Morning Lesson January 22, 2022, Transcription
Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio
Part 2:
Baal HaSulam. The Wisdom of Kabbalah and Philosophy
1. R. (00:13) Yes, certainly Baal HaSulam had a lot to say both on philosophy and science and religions and belief systems and everything, but he was very, very aimed sharply towards the purpose of creation, purpose of life of the human; therefore he tried to tell us only about the things that can make us not veer of the path or awaken all kinds of doubts and problems in people who come closer to the wisdom of Kabbalah. And that is why he prevented himself from talking broadly and what he touched upon was to give us an opportunity to keep going on the path and, just a little bit, understand where our path is and not go into all kinds of theories that might lead us to a mistake. So he wrote a little bit about philosophy, about science, about these things just here and there because all of these correct matters, we can absorb them from our study. If you advance in the wisdom of Kabbalah correctly you understand what the place for all the other belief systems, religions, science, and philosophy is.
Reader
starts
(02:06
-
06:02)
What
Is
Spirituality?
2. R. (02:50) Meaning the main mistake of all the approach is that spirituality begets corporeality; they go in this kind of smooth way from this development that is intellectual and emotional, the seg way into the spiritual, and that is the major, central mistake of all the religions we have in the world and especially philosophy. That through my inner emotional and intellectual development, I can achieve spiritual perception. Where does it come from? It is because spirituality is concealed, concealed from our senses so how can we advance? They do not know, and that is why they think that like a person develops in this world and achieves all kinds of things, the same with spirituality. Just like he develops linearly, he can come to a spiritual perception in the same way to reveal the spiritual world, understood right? The main thing here is that corporeality begets spirituality.
Read
again
(06:31
-
08:22)
3. R. (08:28) So what is he telling us? He is telling us that there is a problem here, that we do not know a connection between corporeality and spirituality, we do not know where that connection is. Therefore we look for it, we try to find it. We cannot so we imagine that spirituality emerges from corporeality, and from here come all of our confusions and mistakes about spirituality; that instead a true spirituality, we relate to religions, philosophies, all kinds of things that we come up with on our own, from our own brainchild. That we think this is what should be, but if we had a different brain or different perception of reality, we would come up with something else. Meaning we cannot imagine something in an existing, objective matter because we do not discover it in our senses; and outside our senses we also do not know what is happening. So, it turns out that spirituality is completely outside of our range of attainment and if we can say that there is something beyond the five senses that we have, it is all in our imagination. That we imagine that there might be something that exists and so forth. That gives room for all kinds of philosophies, perceptions, belief systems; some counted about 2800 religious views, not even talking about philosophies of all sorts. So where does that come from? Because we do not feel meaning we cannot understand because our feeling can only be the result of attainment and understanding can only come from feeling and being able to research our feeling. So in short, we have no access to it, cannot touch it so what can we do?
4.
S.
(11:11)
According
to
what
he
says
here,
if
there
is
a
way
to
discern
between
the
spiritual
and
corporeal.
There
are
only
those
who
feel
spirituality
so
what
are
we
dealing
with?
R. We want to achieve a spiritual feeling and as a result we will begin to correctly understand what Kabbalists wrote to us.
S. But now we do not feel anything?
R. Wait, wait – do not wait but try to feel as much as you can.
S. What is philosophy for him?
R. Philosophy is what I imagine to myself that exists, but I never felt it and I do not feel it. It is just my own brainchild.
S. But we are not dealing with philosophy?
R. But we need to know where the boundary is between philosophy and scientific perception of reality and Kabbalistic perception of reality. There are three types of perception of reality: a realistic perception of what we refer to as within our senses. Later on we will understand how unrealistic it is but, in the meantime, there is the spiritual perception of reality which is not based on vessels of reception but based on vessels of bestowal which we need to achieve, and imaginary perception of reality which is religions, philosophies, and beliefs systems.
S. How can you define us?
R.
In
between.
S. Between what?
R. We feel the reality we call ‘this world', and outside of that we do not feel anything, and we want to achieve a true perception of reality. For that, we need the quality of bestowal like the Creator, that is it.
5. S. (13:45) Why does Baal HaSulam write that “the mistake was that their perception is that spirituality begets corporeality?” Did we also learn about the cascading of the world and development of history?
R. But you have no connection between spirituality and corporeality, no connection.
S. What is lost? What happens between spirituality and corporeality according to Kabbalah, what makes that disconnection?
R. Between spirituality and corporeality there is Tzimtzum, restriction, which cuts you off from spirituality so that in those opposite qualities, and they are not even opposite to spirituality, but it comes to you from the spiritual perception, the spiritual qualities, and so you are not there. It is right next to you, it is right here, but you do not sense it. It just passes by you and also not in a way that you can imagine it – it is not some spirit.
S. But isn't it the result? Is it what comes out of the other?
R. No, it is not a result, result means there is connection but there is no connection. Let us continue and it will be more understood.
Reader
continues
(15:41
-
17:56)
Philosophy
with
Regard
to
His
Essence
6. R. (18:00) We cannot attain the Creator what is called His essence but to the extent that He can fulfill our vessels, become revealed in our vessels based on the nature of our vessels, then in such a way we do recognize Him but not beyond that. So, we called the Creator, come and see, BoReh which means according to the qualities of our vessels we can see Him and not otherwise.
7. S. (19:13) In the last paragraph, it is not clear what he writes. That “the philosophers say they attain some different perceptions,” how to understand the last paragraph?
R.
This
is
all
of
the
problems
with
philosophy
because
they
like
to
philosophize,
and
they
understand
His
essence
and
prove
the
rules
of
negation
that
apply
to
Him.
However,
Kabbalah
has
no
dealings
whatsoever
with
it. They do
not
even
give
a
simple,
any
kind
of
name
to
the Creator,
Himself,
because
what
we
do
not
attain,
we
do
not
call
by
name
or
a
word,
and
we
do
not
attain
that.
We
only
attain
what
we
receive
from
the
Creator
into
our
vessels
but
Him,
meaning
even
the
lights
that
emanate
from
Him,
we
cannot
say
anything
about
it
but
only
what
enters
our
vessels.
This
is
called,
“from
your
actions
we
know
You.”
From
His
illumination
in
reality,
this
is
what
Kabbalists
do
speak
of
a
great
deal.
Meaning
all
those
illuminations
they
have
actually
attained
in
their
vessels
as
valid,
tangible
attainment.
8. S. (21:03) This is a very interesting article and I think it is relevant to understand what distinguishes our method. My question is: can we say that when the light does not enter the vessel that there is some kind of break and that is what causes a religion to come, what causes philosophy. But if light could enter the vessel, then there is no need for that because we corrected it, we corrected ourselves?
R. If a person attains the lights in the Kli then certainly there is no tendency to start talking about something else because then he's engaged only in studying how the light enters the vessels and in what qualities the vessels should be in order to receive the lights, and that the Kli is the desire that is its essence and it's substance and the light built the desire and fulfills the desire. So there is nothing besides the two and then he only works in what can bring these two together – the lights and the vessels, and although we have no such tendency and attainment towards these two components – lights and vessels – so they built for themselves based on what they are familiar with in this world something, and they think they are talking about it logically because that is basically their field of view, their perception, their ability, that is it.
S. So that leads to the next point: you can come out and explain to the entire world everything what happen before the Big Bang, why all of history is the way it is, but the Kabbalist kind of always holds himself, so it is the same thing as Baal HaSulam is writings here: ”the Kabbalists doesn't want to tell what is going on”, so there has to be philosophy, religion.
R. No, well, yes of course they should be that whatever happened and developed had to happen and should have developed because our mind and emotion built to invent something to replace spiritual attainment. But it is also in order to develop humanity towards a preparation for spiritual attainment. But now, today, when we have the opportunity to already achieve that, talk about it and explain it to everyone how to achieve, then we also have to tell everyone that this whole approach is fictitious. That there is no basis, no realistic basis for philosophies or all kinds of metaphysics of sorts. It only gives birth to all kinds of mistakes and distortions in humanities and leads to great confusion.
9. S. (24:47) It turns out that philosophy is like a scientific attempt to approach spirituality, and until lately, it was really the crown of science. People gathered and discussed the development of humanity. It was kind of forgotten and even considered something low. Tell someone he is a “philosopher,” it is like this disregarding him. Then Kabbalah comes in because we have developed science?
R. Philosophy is engaged in things that are not scientific, that are not empirical, cannot be measured and you cannot repeat some actions and receive the same result as in science; there is no such chain in philosophy. In Kabbalah, we also do not know because Kabbalah is above our senses. That is why Kabbalah is being lumped with in philosophy, people relate that to philosophy, what can you do? When I want to receive my philosophy doctorate, I have to go to the Philosophy area of Academia and do it there. I also had to write it according to what they expect otherwise I would not receive my PhD and something that was important to me to use to advertise the wisdom of Kabbalah, afterwards, so I had no choice. But certainly people relate to Kabbalah as they relate to other religions and belief systems that have no foundation that is pragmatic and provable. So they put Kabbalah there because who can prove? One cannot prove to another the wisdom of Kabbalah is the only one from all sorts of methods that can lead the person to feeling the upper world, feeling the Creator.
It teaches the person how to measure and assign values to this; and then it becomes from philosophy to something abstract to something very concrete and scientific and it becomes the crown, the head of all science because it discusses the upper force and how it descends and builds the forms of the will to receive and shapes of the will to receive, and then how the whole upper reality exists in a tangible way just like our world does and much more than that. That is why the wisdom of Kabbalah is not in ordinary signs and it is also not related to all of those views that have no scientific basis. It is outside of both realms and that is why it is so, well, it does not have its power. Because if you say, “I am engaged in religions,” then what can you do? People do not argue with the religions, whatever there is, there is. So there are 2800 religions, okay so you are one of them. Or at least one of the common religions in the world. All those religions also stem from the wisdom of Kabbalah because something was taken from Kabbalah, stolen from Kabbalah, and people want to bring that and integrate that with the laws and actions of this world, which is how it is all built.
S. Can I say that all religions came out of philosophy, and now the people stop feeling a for philosophy? So to disseminate Kabbalah through philosophy and religion, that is no possibility?
R. You can say that, yes, you can put it like that.
10. S. (30:09) Also towards us there are complaints from those who engage in a superficial way. They are saying that we are trying to reach spirituality through corporeal actions. How to answer those complaints?
R. I do not think you need to answer this. We have a method, and we see that we enjoy being engaged with that, and that is it, that is how you should answer people. Do you want to get to know this, please? Go into some of our circles, it is something we appreciate and respect. These are very ancient matters that come before philosophy and other religions, which is the wisdom of Kabbalah. The first book in Kabbalah was written by a person who lived almost six thousand years ago, so we are interested in that, it is an ancient wisdom. It is interesting to see what they thought, what they wrote, that is what we are doing, do not explain more. Meaning if you want to get to know it, please, if you do not, do not.
S. None Else Besides Him: does that relate to the Creator or Atzmuto, the unattainable part, or the attainable?
R. None Else Besides Him, we begin to recognize it from our senses, from our spiritual practice.
11. S. (32:12) There is some confusion from this article now. We said there is no connection between the corporal and spiritual world, we do not feel it in any way. So what exactly leads us with the connection to the Creator if we have no connection with spirituality?
R. That is the right question, a good one! That the connection between us when we built is a spiritual connection; that we want to bestow to one another, help one another. If we do that, the connection is spiritual and that is why when we build such a net of connections, we start feeling new types of phenomena not from this world. These phenomena are called, Creator, come and see, and this is how we advance and discover this force, the Creator more and more in quality and quantity of the connections between us.
12. S. (33:34) If we can define by a name or a word only based on our vessels then what exactly do, we call, come and see, the Creator?
R. That if I reach the quality of bestowal then to the extent of the quality of bestowal, I can recognize the general quality of bestowal that fills all of the reality which is called “Creator.” Towards me, I call it the Creator because I reach it revealing this quality that I, myself, established this quality in me and then see and I discover it in my vessels.
13. S. (34:17) Why do we call the perception of the Kabbalists true and the perception of someone who deals with yoga, let us say, imaginary?
R.
In
the
perception
of
reality
of
a
Kabbalist
he
receives
from
that
upper
force.
He
receives
his
corporeality
reality
then
he
gets
an
addition
of
a
spiritual
reality
and
in
this
way,
he
discovers
it,
that
same
reality.
But
yoga
and
all
kinds
of
other
things,
it
is
imagination.
They
tell
you
things
like
imagine,
concentrate
on
something,
and
that
is
what
you
will
discover.
So
it
is
a
guiding
imagination
to
see
reality
in
some
kind
of
supposedly
new
qualities,
but
they
do
not
go
against
your
nature,
they
are
not
against
your
nature.
We
have
a
nature
that
is
entirely
the
will
to
receive,
and
we
learn
in
the
wisdom
of
Kabbalah
how
to
see
it
through
the
will
to
bestow.
And
if
we
develop
the
will
to
bestow
in
us,
in
that
will
to
bestow
we
can
discover
the
upper
world.
We
must
create
vessels
in
us,
that
is
why
it
is
called
the
wisdom
of
Kabbalah,
the
wisdom
of
reception.
How
I
create
vessels
to
perceive
the
upper
world,
the
perception
of
reality
and
not
in
any
other
way
because
all
other
ways
stem
from
philosophy
and
psychology,
and
the
will
to
receive
does
not
change
there.
14. S. (36:31) We say that attainment is based on feeling but feeling is subjective so how do we call Kabbalah a science?
R. So in all forms of our research of reality we are in a subjective form, subjective perception, subjective thought this is something that a human says. He feels that he is in the world where there are billions of people and the still, vegetative and animate. It is all a subjective perception of his own but when he starts developing in him, attempts to rise above his perception, then he starts discovering the objective perception. What is the objective perception? That he does not see it in his egoistic senses but in his new senses and these new senses are supposedly outside of man. That is called a true objective, outside of man. What does it mean outside of man? In his will to bestow, not in his will to receive. That is what we need to develop in us. This is what we are doing, what we are trying to do. We only need to understand correctly in a rational, serious way that this is where we are going, all of us. That I am going through a process where I want to exchange my perception of reality from my own, bodily, egoistic, limited perception to an unlimited, upper, spiritual one in the forces of bestowal. That must be as a goal without any compensation. Not philosophy, not science, nothing else. Nothing stands with the purpose to change man's senses, no other method, but they teach a person how to expand maybe his perception in all kinds of ways, in all kinds of exercises, even physical, some kind of exercise brain activity, bodily activities. The wisdom of Kabbalah does not do this, it is not even in this. It tells a person one thing. You have to exit your tendency to receive towards the tendency to bestow and you cannot do it. But if you do such and such exercises between your friends, that you want to be incorporated in them, that you want all to incorporate in one another, do it in the ten, pray for it to happen, and in this way, you can change yourselves.
Meaning there are two conditions here. You must be in a tendency to connect even though you do not want it, and you understand you do not want it and you cannot, so you also need to connect to the upper force, the Creator. That He will change everything for you, meaning there are two things here, me and the friends and the Creator above as our partner. We have those three components in our action. I cannot without the friends, and I cannot without the Creator. If with the friends I understand what I have to be instead of what I am now, then with the friends together we can turn to the Creator and demand of Him to change us from reception to bestowal. What does it mean from receiving to bestowal? By me being concerned of myself that I will now be concerned of my whole group more than what I am concerned of myself, more. That is the difference between writing the zero and then the one and afterwards a zero. Remember that article. I need in order to reach spirituality only one thing.
To be in a group that is connected and that wants to connect with the upper force that will dwell in it. That is it, and that force will be revealed in the connection between us and according to the extent we want to annul ourselves. Then to that extent we can work with it with this force of bestowal. That is called that more and more to acquire that force of reception meaning this force of the bestowal upon the force of reception. That is called faith, the force of bestowal above reason, above the force of reception, Bina above Malchut. In this way, we can advance, and that is our work and except for that we do not need anything, so the group only exists for that. Only for that purpose and all actions in the group we must measure them and check them if they are aimed at these actions towards this goal, to raise us to the mutual force of bestowal. That we will connect in a mutual way in the ten, each one in his own ten and then we discover in our ten in such a connection, we discover the Creator. BoReh, come and see. That is it. This force exists to discover it we need to build the suitable connection to reveal Him. That is called building a vessel.
Reader continues (44:12)
15. S. (45:26) If we understand correctly, we cannot relate to what we see in this corporeal world as a way to understand how to attain spirituality?
R. Obviously not. From this world you cannot feel spirituality. People that are destined according to their inner ripeness to attain spirituality, they start feeling it, that tendency towards spirituality no matter who or what they are as much as they are developed or not, no matter what time they exist in whether a thousand two thousand or five thousand years ago or today. There is nothing about this, the Reshimot, the record is revealed a deficiency to attain spirituality to attain the Creator to attain the essence of life and that is what they advance towards. It does not matter how much a person knows or what family he was born in, completely not.
Reader continues (47:00)
16. R. (47:56) Meaning a force that reaches the perception of the Creator, which is the spiritual vessel. It is only a force. We can maybe understand it as what stands before, as a copy of the light.
17. S. (48:36) If the wisdom of Kabbalah seems to be the basis for many religious beliefs, is the emergence of religions or other different philosophies a result of blind faith?
R. I do not want to get into religions and faiths that exist. We just have to discern between all faiths and religions do not have a realistic foundation, meaning in the human senses, but the wisdom of Kabbalah, it is not that we just come and start studying in some circle, but the Wisdom of Kabbalah is the method to reveal the Creator to the created being in this world. That a person is born in this world and all his senses he can develop to an extent as states that he discovers, discovers inside the Upper force and in such a way that let us say the way he discovers this whole world. So the method that reveals the Creator to the created being is called the Wisdom of Kabbalah, that is it. Clear?
18. S. (51:16) Sorry I am trying to put Kabbalah into my heart, but I did study Kabbalah beforehand and I understand that spirituality is a force without a body, I understand and accept it, yet if we take into account that the Kabbalah…
R. Maybe you can ask without speaking, just ask.
S. Is it not necessary to make this human discernment in order to be able to differentiate between this world and the spiritual world?
R. No, we cannot do it because to reveal a spiritual word to a person with you cannot without him revealing it for himself. That is why the explanation has to be from a different angle. If a person has a desire to reveal the Upper force that manages his life when a person asks himself what am I alive for and it's raises him above the degree of the beast to the animate when he asks the essence of life where life comes from, so from this you can already start explaining to a person but also the explanation isn’t rational in the way that you can go out in nature and research. You have nothing to use to research nature we have to research ourselves to learn from Kabbalists how to research ourselves in order to discover in us the points in the heart, the seed the foundation that from it we can reveal the upper world. Only in such a way. All the other approaches are flawed. They are scientific that are based on our will to receive, and the wisdom of Kabbalah is not based on our will to receive, it is only based on revealing the Creator in the created being. That is it that is why it is not simple and only one who really has a desire for it, that he feels that there is no other reason to live so the source of life was taken from me, those people reach the Wisdom of Kabbalah and succeed.
19. S. (53:21) If people who do not study the wisdom of Kabbalah ask you, and they know you are studying the wisdom of Kabbalah, and they ask you did you ever feel spirituality, how to correctly answer, if to answer, without being a philosopher?
R. First of all I do not speak about it, I do not speak to strangers and if they ask, I say it depends on the desire in that person. If they want to know, it is like you are asking me about quantum physics, so you have to come and study a few years and then you will understand what they are talking about, and the Wisdom of Kabbalah it’s not for no reason that it is called the concealed wisdom it’s an exalted wisdom so come and study, I can’t say more than this. How can I explain to a child that is going to first-grade about integral mathematics, that he does not need to study it? He has to study many things before he reaches it.
20. S. (54:52) On the one hand I study and disseminate with love, I invest in dissemination a lot, but if I look at myself objectively throughout the years, did I become a person that loves others more? The answer is no. Does it mean I am a philosopher? What to do in order to practically attain spirituality?
R. We need to yearn for closeness between people, to see how much we are not able to, and that is the truth. Because the truth is revealed in us that we are all the will to receive and then we need to check ourselves in order to reach the truth. I must attain the will to bestow, to attain the will to bestow. That is what I must. Without this I do not obtain the truth and I am in the lie; I am on an animate degree. That I only serve my will to receive that is just a bit bigger than what is in the still, vegetative and animate. But I am living, I am an animal. And to this will to receive of an animal that is what I am always concerned about, that I will feel warm, pleasant, and confident, and that I will have everything I want. That is what I am concerned about, so that is the animate degree. If I want to attain the truth, I must uplift to a higher degree. That is already called the speaking degree. That I want to be in the degree of Ruach, the degrees of thoughts, the degrees of the desire itself and not on the degree where I am in my body. That we at least need to understand where we are. We are already aimed to that, and all the trouble the world is going through is also to aim them to this. So let us hope we reach it. At least we have a method, and it is being clarified from day to day. We see how the articles we are going through together give us light, they light the path for us So let us hope we get there. It all depends on the connection between us, working against the will to receive.
21. S. (58:02) The article says that the spiritual is a force, and the spiritual vessel is a force. So why did not philosophers succeed with the wisdom of Kabbalah, because it is very accurate and so on, just because they could not build the vessel of connection?
R. If they would have worked on connection between us then they would reach the essence of Creator, meaning the feeling of the Creator. If they would resist their egoistic desire and overcome, above it and connect between them, by this they would start feeling the greatness of the Creator that dwells upon them and aims them, yes, of course. That is the difference between philosophy and Kabbalah: philosophers want to attain it by force, by the force of their minds; and Kabbalists want to attain it in the upper light, that a force will bestow on them from above and change their inclinations. Then in this new vessel called “the force bestowal” they will receive from above. They will be able to feel the Creator, that is also the source of the light of reception that we receive in our vessels of bestowal.
22. S. (59:38) Until we attain the Creator, we asked to work with the faith of the sages to advance. What is the difference between this and philosophy?
R. Every science I go into I start from the first grade and my teacher, I remember her until today, even though it was 70 years ago, when I was in the first grade and, I heard what she was saying and what she said for me was sacred. That is it. That is all I study. Meaning we always believe in our teachers that what they say is true, it is the truth. That is how it is till today; if you want to learn from someone you have to believe them, that they are speaking the truth and if you do not believe then it is worthwhile finding someone else. Because to the extent you do not believe your teachers that they are saying something right, you will not receive their wisdom.
23. S. (01:01:04) Can you define exactly what is spirituality and corporeality and how can a person check where he is?
R. Spirituality means what we feel in the vessels of bestowal and corporeality is what we feel in the vessels of reception.
24. S. (01:01:24) When we turn to the new students when we disseminate people perceive Kabbalah as philosophy, how can you quickly move them to scientific perception of the wisdom of Kabbalah?
R. Gradually, you build in them with time. You do not have to press on them or convince them. No. Because the person will think that you are trying to sell him something. He needs to gradually, slowly, through your influence and the influence of the upper light that comes through you, he will receive a new mind and feeling.
25. S. (01:02:11) Does the whole world have to come out of the tendency to receive to the tendency to bestow, and will they know that the source of it is Kabbalah?
R. The whole world will need to discover that what we need to know, in all of reality, is only the wisdom of Kabbalah and that through it we ascend upward, above this whole world. We do not need anything in this world: not the still, vegetative and animate, and not humans in such a form. We only need to feel the connection between us and in it the Creator; and that will fill everything, all of our vessels. That way we will all be in the force of mutual bestowal and that is called “the correct Adam HaRishon” and the Creator will fill in this vessel.
26. S. (01:03:18) So why is it philosophy that is spread in the world and not Kabbalah which is so important? Why isn't Kabbalah perceived like that by people?
R. You do not see it in yourself how difficult it is? A person in this world, an egoist, does not want to receive this. It is difficult for him and, If the Creator would not have awakened in us the desire to attain the truth, to attain Him; along with not awakening problems and troubles around us; we would not even approach it. That we have two forces as Baal HaSulam says,” those who pull forward and those who push from behind,” and also as much as they work on us, we still need to add more to it more forces of our own, and we are lazy in it: that is already our freedom of choice.
27. S. (01:04:28) What is the need for such an iron wall between corporeality and spirituality?
R.
That
is
in
the
perception
of
reality
and
cannot
be
otherwise.
This
iron
wall
it
is
not
a
wall.
When
it
disappears
according
to
you,
receiving
the
qualities
of
bestowal,
you
see
that
there
is
no
separation
here;
the
separation
is
inside,
in
you,
in
your
attitude,
in
your
qualities;
that
you
did
not
see
reality,
you
could
not
feel
it
because
you
were
not
in
it.
But
the
moment
you
acquire
the
quality
of
bestowal
there
is
no
barrier,
that
is
called
“that
you
passed
the
screen,”
this
screen,
this
block,
there
is
125
degrees
in
it;
but
we
go
through
it.
28. S. (01:05:30) What is this mentality that philosophy stole from the wisdom of Kabbalah?
R.
that
they
thought
that
by
using
all
kinds
of
approaches
from
the
wisdom
of
Kabbalah,
by
this
they
can
confuse
people
and
draw
them,
pull
them
into
that.
Meaning
philosophize
with
all
kinds
of
endless
infinite
philosophies,
but
not
to
attain
the
Creator
in
the
true
way,
but
only
to
speak
about
Him,
to
speak
around
Him:
that
is
this
way
and
that
way.
look
what
we
have
in
philosophy
on
one
hand,
on
the
other
hand
from
philosophy
science
grew,
the
modern
science.
It
was
not
sufficient
for
them
that
they
were
not
speaking
about
it,
and
they
started
researching
it
more
and
more.
And
there
were
all
kinds
of
arguments
between
religion
and
philosophy
and
science,
and
this
is
how,
until
today.
That
we
have
already
bit
the
empty
philosophy,
that
the
way
is
showing
itself
that
is
not
bringing
anything.
But
how
did
we
win
through
science:
that
science
brings
us
correct,
right
realistic
phenomena
and
the
wisdom
of
Kabbalah
cannot
do
it,
because
it
is
concealed.
So
it
turns
out
that
between
science
and
the
wisdom
of
Kabbalah
there
is
an
article
called
“philosophy.”
What
can
you
do?
In
philosophy,
on
one
hand
there
is
something
from
science
and
something
that
is
concealed;
and
it
cannot
answer
not
the
concealed
and
not
science.
That
is
why
Baal
HaSulam
writes
that
“the
wisdom
of
Kabbalah
needs
to
be
revealed
and
by
this
obviously
all
of
the
philosophy
will
disappear,”
that
everybody
will
discover
how
we
are
in
nothing
but
this
approach,
it
has
nothing
to
explain
the
essence
of
reality.
That
is
it.
Nice
ladies
thank
you,
and
I
hope
you
learn
something
in
this
lesson.
What
I
am
asking
is,
still
read
it,
a
few
times,
even
the
same
short
parts
we
have
read,
and
if
there
are
questions,
we
will
answer
them
because
these
questions
are
good,
and
it's
worth
scrutinizing
because
you
will
be
asking
them
a
lot
in
your
life,
and
we
have
to
know
what
to
answer
people
that
are
asking
us.
29. S. (01:09:22) From the first paragraph: philosophy too says that corporeality is the offspring of spirituality. How is Kabbalah different from what philosophy says?
R. So, in that it is not different let us say, but they do not know what spirituality is. In spirituality begets corporeality, and the fact that they are saying it, so they are saying it. The only problem is that they think that corporeality exists, and that spirituality begets that it exists in corporeality. Kabbalah says that's corporeality does not exist; the corporeality itself does not exist only spirituality exists, and corporeality is only depicted in our senses that are false, that we supposedly imagine that they exist. This world that exists for us to rise from it to the true perception of the world; and in that way we can attain it, and quickly in our days. So, all the best to you all until the afternoon lesson.
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