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Daily Lesson (Morning) January 19, 2025.
Part 2: Baal HaSulam. Obtaining Contact with the Creator, Item 6
Reader: We are reading selected excerpts from the sources on “Obtaining Contact with the Creator.” Starting with Item 6, from Baal HaSulam, Shamati 19.
6. Baal HaSulam, Shamati, Article No. 19, "What Is 'The Creator Hates the Bodies,' in the Work?"
Reading: (00:18) We must know that there is a matter of importance in the labor when there is contact between the individual and the Creator.
It means that one feels that he needs the Creator since, in the state of labor, he sees that no one in the world can save him from the state he is in except for the Creator. Then he sees that “There is none else besides Him,” who can save him from the state he is in, and from which he cannot escape.
This is called having close contact with the Creator. If one knows how to appreciate that contact, meaning that one should believe that then he is adhered to the Creator, meaning that all his thought is of the Creator, meaning that He will help him, for otherwise he sees that he is lost.
Conversely, one who is rewarded with private Providence and sees that the Creator does everything, as it is written, “He alone does and will do all the deeds,” naturally has nothing to add, and in any case, he has no room for prayer for the Creator’s help.
M. Laitman: Questions about this?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:41) Why exactly does he have nothing to add?
M. Laitman: There’s nothing to add, I don't know. Probably satisfied with what he is receiving. He has no questions about that.
Student: He says that if he reaches a state of private providence, he sees that the Creator does everything as He alone does and will do all deeds, and then naturally, the person has nothing he can add, he’s annulled. So, there is no room for prayer even, but why can't he add in, well, gratitude, for example?
M. Laitman: I don't know. Let's ask. Who else thinks this way?
Answer (Petah Tikva Center): (03:40) I will say that there is room to add. He can join with the sorrow of the public, but this needs to be felt.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Answer (Petah Tikva Center): (03:59) We have gratitude for the past, gratitude for the present, and gratitude for the future. And gratitude for the future, that's confidence, the society, and faith? That's the question, how to get to that, to gratitude for the future?
M. Laitman: Okay. More?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (04:22) So long as there is suffering in the public, how can a person be content? Content with his own situation, with everything he sees?
M. Laitman: Well, I don't know how it is with each and every one, how each answers it to himself, with what he sees in life. But probably, nevertheless, most of the person's complaints are those that don't return to him and compel him to be revealed against the development.
Student: In the text, it would appear that it's better for the person to be dependent on the Creator, asking Him for things, then to be under private providence where he sees everything is perfect.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: So, if he is attached to the public, to friends, to things outside of himself, how can he be in a state where there's nothing for him to add? What kind of state is that?
M. Laitman: That's a very special state, really, where he can't add. It's as if he's unconscious, as if he is unconscious.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (06:09) When a person attains a certain degree of wholeness, he also attains that the Creator is the good who does good. So, what can a person add to the benevolence of the Creator if he wants to add?
M. Laitman: There's nothing to add, from the Good That Does Good, there's nothing to add. But he doesn't attain it. How much does he have to go through in order for him to attain, to be part of the Good That Does Good?
Student: We always shift from states of being incomplete to being complete, incomplete states to complete states. So, these incomplete states can stretch to, well, what he describes here in the last part where it becomes a flaw. So, where does it become a flaw exactly? Where's that boundary?
M. Laitman: To the extent in which a person is willing to be completely passive.
Student: Okay. When does the person's request to, well, let's say, add something, when does it become a flaw? Because he feels that the Creator is good, but also at the same time he wants to add something, and he becomes mute because anything he would add implies that the Creator is flawed.
M. Laitman: So, I need to come to a state in which every next state will guide me to thank the Creator.
Student: To thank the Creator?
M. Laitman: Yes. Then for sure it'll be good. Here comes the question whether what I'm asking to thank the Creator, is really my feeling and desire or not?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (08:37) In the last part of the excerpt he writes that a person is rewarded with private providence, but it actually sounds like a negative state. On the one hand it sounds like a state of perfection. He reached the recognition that the Creator is the One who does everything, he's the Good Who Does Good, but at the same time he has no room for prayer, and this is called a reward. But it seems to be a negative state. If he doesn't demand anything of the Creator, he reaches a kind of an end.
M. Laitman: What do you answer on this?
Student: To me, it sounds like the end of correction. If he already recognizes that there's None Else Besides the Creator, from end to end, in his inner kind of awareness, it sounds like complete adhesion. He also calls that a reward, he was rewarded with private providence.
M. Laitman: Okay, who agrees with him? Yes?
Answer (Petah Tikva Center): (09:56) I think that this excerpt describes a certain point at which a person feels that he's rewarded. If he feels that he's being rewarded, there's immediately gratitude. Who doesn't want to be rewarded with something good? And he feels that it's a complete state. But if a moment after that he feels something negative, he's no longer in that complete state, perfect state. And then again he enters a state of prayer, lack, request, work. But at that very certain point, that certain point where the person is, well, rewarded.
M. Laitman: He was rewarded with wholeness. Yes, he has nothing to add. He can't, from his state, depict a state that would have a lack in it.
Answer (Petah Tikva Center): (10:53) The text, it seems pretty obvious that private providence is a momentary thing in the life of a Kabbalist. From there he needs to look for new lacks, to, well, give thanks, and continue working. There's no rest. It's clear, we know that, but the concept of private providence and being awarded with that, that's a very certain point in the work of those who serve the Lord.
M. Laitman: Yes, it's the border. There's no more desires.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (12:01) In the first part of the quote of the excerpt, he writes that he reaches a place where he doesn't even notice that he's in contact with a Creator. He's in a lowly place, and he discovers that only prayer can help. But he doesn't appreciate having contact with the Creator. That's on the one hand. But also I heard on the other hand that he reaches private providence, but that's also not a very good place because there also he doesn't feel contact with the Creator because he doesn't have any prayer, he doesn't have any lack for the Creator. So, what does the Creator want?
M. Laitman: The Creator wants a person to come to the degree of the Creator. Return the people of Israel unto the Lord your God. That's what the Creator wants.
Student: But He places the person in states where, on the one hand, he knows that only the Creator can help him, but on the other hand, he cannot believe in that. He can't even reach prayer, as he writes here. And then even if he's rewarded with something for a moment, it's as if he's been killed. So, how do you reach that state of you knew the Lord your God, and so on?
M. Laitman: Open the vessels. All a person's vessels need to be opened up to receive relating the attitude from the Creator.
Student: And how does he open up his vessels? He tries and tries, but how does he open it ultimately? For there to be a vessel which isn't trucked from state to state, being temporarily rewarded and so on, but reaches a state of complete permanent adhesion, because that's the goal ultimately, to come to know the Lord fully.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Beer Sheva): (14:28) With respect to what the friends brought up, the created being, which is the crown of creation, he was made, and in creation that's the highest place he can reach, and that's why he has nothing more to do, because he reached what Mother Bina gave him, and so on.
M. Laitman: If you're asking, I'll also ask. I don't know where a person needs to be in his final correction.
Student: Adhered to the Creator in equivalence of form, adhesion. So, if he reached that point…
M. Laitman: No, he didn't get there, according to what I'm hearing from you, then a person's not yet there.
Student: The question is, if he felt that he reached that, if he's in complete adhesion, he has nothing to give thanks for?
M. Laitman: No, no, we're not talking about what a person thinks, but rather on what's really happening.
Question (Woman Heb 1): (15:53) I wanted to ask regarding gratitude. Gratitude is a state which comes from above and erupts from within the person, or can you control it, or what comes first? How do you correct the state of gratitude and make it more whole? Do I have any work to do with respect to gratitude, any touch, or does it come from a different place?
M. Laitman: You have contact with gratitude, you're not like a drunkard person, but in truth, you can differentiate between what you need to thank for and what the Creator wants from you, yes. These are changes that don't end at this degree.
Question (Moscow 1): (16:53) Our state, right now, during the lesson, the Ten takes upon a certain form, generates a certain state.
M. Laitman: We have now, specifically now, a special state between us. We are on this flying saucer, and there's room for each and everyone in it. If we diminish our desire and want to connect more to the Creator, then we will understand even more. We will also understand and feel more where we are. I'm actually very happy that we have a kind of inclination towards that, and we're getting closer, we're getting closer.
Question (Petah Tikva 22): (18:22) The feeling of private providence, is that an undesirable state?
M. Laitman: No, of course it's a desired state.
Student: So, why does he write here that you cannot move from that state?
M. Laitman: He wants to check it more.
Question (Woman Rehovot 1): (18:50) It's written that a person doesn't know how to appreciate contact with the Creator. How can we prepare ourselves properly so as to appreciate contact with the Creator?
M. Laitman: As much as to be together with the Created beings. By that, you will come to a more important contact with the Creator.
Question (Woman MAK 43): (19:26) The recognition that there's None Else Besides Him, does it include within it concealment and revelation?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: What is the role of concealment in keeping There's None Else Besides Him?
M. Laitman: In order to open the revelation for us.
Student: Can we reach a permanent contact with the Creator?
M. Laitman: Adjacently?
Student: Permanence, in terms of contact with the Creator, feeling that contact.
M. Laitman: That's not on us. In the future, I think it is.
Question (Woman MAK 88): (20:13) How can we reach, how can we go from a state of private providence to a state where we resemble the Creator and His qualities?
M. Laitman: Through connection with the parts of our world Kli. You can enter into such states within which we identify with the forms of the groups that are different and other.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (20:58) I heard that a person needs to open all his inner vessels to receive care from the Creator. What does it mean?
M. Laitman: To open the heart. He wants with all in his heart to feel what the Creator receives from all this creation, from all the created beings. And accordingly, he connects to Him and comes to a connection with the Creator with all the created beings. Maybe we'll sing something.
Song: (22:14)
Reader: Now we'll continue summarizing the lessons in the Tens, let’s go.