Morning Lesson April 19, 2023
Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio
Part 1:
On the Verge of Lishma - Selected Excerpts from the Sources. #12
1. Rav’s Introduction: (00:32) Yes, we have to realize what state we are in each one, each one towards the ten and all of us together towards the world. The relation should be that from a person to the Ten, and from the Ten to the broader environment, until we want to see the whole world connected together into one Ten, one group. This is our goal and this is what we should hold before us as the purpose of the world. If we will be in that inclination then for sure we will be in the right motion, in the right purpose in the same desire as the Creator. Nevertheless, even though the world is actually in the opposite form, in hatred, in wars, in separation. We need to understand and to be concerned about it and to publicize and to do everything possible only so that all of us, all of us will reach connection from the Ten, from our point and up to the whole of humanity, eventually we'll reach that state where all of us will be as one man with one heart. This may seem to us as something that is not realistic but it's not upon us to do, it is only upon us to ask, to join that plan that the Creator holds. Then we will take part in it as much as possible, each one of us and every Ten. The most important is to reach a connection and to publicize it and to talk about it as much as possible so that we will hold onto that and see the world that it is in such an inclination, even though they themselves don't know about it they don't even want it, that's it. That is what is actually happening to us. The world for certain will turn into this direction and everything depends on us.
We are the central point of humanity and if we will want it, if we will put pressure on that each one from his heart, then for certain we will see an improvement. This is the situation that we are in. Baal HaSulam writes about it in all of his articles, about the society, about the country, about the state, the people and the nation. It doesn't matter what kind of connection, what is most important is the connection. Let's go now and read the excerpts and see what all in all is the connection between us wanting to reach Lishma and complete identification with the Creator and how we want to see the whole world that nevertheless, people will begin to understand that they have no choice but we must all be in one union, one bundle and then the Creator will arrange for everyone that form. Then all of us will see that we are rising in the recognition of the Creator from the spiritual degrees, not only us but the whole world and we will carry out our destiny, our role in the whole of humanity. Alright go ahead and ask, we can talk about that.
2. S. (06:14) What's the connection between Lishma and the state of the world?
R. We as the group that wants to reach the realization of the plan of creation in actuality, right here, right now we have to publicize this knowledge as much as possible in an open manner about unity and connection, as Baal HaSulam writes and out of that we will see how much these things have an influence, they influence humanity.
3. S. ( 07:09) Lishma is also for the sake of humanity?
R. In the end everyone shall know me, from the least of them to the greatest of them and my house shall be called their house for the prayer of all the nations, the house of the Creator is the will to bestow that it rules everyone and it connects everyone together mutually. We need to be those who publicize that so that everyone will know that whether they want to or not, whether they understand it or not but this is what is coming down on us from above and we are in the time of the last generation where this must be realized and so as much as we will talk about it more, whether people agree with it or not, they need to know about it, that according to the plan of creation this is what is happening.
Therefore, what we now feel as the states utter completely the opposite of what we are talking about it is all because this is the way so that we can come from Lo Lishma to Lishma rise from the degree of the animate in which we exist for the time being to the speaking degree so that we rise to the degree of the Creator. That's it, it's not such a great distance. It all happens inside of humanity within a person and it doesn't require many years or even great efforts but rather if we will listen a little bit, direct ourselves a little bit towards that then this change will occur in us it will occur. There is might in quantity and might in quality. We will try to be might in quality because we are not great in quantity, but we will try that around us there will be more and more people who, well, if they don't accept it at least they will understand that this is how it needs to be. They will agree to it not out of their actions on the path but at least according to the idea because from one day to the next we see that there is no choice but rather that will happen from above then we will be happy with it.
4. S. (10:30) You wrote that you said before that the world is turning in this direction and everything depends on us and we are the central point in humanity and if we press that everyone from each one within his heart we'll see an improvement the question is about seeing an improvement will our perception of reality change towards this improvement and is there a different reality?
R. What is the reality? Only the connection between us so that if this connection will be revealed and we will be able to see the world which is all interconnected and it exists in a single force field called The Creator.
S. Is our perception of reality changing?
R. Yes, but rather what else needs to change?
S. The question is outside of whatever we perceive, is there a reality that also needs to arrive at a different perception of reality that this world is improving that we will see importance?
R. According to how we will change we will see a different world.
5. S. (11:53) This process from Lo Lishma to Lishma is only up to us, Bnei Baruch ?
R. Not everyone, it's just that they're all degrees systems degrees and times that we must begin.
S. The world itself, also as a time where it works or it is a process towards the Creator is also from Lo Lishma to Lishma?
R. When the world goes through it, it seems like steps in all kinds of different directions. But eventually as much as we advance towards Lishma and we want them to advance towards connection well for the time being connection, then this is how we will carry the whole world to correction.
6. S. (12:57) It is still not clear to me the quality of connection between us is sufficient to bring correction to the world?
R. Right now of course not.
S. What's required in addition to that?
R. That we will intensify the connection between us and learn about it and talk about it and actualize it so that each one will feel himself that he is truly an organ of his Ten and later on out of that we will feel the need for the connection of all of the Tens together into one body and out of that also people who are connected to us in a more external manner they too will come closer in this view to us and they will want to make an effort to be connected to us.
S. When we are in connection between us a strong connection between us this is already disseminating and rippling through humanity?
R. It already influences the whole of humanity
S. When we are weaker we are required to go out and disseminate?
R. Again?
S. If we are less connected between us and disseminate in a more external point?
R. What's the connection between one and the other?
S. Because if we're connected between us in a high quality of connection then we relay it to everyone through the connection between us so I'm trying to find the connection between us and quality and external dissemination watch the right dosage or proportion?
R. The right dosage or mix is that we have to work in the Tens as much as possible that in the heart of every Ten in the center of every Ten we feel that all of the friends in the Ten are connected and from there the forces go out towards all of the other Tens and with everyone together to the Creator.
7. S. (15:42) That's clear I think what the friend is asking so from this connection the center of the Ten, theTens the whole of humanity where is this channel coming out to disseminate to spread the purpose of creation?
R. We want in our publicity well of course the Ten it is clear that whatever is good in the Ten we want to publicize it to all of the Trens, to awaken them to elevate them, shake them up and as for the whole of humanity we have to publicize this knowledge that the future of the world is in that everyone will connect as it is written in the Torah as it is written in all of the articles of the Kaballists.
S. About making it known publicizing there is also a matter of quality and quantity?
R. Yes.
S. There's a connection between the quality and a connection between the Ten and the other Tens?
R. Yes.
S. Where does it stand, let's say all of the Tens in the whole world are connected, whereas our publicity will be more significant, and will have better results?
R. When I don't when we talk about publicizing, I don't think about publicizing in the sense that by emails or different media or by publicizing it is by the power of our common heart that it goes out and it influences everyone without any words. That there is a group in the world that is operating in a way that is relatively modest although we do publicize our destiny and our purpose but along with that we make sure that from our connection forces will come out to the whole of humanity and it all of it will feel that it has a center of its connection. This is what now it's becoming more and more important and the world will need that.
8. S. (18:28) We know that in all levels of nature what passes through as an example, in our path we learn how to set an example we engage in that we get better out that in the Ten and also between Tens will we have to learn how to set an example outwards to be better at that?
R. For the time being I don't think so, for the time being we are engaging in the connection between us and only the view, the plan, the image of the future connection that the world should take on this is what we need to publicize. That's in the near future humanity must take on such a form.
9. S. (19:30) Who's more dependent on who? Us towards the world or the world depends on us?
R. It is mutual dependency because we are always with the world in a single system so that a part of the system is in order to receive in mutual hatred between them and we try to be connected between us and in mutual support and love.
S. On the one hand there's a picture that if we don't realize the connection between us we don't spread light to more external circles?
R. But because we started to be arranging our connection in a practical manner this is why I am talking about it. The time has come for us to also build a connection not only between us in the Ten and between the Tens but also some kind of connection between us and the world even though their publicity is different.
S. On the other hand it says that they will be carried on their shoulders and bring them to the temple and so forth and all the anti-semitism and external pressure also advances so I wanted to understand this dependence?
R. The dependence is a simple one. We need to reach a state where we influence the whole world and the whole world bit by bit in all kinds of different forms from rejection and hatred and up to understanding and coming closer eventually they'll accept it.
10. S. (21:52) In a transition from state to state there is an intermediate phase. What is the intermediate between Lo Lishma and Lishma?
R. The intermediate degree or the median between Lo Lishma and Lishma is the help of the Creator. It appears in a more revealed open manner and it holds us in Lishma.
11. S. (22:41) What is the recognition of evil that humanity has to go through?
R. I don't know in what form it needs to manifest in all the different parts of humanity and in all of it together but everyone should reach the understanding that way exists in the will to receive in order to receive what is called the evil inclination. We must reach a will to bestow mutually between us which is called the good inclination and the transition between this and that is called rising from the lower world to the upper world, Lo Lishma to Lishma. That’s it, that is the recognition that humanity needs to hear about it even though it doesn’t agree with it, it doesn't understand it. It will happen gradually just like a person who is born until they reach something which does he have to go through these states, many states, it is the same with us. We need to enable humanity to know through all kinds of different media and publicizing that they have to shift from this to that. As Baal HaSulam writes there is nothing that is secret here, it is difficult to explain it, it is difficult to actualize it, we can see that on ourselves and all the more so on you the whole of humanity even though there it is because of the amount of people the number of people it is going to be different but the publicity has to be there we have to begin there.
S. How does external dissemination contribute to the connection between us?
R. We are one system with the end with the whole of humanity so as much as we want to see them also connected together by that we cause the expansion of our dissemination also towards them inside of them between them.
S. You also spoke about disseminating between us that do whatever's good in the Ten should be advertised to the rest of the Tens. What does that mean?
R. It's through prayer, speaking, and acting that we need to show each ten to the other Tens not to work in a concealed manner but to try to show examples of connection. Examples of connection.
12. S. (26:13) You told a friend that there is an intermediate phase and then the help of the Creator is needed.
R. I hear you I don't hear a question?
S. My question is what is the help of the Creator? What do we need from Him?
R. What will we need from Him? That He will do everything for us so that we will rise from the degree of the desire which is in order to receive to the desire which is in order to bestow.
S. What do we need to do for Him to do that?
R. We need to see ourselves in all kinds of different forms and degrees and levels. That we are ready and we expect the Creator to build such a connection between us that we on our own can't even depict. What does it mean bestowal? What does Lishma mean, right? That it truly dwells among us.
S. That too is not clear to me, what you just said, what is that connection? How can that be scrutinized? What do we need to do?
R. We make efforts, great efforts that we are seemingly connected together and that we want each one of us to be connected with the others.
S. How?
R. Search for the connection so that the connection would be a strongest possible and this is what I ask myself about every moment during the day
Where does the Creator fit into this help?
R. The force of the Creator is the force of bestowal, that we begin to discover that it appears between us and it connects between us. I don't have anything more to say but we need to think about it a lot and try to get closer to it. Then you will find it and it will appear and this is how we will advance.
13. S. (29:10) This connection that we experience and develop in our Tens. How can we communicate it or to at least try to communicate to each other, to the masses, to the world?
R. By talking about the connection in the way with such words with such forms that everyone can somehow imagine it and actualize it even to a certain extent. What are the forms of connection it is like in a family or like in a group or like in a Ten, this is how we want to pass it on to the whole of humanity so that there is nothing special about it but rather the same group that felt back in ancient Babylon that it wants to advance towards connection towards the spiritual quality that until today it takes and it is continuing to exist and continuing to publicize the method of connection to the entire world. This is the matter of Abraham.
14. S. (31:13) In this state you are describing this connection of all of us all the world Kli vessel together it needs to happen specifically now during the lesson?
R. Well during the lesson as well by not everyone connects to us all those who do connect and besides I don't mean just this group that is connected during the lesson. I mean the whole of humanity that each should begin to feel bit by bit that what we have ahead of us that we stumble again and again in all kinds of wars and troubles and problems and disasters that all of those stem only from the fact that we exist in an egoistic desire towards each other and if we want to rise through a good degree of existence, then we have to change ourselves. The key is in our hands.
S. This time is most ideal for changes within us and in the world?
R. Yes. We are entering our time where the connection between us can influence the whole world.
15. S. (33:00) Yesterday in the morning lesson it was felt from the friends questions how unique is our path and basically for unique individuals because we are doing work forward without feedback and it is difficult to find direction, I wanted to ask you since I started on the path I always have these thoughts these dreams how the Creator created and organized this system from the beginning of the path to say for Lishma and do you think that with the development of the wisdom we will be able to bring it closer so that it becomes clearer the middle of the path the stages that a person can measure where he is?
R. No, never because it doesn't follow the person's intellect but only the devotion.
S. To what extent will the development approach the masses?
R. Not according to the mind of the masses and not according towards the masses it will be developed by the masses, understanding that they must all know their natural ego in which they were born and only then can they enter the spiritual degree and live in it. We have no other choice and neither do we.
S. From our perspective there's not much more effort to make in developing the method basically to make it to bring it closer?
R. There are all kinds of options and possibilities but in the end you see Kabillists speak in such a way where they don't really leave us with so many, a broad area or possibilities or opportunities because how can you explain to an ordinary person in the world who exists that he exists in in order to receive, his egoistic and he has to rise to another degree where is that other degree and how is it possible and if you explain it to him directly that we have to love, that we have to bestow then he doesn't understand it, he doesn't accept it and so the fact that you are searching for some transition from Lo Lisma to Lishma, logically, in an earthly manner, that is not going to work.
S. The other thing when I started on the path I really was the enthusiastic that I see that it talks about the will to receive and I can see it on myself, unlike religion, where it says do all kinds of actions in your life and maybe at the end of your life you'll get something maybe yes, maybe no, and then I saw that after a month you study and you feel the progress,you feel the process and you see 20 years I am here going through many changes but it is hard to put them together to organize them?
R. You should try to see these changes in the group so that all in all from all of you nearing more successful or less successful between the friends from that you'll get an intellect and emotion that is not personal individual but rather it is group wise and in it you begin to see seemingly with new glasses, you see reality that it is all round and it includes many qualities, ten qualities and they compose for you the image of the world that is already above your individual ego.
S. Can these stages, can they be written down and sorted out what you've just said? Does the same development in the group can I know what first, second, third, fourth know what the process is?
R. I don't think it can be done in a general way because for each and everyone it nevertheless comes in an individual manner but we will learn about it and try to do it we will do it.
16. S. (38:09) I want to ask about the points you said about everything depends on us ,it doesn't depend on politicians necessarily and in the present political system in the world we see anti-semitism, we see relation with the neighbors can get worse with Iran with Lebanon and especially at this point I want to ask about the importance of dissemination in Muslim countries also in Turkey. For example, 35 friends came to the Congress in Passover and they were full of impressions and maybe in a couple of years not Turkey but a hundred friends will come in Passover congresses.Can we balance or can we create a force against anti-semitism?
R. We don't need to be against the anti-semitism. Because we ourselves build this but rather we need to work in a different way, to explain that connection is the future of the world according to the internal plan of the world and if we follow that in a plan to connect together to truly be as one man with one heart then by that we cause for ourselves for everyone a complete peaceful quiet and develop world and otherwise, otherwise we will reach wars, world wars, in forms that we have never seen before so that each and everyone will suffer personally not just someone out there, in the army, but rather everyone. This will already be such a war where everyone will receive such suffering so that they will want to run away from it and they will be willing to shift to the form of bestowal just in order to run away from the suffering and it will be already and you state qualitatively.
S. From you that we are the GE, we are the channel of light to the big desires of the nations, so the only thing we need to do is to draw the light to this world and the light will do the rest?
R. Yes, that's correct this is our work eventually this is our work to be as GE towards the whole of what is connection in humanity.
S. Do we have to go through this force, armageddon so when you see that the Russian Navy… is coming for the coming of the messiah do we have to go through these prophecies?
R. No, no, it will pass in a different way that we shouldn't take these things as an example that it has to be revealed between us on a daily basis.
17. S. (43:04) How can we influence the whole of humanity even if we connect in the Ten we don't see how we can influence a billion people?
R. For us it is hard to connect in the ten because we have to invite and upon ourselves we have to invite the reforming light and connect with it whereas, for the whole of humanity it will be a lot easier. Where even with the smallest movement towards connection between them. This is the difference between quality and quantity by their quantity, by their numbers, they will be able to invite upon themselves a great light that will pacify everyone and will arrange everyone and this will truly be a correction from the heavens. We on each and every step along the way we have to demand from the Creator for forces and actions whereas when it comes to humanity then no there it's in a much easier, faster way and we will see how that works. It is just like as usual the difference between the small part of society that goes forward and breaks through,trailblazing doing everything and then the majority of the world, the greater part of humanity that just uses whatever the great ones, the pioneers achieved. This is how it works.
18. S. (45:30) What does dissemination Lishma mean? Is there such a thing?
R. Well, Lishma means for the sake of the Creator, so of course we want to have dissemination of Lishma as much as we are capable of being in order to bestow to Him it will end up being dissemination Lishma.
S. What is connection Lishma?
R. It's the same thing?
S. Dissemination Lishma is the same?
R. No but it is divided much in the same way as much as we are able to aim ourselves only for the benefit for the Creator, only without seemingly anything for us and for humanity then it will be Lishma.
S. So what's the connection? What is our work in dissemination for Lishma, connection Lishma? Can you maybe clarify what is the work in dissemination Lishma, what is the working in connection Lishma?
R. It's the same work that you can imagine right now except your intention needs to be Lishma. Meaning only for the sake of the Creator’s action in the world that he can be revealed in these actions to the whole world as the only One.
S. What’s relevant for us right now? What does the Creator want from us now the most?
R. The Creator wants us to connect on the level that we are able to connect and through one shall help his friend we move closer to Lishma.
S. How is that related to the dissemination of Lishma?
R. To the extent that people move closer to it, think about it, we are supporting you so they are revolving around it then it is easier for us to realize these things too.
S. The purpose for dissemination is so that it will be easier for us to implement for Lishma?
R. It is both for us and for everyone.
19. S. (47:55) Today it is more clear to people that each and every person operates out of his ego, out of self-interest, so can the advertising also touch the inner change that every person has to go through? As usually we publicize connection, connection above the ego, above the resistance, above the different views and opinions, connection above that. So I'm asking can we add to this also, the inner change that every person has to go through? Because the recognition of evil is increasing, people are reaching a dead end in everything so maybe there is a possibility for a leap here in what we have to publicize?
R. I don't think it is going to help a person advance. I don't think so but try here and there to try some small elements of that to try.
S. How even can we take a deficiency from what is happening on the outside towards what we are doing? Meaning that our work will be more tight between what's happening here and what's happening on the outside?
R. Outside we are in a deteriorating human society. We have achieved some good state, let's say and then for the recent years already we can feel that we are declining. Perhaps we don't think about it that broadly yet but it is beginning to be felt in practice in our social systems, economic systems, various systems. And therefore, in that way we should go out and explain that the world will continue as it is, we are not going to get to a better life unless we will be somewhat more connected as a single system, a reciprocal system that guards itself from declining into wars, that doesn't allow decline into wars. And for that we have to learn how we can nevertheless, how we are connected by nature and how we ourselves can connect to that, to each other mutually more and more. There's no other choice because otherwise, we are just heading towards destruction like Baal HaSulam writes.
20. S. (51:15) If we will reach the first degree of Lishma, we will have a breakthrough. What kind of influence will that have on the world?
R. If only we arrive at it? I don't think you'll be able to influence something more than what you are doing now, not a lot more.
S. Not me, the society or maybe a small group?
R. What can you show them?
S. There's no significance to this?
R. No, it's like a Kabbalist or a group of Kabbalists that are in society like say the group of …or Baal Shem Tov, even though they were working in other times but what can they show everyone? That it is possible to live in a relationship of mutual bestowal.
S. You said once that when we perform a correction we elevate the whole world together with us?
R. That you are doing but the world doesn't necessarily feel it.
S. Not that they will feel it but if we rise to a spiritual degree, how will it influence the world, how can we depict that? We are always depicting here that we have to disseminate, we have to go and do all kinds of things. I'm not saying we shouldn't, we of course, we have to do that but?
R. By that you change public opinion and then the public rises, and here you are talking about you rising within a small group, it's a completely different thing.
S. What is this totally different thing?
R. Because you don't cause them to ascend, you are raising yourself with your small group. What about them? They stay where they are even relative to you, they go lower.
S. That's not that we learned, we learned that a person who corrects himself, he elevates all of the degrees there's still the vegetative the animate and[...]
R. It does within him, he raises them within him but it is not that along with him the world rises as well.
S. But isn't the whole world incorporated within me?
R. Well, that's words.
21. S. (54:00) How can we show examples of connection to the whole world?
R. Only externally, mutual assistance, mutual help and support, no other way.
S. How can they perceive us? Let's say, that we show, so what do they see? What do we want them to see? That we need them to work in a community that they see we are really bestowing to each other. What sort of examples do they need to see?
R. That too, we want them to generally understand that the connection of the world is the future and we shouldn't work in the opposite direction, that's it.
S. Is it an example to live in communities of bestowal, of love? Or do we just need to publicize books?
R. I don't think that we can give examples of beautiful, corrected communities that are closed within themselves and work together in mutual aid, I don't think so.
S. How do you say, how can we give this example that we can show the world that wow, this is how we should live and this is going to come to a total connection of the world and love and peace? There needs to be an example somewhere?
R. What examples do you receive now from the spiritual world? You have the friends in front of you and you are being told how you need to relate to them in order to build the spiritual society but an actual live example, you don't see and how can you see spiritual relationships through your eyes?
22. S. (56:53) What prayer should we have when we publicize the method? How do we build the inner connection between the Upper One and the lower one?
R. The inner connection between Upper and lower, we publicize as much as it is possible that it's our relationship to the Creator that's the Upper and lower. I don’t understand the question? How can I disseminate my connection to the Creator? Who told you to do that?
S. Is there some special prayer during such a time?
R. No, you don't need to advertise this at all. We need to advertise that the world's future is in connection, that people will get closer to each other. By that, we go into accord with the Upper forces of nature and then they won't shape us and influence us antagonistically. It will rather all smooth more easily, beautifully, smoothly and then humanity won't have to go through wars, that is what we are talking about. I'm not going to explain to them some lofty high things, only things that have to do with their life.
23. S, (58:48) On our path it is clear that connection is not within our power. There is a higher force and we ask it to connect us for humanity. By what power are they supposed to understand that they are connected? What will connect between them? How should I understand it?
R. That they will understand in a simple way, that by somewhat changing their attitude towards each other for the better, they draw from nature and they don't need to know that it goes through us; they draw a positive force of connection. A force that heals everything, that calms down everything, that resides in mutual bestowal, and in this way everything will calm down.
S. What does it mean that we are inviting from nature a good force? What does it mean to draw from nature a good force?
R. That we draw the light that reforms from above by wanting to be together and from one moment to the next if we want to be more together, we want to get closer to each other, then we draw the Upper Force, the Upper Lights from above that influence us.
S. Meaning that the very desire to be together is what will promote us to a better state?
R. Of course that is the law of nature.
S. Another very conspicuous thing now is that everyone is trying to change the other by these things becoming only more extreme and polarized. How will we understand that on the outside that I have to change myself to be better for everyone except other than forcing others to change?
R. We would like to advertise that each and everyone must treat the others in a good way and a good way that is it. You want the world to be a better place, that tomorrow will be better than today. Treat the world and everyone well. Do not show in the world a bad will and an ill will because we are in an environment, in a climate that we fill with our own forces and how we fill it is with our life.
24. S. (01:02:05) If we advance from Lo Lishma to Lishma what should we sacrifice to the Creator in order to appease the Creator, to give him contentment?
R. Only one thing: that we want to fulfill His will, to carry out His will, that is it.
25. S. (01:02:48) In our gatherings we have intense workshops, in which each one speaks but we do not see the force of bestowal between us. How can we show this force of bestowal to the whole of humanity?
R. When we want to help each other in connecting between us, we discuss that. By that we are discussing the force of connection and it begins to enliven our atmosphere that is what we need to do. And accordingly we pray to the Creator, that He will help us in that connection and that is how we have to feel that it is happening. No more to add to that.
26. S. (01:04:49) Is the atonement in Lishma what is the difference between annulment and Lishma?
R. Annulment is the beginning of Lishma and Lishma is already a person that works in bestowal but the annulment has to be the beginning. As we say restriction, screen and reflected light and then the action on the reflected light.
27. S. (01:05:35) In a group is it possible to connect friends that are on different levels in spirituality?
R. Yes, that does not matter, just like in our society.
28. S. (01:06:06) When I go out to disseminate what should I think of? Connection in the ten, connection with the whole of human? What should be my prayer?
R. I want the people that I am facing to understand that connection is the general correction and there is nothing for us to do in this entire world besides this general connection. And in general, all of the states that should appear in the world only depend on connection, on this general correction.
29. S. (01:07:20) I hear that on one hand, we simply have to engage in publicizing and telling people about the process that we need to go through and the need for connection. On the other hand, the importance of the example in this process of education is also critical. We hear about it all the time. And our thoughts about it and we hear questions from the friends about it. And Baal HaSulam also writes about it in ‘The Writings of the Last Generation,’ there has to be a small institution or small group so nevertheless, there's a question here: should we give an example or not?
R. Let's see. I don't know, you are asking me about states that I'm not in them yet and neither are you and no one else is. And we don't have an example, so we will have to advance and see. And according to what we will be revealed, we will set up the right systems and be able to set the examples.
S. To a certain extent, even now already, is our world group, which is made up of thousands of people from all kinds of religions and nationalities and angles that are trying everyday, also organizing their lives in such a way to try to build love between them, above all the differences and gaps, isn't that an example?
R. I don't know. I don't think it is an example because not every person is ready for this kind of routine and way of life that we have.
30. S. (01:09:20) We were thinking that we want to delve deeper into the writings of Baal HaSulam, on the topic, we can read from ‘The Nation’ read from the newspaper. There’s a chapter there, an article that talks about what you were talking about. Do you want to do that?
R. Okay, we will not have time for anything.
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