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Daily Lesson (Morning), April 6, 2024.

Part 1: Rabash. Lishma and Lo Lishma. 29 (1986)

Reader: Hello, we're reading in the writings of Rabash, the article Lishma and Lo Lishma. You can find the study materials in our websites, in Sviva Tova and the Arvut  system, you can also send us questions live through the websites. Anyone asking a question in the study hall is asked to stand up, hold the microphone close to his mouth and speak loud and clear. The Writings of Rabash, the article, Lishma and Lo Lishma.

Reading Article: (00:41) Rabash. Lishma and Lo Lishma. 29 (1986)

We find four kinds among observers of Torah and Mitzvot [commandments]:

The first kind: Sometimes a person observes Shabbat because his employer forces him. That is, the rule is that if a person has an employee who is desecrating the Shabbat, if he tells the employee, “If you don’t stop desecrating the Shabbat I will fire you,” the rule is that he has to say that he will observe Shabbat or he will fire him from his job. And where there are no other jobs, he promises the employer to observe Shabbat. It follows that he is observing Shabbat because the employer forces him.

This brings up the question, “Whose Shabbat is he observing? Is it the Shabbat that the Creator has commanded to observe?” Accordingly, is he keeping the Mitzvot of the Creator or the Mitzvot of the employer, since the employer commanded him to observe Shabbat or he will have no provision? Nevertheless, according to the Halacha [Jewish law], he is regarded as “observing Shabbat.”

The same rule applies to the rest of the Mitzvot. We can put it differently: If a father knows that if he tells his son that he must observe Torah and Mitzvot or he will not support him, since the father knows that if he does not support him he will have no provision, and according to the Halacha, the father must see that the son observes Torah and Mitzvot, here, too, there is the question, “Whose Torah and Mitzvot is he observing? Is it the Creator’s, who has commanded us to observe Torah and Mitzvot, or is he observing his father’s Torah and Mitzvot?”

Whatever the case may be, he belongs to people who observe Torah and Mitzvot. These are the words of Maimonides (Hilchot De’ot, Chapter 6): “He who admonishes his friend first, will not speak harshly to him.” What is this about? It is about matters that concern man and man. However, with Godly matters, if he does not secretly repent, he is shamed in public, his sin is made known, he is cursed to his face, and disparaged and cursed until he reforms.”

Here, too, there is the question, “Whose Mitzvot is he observing, those of the Creator or those of the people who are cursing him?” However, here, too, we see that at the end of the day he is regarded as “observing Torah and Mitzvot.” That is, when we consider the act he is performing, we find that there is nothing to add to the action. The only question pertains to the intention, meaning to the reason that compels him to observe the Torah and Mitzvot. This is the first kind of observing Torah and Mitzvot.

The second kind: He observes Torah and Mitzvot because of upbringing, since he was born into an orthodox environment, or he was not born into an orthodox environment but later came into one, and it influenced him into observing Torah and Mitzvot. The reason for which he observes Torah and Mitzvot is that he was told that by this he will have both the life of this world and the life of the next world. Afterwards he began to see that people who are meticulous about Torah and Mitzvot are respected and appreciated, and saw how others speak to such people who pray more enthusiastically and dedicate more time to studying Torah. The respect they receive gives him a thrust; it is a fuel for him, and he, too, begins to pray more enthusiastically, and he is more meticulous with each commandment and gesture. By this he has strength to add time in studying Torah.

This is already the second kind of observing Torah and Mitzvot, since he wants to observe Torah and Mitzvot out of choice, since he understands that by this the Creator will reward him for keeping His commandments. However, he adds another name to the reason that commits him to observe Torah and Mitzvot. That is, the respect that he sees that those who observe Torah and Mitzvot more diligently than others receive. And besides the respect, those who are meticulous about Torah and Mitzvot have other things that the public commit them to work more. It can be money or anything, but there is another reason for which he must observe Torah and Mitzvot.

It follows that on the one hand he is higher than the first kind, since here he is observing the Torah and Mitzvot of the Creator, since he believes in the Creator. It is unlike the first kind, which does not believe in the Creator and observes Torah and Mitzvot out of knowing the punishment—that the employer might fire him—and this is why he has taken upon himself to observe Torah and Mitzvot.

However, the second kind was educated into believing in the Creator and observing Torah and Mitzvot because the Creator has commanded us to observe Torah and Mitzvot. The reward and punishment are not in knowing. Rather, he must believe in reward and punishment, that the Creator is the one who pays the reward, as our sages said (Avot, Chapter 2, 21), “You can trust your landlord to pay you for your work, and know that the reward of the righteous is in the future.”

Thus, he must believe in reward and punishment. This is not so in the first kind. They do not have to believe in reward and punishment. Rather, the reward and the punishment are revealed. This means that if he does not obey the employer and observes Torah and Mitzvot he will certainly be punished, meaning he will be fired and will be jobless.

Also, according to the above-mentioned words of Maimonides that he must be degraded, etc., here, too, he does not need to believe in reward and punishment because he feels the suffering of being chased into taking upon himself to observe Torah and Mitzvot. This is something else because he is actually observing the commandment of the employer and not because of the commandment of the Creator, so it is regarded as only the first kind of work of the Creator.

In the second kind he observes the commandments of the Creator but adds another thing, meaning adds another reason to have fuel to observe Torah and Mitzvot, such as honor or money, or other things. That is, he has other reasons for which he observes Torah and Mitzvot. In the words of our sages (Sukkah 45b), this is called “Anyone who joins working for the Creator with another thing is uprooted from the world, as it is said, ‘For the Lord alone.’”

We should interpret what it means to combine the Creator with something else. According to our way, we should interpret that if he receives another reason that compels him to observe Torah and Mitzvot, it is regarded as being uprooted from the world, since the reason that the cause for observing Torah and Mitzvot should be “for the Lord alone,” meaning that he observes Torah and Mitzvot because it is the Creator’s commandment, without an addition of another reason.

It therefore follows that the main flaw with the act is that he blemishes the Lishma [for Her sake], since observing Mitzvot should be because he works and observes the commandments of the Creator, and because he is working and serving the Creator, and this is why he later comes to ask the Creator to reward him for his work. At that time he is told, “But you also worked for others, so you had others who obligated you to work for them. Go to them so they will pay you the reward for the work you did for them.”

This is similar to someone working for Dan [Israeli bus company], and asking for a salary from EGED [another bus company]. They do not want to pay his salary since he did not work for them. Likewise, when a person demands of the Creator to reward him for his work, he is told, “You worked for people, so they will give you honor or money. Go to them and they will pay you.” And indeed, they pay him: to the extent of his work, so he is respected.

It turns out that by combining the Creator with another thing—meaning that people, too, commit him to work—he blemishes the Lishma. This is why this is regarded as only the second kind, and his work is still not complete, perfect, and clean.

The third kind: He works only for the Creator and not for people. He works humbly and no one knows how much he prays and how much he learns. Therefore, we cannot say that he is working for people, so they will give him something for his work. Rather, he is working only for the Creator, meaning that the only reason that compels him to observe Torah and Mitzvot is that he wants to keep the Creator’s will.

However, he works for a reward. It is as Maimonides said, “So that no calamities will come to him, and to receive reward in this world,” meaning so the Creator will give him health, provision, and contentment from the children, etc., or so He will give him the next world. This is the reason that gives him fuel so he can do the holy work. For this reason, this work is regarded as Lishma, since the reason that causes him to observe Torah and Mitzvot is only the Creator, meaning that he is working only for the Creator and does not add other things to it.

That is, he has no other reason that causes him to observe Torah and Mitzvot. This is regarded as the third kind because he has no desire to work for anyone; only for the Creator. But the reason that obligates him to observe the commandments of the Creator is fear of punishment, or love of the reward.

This is as it is written in the Sulam [commentary on The Zohar] (“Introduction of the Book of Zohar,” item 190): “There is a person who fears the Creator so that his sons will live and not die, or fears a bodily punishment, or a punishment to one’s money, hence he always fears Him. It follows that he does not place the fear he fears of the Creator as the root, for his own benefit is the root, and the fear is its result. And there is a person who fears the Creator because he fears the punishment of that world and the punishment of Hell. Those two kinds of fear—fear of punishment in this world and fear of punishment in the next world—are not the essence of fear and its root.”

For this reason, since they are not primarily for fear of heaven, we discern this as the third kind. It follows that this work is called Lishma, since he worked for the Creator and not for others, too. That is, he did not take anyone else for whom to work, meaning for others, too, so others will respect him. Rather, he comes to the Creator with the complaint: “Since I have been working only for You, and no one knows what I did in observing Torah and Mitzvot because I have been working humbly, it is only right that You should reward me for my work.”

In this way we should interpret what our sages said, “He who gives a rock to charity so that his sons will live is a complete righteous.” The reason is that he is observing the commandments of the Creator. Because the Creator has commanded us to give charity, we give. It turns out that with respect to giving there are no deficiencies here, since he is observing the Mitzva [commandment] Lishma, meaning for the Creator, and there is no one else obligating him to give charity.

Rather, he is asking for a reward from the Creator, that He will pay for the Mitzva that he is observing, and will pay him for the labor he has given only for the Creator and for none other. That is, it is not like the second kind, where he combined another, meaning people from the outside who also caused him to observe and be meticulous with observing Torah and Mitzvot.

It is as they said (Pesachim, 8a), “And the Tania, he who says, ‘This rock is for charity, so that his sons will live, or that I will go to the next world,’ he is a complete righteous.” RASHI interprets, “He is a complete righteous” in this. They did not say that he is working Lo Lishma [not for Her sake], but that he has kept the commandment of his Creator, who commanded to give charity, and even if he intends for his own pleasure, to be rewarded with the next world or that his sons will live.

This means that although he is asking for reward for observing the Mitzva [commandment], meaning so that his sons will live, or because he wants the reward of the next world for this Mitzva, he is a righteous. The fact that he wants the next world is also regarded as wanting reward, such as so that his sons will live. It is like the above words of the holy Zohar, “Whether he wants a reward in this world or in the next world in return for the Mitzvot, it is not regarded as the essential fear,” since his own benefit is the cause for observing the Mitzvot, and not the Creator. Still our sages said here, “He is a complete righteous.” It is as RASHI interprets, “Because he is observing the Mitzvot of his Creator, who has commanded him to give charity, and also intends for his own pleasure, therefore he is called ‘complete righteous.’”

This is as we explained, that because he is working because the Creator has commanded him to observe Torah and Mitzvot, and he has no one else who obligates him to observe Torah and Mitzvot, this is called Lishma, as RASHI interpreted above. It is like the above-mentioned allegory, meaning that he works for Reuven but asks for a salary from Shimon. This is certainly called Lo Lishma, for he was working for others at the same time, which is called Lo Lishma, and also “the second kind.”

(I heard that there are those who try to explain our sages, who said, “One who says, ‘this rock is for charity, so that my sons will live,’ is a complete righteous.” But he conditioning the observing of the Mitzva, so they are trying to say that it was written in initials, “he is a Tzadi-Gimel [CR].” Afterwards, when they wrote it in explicit words, they turned the Tzadi-Gimel into Tzadik Gamur [Complete Righteous]. However, they were mistaken in interpreting the initials, since Tzadi-Gimel means Tzedakah Gedolah [Great Righteousness/Charity], and not Tzadik Gamur. However, this is probably not the case, since they cannot explain the other verse, which says, “Or that I will have the next world,” since by “next world” he also aims to please himself, the same as “so that my sons will live,” as the above words of the holy Zohar.)

However, the third kind means that he is working for the Creator, as the Creator has commanded us through Moses to observe Torah and Mitzvot, and we are asking for reward from Him, since we worked only for Him, because of the commandment of the Creator, and not for any other reason. This is why it is called Lishma. However, this is only the third kind.

The fourth kind observes Torah and Mitzvot not in order to receive reward, as our sages said (Avot, Chapter 1, 3), “Antiganos, Man of Socho, received from Shimon the Righteous. He would say, ‘Be not as servants serving the master in order to receive reward, but be as servants serving the master not in order to receive reward, and let the fear of heaven be upon you.’”

This means that it is specifically not in order to receive reward that is regarded as “for the Creator,” as he concludes and says, “and let the fear of heaven be upon you.” This means that real fear of heaven is specifically in Lishma [for Her sake] without any reward. That is, he does not intend for self-gratification, but his only intention is to bring contentment to the Creator. This is regarded as “clean Lishma,” without any mixture of self-gratification. This is called the “fourth kind.”

However, we know the question, “Is the Creator deficient that He needs the creatures to work only for Him and not at all for themselves, but only for the Creator without a shred of self-gratification? And if they want to enjoy their work, as well, is this work disqualified and not accepted above as a Mitzva that is worthy of being received by the King? Why should the Creator mind that man, too, enjoys the work?”

The answer is that it is because there needs to be equivalence of form so there will not be bread of shame. The rule is that the branch wants to resemble its root, and as the Creator is the giver, when a person must receive from someone, he feels it as unpleasant. It follows that the restriction and concealment on our vessels of reception so we do not work in order to receive reward were made in our favor.

Otherwise, it would not be possible to have choice. That is, man would never be able to do and to keep the Torah and Mitzvot in order to bestow, since man would not be able to overcome the pleasure that he tasted in Torah and Mitzvot, were it not for the restriction and concealment, as it is known that the greater the pleasure, the harder it is to relinquish it.

For this reason, we were given corporeal pleasures where there is only very thin light, which the holy Zohar calls “thin light,” which fell into the Klipot [shells/peels] at the time of the breaking of the vessels. Also, sparks of holiness were added to them after the sin of the tree of knowledge when Adam HaRishon sinned. These are the pleasures that all created beings pursue. All the wars, murders, thefts, and so forth, that exist in the world are because each one aspires to receive pleasure.

We are meant to overcome these pleasures and receive everything for the Creator. But a person sees how hard it is to exit self-love and relinquish little pleasures. For this reason, were it not for the Tzimtzum [restriction], had the real pleasure that exists in Torah and Mitzvot were revealed, there is no doubt that they would not be able to relinquish the pleasures and say that he is observing Torah and Mitzvot because he wants to bring contentment to the Creator.

However, man cannot agree to observe Torah and Mitzvot without any pleasure because of our nature—that we were born with a Kli [vessel] called “desire to receive delight and pleasure,” so how can we work without any reward?

However, we were given one place on which we can work without any reward. That is, even when we still do not have a taste for Torah and Mitzvot due to the Tzimtzum, there is one advice, which is to work in greatness of the Creator, how privileged we are to be serving the King.

This, we do have in our nature—that the little one annuls before the great one. We have the strength and motivation to work for the great one, whom the generation regards as the most important and venerable in the world. To the extent of his importance, we enjoy serving him. This pleasure is permitted to receive because enjoying giving is not regarded as bestowing in order to receive, for bestowing in order to receive means that he desires a reward specifically for the service he is giving him.

Conversely, if he works at a factory and knows that the owner enjoys everyone being productive, and anyone who produces more than the usual gives the owner great joy. Therefore, he tries to produce more than other workers do so as to delight the owner. However, afterwards he wants the owner to reward him for trying to please him. This is considered that on the one hand he gives, but on the other hand he wants reward. This is called “bestowing in order to receive reward.”

This is not so if a person is serving the king, and says to the king, “I do not want anything in return for the service because I enjoy the service alone, and I do not need to receive any reward, since I feel that anything you give me for the service I am doing for you will blemish my service. All I want is the service. Do not give me any reward, and this is my pleasure, for it is a great honor for me to be rewarded with serving the king.”

Of course, he cannot say that he is bestowing in order to receive, since he does not want to receive anything in return. And why does he not want? It is because he derives great pleasure from serving the king. It follows that this is regarded as “bestowing in order to bestow upon an important person,” and a person measures the importance of the king according to the extent of his joy of serving the king, since the more the king is important, the more he enjoys, for one who serves the greatest in the city is not as one who serves the greatest in the country, or the greatest in the world.

This is regarded as true bestowal. That is, he enjoys the giving itself, since the main point of bestowing was for the purpose of equivalence of form. That is, as the Creator is the giver, so the creatures want to be givers, and we should certainly say that the Creator enjoys His giving.

It follows that if the creatures bestow upon the Creator and He derives no joy, there is still no equivalence of form here, since the Creator enjoys when He gives to the lower ones. This means that the joy results from the act of bestowal, and if we must receive something in return for the act, then we are blemishing the act and say that there is no wholeness in the act. Rather, to have wholeness we must add something, meaning receive something in return for the act, while the act itself is not so important.

In truth, if we want to do an act of bestowal upon the Creator we must try to enjoy it because the joy of an act of bestowal regards the action, since every single thing that a person wants to do and which is important to him, he gives it a priority to do it first. And the meter by which a person chooses what is most important is that which he enjoys the most.

It therefore follows that if one wants to appreciate the work he is doing for the Creator, he can appreciate it only by receiving great joy. That is, if one can try to derive great joy then he can know that now he is bringing great contentment to the Creator by giving to the Creator when he observes His commandments.

That is, a man desires to bestow contentment upon the Creator but does not know what he can give to the Creator that will delight Him. For this reason, when it is revealed to us that He has given us Torah and Mitzvot, and if we observe them He will enjoy, we are certainly happy that now we know what to do for Him. We therefore see that we were given the blessing to do while observing Torah and Mitzvot, since we say, “Blessed are You the Lord, Giver of the Torah.”

It is written in the Mitzvot that we thank Him for giving to us, for example, the Mitzva of the Sukkah [the hut on Tabernacle Feast]. For example, we are all happy that He instructs us what to do that will delight Him, and we do not need to search for things that will delight the Creator. But the question is, how can we increase our pleasure while performing the Mitzvot?

Answer: There is only one way—to try to attain the greatness of the Creator. That is, in all that we do in Torah and Mitzvot, we want our reward to be the feeling of the greatness of the Creator, and all our prayers should be to “raise the Shechina [Divinity] from the dust,” since the Creator is hidden from us due to the Tzimtzum that took place and we cannot appreciate His importance and greatness.

Therefore, we pray to the Creator to remove His concealment from us and to raise the glory of Torah. As we say in the Eighteen Prayer of Rosh Hashanah [New Year service], “Indeed, give glory to Your people.” That is, “Give the glory of the Lord to Your people,” so they will feel the glory of the King.

For this reason, one must try to remember the goal while studying Torah, so it will always be before his eyes what he wants to receive from the study, that the study will impart greatness and importance of the Creator. Also, while observing the Mitzvot, not to forget the intention that thanks to observing the Mitzvot, the Creator will lift the concealment on spirituality from him and he will receive a feeling of the greatness of the Creator.

However, it is hard work observing Torah and Mitzvot with the intention to thereby be rewarded with approaching the Creator—to obtain the greatness of the Creator so he can bring Him contentment because of the importance of the Creator, that this will be his reward and he has no desire for any other reward for his work. The body does not agree to work with this intention.

The holy Zohar (Nasso, items 102-104) says, “Mighty men roam from city to city and are not pardoned. The mixed-multitude ban them among them, and in many places they are given only rations. Thus, there were will be no rise to their fall, not even momentarily. And all the sages and mighty men who fear sin are afflicted, pressed and in grief. They are regarded as dogs, children weighed against fine gold, how they are regarded as clay jars out on every street, etc. These mixed-multitude are rich, peaceful, joyous, without sorrow or affliction whatsoever, robbers and bribers; they are the judges, the heads of the people.”

We see in these words of The Zohar that it distinguishes between sages and mighty men who fear sin, and judges and the heads of the people, who are regarded as the mixed-multitude. He says that the sages and the mighty men who fear sin are afflicted and stressed, while the judges and the heads of the people are rich, peaceful, and joyous. Why? Because they are the mixed-multitude.

We should understand the meaning of mixed-multitude, that because they are the mixed-multitude they have joy and peace. We see that in the argument that Jacob had with Esau, Esau said to Jacob, I have enough, and Jacob replied, “I have everything.” We need to understand the difference between enough and everything.

It is known that the Sefira Yesod is called “everything,” that it is regarded as Yesod Tzadik [righteous], as we say in the prayer, “To You, Lord, is the greatness, the might, the grandeur, eternity, and splendor.” It is so because “everything” is Yesod, and righteous, called Yesod, only gives. The Sefira Yesod gives to Malchut, as it is known, and as it is written in the holy Zohar. This means that the degree of Yesod is Tzadik, who takes nothing for himself, but all his works are in order to bestow.

Certainly, when a person begins to work on being righteous, meaning not to receive any reward for himself and work only in order to bestow contentment upon his Maker, the body disagrees and gives him obstructions. It does everything it can to interfere with his work. At that time a person is constantly afflicted and has no peace with the situation he is in because he sees that he has not yet come to be a giver upon the Creator. Rather, everything he does is still without the ability to direct it in order to bestow.

He is always afflicted over it because of the sorrow of the Shechina, called “Shechina in exile.” He is in pain that for self-love he has the strength to work, but where he sees that his will to receive will not have anything, he is negligent in the work.

It follows after some time of exerting in the work and wanting to see some closeness to the Creator, he feels each time more of the truth about him: that he is truly remote from Dvekut [adhesion] with the Creator. That is, with respect to equivalence of form, as in, “As He is merciful, you, too, are merciful,” he is the opposite. Previously he thought that he wanted to bring contentment to the Creator and that there will be some joy in this. He hoped that he would receive for his work the reward of this world, as well as the reward of the next world. But now he sees that he is powerless to work for the Creator, but it is all in order to receive for himself, and not at all to bestow.

What he sees now is that he is worse than when he started the work. When he began to work in the third kind, he had joy and peace because he knew and believed that each day his possessions were accumulating into a great amount, since each day when he does good deeds, the reward of each Mitzva is registered to his account. That faith caused him joy and peace because he saw that he was advancing in the work, meaning that his possessions were growing each and every day.

But now that he has moved from the third kind and has begun the work of the fourth kind, which is work not in order to receive reward, he is afflicted and pressed because he is examining himself with vessels of bestowal how much he has already acquired of this Kli.

At that time he sees the opposite, that each day as he exerts and wants to achieve closeness to the Creator, meaning to have a desire to bestow, he sees the truth, that each day he is growing more distant. According to what Baal HaSulam said, why does one see that he is growing more distant, since each day he is doing good deeds, and accordingly, the deeds should have brought him closer?

Our sages said, “I have created the evil inclination, I have created the Torah as a spice.” Therefore, why does one who begins to work in bestowal see that he is growing worse each day? He says that it is not so, that in truth, he is not regressing each day as he thinks. Rather, each day he is moving forward. The reason he sees that he has become worse is that first one needs to see the falsehood and the evil, and then it is possible to correct them.

But when a person simply wants to block a hole or a crack in a building, and thinks that the hole and the crack are twenty centimeters long, and he works and toils, and finally sees that there are twenty more centimeters to block, it follows that as long as he does not see the real deficiency he is working in vain, meaning he is not correcting anything.

The lesson is that one thinks he has, for example, one kilogram of evil, and wants to fix it. He begins to fix, but then sees that there is another kilogram of evil. It follows that he has not corrected anything. But if he sees the full measure of evil in him, and then fixes it, this is called “complete correction.”

This is why Baal HaSulam said that each day when he engages in work in order to bestow he draws closer to the truth, meaning to see the amount of evil in him. In a dark house it is impossible to see that there are dirt and garbage there. But if you bring some light inside then you can see that there are dirt and garbage.

Similarly, when a person begins to engage in Torah and Mitzvot in bestowal, the Torah and Mitzvot illuminate for him more each time, to see the truth about the measure of evil in him. It therefore follows that each day he is moving forward until he reaches the complete evil within him. Then, when he begins to correct, a complete correction is made, so that afterwards he can put in his Kelim [vessels] the delight and pleasure that the Creator contemplated giving to the creatures, as it is written that the purpose of creation is to do good to His creations.

We find this matter in the exodus from Egypt. The holy ARI said that at the time of the exodus from Egypt, Israel were in 49 gates of Tuma’a [impurity], until the King of Kings appeared to them and redeemed them. Everyone asks about this: Can it be that the people of Israel, who heard of the mission of the Creator from Moses and Aaron, whom He sent to deliver from the exile in Egypt, as the holy ARI interprets, that the exile in Egypt means that the view of Kedusha [holiness/sanctity] was in exile. Moses and Aaron promised the people of Israel that they would come out of exile and enter the Kedusha. It is as we say in the Shema [Hear] reading, “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out from the land of Egypt to be your God.”

Accordingly, it stands to reason that each day they should have risen from degree to degree in Kedusha, especially that they saw the ten plagues that occurred in Egypt. Still, the holy ARI says that at the time of the exodus from Egypt the people of Israel were in 49 gates of Tuma’a.

However, each day they ascended in the degree of truth and came closer to seeing the measure of evil that they had in the vessels of reception. That is, before Moses and Aaron came to tell them that they must come out of the exile in Egypt, which is the Klipa [shell/peel] that suckles from the Kedusha, as the holy ARI says, the people of Israel began to move away from them. At that time the Klipa of Egypt began to fight them with powerful forces.

That is, the Klipa of Egypt let the people of Israel see that it was not worth it to exit self-reception. And concerning the work of bestowal, they let them see that it is difficult and not worth it to work for nothing, that they would not be rewarded with it anyway, since it requires special forces. And the more the people of Israel received strengthening from Moses and Aaron, the more the Klipa of Egypt came and weakened them.

It was so much so that each time they overcame the argument of the Egyptians that came into their minds, so they would see that it was not the argument of Egypt, but that the people of Israel would think that these thoughts are their own. This is called “Anyone who is greater than his friend, his desire is greater than him.”

It means that to the extent of their strengthening in Kedusha, to that extent the Klipot strengthened against them. To the extent of the power of the desire to escape, to that extent the other side must show more power so as to keep him in his domain, so he will not escape.

It turns out that in fact, the people of Israel drew closer to Kedusha each day, and the evidence of this is that if it is said that they were in 49 gates of Tuma’a, it is because that they have already ascended the 49 gates of Kedusha, hence there had to be the opposite of Kedusha, the 49 gates of Tuma’a.

However, before a person completes the work and comes out of the domain of the Klipot [shells/peels], he does not see the measure of his entrance into Kedusha. All he sees is that each time he is farther away because the opposite of Kedusha reveals the evil in him. Before there is light of Kedusha, a person cannot see the real form of evil in him. As said above, precisely where there is light we can see the dirt that is in the house.

It follows that one cannot know what he can regard as a good state. That is, it might be that a person feels that he is in a descent, meaning that he sees that he has no desire for Torah and Mitzvot. He sees that now he has more passion for self-love than, for example, yesterday. Thus, a person should probably say that yesterday he was in a state where he regarded people who were concerned with corporeal means, with satisfying their will to receive, he stayed away from them and could not see intelligent grown-ups degrading themselves into being in such a lowly state.

But now he sees that he is one of them and he has no shame in feeling his lowliness. Rather, it is an ordinary thing for him, as though he never thought about spirituality. To understand it better, let us take for example, when a person must get up before dawn. When he is awakened by the alarm clock or by a person, he feels that he must rise to serve the Creator. He begins to feel the importance of the matter, and therefore rises quickly because the sensation of the importance of serving the Creator gives him strength to get up quickly.

Undoubtedly, at that time he is in a state of ascent. That is, it is not corporeality that gives him strength to work, but to him the spirituality, his feeling that now he will have contact with the Creator, in whatever manner, is enough to give him strength to work, and he does not think of anything but the Creator. He feels that now he is regarded as alive, but without spirituality he is regarded as dead. Naturally, he feels that he is in a state of ascent.

In truth, a person cannot determine his state, that he feels he is remote. That is, if he is a person who wishes to walk on the path of bestowal, he must understand that from above he is given a special treatment, that he was lowered from the previous state so he would begin to really contemplate the goal, meaning what is required of man and what man wants the Creator to give him. But when he is in a state of ascent, when he has desire for Torah and Mitzvot, he has no need to worry about spirituality. Instead, he sees that he will stay this way his whole life because he is happy this way.

It therefore follows that the descent he has received is for his own good, meaning that he is receiving special treatment, that he was lowered from his state where he thought that he had some wholeness. This is apparent in his agreeing to remain in the current state his whole life.

But now that he sees that he is far from spirituality, he begins to think, “What is really required of me? What should I do? What is the purpose I should achieve?” He sees that he has no power to work, and finds himself in a state of “between heaven and earth.” Then, man’s only strengthening is that only the Creator can help, but by himself, he is doomed.

It was said about this (Isaiah, 4:31): “Yet those who hope for the Lord will gain new strength,” meaning those people who hope for the Creator. This means that they who see that there is no one else in the world who can help them regain strength each time. It follows that this descent is actually an ascent, meaning that this descent that they feel allows them to rise in degree, since “there is no light without a Kli.”

It follows that when he thought that he was in a state of ascent, he had no desire in which the Creator to place anything, since his Kli was full and there was no room to put anything inside. But now that he feels he is in a state of descent, he begins to see his deficiencies and the main reasons that interrupt his achieving Dvekut with the Creator. At that time he knows what help to ask of the Creator because he sees the truth, the real obstructer.

According to the above, one cannot say that the Creator has driven him away from the work of the Creator. The proof of this is that he is in a state of descent, meaning that the Creator has thrown him out from the work and does not want him to work for Him. This is not so. On the contrary, because the Creator wants to bring him closer, when he felt that he was in ascent, He could not bring him closer because he had no Kelim.

In order to give him Kelim, the Creator had to bring him out of his state, and admit him into a state where he feels deficient. Then the Creator can give him help from above, as our sages said, “He who comes to purify is aided. The holy Zohar asks, ‘With what?’ And he replies, ‘With a holy soul.’” That is, he is being made to feel that the soul is a part of God above, and then he enters the Kedusha. At that time he can go from degree to degree until he completes his soul with respect to what it needs to correct.

It therefore follows that in the first kind, the reason and the cause for observing Torah and Mitzvot is people from the outside. In the second kind, the Creator, along with people from the outside, commit him to Torah and Mitzvot. In the third kind, only the Creator commits to observing Torah and Mitzvot. People on the outside do not commit him, but he himself also causes Torah and Mitzvot. In the fourth kind, only the Creator is the cause for observing Torah and Mitzvot, and there is no other partner who partakes in committing him to Torah and Mitzvot. This is called “for the Lord alone,” and this is called “mixed-multitude inside the Kedusha.”

M. Laitman: (01:08:26) Any questions? 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:08:41) Good Shabbat, peaceful Shabbat for everyone, friends in the world here. It's tiring, but very beautiful, very succinct, and there's a question that he brings up in the text. It says there's only one advice, to try to attain the greatness of the Creator, meaning all that we engage in Torah and Mitzvot, we want our reward to be feeling the greatness of the Creator. The question is asked, how can you feel the greatness of the Creator when we still haven't attained Him? What we read here, what I understood is how do we attain the greatness of the Creator so that we can work with Him like he says without a reward. This can be elaborated on.

M. Laitman: From any other source, a different one, it doesn't matter which one, from which you can obtain even a little bit of the greatness of the Creator, you have to collect these impressions and connect them and become impressed by them.

Student: Tell me if I'm wrong, there is a collection of advice here and there's a problem because he wrote a lot of advice, but as soon as I hear one counsel, I go to another one, I then go then to another one. Why, do you know why?

M. Laitman: It is natural, because you become incorporated in the things that he's talking about, and then you don't see anything else besides where you're in now and what you're impressed by.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:10:55) There's a sentence we know that says that the paths of the Creator are hidden and the righteous will prevail, and the wicked will fall in them.  My question is, why do we have to feel like we're bringing contentment to the Creator? Why can't we do this because it's a commandment of the Creator?

M. Laitman: Feeling contentment is also a commandment.

Student: That we have to enjoy it, we have to, we say we have to bring Him contentment basically by observing his commandments?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:12:00) Good morning, everyone, and to you Rav. It's a wonderful article that really gets us closer to reach the greatness of the Creator but he says that during an ascent a person is willing to stay there and then seemingly, the Creator pushes him away so that he makes this scrutiny. The question is, how do you then hold on to the greatness of the Creator, specifically in that place where you maybe even want to run away from the work? Of course it increases the deficiency to bestow, but how do you then hold on to the greatness of the Creator? 

M. Laitman: Precisely out of that, that we want to get closer, we feel far away. So from these changes in our measurement of the distance, we do get closer. We do attain to something and it's opposite. 

Student: What you say is, in the opposite state it's very hard to do this, that you need something in that moment that will give that or our memory of the previous state. 

M. Laitman: In all of the states in which we operate in our life, this is how we attain the matter, like feeling it and its opposite and then comparing between them. This is how we are built, this is how our will to receive is able to measure where it is. 

Student: That's in the condition that there's a measurement tool, right? He came to a state where he entered a place of bestowal because until then this doesn't have measurements to measure with.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:14:34) He also writes about the greatness of the Creator, that the importance of the King is measured in a person to the extent that he enjoys serving the King because the more important the King is, his pleasure is greater.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: We know that we have an ability to serve the Creator through the Ten. Actually, the Ten was given that through them we can serve the Creator, so that means that if the Creator is great in my eyes or not. Is it correct to say that the Ten is great in my eyes or not, that I have importance for the Ten because they are the vessel that through them I can serve the Creator, so that's the relation I'm supposed to have?

M. Laitman: Yes, if you arrange it this way.

Student: How, if a person wants to increase his relation towards the Ten that they will be great in his eyes, what's the advice?

M. Laitman: Invest in it as much strength as he has to put in and to ask the Creator to let him see the friends on such a high degree, so he would feel that he is the smallest, he depends on them and so on and so forth.

Student: What does he depend on in the Ten, what should they be for him?

M. Laitman: In the Ten he builds himself to feel the Creator correctly in order to bow down before Him.

Student: What can the Ten do to every friend so their value will rise before every Ten? What's the advice for a Ten?

M. Laitman: Everyone needs to be impressed by one another.

Student: How can the Ten make a friend get an impression, is there something practical we can do?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: What?

M. Laitman: How do we do it in our lives?

Student: I believe that we're giving an opportunity to someone to perform an action, and then he feels the value of the one who asked him to do something through actions.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: The Ten has to demand a Ten to perform actions?

M. Laitman: Yes, the Ten must demand from each and every friend to do such actions so in total they will be impressed, they will have this impression from all the friends. 

Student: We know, we read for many years, each one knows what we need to do, what actions, and when a person finds himself not able, it's not important to do these actions. Should he come and ask from the Ten for help? 

M. Laitman: Yes. We should demand the Ten to give him the greatness of the Creator. That's really the duty of the Ten toward each and every friend in it. 

Student: Last question, a person comes and demands from the Ten, give me the ability to see you as great, something like that let's say, right? 

M. Laitman: Yes, let's say. 

Student: Just to demand in those words, how does it happen? 

M. Laitman: What do you mean, how does it happen? 

Student: When a person comes and says listen friends, I'm demanding of you more greatness, to see you greater, I want to…just like that, to ask for it? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And that works?

M. Laitman: It has to be this way, otherwise why do I need a Ten, why do I need a Ten for?

Student: If I have a demand from the Ten, so where's my responsibility here?

M. Laitman: That's your responsibility when you awaken yourself, to demand from the Ten pressure, the greatness of the Creator, everything they can provide you with.

Student: Is that right to say that if I demand from the Ten, to that extent they become important to me because I'm already in a demand?

M. Laitman: Of course, because without the greatness of the Creator that you will receive from the Ten, you're lost.

Student: Yes, thank you.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:20:41) On one hand I get greatness of the Creator from the Ten, I get inspired by the friends. On the other hand I recognize that in a lot of actions I do them to get respect, I'm embarrassed not to come on time. On one hand, the Ten lifts you, on the other hand, it's as if they bring me back to the state that I don't work for the Creator. 

M. Laitman: Wherever you can't work in any other way, the Ten will pressure you through your ego.

Student: What do I have to demand in those states, I have to hope that it changes?

M. Laitman: To ask, to pray, to connect to the Ten, to use whatever means you have in order to be connected to them in such a way that will advance you. 

Question (Latin 1): (01:21:50) What does it mean to keep Torah and Mitzvot in the Ten and what is the connection between the advice and the deposits, the commands and the deposits?

M. Laitman: We'll learn about that. You have to find the source material for it. Sure, Pekudin and Eitin and deposits and devices are all the commandments. We have to find explanations for it, it's not just something you say in one line.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:22:45) He talks about two parameters here, that there's like combinations of four states between them. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: That one is who are you working for, either the Creator or anyone else. Second is what is the reward you want, either for yourself or to give contentment to the Creator. In development we learn that there's always motion between those states, it's not constant. Once it's this, that, you're always moving back and forth through all these states because otherwise you can't advance, even if you reach the last state. What will help you keep going? The question is, if there are aspirations, should that just be to always be in the final state, that we only see the Creator before us and the reward is greatness of the Creator and that's it?

M. Laitman: We have to see this state as this fourth state. After all the previous states, after I go through the first, second, third state, and fourth state, then I come to it.

Student: Let's say when we're working in the Ten, we can recognize all the states there. 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: There has to be a spirit in the Ten that we're aspiring to always reach the fourth state, so there's what we recognize and what we want to reach, right? 

M. Laitman: Yes, it's the difference between the desirable and what's present.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:24:50) He writes that we need to ask for, there's only one advice, to ask for greatness of the Creator. In other articles he writes that there's one advice, to ask for a deficiency to bestow. I always wanted to ask, what's the connection between those two requests or maybe it's the same request. What comes first, what comes later, or first it's a deficiency to bestow, then the greatness of the Creator, or maybe the opposite?

M. Laitman: I didn't understand.

Student: He wrote here that there's only one advice: to try and attain greatness of the Creator. That everything we do in the Torah and commandments, we want our reward to be to feel the greatness of the Creator.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: In other places he writes that everything we need to ask for is a deficiency for the quality of bestowal, that that's going to be what we're lacking and that will help us advance in spirituality. I can't connect between the greatness of the Creator to a deficiency to bestow, when to ask for this, when to ask for that?

M. Laitman: We always need to see the greatness of the Creator and here the question is: Do we need Him in order to reach the goal or is that going to be the goal in and of itself?

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:27:16) First of all I must share my gratitude that every morning it's like a miracle with the Rabash. He writes here about the transition from the third to the fourth type. That now when he went from the third kind, and he started working in the fourth kind, which is in order not to receive a reward. He's in great sorrow because he checks himself through the vessel of bestowal. How much he attained of that vessel, and he sees the opposite. That, every day that he invests forces and wants to reach the greatness of the Creator to have a desire to bestow. Then, he sees the truth, how every day he just keeps moving backward. In that state, why should a person keep going ahead, what shines upon him? 

M. Laitman: He knows what he has to attain and he sees that he's going in the opposite direction, yes? 

Student: Yes, but what do you mean he sees it's all in his feelings? He has no fulfillment, nothing's shining for him.

M. Laitman: Yes, so what should he do? 

Student: I'm asking in this intersection, in this crossroads, when a person invests and invests. He sees that he's not getting a vessel of bestowal, he's not revealing the Creator, that, that is his purpose. Why should he keep going to the fourth state, and not just take a U-turn, and go to a place where he does find fulfillment? What makes him go to the fourth state, what shines from ahead? 

M. Laitman: The fact that he studies, that he has a group. He hears that he has to reach the goal. 

Student: Like habits, that's what's going to give a person the forces to keep going? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: Alright, so now I want to continue the friend’s question: A person invests in the Ten, he works, he hears what his teachers tell him. He does everything he should, and what he discovers is that his friends are small. He disregards them and he's greater than them. Then here in this revelation, he has to ask for a correction for his attitude, right?

M. Laitman: Well, that is easy to say.

Student: What is that correction, how do I know that this correction, let's say I feel sorry that this is how the Creator is showing me the friends. That sorrow, that sensation, that's enough for the Creator to correct anything in my attitude or should it be my active action?

M. Laitman: It depends but you are speaking of unreal states. 

Student: Why?

M. Laitman: Because if that is revealed to a person in this way, then it is revealed. He is already drawn forward with this flow.

Student: What flow?

M. Laitman: That is how the Creator is showing it to him, that is how he accepts everything.

Student: That's what I'm asking, he's not accepting it this way, I'm speaking really from the work in the Ten. There are friends that this is how they see the state. Here, I hear you telling the friend to demand of the friends that they will do one, two, three, four, because otherwise you won't have the forces. On the other hand, when you demand from the friends, I don't know, there's like a, you have to be more precise in the work in the Ten. Especially in the state we're in, that we're about to be independent in the work in the Ten, and that's our source of energy, that's what it should be. On one hand, to demand of them, on the other hand, if you're demanding is so you move yourself away because nobody enjoys hearing that, and you're so dependent on them. There are a lot of things here.

M. Laitman: I do not get your confusion. 

Student: When I'm talking, I feel I'm confused. Maybe we could put in, make an order of the work in the Ten. What can I demand, what I can't? What's the correction I need the Creator to do on me in the Ten?

M. Laitman: You have asked the Ten on that?

Student: They don't like that I asked that from them. I probably don't know how to ask. 

M. Laitman: So what do you want then? In other words, you have no question, nothing's bothering you.

Student: I would like all my friends to be in the morning lesson, all the time. Because I know that if they won't be, so I'll gradually start disregarding it, and I won't come. I'd like them to come to our meetings that we keep. If they don't show up, they should let us know. I'd like a lot of things that I would like and they don't want these things. When I demand these things, they don't take it as something good. It distances us from one another.

M. Laitman: And you keep all those things, you observe them. 

Student: I try.

M. Laitman: Try is not.

Student: Yes, I do, I perform all those things. 

M. Laitman: Okay, and you demand only those things that you, yourself, are observing? 

Student: What we decided as a Ten to do.

M. Laitman: And what about those things that you decided and you yourself are not observing?

Student: I don't think there are such things. Maybe in the inner work, love of friends. 

M. Laitman: Clear, so, friends do not want to reply to your words about advancing, connecting, or rising. 

Student: It's not that, I'm just trying to see if it helps the connection between me and the friends and I see it doesn't. For years, it distances us: I demand, and in the end, it separates, it doesn't connect, and there's also a danger of it becoming indifferent. So, he comes, he comes, if he doesn't come, he doesn't. The Creator put me in a Ten with him. Anyway, this is a confusion. 

M. Laitman: You have answers? 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:34:03) I can ask about it, maybe it'll help scrutinize it. 

M. Laitman: Ask. 

Student: I have great friends in the Ten, who give a lot of examples in their actions. I see a very big gap between what they do and me. I never ask them, demand in a clear external way out loud. On the other hand, it's always felt in me that they have an inner demand that shakes me up. That I must be like them, is that the demand? Is it enough that internally we feel it? Because I always feel that this demand shakes me up on where I am, and how I have to be like them. Should we express it on the outside or is that such a demand?

M. Laitman: You did not answer, you asked the question.

Student: Yes, I'm asking because it sounds like it's a demand. I'm asking if that's a demand. 

M. Laitman: A demand can take place inside a person's heart. Now, how does a person relate to it, how does he correct this demand? 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:35:25) The Creator created one against the other. When we advance on the path the deficiency grows, then there are new discernments, there's a new darkness. When a friend started the complaint before it, he said, how beautiful the article is, it's a salvation for the point in the heart. This is how we advance, our prayer focuses. Our discernments become more and more strong, precise. One against the other, both exist, the deficiency and the Creator, they both grow.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:36:29) The way I found to cope with it is not to complain to the friends. Whatever I'm lacking, I ask from the Creator, and I try to show an example. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:36:51) The previous friend, and all of us, from what he asked, we see we have criticism of our work. There are all kinds of discernments from it, like renewing the covenant on a higher degree, and speaking of the greatness of the Creator. Or do we just let our emotions lead us without obligating ourselves to actions of one thing from the other? Otherwise, we start drying out. 

M. Laitman: Everyone wants to speak. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:37:55) Two weeks ago, I asked you this question, what a friend started. You said, I can't demand, I'm not the landlord of the Ten. I listened to your advice and I just kept giving an example, and asking the Creator. I want to tell the friends, the state has changed completely. I thought I can demand from the friends but I guess that just to give the example, that's what I felt in the Ten. To keep giving an example for the friends to do everything you can, and ask of the Creator.

M. Laitman: Clear. 

Student: (01:38:45) Two things, one: if the friend doesn't feel a demand, it means that he's not investing in the Ten? 

M. Laitman: Possible, it is possible. 

Student: Because, otherwise, how can I feel anything if I don't give anything? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: My question is, through the article, he says usually you work because you like the reward and not the Creator. How do you exchange those two? 

M. Laitman: Well, it depends on my state, that is how I feel it. 

Student: It's a state that's dynamic and keeps changing? 

M. Laitman: If it keeps changing, yes. 

Student: It has to remain permanent in the end?

M. Laitman:  It is in some place, yes, some point. 

Student: If it should be permanent, what I'm confused with is first he starts speaking about fear. That, you should work from the fear of him being great, that's the only fear, then you're in Lishma. Then he says that you're stealing a little something because it's a bit of honor, and a bit of pride. Then you discover that you're not working for the love of the Creator but for that pride. How do I use fear correctly that it will become fear of love of the Creator and not that my will to receive will steal something? That he wants some kind of other reward.

M. Laitman: That is a question, keep thinking. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:40:46) I also want to thank the Rabash, we must thank him for writing what the internal work is. I agree that the states keep changing, but there's one thing that doesn't change, at least for me. It's the intention always comes after the fact. The more and more I feel that I'm a result of some force and as a result, I can never put the intention before an action. There's a feeling that the war is always on the intention. I'm asking, is it even possible to put an intention before an act, and not after? 

M. Laitman: The intention has to be there all the time. And then you are looking for whichever action that you can attach to it.

Student: Why do I always fall, it's always the opposite? 

M. Laitman: It is in order to teach you, so you will change more and more. It is all to your benefit.

Student: How do I change, what do I do? I ask from the friends to pray for me, I pray for myself?

M. Laitman: Turn to the Creator even to ask for advice on that matter. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:42:30) In the article, he wrote that Esau said, I have a Rav, and Yaakov answered, I have a voice, I have it all, I have everything. What does it mean that Esau said, I have the most, and Yaakov said, I have everything? Can we say that it's like the friends in society?

M. Laitman: Yes, you can say that to some extent. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:43:14) It seems that only children can work with no reward. You tell them what to do, they do it happily, so the parents will be happy, their friends. We, for years, were only working for reward. Now, when the point of the heart awakened, it's as if we have to go back and become children. There's nobody to command from above, it's like the vessel isn't aimed. We want to work without a reward but, somehow, we have to become kids again. Is that right? 

M. Laitman: No, it is much higher than that.

Student: What does that mean? 

M. Laitman: Work without a reward is the highest form of work.

Student: Children can work with no reward. 

M. Laitman: Why without a reward, they have a natural feeling of connection, that they need it, and so on and so forth. They do not work against their will to receive.

Student: They don't feel they have a will to receive.

M. Laitman: Okay, that is fine, you also have that. And if, in the future, you will have such a feeling, you will work simply.

Student: So it's a lot higher than that. Yes.

M. Laitman: Okay. It was such a long article. We spent almost two hours on it.

Reader: (01:45:00) It was an hour and five minutes of reading. 

M. Laitman: What do you mean about an hour? Hour and ten minutes. 

Reader: We read for an hour and ten minutes. Since then, for thirty-five minutes, we're asking questions. There's also the world Kli who want to ask. 

Question (Moscow): (01:45:42) The third part of the article he writes, that when a person believes there is a kilo of the will to receive, he starts correcting it. Then he sees that there's another kilo, so it turns out he didn't correct anything. If a person sees all the evil in him, it means he ended his correction. How can that be, that a person sees all the evil in him and that's the corrected state?

M. Laitman: Because you came to a place where you see the truth. That your ego fills you a hundred percent.

Student: We're saying that the ascent takes place on the degrees. Each time we discover a bit of evil, we correct a bit more, and discover more. Or I didn't understand something. 

M. Laitman: Yes, that is how it happens.

Student: Here he writes that only under the condition that you see all the evil in you, how can that be? 

M. Laitman: You see what you see and you see only the evil, what is the problem? In any given moment. 

Student: All the evil is under a certain case, in the end, he speaks about the third kind. That the Creator obligates a person, sometimes the person is the reason for the keeping of the commandments. What does that mean, that man himself? I can be the reason that obligates me if it all comes from the Creator?

M. Laitman: No, what we see through a person, what we see through a person.

Question (Moscow): (01:48:17) After reading, when we started asking questions, I want to ask about demanding from the Ten. It seems that there's room for development here but it's very delicate because I have to check myself before I demand from the friends. What should I rely on, should I check if I don't have spies inside me that want to check what's in the friends? Another thing: The fact that I always have to justify the friends and see them as great, I can just get stuck here. What point should I demand the greatness from them, how to go through all these scrutinies?

M. Laitman: I cannot tell you, there are all kinds you have to try. And gradually you will acquire your own approach, your own scrutinies, there is nothing you can do about it.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:50:05) What about when a person works, when the people obligate him? I don't see in Rabash articles that he ever writes that a person works from his Rav obligating him, where does that happen? From respect to the Rav, from appreciating your teacher, where is that, that obligation?

M. Laitman: I don't know. Typically, Rav is the Creator.

Student: Let's say I look at you, I'm more in my eyes, so I see that you're working because of your teacher, that's the most outstanding thing about you, let's say. I'm asking, what's the role of the teacher in obligating a person to reach a bestowal? 

M. Laitman: I don't think we should scrutinize it, it's only going to be a place for confusion, only a source of confusion. I do what I have to do, as much as I can in order to pass you the material and that's what I'm trying to do. 

Student: What's the right attitude towards the teacher because I feel that most of the path, I feel an obligation from you, that's what I feel on myself. How to use the teacher in the right way? 

M. Laitman: Just scrutinize what's not so clear from the text. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:52:08) The article is very detailed but in the end he summarizes it to the four states. Simple question, but what is that work in Torah and Mitzvot that he's talking about? 

M. Laitman: Observing Torah and Mitzvot, commandments. 

Student: There has to be a difference in each and every state in that work.

M. Laitman: There has to be a difference in what work? 

Student: He says that there is a work in Torah and Mitzvot and every time there's like a different motivation that motivates you in that work, so there has to be a difference in the work itself, right? 

M. Laitman: Each time you understand it a little differently compared to what you're demanded of, what you're obligated to do.

Student: A question, and is there a difference in the Ten? 

M. Laitman: Also from within the Ten, as a result of our entire lives. We don't know exactly where it's stemming from but each and every moment that we have changes and we sometimes begin to feel them and try to arrange ourselves relative to them, that's how we act.

Student: From the point of view of the deficiency in the Ten, relative to each and every friend, I think that we are at a point where we can see the greatness of each and every friend. We can already detect the arguments, the complaints against the friend, which is me. The question is, what is the Ten that obligates a person? That's not felt so much, that there are complaints relative to that. The greatness of the Creator depends on that, on the upholding of the Ten, this entity that obligates a person, that he feels that there's something that obligates him.

M. Laitman: Yes, we need to connect to the Ten, and turn to the Creator from behalf of the Ten.

Student: The question is, it's certain that we need, but how can we make it happen? I can't make complaints against the friends. I want it to happen, but how does it happen? 

M. Laitman: No, no, you all need to demand it of yourselves and in this way together, try to connect and turn to the Creator.

Student: What can I do to make that happen?

M. Laitman: Awaken the friends, and everyone needs to connect and turn to the Creator. Otherwise, how else can you do it? One can't do it, two can't do it, nine can't do it, Ten can do it. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:55:40) The transition between the states comes from above? One to two, three to four? 

M. Laitman: Yes, yes.

Student: It reminds me of something else in the work which is the first state. When you work in the Ten as the friends say, the Ten obligates me to work, a friend said out of shame, out of..?

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: Just wait for something to change me from state one to two?

M. Laitman: No, no, work with all the friends. Before you in the Ten you have nine examples. Connect to each and every example and then you'll see what pace you get. 

Student: What does it mean in the work in the Ten, the third state, where people from the outside are not that important but the Creator is?

M. Laitman: The third state, that only the Creator is obligating to perform the Torah and Mitzvot. 

Student: Yes, so what about the friends?

M. Laitman: The Creator is obligating us. We need to pay attention to Him and to try and keep the Torah and Mitzvot because it's the upper commandment. 

Student: Meaning he doesn't need any influence from the Ten in that state?

M. Laitman: The people on the outside don't belong to this.

Student: No, no, not others, I'm talking about the person in the third state. He doesn't require outside influence from his friends in the Ten, he works relative to the Creator?

M. Laitman: He works before the Creator. He Himself causes the Torah and Mitzvot that's written. 

Student: What about the friends, what about the Ten in that time, what is the work with them? 

M. Laitman: We keep going, each and every one. When He says, when he talks about one person, that means everyone. 

Student: The whole Ten?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Oh, there are no individuals at that point. 

M. Laitman: No individuals because they have connection with the Creator. He obligates them to perform the Torah and Mitzvot, that's in the third state.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:58:10) In the end, everything the Creator does to us as individuals and as a Ten, He does it in the end so we will turn to Him? Is that the only reason He does anything? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: If that's the case, I'm sitting in a restaurant, I'm ordering some food, I don't get exactly what I ordered. I come, I demand, I say, it's not right, throw this out, change my dish. Why as a Ten, as individuals, when we invest and we do the work, when we ask and we don't get what we need, what we asked, we don't go to the Host, to the Creator and demand? Why is it not natural to demand of Him? 

M. Laitman: From the Creator?

Student: Yes. 

M. Laitman: Why natural? Very natural, turn to Him.

Student: Why in the end, people made all kinds of claims but the claims are toward Him, not toward the friends? It's toward the Creator, we should demand it of Him?

M. Laitman: That's our development on the fourth degree, that we turn to the Creator. 

Student: We need to come to a state like a little child who can do nothing, no action without his parents. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: We have to reach such a feeling that no action, it doesn't matter what it is, you cannot do it without the Creator's help, we have to come to that?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: How do we come to such a feeling, how do we come to such a state, because in big things, we do it. The Creator arranges a state that you can't handle, you turn to Him like a child, but in everyday situations we think that we can do it alone but you say no, we can't. 

M. Laitman: Read those four degrees and we'll see, I don't know what you want, they cover everything for you.  All right, what are we doing next mister?

Reader: We have Exile and Redemption or the second commentary on the exodus from Egypt, from the Gate of Intentions. So Exile and Redemption or the Gate of Intentions? 

M. Laitman: Exile and Redemption, where are we in it?

Reader: From the beginning.  

M. Laitman: Beginning, so let's read that.

Reader: Okay. Let's go to the next part of the lesson.