do all kinds of, sorts of good corrections for the nation, for the world, but what is this exit from the ego, how do we not miss?

R. I don't understand what the Creator is shining on us a bit more and we can uplift above our ego.

S. Shines as a result of the prayer for connection?

R. Yes, yes.

S. It''s enough for Him?

R. Of course it's enough, a prayer for connection, what could be more?

S. I don't know there's a lot of forms of connection. Are we certain that our prayer for connection is directed truly for the spiritual development, out of the ego?

R. We will come closer and see that it's that way. There's nothing more either they're above the ego or below the ego.

S. For the moment simply continue to pray for connection?

R. Yes.

9. S. (19:07) Why not turn to the side of merit instead of the war against the ego and ask the Creator for the side of merit for that force? When I ask the Creator for help to the side of merit?

R. Because that is what we feel, that's what's disturbing us. That is what is in the way.

S. Why don't we ask for the positive side, the side of merit, instead of war against the ego, the left line?

R. For example?

S. We can ask for The Good That Does Good to come closer to the Creator and not fight against the evil of inclination or fight against our ego.

R. First of all, we feel damage from our evil inclination. It is what stops us, it gives us or doesn't let us uplift above our state.

S. Why don't we ask strength to overcome and go to the positive side, to the side of merit instead of tiring us to fight the evil inclination?

R. It's the same thing because the evil inclination constantly jumps on us, so what can you do? What, constantly run away from it? What can you do against your evil inclination, it is in your heart and all your organs and all the areas in you and it bothers you from thinking and wanting the correct things to come closer to the Creator.

S. Okay, why don't we ask to come closer to the Creator?

R. You can ask to be closer to the Creator but it's not a complete prayer. It's not a complete prayer. It's not a pro or con, it's just to be closer, except for that it's close to the evil inclination because He himself wants to receive from the Creator to enjoy Him.

10. S. (23:49) I want to see everything through my special glasses called the ten, how to put on those glasses, what I am looking at the world?

R. You need to come closer to your ten incorporate in them and as much as possible to be in them and think like them and feel like them and from them, then you turn to the Creator and ask for the entire ten. That is actually our work.

11. S. (25:18) What is the difference between vessels and deficiency?

R. Vessel is just a desire, and the thing is that it feels itself has a deficiency empty that wants to fill itself that wants to complete itself.

S. What is a deficiency that we shouldn’t bring into the ten, can we clarify?

R. Except for the deficiency for the purpose of creation, to adhesion between us and adhering to the Creator we have nothing else to bring. All other deficiencies aren't good. That we have to correct them and those deficiencies for the ten for the connection between us they are the only good deficiencies because through them we can rise to the purpose of creation

S. It's not clear what about the disturbance of a friend in which he cannot justify the Creator is that a deficiency for the ten?

R. Yes.

12. S. (26:57) When a person starts his spiritual work all sorts of diverse disturbances start. It's truly a war that takes place but in a certain stage at least this is how I feel. When a person is ready to be “like a donkey to the load,” and after this whole war a person is ready to do what the Creator demands. Is it really not so or when you are ready to be a “donkey to the load,” does there still need to be a war?

R. I don't understand. Without the beginning.

S. If a person has already reached a certain rightness and he's ready to be a donkey and carry out what the Creator demands must there still be a war or can he simply be like a working donkey and carry out what the Creator demands?

R. There is such a state but that doesn't mean that he's ready for the work, he just got tired and he falls. As it's written, “a donkey for the load.”

13. S. (28:31) I want to add to the friend, the evil inclination loves to be close to the Creator and because of that we don't need to ask for closeness to the Creator? What do we need to ask for, for work? What is the right work?

R. To be under the influence of the Creator.

S. It is to be close to Him?

R. Yes.

S. But it's, you said, “it's not good,” you said the evil inclination wants to be close to the Creator if a person demands that?

R. On behalf of the evil inclination. I don't want to be next to the Creator on behalf of the evil inclination because the evil inclination will be happy and will want to receive from Him more and more.

14. S. (29:34) When we connect in the ten with the friends can we receive the reforming light?

R. Again?

S. When we connect to the friends, can we receive the reforming light?

R. Of course just from our connection we have to turn to the Creator and ask.

15. S. (30:37) To defeat the evil inclination is to invert it into the Creator like the attitude to Him?

R. Yes.

S. How does a request need to be for that, what do we need to ask for?

R. What do we need to ask for, for what?

S. If we want to invert the evil inclination to be with the Creator but what needs to be the request in ten?

R. That the Creator will help us do that, I don't need to know how He's doing it. I want to ask only one thing, what would I want Him to do upon me.

S. That is the right request for Him to invert this outlook for us?

R. Yes.

16. S. (31:52) In the war with the evil inclination, how do I convince myself that the first thing that I need to do is to ask for my friends and not for myself?

R. You need to reach a state that you first have to ask for the others. Then for yourself. So what's the question?

S. I say there's an instinct, a person wastes time, he thinks first I'm going to for myself and then I'm going to think about my friends?

R. No, that's still called that you aren't worthy for the prayer.

S. It is a very strong instinct. How do we defeat it?

R. Gradually it will change if you first of all think of the Creator and everywhere so it will be easier to pray for the friends before you pray for yourself. Clear?

17. S. (33:09) Sometimes I don't feel like the evil is inside of me so I have no reason to fight it. How can I feel that I'm responsible for everything that's happening?

R. The more I come closer to the friends, the more I feel that all the evil is in me, and through them I only can get the upper Light.

18. S. (34:00) The state to come out to the war, is that the state of being a partner to the Creator and to hold them by the hand?

R. Yes, yes, that is correct.

S. With faith above reason?

R. Yes.

19. S. (34:38) I wanted to clarify a bit more, what does it mean to vex the evil inclination over the good one and how do we need to do it in the ten and also personally?

R. That I look at reality in a way that there's bestowal and reception, the good inclination the evil inclination. Those two parts, those halves and I'm in the middle between them. How I can tell the difference between them and how I ascribe myself only to one half and fight against the other one. That's what we have to see.

S. There are these calculations there?

R. Yes, who says there's no calculation, there's always calculation.

20. S. (36:13) Why is the Creator allowing us, for us to have the responsibility for us to cope with the evil inclination? What is the role of this coping with the evil inclination between the ten and the Creator?

R. He wants us to reach His degree and then we can understand the entire system of creation.

21. S. (37:00) From the previous text that we read, after we will win over the evil inclination do we have ascents and descents?

R. If we are remaining with the evil inclination we will have ascents and descents.

22. S. (37:43) How's it possible to ask for the friends if we feel for certain that all the evil’s only in me?

R. Even if there is no evil but your evil affects them and you have to pray for that.

23. S. (38:23) Why is there no equivalence of form with the Creator when we're working for the sake of creation since the Creator also does everything for the sake of creation, why is there no equivalence of form there?

R. Where are you working for the created beings?

S. The friends are working for each other, sacrificing, why is that not considered bestowal?

R. It is bestowed but it's not enough in order to correct us.

S. What are we lacking?

R. The Creator.

24. S. (39:18) How in a war against, with the evil inclination do we turn from the evil inclination to the holy strength and how do we use his own strength against Him?

R. We will learn that, for now only if we connect the good in the bad, will we be able to turn all the evil into the good.

25. S. (40:05) From the beginning our nature is evil, how can a person raise a correct prayer from the deepest part of his heart?

R. As much as we are together it only depends on the connection between us.

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