What did the coronavirus pandemic expose in human nature? How is the coronavirus a lesson from nature? The following is a transcript of this talk between Kabbalist Dr. Michael Laitman and Oren Levi. Oren Levi: We're in the midst of a new wave of the coronavirus, and the fear is back. The Delta strain is spreading rapidly. The number of people testing positive is rising daily. A recently-published study shows that vaccines have a 91% ability of protecting you from serious illness but only 39% of keeping you from becoming infected with the coronavirus. There was a feeling that the coronavirus was behind us, and suddenly it was like the rug was pulled out from under our feet again. Now, every day you hear about someone else becoming infected with the coronavirus. Will this nightmare ever end? Kabbalist Dr. Michael Laitman: When will we change? When will we become better? Oren Levi: And how's that related to the coronavirus? Dr. Laitman: Everything is related. Everyone is interconnected. And everyone has to be connected together in an ideal integral system. Oren Levi: When you talk about connection, the thing that pains me the most is that when I come to visit my dad, who's over 80 now, I'm afraid to kiss him. Everything kind of cooled down. The world is like in a freezer. Dr. Laitman: No. The freezer is a result of us not wanting to connect, not wanting to be good to each other. Oren Levi: Everyone I know wants to be close and connected, but it's impossible. They have to wear masks all the time. You don't even know what the rules are because they change every week. Dr. Laitman: You're saying that previously, we used to have good relations between us. Oren Levi: Most normal people did. Dr. Laitman: What you call normal for me is completely not normal and unacceptable. And therefore we have to discover what abnormal egoists we really are. We can then say that the coronavirus came to restore order between us. Oren Levi: The coronavirus came to make peace and order between us? Dr. Laitman: Of course. Oren Levi: What is it? A high school teacher or what? Dr. Laitman: It's more than that. It wants to show us what we are doing wrong in our relationships. This is what it has been trying to teach us for the past year and a half. So what does a normal teacher do? If he sees that the kids aren't getting it, he tries something else. Oren Levi: But here it's like a stuck record. Dr. Laitman: No, no, no. The record is not stuck. It's simply that you don't understand what were we supposed to learn until now, that we didn't understand that we have to have a good connection where we help each other, where our desires and hearts are connected. That I will care for my fellow man in the very same way that I care for myself because we all live in one system. And for everyone to be concerned with not passing this disease onto each other, and that this is something that we'll really care for. Oren Levi: If you remember at the beginning of the pandemic, there was this feeling that we're together in this, and afterwards the solidarity somehow dissipated. Dr. Laitman: Because our ego became fed up with it. It couldn't take it anymore. Oren Levi: So this is exactly what I'm saying, that we're fed up with it. So why not change the record? Dr. Laitman: Nature doesn't work as you wish, but nature is going to wear you out and teach you that you, the little egoist, have to abide by the laws of nature rather than by your ego. That's the law of nature that we have to keep today: there's nothing greater than caring for your fellow man. This is what I have to come to, and if I come to that, then it's the end of Corona and all of our problems altogether. Oren Levi: How do the viruses know that you've decided to become more loving? Dr. Laitman: This is where they come from—from not keeping the law of love and from unfounded hatred.