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Daily Lesson (Morning) August 9, 2024

Part 2: Memorial Day of the ARI - Selected excerpts from the sources

Reader: We are studying selected excerpts from a document on the Memorial Day of the ARI. You can ask questions live through the system or here, raise your hands, and excerpt number one is from Baal HaSulam's Introduction to the Book, Panim Meirot uMasbirot.

Reading: (00:34) Excerpt 1. Baal HaSulam, "Introduction to the Book Panim Meirot uMasbirot,",No. 8

Come and see how grateful we should be to our teachers, who impart us their sacred lights and dedicate their souls to do good to our souls. They stand in the middle between the path of harsh torments and the path of repentance. They save us from the netherworld, which is harder than death, and accustom us to reach the heavenly pleasures, the sublime gentleness and the pleasantness that is our share, ready and waiting for us from the very beginning, as we have said above. Each of them operates in his generation, according to the power of the light of his teaching and sanctity.

Our sages have already said, “You have not a generation without such as Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.” Indeed, that Godly man, Rav [teacher/great one] Isaac Luria [the ARI], troubled and provided us the fullest measure. He did wondrously more than his predecessors, and if I had a tongue that praises, I would praise that day when his wisdom appeared almost as the day when the Torah was given to Israel.

Reader: Excerpt No. 2, also from "Introduction to the Book Panim Meirot uMasbirot"

Reading: (02:21) Excerpt 2. Baal HaSulam, "Introduction to the Book Panim Meirot uMasbirot", No. 8

There are not enough words to measure his holy work in our favor. The doors of attainment were locked and bolted, and he came and opened them for us. […] You find a thirty-eight-year-old who subdued with his wisdom all his predecessors through the Ge'onim [pl. for genius] and through all times. All the elders of the land, the gallant shepherds, friends and disciples of the Godly sage, the RAMAK, stood before him as disciples before the Rav.

All the sages of the generations following them to this day, none missing, have abandoned all the books and compositions that precede him: the Kabbalah of the RAMAK, the Kabbalah of the Rishonim [first], and the Kabbalah of the Ge'onim, blessed be the memory of them all. They have attached their spiritual life entirely and solely to his Holy Wisdom.

Reading: (03:46) Excerpt 3. The RAMAK about the ARI

Know that there is one man who is sitting here, who will rise after me and enlighten the eyes of the generation in the wisdom of Kabbalah. For in my days, the channels were concealed, and in his days, the channels will be revealed. Know that he is a great man, a spark of the RASHBI (Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai).

Reader: (04:21) Let's read again.

Know that there is one man who is sitting here, who will rise after me and enlighten the eyes of the generation in the wisdom of Kabbalah. For in my days, the channels were concealed, and in his days, the channels will be revealed. Know that he is a great man, a spark of the RASHBI (Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai).

Reading: (04:52) Excerpt 4. Sefer Habrit HaShalem, Part 2, Article No. 12, Chapter 5

Know for certain that not as in the early generations and the first days that were in the fifth millennium, since in those days, the gates of this wisdom were closed and locked. For this reason, there were only few Kabbalists. It is not so in this sixth millennium, when the gates of light have been opened, the gates of mercy. Now it is of great contentment to the Creator to make known the glory of His kingdom forever and ever, especially now that all the holy writings of the ARI have been printed. He had opened for us the gates of light that had been closed and sealed by a thousand locks since days of old, and all his words are the words of the living God from the mouth of Elijah the prophet, and by his permission he revealed what he had revealed. Now there is no obstacle or danger, just as in the revealed.

Reading: (06:22) Excerpt 5, Baal HaSulam, Letter No. 38

I heard from the ADMOR of Kalshin. In earlier times, one had to first obtain all seven external teachings, called “the seven maidens that serve the king’s daughter,” as well as terrible mortification. And yet, not many gained favor in the eyes of the Creator. But since we have been rewarded with the teachings of the ARI and the work-ways of the Baal Shem Tov, it is truly possible for anyone, and the above preparations are no longer necessary.

Reading: (07:24) Excerpt 5, Baal HaSulam, Letter No. 38

I heard from the ADMOR of Kalshin. In earlier times, one had to first obtain all seven external teachings, called “the seven maidens that serve the king’s daughter,” as well as terrible mortification. And yet, not many gained favor in the eyes of the Creator. But since we have been rewarded with the teachings of the ARI and the work-ways of the Baal Shem Tov, it is truly possible for anyone, and the above preparations are no longer necessary.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (08:12) We learned that in the first generations, they had a smaller Aviut, like our ancestors.

M. Laitman: Depends on whom.

Student: Well, generally the Aviut grows, no?

M. Laitman: Generally so, yes.

Student: Why, in the beginning, did they need terrible mortifications and to study external teachings to reach attainment?

M. Laitman: That was the condition.

Student: But if they had smaller coarseness, why?

M. Laitman: I can't tell you, I'm not of those times, I wasn't there, and I don't want to tell you something that comes just from myself. There were many more sources, that's how the correction should have happened with the general souls.

Student: How to understand what he writes here, that the ARI really makes a change in the spiritual system, how to understand this?

M. Laitman: We see that even in the sciences, which, of course, we separate from the wisdom of Kabbalah. There comes a time, and then another time, where people come who have a new approach. They use new instruments and tools in mathematics, microscopes, telescopes, and so on, each generation and its teachers and students.

Student: He also describes here how the RAMAK, the greatest Kabbalist, everyone studied from him, and he was already elderly. Even he, when the ARI came, half his age, he subdued himself to him. So they saw something, yes?

M. Laitman: Look, with each generation, how would you today accept someone who came here and taught you only according to the words of the actual Torah, the Old Testament, how would you accept that? Each generation has its teachers, so there's a method that's a custom, that's good for the souls that come on every single different generation. There's a new approach, a new foundation there.

Student: The ARI, when you read his writings, he’s a person who is in the upper worlds and guides you as if he describes his house, moving from one room to another.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: On the other hand, like in the letter we read, he says specifically, the true righteous or teachers are stutterers, like the example of Amos, he gave here. Those are not smooth, fluent talkers.

M. Laitman: They're not fluent with the modern language of the times. That's always how it is.

Student: So when this way, when that way because the ARI opened things in a language that everyone was inspired from?

M. Laitman: Not all of them, some of them didn't even know where he took all that from. Where is it written, what's the origin of it? No, it's because some few of the greatest of that generation agreed with him and talked about him. Then the others accepted the ARI as someone who's great. But actually, there's no generation in which a person who comes with such innovations is accepted with a new Torah, new teaching. Even today, you have some people who say, no, we don't accept the ARI. We don't recognize him, that's it.

Student: There are also those who study?

M. Laitman: What's his name? You mean RAMAK?

Student: No, not RAMAK. Berg, maybe?

M. Laitman: No, not RAMAK and not Berg. Those who the people accept, never mind, never mind, forget about it. I'll remember later.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (13:40) I want to continue what you said, that you teach us, not just according to the Torah, we go and expand things beyond that. He says that in his time, all the channels were blocked, and today we are unlocking channels. So what does it mean to reveal the channels?

M. Laitman: More approaches by which to understand the Torah.

Student: So, how does it promise us that we can open these channels?

M. Laitman: We're not succeeding, yet.

Student: Not yet, we?

M. Laitman: How do you open them?

Student: In dissemination, can't we open what we do in dissemination to pass it onwards?

M. Laitman: Those channels, yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (14:42) I think all the friends who came from the world Kli came with the tendency of the heart, not the intellect. Without your explanations, how would we understand Rabash or Baal HaSulam or any of that? So what is the study, if not the yearning to feel in the heart, which is the fulfillment from the study?

M. Laitman: No, that's the outcome of proper study and the proper environment which is formed, established like that within the person, and then the person attains. Other than that, there's daily work to be done.

Student: So, the work is in finding the ego, what work do we have?

M. Laitman: The enormity of the ego, yes.

Student: So, the study of today, the point of the heart awakens the person, doesn't give him anything but that and puts him in a path where he has to learn how to realize the advice of the Kabbalists. The love and annulment and reach a prayer that it will happen.

M. Laitman: Yes, that's the study.

Student: Yes, well in our time.

M. Laitman: It's not about our times, our generation, it was always that way, but they were different souls, more refined.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (16:19) To strengthen in faith and understand the Torah, I wanted to ask you, Rav. In the prayer of Shema Yisrael, he says, and you spoke to your sons and memorized and taught to your sons and here King David says, you've told your sons and there will come peace to Israel. What does it mean to give birth to a son, in the work?

M. Laitman: That's an understanding, an understanding and connection to the Creator. That’s the meaning of giving birth to a son.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (17:10) He writes, in the first days, before attaining the Creator, one would have to learn all the seven external wisdoms that are considered the handmaids to the king, and terrible, terrible mortification. What did the ARI do that cancelled the need for that?

M. Laitman: He opened the conduits of abundance, and from then you don't need mortifications, and such harsh means. Rather it’s enough for a person to study in his available time and in his group, connection with friends, that’s what advances him.

Student: Was there a fundamental change in the study method, study manner?

M. Laitman: The study itself became different, more purposeful and the purpose was more aimed.

Student: What quality was in him that allowed him to do it?

M. Laitman: There were different times and different souls.

Student: So, it's not something in him, it’s the times that have changed. You said, it's always the same souls.

M. Laitman: No, there are incarnations in them.

Reading: (18:56) Excerpt 6. Rav Chaim Vital, Pri Etz Chaim, Gate “Conducts of Learning,” Chapter 1

My teacher would say that the heart of the intention of reading in the Torah depends on aiming to connect one’s heart to its root through the Torah in order to complete the upper tree and complete the upper Adam [man] and correct him, for this is the whole purpose of man’s creation and the purpose of his engagement in the Torah.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (19:38) I heard in the lesson twice, today, that there are reincarnations and that we take things from previous incarnations. What value does knowing that have for us?

M. Laitman: We hear there's the development of the generations, so where does it come from? From the previous generations, their previous incarnations. All together from those stages that we go through, whether in desire or above the desire or below desire in the previous generations.

Student: What do we attain from previous generations?

M. Laitman: What do we attain from previous generations? None of us attains his incarnation, yet.

Student: What are the natural inclinations of each one in the study? There are those who are inclined at?

M. Laitman: I would say that's more corporeal, more of a corporeal tendency.

Student: We, today, our method of study, we pretty much do not read the ARI. We read a little bit of the Zohar and so on, we more study Baal HaSulam, Rabash and we engage all the time in connection between us.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Meaning that's the need we have now?

M. Laitman: Correct.

Student: Meaning previous generations maybe learned more of the ARI and before the ARI the Zohar, I don't know what.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So, what value is there in that to the collective soul that we absorbed that, that we went through that?

M. Laitman: I don't have enough of an understanding to calculate the general calculation.

Student: Okay, so I'll ask differently: Here in the writings of the ARI, it says, they would always caution to engage in love of others and also Baal HaSulam would always say, leave your imaginary engagements in order to engage in the love of friends. That's something that hasn't changed throughout the generations.

M. Laitman: That will not change, ever.

Student: That is the root of the method, since the times of Abraham?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So, what has changed?

M. Laitman: How do we attain advancement in that? That each generation has those who demand, it has certain souls.

Student: Meaning, that same revelation of the Creator and love between us at the time Moses needed the Torah or at the time of the ARI, you needed the writings of the ARI, right? But it's that same seed of work that never changes?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Women Rehovot): (22:58) What was special about the ARI that was different from the rest of the Kabbalists?

M. Laitman: The root of his soul.

Student: What is the main difference between the ARI and Baal HaSulam in their approaches to the study?

M. Laitman: Difference, I don't think there's a difference.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (23:21) What does it mean that there were closed pipes and now they are opened?

M. Laitman: It's a matter of the revelation of the wisdom to many people, to those who study.

Student: What opens these pipes of wisdom?

M. Laitman: The demand that comes from the heart of those who engage in Torah in a specific way.

Student: What is the meaning of the connection with Rav in spirituality?

M. Laitman: That we need to hear what the Rav teaches and to try to incorporate with it.

Student: I feel that every Kabbalist teaches based on the time that they live in. Could we say that Baal HaSulam, Rabash, and you in that way in our lives, in our hearts in our lives?

M. Laitman: I think somewhat, yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (24:34) You said that there are no new souls. So what changes in us from generation to generation, that we are so far from attainment?

M. Laitman: The same souls that were in our world returned and clothe us, and we, in our generation, in our vessels, try to integrate from them and to include them together.

Student: What is the role of our generation?

M. Laitman: The role of our generation is to connect as many of the souls as much as possible in our efforts and lead them to the actual peak of connection, which is the Gmar Tikkun, the end of correction.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (25:34) The mental and emotional perception of a person doesn't always absorb the privilege that one has to be next to a Kabbalist and studying from him.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Say, I think about the students of the ARI, that he departed from them. How do we make a correct calculation after the passing of a Kabbalist, that the person truly made use of the time that he had next to the Kabbalist?

M. Laitman: Only by connecting between you even more and appealing to the Creator.

Student: Let's say, we take the example of the ARI’s students. Could there be states, where it caused them great sorrow?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: How in such a state, when a person is sorry that he didn't make use of the opportunity he had next to the Kabbalist. To do everything that he could possibly do with his forces to absorb his instruction, now the Kabbalist departs from him. How does the person live after that?

M. Laitman: He continues to live, he has a goal, the Creator demands of him to continue. And to draw after him additional souls, and in this way try to reach the purpose of life.

Student: And what did he see that he missed out on?

M. Laitman: He missed, everyday, we miss something.

Student: How does he not sit and eat his own flesh, like a fool?

M. Laitman: No, no, no, we don't need to come to that. Our work is actually what attracts us forward, draws us forward towards the purpose of life. To sit and cry, what you did yesterday and the day before, and oh boy and… it’s truly not suitable to a servant of the Creator. Altogether, the Creator arranged for you all these times and situations so try to be an Adam.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (28:40) Continuing the friend on the passing of the ARI, he departed a long time ago because there were no complete righteous among his students. According to the intellect, according to logic, the Kabbalist needs to stay until one of his students reaches attainment, so, why did he depart?

M. Laitman: You don't understand that. He didn't find amongst his students, one that could reach the attainment, like he thinks.

Student: That's the negligence of the students?

M. Laitman: Yes and no, it's a matter of the times.

Student: I want to take the analogy to us: Do we have negligence in that no one has yet reached attainment out of all of us?

M. Laitman: First of all, there are some that are somewhat in it, although it's initial stages. But there's a chance that they will.

Student: So, the main work is to accelerate time as long as the teacher is with us?

M. Laitman: Yes, each and everyone; and to pray for everyone.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (30:08) Can you say that the pipe is the Ten?

M. Laitman: There are places where you can understand it like that. And there are places where you can understand that the pipe is something a person himself builds.

Student: An unblocked pipe, is that a Ten, is that a Ten that knows how to work with opposite forces with each other?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (31:10) He writes that in every single generation, there is no such thing as not having Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Can we dig into what he's saying? It's not exactly Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, what does it mean?

M. Laitman: That's how it's written.

Student: What's its meaning?

M. Laitman: I don't know.

Student: Well, it's not from someone who's in attainment?

M. Laitman: No, meaning that there's no generation that there isn't in it an Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, meaning that those souls appear in every single generation. But how to be connected to them, in three lines, I don't know.

Student: It could even be you. Each and every generation, it says, that there's someone.

M. Laitman: I don't understand that degree before me.

Student: What does that mean, it means the quality of bestowal. What's there to understand here?

M. Laitman: Okay, now I know.

Student: No, you know. You just don't want to say. Let's put it this way, I'll ask you a different question: When a Kabbalist teaches his students that he’s not fake, is that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? Does that mean that those qualities dwell in that teacher?

M. Laitman: Not in everyone and not always.

Student: I didn't speak about everyone, I spoke about you.

M. Laitman: What do you want from me?

Student: You're teaching me, I rely on you, that's the question that's being asked.

M. Laitman: I'm at the height of Moses.

Student: Excellent, it's good for us to know who our teacher is. Truly, in every single generation, there's a certain guide at a certain level, which is in attainment.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (33:22) What is the root of the soul?

M. Laitman: The root of the soul is the root of the soul, it's those conditions, fundamental qualities that are revealed from the force of the soul that begins to be clarified.

Student: It starts becoming clarified, does that mean, we attain it, that's the state? I attain the root of the soul?

M. Laitman: That's in the end.

Student: He writes that each one needs to attain the roots of their soul.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: He writes in Excerpt No. 6, to connect one's heart to its root. What does it mean to take one's heart and connect it to its root?

M. Laitman: Well, to that place it began to expand.

Student: Where did it start expanding from?

M. Laitman: From the Creator.

Student: Meaning, what the Creator created came from Him and He brought it out of Himself? That’s the soul of Adam HaRishon?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So the end of correction is individual or it's collective? Does one connect to the end of correction in its entirety or just his individual one?

M. Laitman: That we don't understand or discern, or note. We have to reach the root from which we receive and are filled.

Student: How close are we to adhere to that root? Because according to what I read, it's not the?

M. Laitman: Pray.

Student: Meaning, each one needs to pray, individually?

M. Laitman: Individually, generally, ask.

Student: Just to ask.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (35:30) In 2009, we read this letter, where you explained that one of the characteristics of the ARI’s method is that of the screen. What is that method?

M. Laitman: Yes, because he explained that each and every degree of the will to receive depends on a screen that's on it.

Student: Before him, he didn't speak about the screens and reflected light?

M. Laitman: No.

Student: Meaning, that is a characteristic of the method? Another thing you said, until the time of the ARI, they spoke from above downward. The ARI spoke from below upward?

M. Laitman: The ARI is talking through attainment from below upwards and prior to the ARI, they talked and also wrote and explained in a manner from above down in accordance to examples. See, for example, there's a person, he has ten fingers, so, it stems from the Ten Sefirot: Rosh, Toch, Sof, look at the structure of a person also, and so on. Meaning, it’s not that it's revealed according to the development of the will to receive that reaches the Nine Sefira and the Ten Sefira, which is the true, correct desire to receive. And such things, there are many books that were written by Kabbalists throughout the generations for hundreds of years that talked that way.

Student: Another characteristic you mentioned was that the ARI spoke from the side of the vessels, and before him, they spoke from the side of the light.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: How can you understand that?

M. Laitman: Vessels are a more internal thing than the light. When we attain something, then we see that the light cascades and comes down from above, and that's with the lights. In the vessels, we study that it depends on the vessels, and then according to the vessels and how they're arranged, according to the screens, the lights from above come and flow downwards.

Student: So, say, the Torah and the Zohar are written from the side of the light?

M. Laitman: During those times, there were more people that talked in the form of lights, yes.

Student: Again, how can we understand that that's a general system that's depicted to us? And it's not from attainment from the vessels?

M. Laitman: No, not from the vessels, not from coarseness in the screen and reflected light and all those things, no.

Student: Because the vessels had still not become revealed?

M. Laitman: It wasn't revealed.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (38:55) What is the difference between learning something and understanding it and being in it, being in attainment?

M. Laitman: Like you said, to learn and understand and to just be in it.

Student: To be in that is just?

M. Laitman: Let's say, yes.

Student: Let's say that the ARI writes about the restriction, he writes in the beginning that the Creator restricted Himself. And then we need to understand that in order to connect to the Creator, we need to restrict ourselves. Let's say that that's a principle that goes from there through to Baal HaSulam. And everything we learn is about how a person overcomes the will to receive, how he rises above the will to receive in order to connect with the Creator, and I feel that that comes from there. What is the difference between a person understanding that there is this work before him, that he needs to work in order to correct himself, and then there's a person who's in that place?

M. Laitman: So there's a difference, either working on the vessels and by them attainment. And then he understands also the internality of the matter, and also the externality of what happens.

Student: You told us earlier that we need to reach the knowledge that there is one Creator and one law that is connection. And we need to see that and that's what will help us. This matter that there is connection, I see that there's a single book, a single teacher. And I'm also sitting around 300 or let's say 3,000 students, everyone certainly hears something different because of his root of his soul, it doesn't matter because of what. The main thing is that each one feels something different, what do we attain in connection that gives a person a feeling that he himself, with his mind and feelings, that he won't reach that in his life? How do we differentiate that from discernments?

M. Laitman: That's the difference between the individual and the general. You have to attain and then see, otherwise, you can't get there.

Student: The general attains more than the individual?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (41:37) I wanted to ask you how the student opens his heart to all the teachers?

M. Laitman: To all the teachers?

Student: To all the Kabbalists that were before him.

M. Laitman: To open his heart, he opens his heart?

Student: Yes.

M. Laitman: He, simply, comes and wants by the study to come closer to the teacher, and by him to the Creator, which is the actual purpose of his study.

Student: Is it possible to pray for the teachers, for all the Kabbalists we have? Can we pray and through them connect to the Creator? Either to pray alone or with the Ten?

M. Laitman: It's possible.

Student: In general, in the Ten, we pray, we read the articles and we pray to the Creator.

M. Laitman: No, I don't think so, we don't have such guidance. We need to pray to the Creator, only. For Him to help us reach His degree and to implement and realize ourselves.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (43:22) We were reminded a few times during the lesson about the ability to teach those who come after us. Meaning, we have a desire to come to the Creator, so we need to also take others and draw them to that.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: I, now, am giving a lesson weekly on the wisdom of Kabbalah to a small class but because I am each day in front of the Rav, so I have this correct renewal and the corrections that I feel that I am not deviating from the path. Thanks to that daily connection that we have in the morning lesson with the Rav. In the absence of that connection, I am very afraid to draw others after me. I am afraid of corrupting the method, I am afraid of not communicating correctly.

M. Laitman: You don't feel the group, itself, the big group?

Student: Now it's hard to differentiate between the big group and the Rav, whether there is a difference? Meaning, that you dwell in everything in the group. I don't know how to differentiate a good influence on me, if it's thanks to the Rav. What would happen without that, I would have that daily influence. But if the ARI said not to stop his influence after his departure in order not to learn his texts, in order not to blemish the Torah after his passing. So that's also how I feel, that the Creator will give what He wants, but to come and give a method through my corruptions, I am afraid of doing that. So the question is how do you draw people after you, to attract people, without dressing and being in this daily, regular connection with the Rav, just like you were with the Rabash? Is it permissible to do that at all?

M. Laitman: You're drawing them to the sources, and then afterwards, they find in these sources, through them.

Student: As if, simply, you engage in the sources without too much interpretation but in any case, just like you teach us. People want to get deeper into it, they want to feel, they want some interpretation of the things, in any case. And the moment they start interpreting, so then there are people who interpret one way, there's people who interpret other ways, there are people who interpret better and worse. There's different degrees of this wholeness of the Torah and this fear that we will not blemish what we have given.

M. Laitman: One will only learn in a place where his heart desires, therefore, each hears something different.

Student: I request to understand whether there is this authority to teach at all, do we have an authority to teach? I mean, where do we get the authority to teach where we ourselves are not dressed on the teacher until Moshe, our teacher?

M. Laitman: Because you come here daily, and connect, between you and me, and this is how you're corrected.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (47:28) If, as you said, everyone hears something different, how can we reach unity, how do we reach one?

M. Laitman: If we want to be together, even though we're different, we enter under one umbrella. Which actually controls us and doesn't let us escape from the connection that she gives.

Student: What happens with all the difference, with everyone seeing something different?

M. Laitman: That each sees something different, it's for sure, there's no question about that. The question is whether he understands where he comes from, meaning which root with everyone and where he's going, to what goal they're all going with everyone. And on the way, as they lose all the details that they feel in their vessels, that's okay, that's how the final unification is built.

Student: If everyone comes from one root, where is that point where a split is created? And how do they return?

M. Laitman: That's the shattering of the Kli in Adam HaRishon.

Student: What? And so how do we return to that point, to that point of unity?

M. Laitman: We draw to the light, we're attracted to the light through the connection between us and the Tens. And to the extent in which the Creator changes for us every single day, the actions, and we nevertheless aim ourselves towards connection and to the goal. It turns out that what He does gives us new conditions.

Student: Meaning, each one from their perspective, we always direct to that point?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (49:58) I wanted to ask: Kabbalists, what is important to them, that they will remain after them?

M. Laitman: The method that's in the students, not in the books, and not in the pages of the book. But, rather, that it's in the students.

Student: So what do they leave, they leave students?

M. Laitman: Yes, that's the matter that begins to get organized that way, according to that teacher that taught them.

Student: So, the teacher leaves students in which there is the method, and then what needs to happen, if that's what is left in them?

M. Laitman: Development, expansion.

Student: No, what I'm trying to understand is, leaving the method is one thing, leaving students is another thing. So, how do the students act out of the method that the teacher imprinted into them?

M. Laitman: That's how the students are educated, that they have to continue the method. To connect between them, to examine themselves, whether we are as one man in one heart. They connect, and from our connection we're aimed to one goal, and that's how all the time we check ourselves.

Student: What determines their loyalty to the method?

M. Laitman: That's the daily meeting where they also study, and also repeat it later. And also connect through the attainment, and so on.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (52:15) Continuing the friend, when we look at our organization, we see that people get older over time, we don't really see new blood in this organization.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: I'm asking in relation to the future, what's going to be left here afterwards because we see that over time?

M. Laitman: When I came to Rabash, he didn't have younger students than, let's say, age 40, and there were, in the 70s and 80s, that's it. So what?

Student: I'm trying to ask, out of this concern for the future of the organization, how is it going to look? It's going to get smaller and smaller until there's going to be a small group that will be very old? Or it's going to be expanding and they'll be much more popular?

M. Laitman: And it'll be more folksy and more attractive to people, different kinds of people. As long as they will have the purpose of creation important to them.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (53:50) I wanted to ask if we're going to become more folksy and to reach as widely as possible. Will that come on account of that in which students will be loyal to the method? Do they need to, in any case, expand, or do they need to be loyal to the method?

M. Laitman: This is not associated with that, these two things are completely different.

Student: How are those two different things?

M. Laitman: Because we want to grow and upon that, we need to open ourselves towards everyone. And we also need to watch over ourselves so that from this, we need to restrict, and not preach to go wild.

Student: That's totally understood, let's say a part of our loyalty to the method is to follow Rabash, Baal HaSulam, what you teach us. It could be that in order to expand, maybe, the collective won't want these things, they'll want different things. And so they'll say that we'll, they're ready but if we go according to our loyalty to the method, they'll say, no, we don't want that.

M. Laitman: They don't want, it's not needed.

Student: So there is nothing that comes on account of loyalty to the method, meaning we always need to be loyal to the method, even on account of reaching the masses.

M. Laitman: Yes, certainly, otherwise, what will we do, engage in history, geography, what?

Student: No, because you said that you need to reach more of the masses, that we need to become more for the masses. So I'm asking, can it come on account of our loyalty to the method?

M. Laitman: No, no, our method is the same.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (55:50) That's exactly what we're discussing now, recently: How can we wisely combine people who want to reach adhesion and who study daily and also provide a place for everyone? So I'm asking you what could be the easing here for these people? To study less, to connect less, what's easier for these people and which still lets them hold the principles?

M. Laitman: So it could be that for the new students that are coming, you don't obligate them to come every day and at 2 a.m. or 3, like us, that's clear and that's it. But later, more and more for them to be drawn to our order of things.

Student: Where else can there be light things, what are the red lines?

M. Laitman: The red lines is that we don't engage in anything that is not from Baal HaSulam or Rabash.

Student: Okay, that's clear, what else?

M. Laitman: That is all, there is nothing else.

Student: Meaning, the break is only in the study, it's going to be in also different kinds of forms of study? Where a person learns what's written there, like in the Torah, that just to serve and engage in dissemination and volunteering?

M. Laitman: There are those who will engage only in that or another thing. And there are others who cannot study even one line but they excel in dissemination. There are such people, they need to be given a place because most of us want to sit and study, yes.

Student: I mean, there will be a group of Bnei Baruch, and there might be a circle that doesn't study with us because today there's no circle, there's one circle. We are all learning from you together, no matter what. One who comes once a year, once a week, or every day. There's no difference and hears everything. So will there be different study groups?

M. Laitman: It seems so.

Student: Or does there need to be a red line that everyone needs to?

M. Laitman: No, we don't need red lines, it'll be like this, in circles.

Student: How will we understand if you won't explain, then how will we understand what those lines are, like you said just now. Who can explain such things?

M. Laitman: I don’t know, I don’t know.

Student: There are many other things like that, like, Maaser, is that a line or not? Study we talked, okay? There are other, many things that are written, so how will we understand?

M. Laitman: I think that it will all become clear to you.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (59:22) Maybe to continue that, Rabash and Baal HaSulam use a lot, this quote from the Rambam that to the women, the small ones and the servants, they teach them pleasantly from Lo Lishma to Lishma. What's that principle where we go out to the broad public, and teach them in Lo Lishma but, actually, with our intention being, yes, to reach Lishma?

M. Laitman: That is our intention but it's not the intention of those who come to study. And then we teach them, simply, we'll learn. We'll open a book and study. After a few months, a student already starts asking. What for, why is that, what is the matter of Lishma, where do we learn that, etc.. And gradually that way they will enter it and come closer to it.

Student: Until he asks, what's the matter of Lishma?

M. Laitman: So we don't speak to him.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:00:40) The friend talked about the lines but we can feel where the line is. A person can agree with Baal HaSulam, Rabash, with you, with the group, to come to conventions, to meals. But the work in the Ten, he doesn't have a lack, he's not ready. That actually, the people that are sitting here are willing to work in the Ten and they know that they want to do this. And there are many, many people that agree with us and want to learn from us but don't want to work in the Ten, they're not ready, they're not willing. That's actually that line.

M. Laitman: It's possible, also, to prepare such groups.

Student: The truth is that throughout the lesson, I'm thinking how one who works in the Tens, how we realize the method of the ARI. We together barely learn whatever has to do with the structure of the world, maybe we need to learn it to a certain extent. Also, Zohar, we don't study, I'm talking about in the lesson together in the Ten. How to do this, I don't have answers, maybe you can give an answer?

M. Laitman: I need, we also had the Zohar with Rabash, we studied it on Shabbatot, on the Sabbaths, twice a week, once a week. And all the rest, whenever there's time, let us hope that after the convention, we will have more time. And we will learn each day for half an hour, or maybe one day on, one day off, all kinds of additional things.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:02:48) One day will the writings of the ARI, TES, or the method of the screens, be translated into a social doctrine? Or will we continue to study from the sources, and expecting for the correcting light?

M. Laitman: We will learn the way we learn now, what's the problem? What's the problem with us learning the way we learn, now?

Student: To continue the question and the work that we're doing lately on the vision, how is it possible to connect the sources and the ARI in the development of our vision?

M. Laitman: You can take the writings of the ARI and you can search there. I think that what we have received from Rabash, from his articles, and everything he writes, so we have enough. We have enough, and afterward, we already understand from the work between us, what we need to do.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:04:24) What bothers me from the beginning of this letter is the matter of the 600,000, the writings that were stolen.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And I'm contemplating whether there's something I can do about that.

M. Laitman: I don't know, it's important to me that we learn what is revealed to us, what went through Baal HaSulam and Rabash. And that we will learn things that they went through and, as if, that they signed off to.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:05:13) I just wanted to say to the friend that asked now. That we're not finding the writings, I remember that Rav once told us that also TES is very limited because it doesn't have the Klipot, there. And there are many things that are not there that are found in the Tree of Life itself.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Meaning, we need to really put an emphasis on what's there and what's not there because there's so much to learn.

M. Laitman: That's right.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:05:55) In respect for the ARI, may he rest in peace, remember that man is a small world. Now, from last week, I learned a sentence of being careful of some kind of repetitive normalcy in all the letters and then you have to seek they shall be new in your eyes every day. And to tell the friends that in the TES lesson every day at 5:30 p.m., all kinds of your clips from once in the past. And the last one was, I really loved it because we're lacking a deficiency, and the lack of a deficiency, you gave an example of a fish that has no hands. Now, go explain to the fish that it'll get along great, that he's missing something and that was a wonderful example. Thank you, dear Rav.

M. Laitman: Thanks.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:07:11) Because I want to ask about the attitude towards the Creator, can you relate to Him as a law? And you can relate to Him, many times, as a longing one, loving, and it seems like it's contradicting but it's not, if you can connect the two approaches?

M. Laitman: You do that from your feeling, a person cannot speak about another person in such a way.

Question (Holland): (01:07:48) What made the people in that time of the ARI follow the ARI and accept what he was teaching?

M. Laitman: It was just between his students. Outside of that, no one respected the ARI.

Student: Then, what was it that made the people be attached to him without understanding what he was saying?

M. Laitman: ARI spoke about the secrets of the world where there were people, also at his time, who longed to understand that. And those are the ones who came to him, that is all.

Student: What was missing, actually, for the people to be able to understand him?

M. Laitman: A deficiency. So, if they would have had a deficiency in that time, then they would come to the end of correction.

Student: Okay, so how could in that, so how, this deficiency, what was missing to be able to have this deficiency in that time?

M. Laitman: The souls that still weren't ready for the reception of the method of the ARI. Therefore, a few people came, and after the ARI that's how it was, it became extinguished.

M. Laitman: Yes. Certainly.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:10:29) I want to mention that there are immense friends here, they just don't know the extent of their grandeur. As one who observes them from the side, it's much easier for me to see. And I think that this is a wonderful group, as you teach us how to love and we can really see the sprouts of our study. It doesn't matter the TES, the ARI or all the rest of the Kabbalists, of course, it's important in their way and how they're passing to us.

But what I would like to ask, with your permission, they say in spirituality there's no time. And what always caught me was that the ARI told his students, come on Friday afternoon, we're going to Jerusalem, to give redemption to the people of Israel, and they didn't come for all kinds of reasons. And you're also teaching us that if I miss one lesson, it's actually something I can't make up, I lost it, that's it; it's a window of opportunities. So we know there's no time in spirituality, on the other hand, it's truly cardinal, it's necessary in order to attain the goal. How can they complete those two things?

M. Laitman: You cannot, but from above, afterward, a correction is performed, where, in any case, you receive a stronger influence from the Creator. And by doing so, He compliments for you.

Student: If I could continue with your permission, in TES, we studied that there's a window, an opening, where the vessel is not ready. Does that actually mean that the state of the times, it's until we reach the state of circles, of Igulim, where there's no opening? Or does it depend on anything else?

M. Laitman: No, no, no. It depends on something else.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:12:55) To continue the feeling of what was said to go up to Jerusalem, there's a different strength when it comes to the word connection. And there's this true fear that what enters the point of feeling of connection, which is what we're having today, will be dissolved and parts of us will battle it. How can we pray, as a Kli, so that that will lead us to Jerusalem? Because we need not a personal or a group strength, but from a Kli with you, from you.

M. Laitman: What do you want from me?

Student: I think that each and every one here grasps that connection is different than what he came here to the morning lesson.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: You can feel it, you can feel it in the air, you can feel it through many examples. People say that the moment they leave here, things disappear from them.

M. Laitman: It's clear because you see what a group is, here, it's about 400 people.

Student: Not just that, there's an atmosphere of something much higher and unique.

M. Laitman: Yes, indeed.

Student: Some form of guidance from you that this connection won't stop. We're meeting here at 10:00, meaning we have an opportunity, which is unique.

M. Laitman: Yes, so from now until 10:00 AM Israel time, you can hold on to the connection between you. And then from 10:00 until 2:00 in the afternoon or 2:30 in the afternoon, afterwards, to the hours of the evening. And then to the hours of the morning lesson and that's how it is, time and again.

Student: So, we will raise a prayer for this connection to rise above all the obstacles? Amen.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:15:28) Yesterday evening, there was a certain movement that organized a riot for unification of people. It was organized by people who lost their children in the military. It was for them, I think, and I received it from my sister who doesn't study Kabbalah, she lives in a Kibbutz. She said, I'm going to go and be in this junction and they asked people to go out. Thousands of people went out and they did a certain protest and they got these kinds of shirts, and it said, we're demonstrating for unity. So I wanted to ask you, what do you think about such a thing?

M. Laitman: Unity is seemingly good, the question is what's the goal?

Student: Because many people connect to that simple word.

M. Laitman: Yes, but what do they intend by it, for what?

Student: I think many people feel it's clear to them, maybe, specifically from the opposite, it's clear to them. But you can also understand what the opposite one is.

M. Laitman: Until you explain why I need to unite with others, so I don't come to such things.

Student: So what do we need to say, for what do we need to connect?

M. Laitman: Promote your method: For what, for what purpose, who participates, for whose sake? Draw people to these considerations.

Student: What’s the correct connection that you can say without it, it’s not enough, it’s not right?

M. Laitman: Correct connection is to reach Lishma. Okay, so what can you do, you have something else to say?

Student: So, in the end, only things that we organize, that’s the only thing you can be certain about?

M. Laitman: What we protest, what are we protesting?

Student: Only things that we organize and prepare, that’s the only thing that you can be certain about and trust?

M. Laitman: Certainly, I can check each and every thing, and as much as I have checked, I haven’t seen anything more than ego.

Reader: (01:18:22) Before we conclude, we're at the Yahrzeit of the ARI today, the day of the departure of the Kabbalist. There something special in the departure of the Kabbalist that enables us to connect more, to receive inspiration from him? How to engage in his day, what should we do?

M. Laitman: We need to remember, and it doesn't relate to the memorial day of the ARI, to the Yahrzeit. We need to remember that we are in the ARI's method, in his study, meaning in a certain level of adhesion with him. And we very, very much want to attain what he wrote for us, that is all.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:19:25) Would it be correct, what the friend said about connection?

M. Laitman: Speak into the mic.

Student: Could it be that the connection, to continue what the friend said, and that we learn actually, in the summary of the whole letter in our conversation. Is that connection can be a pretty harsh blow, and that's what Baal HaSulam and the ARI tried to pass to us beyond the general content of their things? Because it's written here that the Sitra Achra's role is to wash all spirits of holiness.

M. Laitman: Hold the mic, straight.

Student: Do we need to relate any importance to this, in observing the correct connection?

M. Laitman: Yes, that includes connection, yes.

Student: To give it room, just like you give room to the study itself. To the keeping of what we are passing onwards.

M. Laitman: Yes, everyone agrees, everyone learns that, yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:21:07) About what you said about the connection and the people, you're correct 100%. But there's not sufficient people who can say full-heartedly that someone needs connection for the sake of the Creator. Who will say that?

M. Laitman: In our dissemination, we do not say that, we say about connection.

Student: So that's what they're doing, connection.

M. Laitman: Yes, that's it.

Student: So, who will wash the brains of the nation that they need connection?

M. Laitman: We ourselves, gradually, step by step.

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