Daily LessonJul 3, 2024(Morning)

Part 1 Baal HaSulam. The Last Generation

Baal HaSulam. The Last Generation

Jul 3, 2024
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Daily Lesson (Morning), July 3, 2024. 

Part 1: Baal HaSulam. The Last Generation, Part 1, Titled Appendices and Drafts, Section 5. 

Reader: (00:03) Hello, we are reading from the writings of Baal HaSulam, page 830 in the Hebrew version, the Writings Of The Last Generation. We are in Part One, titled Appendices and Drafts, section 5. You can find the study material on the website at kabbalahgroup.info and on the Arvut system and there you can ask questions during the live broadcast. Here in the study hall, anyone who wants to ask a question. When you're allowed to speak, you can stand up, hold the mic close to the mouth, and speak concisely and clearly. The writings of Baal HaSulam, the writings of the last generation, section 5. 

Reading: (00:51) The terms bourgeois and proletariat are no longer sufficient to explain history. Instead, it should be divided into a class of diligent and a class of stragglers. 

M. Laitman: And that's because we also see that an opportunity is given to everyone in some shape and form. Now, that's why you can't say that those who are bourgeois or proletariat as it used to be that it was given by birth and that's the same in today's society. Rather, the diligence and the stragglers says more about how everyone has the opportunity to benefit their situation. And there are some cases where the stragglers and the diligence are both working in society, each one for themselves. 

Reading: (02:25) It is a natural law that the class of the diligent will exploit the class of stragglers, like fish at sea where the strong swallows the weak. It makes no difference if the diligent are bourgeois or functionaries of the communist government. Rather, the question is, how much freedom and enjoyment do they leave for the stragglers? 

M. Laitman: Yes, no questions. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (03:14) What, in any case, is the essence of this inequivalence that no matter what you have, you have these diligent and stragglers? What is the cause of that? 

M. Laitman: The Creator made everyone unequal, no one is equal to another. Therefore, every moment, as the external circumstances change, then each and every one, according to their egoistic desire, can see whether it's more or less of an opportunity for him to take advantage. 

Student: Yes, but what is the essence of that? Why is it that way? 

M. Laitman: This was given for society to evolve more according to everyone's individual egoistic desire. And ultimately, when they overcome, afterwards, in the phase of correction, overcoming the egoistic desire, it then helps them go deeper into the laws of creation. 

Student: So, when I look at a human body, it's clear that the hand and the leg are not equal and it's good that they're not equal. But it's not that that's one that is a straggler and one that is diligent. So why is it that way in human society? 

M. Laitman: In the body, you don't have a competition between the parts of the body. In society, you do have a competition between each and every one. 

Student: So, what is the significance of that and where does it head, what does it lead to? 

M. Laitman: It gives each one the opportunity to evolve towards the others. And the status of each and every one can change. But from birth, essentially, everyone is seemingly equal, seemingly. But then when they're born and they begin to see all the differences between them, they begin to appear: The status of the parents, society, whatever each and every one has in their conditioning.

Student: I still don't understand, how is it beneficial for the Creator that there are such diligent and stragglers because it's been like that for tens of thousands of years?

M. Laitman: These scrutinies are until the final Correction, and they have the nature of taking advantage of each and everything for self-benefit. And this competition doesn't end until the end of human development. And ultimately, it provides each and every one with the ability to open up, as much as possible, one's vessels of reception and enjoy the others. And when they connect in such a way, if we can call it connecting, then each of them reveals the egoistic desire of the whole society. And thus, they take advantage of their own nature.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (07:27) The question is how much freedom and enjoyment do they leave for the stragglers? Is that part of the correction? 

M. Laitman: Yes, it's part of the correction.

Student: What does it mean that they leave the enjoyment for the stragglers? How is that expressed? 

M. Laitman: It's expressed in that every person, nevertheless, has the opportunity to change his state. If we can call it his general state within human society, and thus, he connects to all the rest of the created beings, and that's how they all advance. Because that's where there's already an interconnection between them. And each one communicates, transmits, to the others, whether they're aware of it or not, want it or not, they are inevitably incorporated with each other.

Student: I don't know why, but it seems that 99% depend on 10%. 

M. Laitman: Possibly.

Student: That's how it sounds, maybe that's incorrect but that's how it feels, that 10% of the diligent, they hold all the weight of everyone. 

M. Laitman: Yes, yes.

Student: Where is the correction here? How do we bring that to a balance? 

M. Laitman: The correction is not in society, it's not in what we observe. The correction is entirely in the last generation that makes the conclusion from the development of all times. And then human beings see what their development led them to.

Student: Is it correct to say that the diligent, which is what the wisdom of Kabbalah teaches us, not to live according to their mood but to be goal-oriented? 

M. Laitman: Yes, certainly over the course of our development, we change. And we begin to be more calibrated towards the purpose of creation. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (10:24) How is it possible to make it so that in human society, there won't be competition between the diligent and the stragglers. But just like in the body, that it will be harmonious between all the parts of the body? 

M. Laitman: Because the harmony in the body is also relative but it stems from how our body is focused on the future. That is, what pieces and what parts and joints of the body are more important, less important and so forth. In human society, however, there's no one who feels the collective calculation and that's why everyone does what's right in their own eyes. And you can't see the world through the eyes of the others. 

Student: How is it possible for each part to accept the other parts as equal. And they see that everyone exists for the sake of everyone, the whole body, the whole of humanity?

M. Laitman: He doesn't feel a general lack that he has to do something for the general body.

Student: What needs to happen in order to equalize between everyone and to give each one their unique spot in society?

M. Laitman: There has to be a collective feeling; that I feel how I am included in everyone. How I depend on them, and how much I owe them. 

Student: And then if there'll be this collective feeling that will still remain diligent and stragglers? Everyone will understand their place in relation to the collective goal or will there be equivalence among everyone?

M. Laitman: I think it should be equality, and not according to the amount of investment. Rather, the amount of desire depends on the Creator. Therefore, we're not going to be calculating according to the magnitude of desire, who has more and who has less. Rather, how much, to what extent, everyone invests in his conditions. 

Student: So, what exactly is the equality in? 

M. Laitman: Investment.

Student: If I'm a straggler, so until the end of Correction, that's my role in the system. And society will accept me as a straggler?

M. Laitman: No, I don't think you're supposed to be a straggler all the time. Rather, everyone will have a role that he assumes in bestowing to others, as much as he can. And that's why everyone will have an opportunity, just like in a society where everyone is equal in serving the others. 

Student: In a corrected body, are there diligent and stragglers? 

M. Laitman: Relatively.

Student: Okay, if we take it now, not for the last generation but in the current generation. Even in a Kabbalistic society, within it, is there such a division? 

M. Laitman: We don't learn about that. Let's hope that in the near future, we'll know, we'll discover it. That's the Torah of the last generation, we still cannot know.

Student: It seems that you said it once. Everyone has an equal ability to bestow.

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: And that's in the body and in every state. As much as I read, I see I don't understand what's written here because he said the diligent and the straggler. The opposite of diligent is a lazy one. The opposite of a straggler is a successful one. So, what is this measurement of diligent and stragglers? Is it according to the investment? Is it according to the result of their work? Is it according to the quality characteristics they were born with because they're not exactly opposites? 

M. Laitman: Because they complement each other only at the account of the future. Meaning in terms of the goal, to become incorporated in it.

Student: Why should someone who is lazy or a straggler, why should they have enjoyment in life? Maybe it's good that they won't have enjoyment in life, and then they'll want to work more and then succeed more. Because he writes here that the society is measured according to how much freedom and enjoyment they leave for the stragglers. 

M. Laitman: Yes?

Student: So, why is it good to leave enjoyment for the stragglers?

M. Laitman: Well, you can say that different laws already apply. We'll understand it, we'll get it.

Student: You say on calculation of the future?

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: In calculation of the future, it's good if a person feels unsuccessful and then I'll want to be diligent like the diligent, I’ll want to be like them. According to nature, I wasn't given those characteristics, but I'll aspire to do the maximum like they are. It seems like a good place for correction, so why is a good society, if I understood correctly what he's saying, it leaves more freedom and enjoyment for the stragglers? 

M. Laitman: Because ultimately, you still cannot advance without them. To the extent that society as a whole advance to the goal, then the mistakes and the stragglers, they become more conspicuous, they stand out. And they relatively grow in relation to those successful ones.

Student: In a relative manner? 

M. Laitman: Yes. Without it, you can't advance. 

Student: Let's say we take a socialist society in Europe, it's a certain country, of a certain country, it doesn't matter which one. The give wonderful conditions for a person, and they don't force him to work. So, immigrants come over to them, and in the beginning, they work in doing all kinds of agricultural work. And afterwards, they see that they can get holiday after giving birth for four or five years. Then they see that the generality of society, because of many, becomes much more dormant. And it's on the calculation of the diligent. And then the diligent look at that and say, why should we pay taxes, it's not worthwhile for me to do so. Who am I inflating here? And then gradually, that society breaks apart. 

M. Laitman: Correct.

Student: It's not so clear here. Why should we leave freedom and enjoyment for the stragglers? 

M. Laitman: That's nature: There are struggles where the stragglers demand what they seemingly deserve, and so forth. I don't see that they start working in such a way that is restricted, or that they don't want to show themselves as traitors in society that has set everything for them. 

Student: I understand your answer. It's in calculation of the future, on account of the future.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (19:08) In what exactly, it's a society, because it seems like that it comes on account of the other. So, in what is it a society? 

M. Laitman: In every society, in every country, you have people who live at the account of others. Because the rule of human society is go and live off each other. 

Student: So, what turns them into a society if it's one on account of the other, the diligent?

M. Laitman: If they're not one at the account of the other, then there is no society. Then they just scatter like in a jungle, in a forest. 

Student: There's no idea here that attracts them, something that they want? 

M. Laitman: No, no, no, that's still a bourgeois society where everyone only thinks about himself and doesn't take the others into account, and anything.

Student: Why is it organized such that 10%, seemingly, manage everything and everyone else bowing down to them? Why does it work that way, like he writes here about the 10% that they are the diligent and all the rest are the degree of the stragglers?

M. Laitman: In every society you have diligence, and as opposed to them, the relative stragglers, so what can you do? 

Student: Why is it so extreme, the difference between them? Why is society not more circular, round, with all the people among it? 

M. Laitman: Because to begin with we organize according to the will to receive within each and every one, and the conditions that operate us. And therefore, there isn’t, there can't be any other outcome here, that's human nature.

Student: So, what I'm trying to understand in terms of providence, what is the expectation of the general mass, which is not really diligent that the Creator creates such a reality, what does He expect to happen with all the masses? 

M. Laitman: He doesn't expect anything in terms of the relationship within society. Everyone's playing with the mass, everyone wants to attract the masses towards them. And this mass of people in the modern egoistic society takes on its own strength because of its mass. 

Student: So, what is their role? It seems as if the majority of humanity, it's that each one, there's ones who want to draw it in all kinds of different directions. So what is its role, if everyone just wants to pull it in their directions? 

M. Laitman: Its role? To enjoy life as much as possible, even though they can't be above the ordinary, just workers and what you can basically call stragglers, essentially. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (22:57) Is it possible to understand the diligent and stragglers, if we spoke earlier about that open to everyone is how much they will come to spirituality to become equal with the Creator. So diligent it's given to each and every one, as much as one is more diligent, he will come closer. So then according to root and branch, it's similar. So, as it's correct in spirituality and in the root, so it becomes expressed in the corporeal branch. Could we understand it that way? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (23:35) Diligent and stragglers could still be good because according to the extent of a person's investment, he receives accordingly. What we see in society, it's more of a matter of who's sharper, who has more luck, who has more physical strength, who's able to become organized better in relation to others. There's a different field of forces here, a different relationship of forces?

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: I thought in the past it was really less so, it doesn't matter if you have luck or not, but if you were born to a rich family, so that's constant for you, that's fixed for you?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: What does this multi-layering here, where the one who is more successful is sharper and it's not the one who's more diligent, what does that say about the society? 

M. Laitman: It says that society ultimately doesn't know how to conduct itself, and what governs it is the upper force.

Student: Meaning, another person finds himself that, if I will work and try, nothing is guaranteed for me. How is that a stage in development? You say that that brings us closer to the Creator so that we'll understand that the upper force is managing us? How does one bring to the other? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: Meaning, there's this injustice.

M. Laitman: Correct. 

Student: If sometime there was injustice of one kind, now there's injustice of another kind. How do we relate to that injustice, and is there a way to organize it? Or what does that show us?

M. Laitman: This secondary injustice, or second kind, is much more severe because we also see how the people talk that, why does one deserve more and I deserve less?  Meaning that there are no complaints or there are complaints, actually, about why I have it this way, and he has it another way. In other words, the relationship becomes much more, much deeper, I would say. But along with it, everyone understands that there isn't really that much to change, there isn't that much to change. Just as he basically writes, that both the stragglers and the successful ones, they can't really change their state.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (27:01) Here, it is written that the status of the successful ones, it's not a problem if they leave enough enjoyment for the stragglers. And we see that no one's satisfied today, except for maybe a certain group no one's satisfied from their state, and everyone is battling. Is it because the society, meaning that the more successful ones, are not leaving them that enjoyment? Or is it something from within and there's this general lack of pleasure on a collective scale? 

M. Laitman: I don't know what to answer here because there is a big market here, where each and every one, in each and every moment, nevertheless cares about two things: One, preserving his situation so he won't be personally harmed; and secondly, that he won't be losing something as opposed to others, as much as he can. And therefore society, ultimately, stabilizes at a point where it grinds to a halt in its development and there's no more that human beings can do about it. 

Student: So, the question here is should we direct the efforts to correct the society or to accept this state as a certain opportunity for rising to the Creator, and then the society is not the problem? Meaning that inequality is not the problem, meaning, correcting the inequality? Should we correct the inequality in some kind of way, or should we try to rise? 

M. Laitman: It's the same thing because transcending is on top of inequality. We relate it to the Creator and so we take it as a given for our ascent to Him. Meaning, we accept this inequality as a given, and then everything only depends on our attitude to what the Creator does with us. This is basically where we have to begin to feel that society is a result of the upper actions, operations. 

Student: With this mess, this injustice that exists in today's society, it's unclear how we can correct that? More than that, we also read that no method really works here. We don't find some solution, for short, to correct our society. So, a state is generated here that as Baal HaSulam says, that the force of bestowal this upper force we need to turn more to the Creator and seek that He will correct us? Or should we try to change something in the society?

M. Laitman: I don't think that within society we can find the forces that will help us correct society, no. However, our work now is to discover our true state. And the situation is such that we cannot come from it to a more advanced state, we can't.

Student: Can I ask a question on another topic? When you said that in a corrected body there are diligent and stragglers, what does that mean? How does that work in a corrected body? Let's say I take as one man with one heart and that the group is in a state of as one man with one heart, where is there some kind of competition? What is the competition on, do they even have competition between them? And if there is no competition, how do they advance because competition strengthens the uniqueness and strengthens the general collective force. So, it seems as if, as one man with one heart would stop development.

M. Laitman: Yes, essentially. Basically, yes. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (32:55) It turns out, it seems, that we need to help maybe, to reveal this sick state that needs to become clarified in humanity and in our nation. Where there is no solution and there will be no solution, whether it's an economic or political solution, they don't work. And people need to feel clearly that they are simply going to consume each other through this lack of righteousness in the society. That they won't be able to stop themselves, that they will see that this is a sickness of the will to receive. And that it needs medicine, a remedy, against that sickness from a different place. So, maybe, it is possible to gently explain to people what is happening to us in this matter. 

M. Laitman: Look at what he writes in section 5, right at the end: “There is no correction for the stragglers unless they themselves choose those diligent who will govern them. If they do not have this power, they will end up being uninhibitedly exploited by the diligent”. Here there is essentially a kind of a single and weak solution, but it's there. That this mass of stragglers can nevertheless change their future state. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (35:26) It doesn't seem, doesn't sound like a solution because today is both exploiter and exploited. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So, what is the solution here? 

M. Laitman: We don't know, nevertheless, the situation hasn't become clear.

Student: Meaning, it seems as if recognition of evil needs to penetrate into all levels of the population. And only then can we approach a solution. The question is at what stage does that happen and how do we approach it?

M. Laitman: I don't know, we're studying this together, all of us, and we'll see a future.

Student: How do we approach a person who has a little recognition of evil, that feels that he's being exploited, used? How can we approach him, add to him something? 

M. Laitman: We have to study The Writings Of The Last Generation carefully, study them well, and maybe we'll be able to extract from here some sort of a method, discipline. 

Student: What is the attitude of a person who feels, let's say, he feels exploited? Really, everywhere he goes, he feels this exploitation of the will to receive. What is the corrected attitude that needs to unfold? 

M. Laitman: The correct attitude should be that he pushes his society, his environment, or more than that, to the conditions of the last generation. 

Student: Does he need to be in an agreement to everything that passes over him, that they're exploiting him, etc.?

M. Laitman: No, no, no, of course, if it's in agreement then he's considered dead. In order to move, to scrutinize things, to make any movements in society, he actually has to scrutinize conflicting things, contrasting things as much as possible. And activate them or work through them. 

Student: So how can he give an example in such a state where he feels that injustice, that lack of righteousness, the lack of equality? 

M. Laitman: I don't know, we need to think.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (38:26) He writes the solution on page 835: “That there should be an institution that most of the society will be ready to work according to their ability and to receive according to their need, according to religion, and this institution will be a central heart that will expand to all the nations and countries until the end of the world. And whoever enters that framework will accept that providence until the whole world will become one nation with profit and loss and the results of it”. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (39:10) There are many questions here, I'll try from one direction. Is it possible to see this division between the diligent and the stragglers as some kind of, as how the desire is close to matter? For example, the diligent, their desire is more material, so they're destined to be more successful. Or the contrary, the diligent are more detached from matter?

M. Laitman: What will you do, how can you approach this kind of division that you're talking about? 

Student: I'm not. 

M. Laitman: In society, there has to be the keys to the state that you're talking about. Are they there, do they exist? 

Student: It could be that there is no opportunity to understand who is a diligent and a straggler. And with our eyes, it always changes. 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (40:22) So, what is possible to learn from that, other than that there is some kind of division? That if Baal HaSulam writes it, so it's a division that exists somewhere there in nature. And we cannot approach it, and we cannot even really understand who is a diligent and who is a straggler.

M. Laitman: For the meantime, yes, that's what it seems. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (40:49) What is the difference between seeing the corruption in society and correcting it in practice? How much does the Creator let us correct something outside of us?

M. Laitman: It's a difference between four phases where you only see something that needs correction until you, actually, achieve correction.

Student: I see that everything that I approach to treat, that I need to correct myself. Every incorporation of mine in something outside of me, I need to correct myself?

M. Laitman: Correct.

Student: So, how much is nature made in such a way that we need to correct the society or something in general? 

M. Laitman: Nature is built according to what we need to achieve as a desire. Meaning our transformation, and then accordingly, we will see to what extent we're already in that state. 

Student: We just need to put together this desire but coming closer in practice, it's not something that's in our grasp?

M. Laitman: Yes. The Creator will finish the work for me.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (42:20) The diligent do not suffer?

M. Laitman: They do suffer, that's why they're diligent. They have a strong desire, and they feel the lack of justice, lack of order in society in a very severe way.

Student: What is common to the diligent and the stragglers? 

M. Laitman: What's common is that they influence each other.

Student: And in that, there's the ability to progress. The solution is there, they see that they are equal in that.

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: Because what we spoke about for 40 minutes now is saying that it's an unequal state, it's not good. As if there's this layer where it's good for them, the diligent, and this layer that it's bad for them, the stragglers but it's not the true state. Meaning we're missing the point that how this inequality, how it actually serves humanity, it's supposed to serve humanity. So how does it serve humanity?

M. Laitman: In that everyone wants changes, everyone wants a change.

Student: The same change? 

M. Laitman: No, but everyone wants one. Where do they meet in that inequivalence, that's the question.

Student: Can we supply a response, an answer, so that this desire will be common to everyone? 

M. Laitman: We still don't see it.

Student: Are we supposed to do that? 

M. Laitman: Preferably but we still can't even see it for ourselves; all the more so, explain it to others and attract them to it.

Student: What should be the leading principle here of that vision? 

M. Laitman: That everyone will feel some solution in it. 

Student: A solution not for the natural desire for change.

M. Laitman: To a desire that is also according to their view. That it should be filled, fulfilled, by the solution. 

Student: Okay, that's clear but there's this new way of seeing things that needs to dwell on everyone. So, if they're stragglers, so then they need to have some more, some more volume there, some more strength? Is there something that brings them together, something that unites them? 

M. Laitman: Yes, just not right away, but over time, society goes through a correction in such a way that they all begin to come closer to each other. 

Student: The stragglers, do they see the diligent as those who advance them? Or only as those who control them and make their lives hard?

M. Laitman: Probably, only as controlling them.

Student: And is that attitude supposed to change? 

M. Laitman: It's supposed to change, we can even see this now. Even as we from the perspective of the stragglers, we hate the diligence and the successful ones. And yet, we can understand their situation. 

Student: Meaning the connection in the system is that each one doesn't see what is controlling him?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (46:29) I wrote down that you said the corrected attitude that will turn the society into the conditions of the last generation. And to make movements, a person needs to scrutinize the opposed things, the conflicting things, and to act according to them. The diligent are those who accept upon themselves to make those movements in those conflicting, opposing things? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And the stragglers are those who are idle in that? Meaning the goal is that the stragglers will accept upon themselves more to work diligently? Or that the stragglers will simply do the work and they will push forth? Where does the emphasis need to be? 

M. Laitman: In the hands of the diligent because they have the power. 

Student: In the hands of the diligent, meaning that they should listen to the diligent and respect them, their qualities, in order to work with the opposing things, through opposing, conflicting emotions, etc.? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: It sounds like very clear and practical work. Where is, here, the Creator, prayer, the need for the upper force? 

M. Laitman: How can you make any move without the Creator? 

Student: Meaning the Creator is the only one that can cause a person to work through the conflicting things? 

M. Laitman: Yes, that, too. 

Student: Meaning a person himself can only work one way or another but he needs the Creator for the two of them? 

M. Laitman: He needs the Creator for both.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (48:37) The society where everyone works according to ability and receives according to need. Will there also be diligent and stragglers in that society? And who would they be, what would their definition be? 

M. Laitman: No, for them, the motive power, the motivation power, comes from how they see they're still not in balance with the correct society.

Student: We see that according to the ability, those 10% will always have more ability to bestow, to influence and the 90% less. So that division will more or less always stay.

M. Laitman: It doesn't matter the 90% or 10%, what matters is how each and every one participates. Because everyone participates with their own qualities.

Student: So, let's say in our society today, whoever is able to exploit the other better, so he's diligent and whoever can do that less is a straggler?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And an altruistic society, where each one works according to ability and receives according to need so there won't be stragglers there?

M. Laitman: There won't. 

Student: And diligent?

M. Laitman: And there won't be diligents.

Student: Although in externality, we will see that there are people like that. 

M. Laitman: That's in externality. It's like when you go to a hospital, and you see how each one behaves in terms of the percentages of sickness or health.

Student: Meaning there will be managers, etc. because there needs to be?

M. Laitman: Yes, yes.

Student: But there won't be stragglers? Meaning if a person is bestowing even in half of a percent, he's equal to a person who in externality, you see that he might be bestowing or influencing a lot?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (50:48) How does a society look and function, and operate, that the Creator manages?

M. Laitman: I don't know what to tell you, but it depends on who's looking at it. Look at our society, is the Creator governing it?

Student: Yes. 

M. Laitman: So as to bring it to correction, so He awakens deficiencies in it and all kinds of problems to bring it to correction.

Student: Yes, but according to the form of development in society. 

M. Laitman: To what extent they contribute, the people contribute to the Creator? To the extent that they want to connect between them and be drawn to the Creator.

Student: Where do they connect in the society?

M. Laitman: The Creator in the management of society is inside, inside the society that it operates. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (52:33) With us, in the nation, it seems that the diligent really do exploit the stragglers. It seems for the example that the media, for example, you have these billionaires who are managing it. Ad then you have the stragglers who need to take on two or three different jobs in order to close the month. The question is, does that pay off because it seems like that they want to exploit them until the very last boundary, where people won't, will still be able to hold on and not go out to protest on the streets, which is also what they don't want. But we're seeing, is that something that's only happening here with us in Israel, that they're exploiting to the very last drop?

M. Laitman: And even more so in Israel. I don't accept it in that way. 

Student: But it changes in the different societies, in the different nations.

M. Laitman: No.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (53:53) The stragglers, what are they straggling? What is their failure that makes them a straggler? In what does a person want to succeed in, that he's a straggler, money in the bank?

M. Laitman: Money in the bank, yes. All right. Okay, maybe we move on to the next part. Everyone suddenly came down. Okay, Section 6

Reader: Section 6

Reading: (54:40) The class of the diligent, meaning the rulers and the inspectors, are bound to create an exile such as in Egypt over the class of stragglers, who are the workers. This is because the rulers accumulate all the surplus of the workers in their hands and take the lion’s share.

In addition, for purposes of the benefit of the public, they will not let any worker escape from them to a different country, and they will guard them like Israel in Egypt. No slave shall leave them and be free. 

Ultimately, the class of the diligent will put to death all the elderly and handicapped who eat and do not work, or even if they eat more than they can work, as it is detrimental to society, and it is known that they have no sentiments.

M. Laitman: That is also clear. 

Reading: (56:01) When merchants and brokers become allotters, the buyers will become recipients of charity from them. Their fate would be determined by the mercy of the allotters, or as much as they fear the inspectors, should they take interest in that.

M. Laitman: Understood, next.

Reading: (56:37) Since ownership and control are not the same, for example, a ship that belongs to the state, every citizen has ownership over it, yet no right of entry, but only as the administration that controls it sees fit. Also, even if there is a proletariat government, they will have no preference in government properties than they have now in the bourgeois property, since all the control will be held by the executives alone, which are today’s bourgeois, or those like them.

M. Laitman: Yes. Do you agree or not, who wants to ask? I think these things are pretty much given.

Reading: (57:50) Such a state, where communists govern anti-communists, must be in the hands of an oligarchy, in complete dictatorship, where all the citizens are regarded as nothing, subject to brutal punishments according to the arbitrary heart of each and every executive. Otherwise, they will not secure the sustenance of the needs of the state. 

M. Laitman: It's understood, yes? In terms of logic? Next.

Reading: (59:00) In such a regime, the government must ensure that there are no democratic elections since the majority of the public are anti-communists.

Egoistic communism does not liberate the workers whatsoever. On the contrary, instead of bourgeois employers, who are lenient with the workers, they will institute a class of executives and supervisors who will enslave the workers by coercion and harsh and bitter punishments. The oppression and the exploitation will be doubled, and it will not be easier on them in any way if the exploitation is for the good of the country, because in the end, the employers and the oppressors take the cream, and the workers get the meager whey. In return, they are placed under constant fear of death, or punishment harsher than death.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:00:23) It's interesting that he writes that in the 1950s, where a third of the world were thinking that communism is the solution for everything. And he writes it also in the Nation of Israel, where there was a great appreciation for that method or the kibbutzim. That were thriving at the time, that it was forbidden to do something against that socialist system. So, Baal HaSulam was quite brave in writing these spicy things, and he writes these things in fine detail over the years, we see that it is correct. It is precise, and it's amazing to see how a Kabbalist sees the development of the world opposite to how the media and how everyone saw at the time. And then we see that that's how it unfolded until the 1990s, where it was clear to everyone. So, I'm just impressed by his preciseness, his precision, because he saw it before everyone else saw that. I think even Stalin was alive during the 1950s. 

M. Laitman: There was actually a flourishing of all those views, socialist views.

Reading: (01:02:00) In such a state, where communists rule over anti-communists, the executives must see that the citizens cannot discover the burden and oppression they are under. Thus, after all the works are in their hands, they will forbid the printers from printing, and the speakers from speaking, so they do not criticize their deeds whatsoever. Instead, they will be compelled to lie and cover up for them and depict a heaven on earth.

M. Laitman: That's what we see in Russia. 

Reading: (01:02:57) And their plight will never become known. It will be even more so with minorities who are not favored by the executives for whatever reason. They will be able to annihilate them without shame or fear that it will become known outside. And what will become of the Jews, whom the majority of the world hates?

M. Laitman: Yes, nothing to ask about that, these are facts.

Reading: (01:03:32) Indeed, it is the absolute truth that there cannot be a good and complete society unless its majority is good because the management depicts the quality of society, and the society is elected by the majority. If the majority is bad, the management will necessarily be bad, as well, for the wicked will not place over them rulers of whom they do not approve.

M. Laitman: Yes, you agree? All right.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:04:43) It seems that that is the point where we can make a change. Because even in the excerpt we read earlier, it's like, maybe I'm mistaken, but I see that the diligent in some ways are slaves to their tendencies. So if the 90% demand something different, something more correct, something closer to truth that we wish to reveal all the time, they will not be able to do anything else. And they start serving the 90%, and we see that also in the body. That the 10% works for the 90% that doesn't do anything, like the hair or nails, etc. So, I suddenly felt that that is our work, to work on those 90%, maybe I'm mistaken. Or maybe there's also a part of us that relates to those 10% but where do we see that change? Essentially, it's when the 90% really demands a change but a correct change. If not, then there will be more failures. I don't know, that simply came to my mind.

M. Laitman: Okay, who agrees or disagrees with him? 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:06:37) Maybe we should put it this way: That if the stragglers choose the diligent, correctly, so then the diligent can bring, both in wisdom. And also in acceptance to everyone to a better state, maybe in such a way. 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:06:57) Could we say that if we've reached an agreement that we need to act against nature. So, then the stragglers need to reach an agreement that connection is what needs to be in place and its basis for the diligent. So, you could say that the biggest difference between the diligent and the stragglers is the memory because as we see now in the nation. We see that on the 8th of October, everything was good in the unity. But one who is diligent it's hard for them to see that, and they go back to the level of the ego, could we say that? 

M. Laitman: You could say anything. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:07:55) There will be no solution until there will be no from the point of view of reason. That until we reach such a recognition that we have no ability to build a corrected society. But through a request to the upper force that will correct us. And we'll start building a good inclination in us; then we'll be able to build a society that will be able to start becoming corrected.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:08:38) A society needs to arise that will be the 10% diligent that will bring the world to correction. Because now the 10% that leads the world leads it to corruption and they control everyone. So there needs to be a society like Moses, who took everyone from the hands of Pharaoh. And they went after him to the desert. And then after that they said, we want to return to Pharaoh. Because they thought that he would do good to them because they thought that there would be something good there. But there still needs to be some kind of control of the stragglers to bring them to the correct place. Meaning the hope needs to be in the diligent and not in the stragglers. This diligent society needs to arise that will simply take control in its hands.

M. Laitman: Yes, that's considered more optimistic.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:09:45) At the end of section 5, it says that there is no correction to the stragglers unless they themselves choose the diligent who will govern them; that's also unclear because we see that. We say, for example, all kinds of social worker committees, they choose who represent them and then those people become very corrupted because they then become, talking about these unions, who choose their representatives and corrupt them. And then we see that through all those who are evil, then they will choose those who are evil to govern them. So, what will turn them into good here? How does the process of transformation take place here? 

M. Laitman: By the light that reforms. 

Student: So, if we see that that is truly the state, why does he write about Communism over so many pages? 

M. Laitman: Because we live in that, we live under the influence of all these aspects. 

Student: What is his goal in going through all the details? To see that there is no other solution? 

M. Laitman: Yes, that is possibly the goal. Okay, guys, let's agree with what was said, and there is more that we could delve into on our own into what's written and not necessarily confuse the friends. What are we doing next? 

Reader: We'll go to the next part of the lesson. 

M. Laitman: Go to the next part of the lesson. What's the next part? 

Reader: The next part is Letter 61 of Rabash. And before that, we'll sing a song together. 

Song: (01:11:48)