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Lesson 4Nov 5, 2024

Lesson on the topic of "The conditions for studying with Friends"

Lesson 4|Nov 5, 2024
To all the lessons of the collection: The conditions for studying with Friends

The transcript has been transcribed and edited from English simultaneous interpretation, thus there may be potential semantic inaccuracies within it.

Daily Lesson (Morning) November 5, 2024.

Part 2:  The Conditions for Studying with Friends - Selected Excerpts from the Sources. #3.

Reader: We are learning from the document for learning among friends Selected excerpts from the sources, we'll continue from excerpt number three. Excerpt number three, Maor Vashemesh writes.

Reading: (00:19) 3. Maor VaShemesh, VaYechi - Twice.

Each one should assemble with his friend and come to him to hear from him a word about the work of the Creator, and how to find the Creator. He should annul before his friend, and his friend should do the same toward him, and so should everyone do. Then, when the assembly is with this intention, then “More than the calf wants to suckle, the cow wants to nurse,” and the Creator approaches them and He is with them, and therefore, all the salvations and all the blessings, and all the good bestowal opens to them from the source of mercy.

M. Laitman: Questions? Read again.

Reader: Excerpt number three Maor VaShemesh writes. 

Reading: (01:36) 3. Maor VaShemesh, VaYechi

M. Laitman: Questions?  

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:51) What does it mean to assemble himself with his friend and come to him to hear from him a word? 

M. Laitman: That each one will try to connect to his friend and to incorporate in him and to hear his words of attainment. 

Student: Is it an emotional feeling of assembling himself?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Because it seems like collecting everything that he is, and how does one come out of oneself?

M. Laitman: How to come out and enter? Enter the friend.

Student: Between my desire and the friend's desire, they are two magnets that pull inwards. 

M. Laitman: No, but you're already on some path, and you want to incorporate each one and everyone else in order to incorporate in the Creator, in order to feel where you are to which degree. 

Student: Does it depend on the friend if I can assemble myself and come to him, or does it depend only on me?

M. Laitman: On both. 

Student: On both? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: He also writes, and he will annul before his friend and his friend before him. I can be responsible only for myself. How can I be responsible for the friend, and he'll be responsible for my condition. There's a tough condition here, a tough requisite. 

M. Laitman: And that's how it happens. That is how it happens. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (04:58) In this whole excerpt, in the end, at the end of it there is the situation where the caw wants to suckle, nurse more than the calf wants to suckle. I'll just read the last bit, therefore the Creator approaches them, is with them, and all the salvations, and all the blessings, and all the good bestowal opens to them from the source of mercy. Is this already a revelation, that state? 

M. Laitman: Yes, it's not just a revelation of a nice relation, a correct one, but it's already a blessing.

Student: There are many states when the whole society and all the friends encourage and incorporate and create some state. My question is, is it like sesame seeds that are heading up, there's an influence, we don't really feel it like a revelation of the face, but it's bit by bit until it happens. Whereas here it happens and it's already happening, that there's a situation and it's happening.

M. Laitman: There's a situation, and it happens.

Student: So it's not an accumulation of similar states? 

M. Laitman: Also, it's also an accumulation. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (06:35) When he writes the Creator brings himself closer to them, is it a result? 

M. Laitman: They obligate him. 

Student: So the level of connection between us, the friends, obligates the Creator to approach us or move away from us? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So, we don't need another action besides connection between us?

M. Laitman: No. 

Student: It's not like there's a connection between us and then a connection to Him, but the connection between us invites Him already?

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (07:13) He writes about the assembly, as if there's an event, like a congress, like a gathering of friends, it seems like it should be our constant state where we should be in an assembly all the time. 

M. Laitman: No. Day after day, we need to be, or to see our states as new, and in this way advance. More and more towards identification with the Creator. 

Student: Should I collect myself into the friends each day and see us making efforts to connect? 

M. Laitman: Yes, of course.

Student: You get many questions now about the future and how will we learn and all that. And in order to guarantee a future, there has to be like a covenant, like a contract, on the principle, so that we know that tomorrow or many years down the line we will still gather under these conditions. Because as was asked before regarding how can I know that a friend is also an alien like me?

M. Laitman: So if it was written, it was good? That's enough?

Student: No, our covenant is in the heart, but there needs to be some sort of a resolution that this is the permanent state. We have to kind of set these principles in stone. What will happen, we don't know, but the commitment to connect, and incorporate, and annul, and that this is our goal. We need to kind of set these principles, these foundations in stone regardless of what happens. How can we get all the friends to resolve towards this? 

M. Laitman: Each one should try and you'll see to what extent it comes to implementation.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (09:47) To continue the friend, in his first article, Rabash says, we have gathered here to establish a society, to put a foundation for a society. What is this foundation?

M. Laitman: How we start the path, and in what direction we are going.

Student: In another article, I think Baal HaSulam says a person can build a rickety shack that any wind can blow away, or a strong building. So, what is the action that you can do that you don't get blown away by any wind?

M. Laitman: We need to be strong standing against the wind.

Student: What does it mean, strong? I see that every day, as if I forgot everything I promised until today. What does it mean to be strong?

M. Laitman: Good. It means that every day you can start anew.

Student: So, if you start over every day anew what is the foundation? That's not supposed to change every day. That's supposed to be set in stone. What is our foundation? 

M. Laitman: Our foundation is that day after we’re searching for a stronger, higher connection with the Creator and in this way advancing.

Student: So, is there a fixed part that's planted in the ground like a foundation, or isn't there? 

M. Laitman: There is. There is. If we want to advance in such a way, then we put in the ground our part, and from here onward we build.

Student: What does it mean in our case to put our part into the ground? 

M. Laitman: The foundation. 

Student: What is it? 

M. Laitman: That all of us together want to connect to the ground, the earth, and from it we want to build a home. 

Student: How do we come to building in front of me? How do we come to the appropriate depth so that it sustains the building? 

M. Laitman: That's something we learn every day in these articles.

Question (Woman PT 6): (12:39) What does it mean that all the blessings and the salvations are open to them?

M. Laitman: If they want to reach the purpose of creation, which is the purpose of their life, then a path opens before them, and supporters, different supporters, that in this way they can advance. 

Student: They continue and ask, what does it mean to hear from a friend a word about the work of the Creator, and how to find the Creator? Should we get advice from the friends on that? 

M. Laitman: Yes, it's very important. That builds your connection.

Question (PT 22): (13:24) How do we build the right and common intention to all the friends during the assembly? 

M. Laitman: You build the intention during the assembly that you want to be connected to one another and aim yourself to the Creator. 

Question (Turkiye 8): (13:51) What can a person do in order to show himself and the friends that he annuls before them, how can we feel this annulment? 

M. Laitman: We can feel it according to the deeds of the friends, that in this way he sustains himself, annuls before everyone, and wants to be connected to everyone.

Question (Woman Heb 2): (14:25) If a friend can't annul or subjugate himself because of pride or for whatever other reason, how should we relate to him correctly?

M. Laitman: Help him.

Question (Woman Rehovot 1): (14:46) What does it mean to be incorporated in the Creator? 

M. Laitman: That means to incorporate in that same goal that the Creator wants to bring us to between us and with the Creator together. 

Question (Lithuania 1): (15:07) How to be like the cow that wants to nurse more than the calf wants to suckle? 

M. Laitman: We have to be prepared in such a way before the friends. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (15:28) Spiritual work, was it always among friends? The wisdom of Kabbalah was always work among friends? If we can measure it, what changes in the work among friends between, let's say, Rabbi Shimon and today, what changed? Nothing changes? 

M. Laitman: There's no change in the principles and the means on how to study, how to read, but in general, no. 

Student: The person's relation toward the friends changes all the time, the individual.

M. Laitman: So what.

Student: So there's no connection between them, and the principles are the same toward a person too?

M. Laitman: Yes.  

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (16:24) To continue the friend’s question, we heard before that we need to see our situations new each day and this way advance more and more to similarity with the Creator. I don't only want to see our situations no, I want to make our situation new. What should I do?

M. Laitman: Enter between the friends and try to perform the work of connection especially. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (16:57) What does it mean to take advice from friends?

M. Laitman: Advice?

Student: Yes, I heard Rav say this now. 

M. Laitman: That each and every one might have some tip, advice, how to be more connected and more directed towards the goal. 

Student: So, in each gathering, when we speak among ourselves, each friend can suggest something to the friends and they can do it? 

M. Laitman: Yes, as if. If he has it.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (17:37) What does it mean to hear from a friend a word about the work of the Creator? 

M. Laitman: Each and every one has some kind of opinion on what we could do on our current state in order to advance to the next state. 

Student: Why doesn't the Creator speak directly to me? Why do I need to understand through the friend? 

M. Laitman: Because through the friend you might get something better. Usually that's how it is.

Student: That through the friend, because you often say turn to him, ask him, it's as if you're saying go speak to the Creator and constantly converse with Him. Here he says go get advice from the friend, hear it from the friend. So again, why do I need the friend in the middle? 

M. Laitman: You don't have any other way to connect to the Creator and to be connected with the society you're in, but only by connecting to your friend. 

Student: Besides friends, there's no other way for the Creator to communicate with a person? 

M. Laitman: No.

Student: In all of reality, everything around me, only through my friends? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (19:14) When it comes to hear from a friend, let's say during the day when we speak and I want to get from a friend, I want to or not, how can I distinguish if I did some sort of a psychological trick when I tried to hear him or I did a spiritual act and really got something from him?

M. Laitman: That depends what desire you used, as much as you got close. That's it. 

Student: What does it mean which desire I used? 

M. Laitman: What desire did you use? The will to receive, the will to bestow, the will to connect, and as much as by using that desire, that intention, that tendency, did you actually come closer to the friend?

Student: Is there a sign that something really came to me from the friends and I didn't just listen to words? 

M. Laitman: You have to feel that you got something from the friend and you used it, and from that implementation you get closer to the Creator. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (20:56) Can we say that the Creator speaks to me through the phenomena of the world, but I communicate with Him only through the Ten? 

M. Laitman: Yes and yes, both.

Student: It's just more accurate through the Ten. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (21:26) Is it correct to say that when we get a direction from the Creator or a directive from the Creator, it comes in the form of knowledge, but if we get advice from a friend, we also get the strength to do? 

M. Laitman: That's better. 

Student: Because there seems to be a connection, there's something in the connection between the person and the Creator which seems like theory, but when you work with a friend, there are also powers that come into play. How to receive strength, the powers themselves? 

M. Laitman: The powers themselves, only to ask, only to prepare yourself to receive those forces.

Student: Is it a certain relation we have to develop toward the Ten, the friends, that in the end has to give us the strength so we feel like we can actually do what we're supposed to do? But Point of the ability to carry out, to execute. When it's missing, it's frustrating. How do we approach the Ten in the work with a friend so I get the strength to actually do it? Is there a certain attitude, relation? How do we get the strength to do? 

M. Laitman: That's again from the same group you're in. Try and speak about it. What you're standing before, with which forces you need to attain the goal, and how you need to be connected in order to stabilize that force. 

Student: Why does the Creator at some point give strength and in the beginning he doesn't give strength?

M. Laitman: He wants us to learn how to connect and how to be directed towards Him specifically.

 Question (Petah Tikva Center): (24:15) Is it right to relate to the friend's advice as his deficiency?

M. Laitman: I don't know. I've never heard of such an approach.

Student: Because we incorporate a friend's deficiencies. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And we're supposed to ask for them, for fulfillment from the Creator. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Now, his advice comes from a place that whether he tried it or he wants it, I don't know how to relate to it exactly because in the end our implementation is inner work.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So, there has to be some kind of relation to the implementation of his advice in some way before the Creator, because they don't have a direct connection to the Creator, only the way I'm incorporating with the friends. So not everything, even through a Ten, is it a deficiency that exists in him? Also the advice itself, it's not a deficiency?  

M. Laitman: Yes.  

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (25:38) The friends, it's like a mirror of myself. The good things and the bad things.

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: So what does it mean to receive from the friends?

M. Laitman: To be incorporated with them.

Student: From all the relationships I discover. So what's the summary of all of them?

M. Laitman: The summary is the extent to which through them I change my attitude to the Creator.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (26:27) In the corporeal world, the will to receive is interested in hearing advice, things by experts, professors in a certain field. It's impressive, you know, he did some kind of work and now he has something to say. So, is my friend an expert? How should I see him as an expert in this field? To such an extent that I want to listen to what he has to say. 

M. Laitman: The Creator placed him in the middle between you and the Creator.

Student: And what can he say to me? 

M. Laitman: How to execute the connection with the Creator. This is what you need to hear from the friend. 

Student: Could there be a friend that's more of an expert and one that is less of an expert? 

M. Laitman: Could be, but it doesn't matter. I need to accept each and every friend as a marshal, as telling me something that I need along the way.

Student: He's telling something that I need.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So, from what the friend is telling me, how can I take from them exactly, let's say, what the Creator wants me to take? Because there are a lot of words sometimes, a lot. So, how to recognize, to be able to listen to the exact message of the Creator to me? 

M. Laitman: It depends on how much you want to enter His words and adhere to Him, and want to walk in His ways. 

Student: So, like before, the condition is to have a relation towards the friend, then I'll be able to hear Him.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (28:42) I heard that the Creator connects to a person through the friends and not through reality, I also heard that the Creator connects to man through the events of life, and man connects to the Creator through friends.

M. Laitman: Well, there are all kinds. 

Student: Let's say I know about myself that before I came to the wisdom of Kabbalah, I tried to understand how the Creator is connecting to me through reality. Except for being confused and frustrated, it didn't bring me anything, 

M. Laitman: Because there was no method.

Student: So now, a student of Kabbalah, what's the advice to try and understand the Creator in a way that will promise that he won't mistake?

M. Laitman: Our goal in the learning and in the connection between us is to bring ourselves to connection with the Creator, with the upper force. And by learning the connection, our connection, and from us to the Creator, by that we approach Him each day. That’s it.

Student: Now, this process, the Creator, can I even say that He's communicating with me through the events of life, through our relationships in the Ten? 

M. Laitman: Yes, through each and everything. 

Student: And does a person have any way, does he even need to try and understand what the Creator is telling him?

M. Laitman: Yes, to open the heart, open the feelings, and to try to see how the Creator relates to him every single moment. 

Student: How will it not bring him to that same confusion? He's judging according to the will to receive. I feel pleasant, so the Creator is mad at me. Sorry, the opposite. So what can he understand from these events of life that he's going through? Even in the Ten, what can he understand, what the Creator is working towards him? 

M. Laitman: How do you suggest for this poor person?

Student: To take it as a constant, that everything the Creator does is to bring him closer to the connection with Him, through the friend.

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: So, everything a person can do is to make efforts in that very specific field that was defined to him, and there to try and see that the Creator, as they write, The Good That Does Good in all the events even though right now he doesn't feel that. 

M. Laitman: Well, okay. Do the friends agree with this or not?  

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (32:08) I thought of a different kind of approach. There's a Ten, and there's the person.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And like the friend said, the Ten is like a mirror, so a person can see in every given moment to see if he loves them or not, what his emotion towards them in any given moment. Now, if it's love, so he can determine that there's equivalence of form with the Creator, like He's bestowing and I am  bestowing. They resemble each other, and then the closeness of the Creator is greater. But he can also say the opposite, that he's not in love.

M. Laitman: Clear.

Student: So maybe that's the main function of the Ten. 

M. Laitman: Okay, let's hear. You're all in Tens. You're all in this work. Well, what do you think? No one has any impressions? Yes?

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (33:25) The impression we were saying just a few days ago, that now it's a time of a lesson. We all are like magnets towards you. But let's say between the friends in the Ten, except for the reader, being the reader, I was listening to him, but the rest of the friends in the back, I wasn't in a connection with him this whole hour and a half. We're just sitting together, but I don't feel anything towards him. But a few days ago, we sat together in a meal. We had some gathering between us, and you feel warmth towards everyone. So it's completely two different states here. You feel the closeness to the friends. And in the lesson, you don't feel it. So how does it work? Because we were saying that there are two states, a lesson and a lesson between the friends. So if we can... 

M. Laitman: So you probably need your chicken. Your chicken.

Student: Oh, well, maybe a steak, actually.

M. Laitman: Oh, steak. Well, I don't know what you're eating there. I don't know.  

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (34:51) The question is about the connection with the Creator? So, if because the Creator is the light of Ein Sof and what you can grasp into the vessel is love of friends, the connection between us. Once we connect, that's the blessing. That's the light, so we can feel him. So all the actions of connection we're doing between us can reveal the Creator? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (35:27) You said... Well, it was a bit earlier, but you said that... Sometimes if you hear what you need to do, you get such an impression of deficiency directly. So that's flawed in your eyes? It's not good?

M. Laitman: No, nothing is flawed in my eyes. Only to learn from each and every situation.

Student: Because you said that He communicates only through them. Because I have different experiences. So is it okay or not? 

M. Laitman: Everything can be okay. The question is, how it advances you.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (36:31) If we determine that we are connected to give contentment to the Creator, so the relationships between a person and a friend bring him all the impressions he's getting, whether it's good or bad impressions. And sometimes I feel that from the impressions that are maybe more difficult. So it's like a spectrum that if we... A place to work, the impressions just... Oh, they pull the string on the bow more and the arrow can go straighter to the Creator. The more we gather everyone's efforts, we have a big force to do an action towards contentment to the Creator. And then we gradually organize these forces. We're this way, that way. And all the work is between us.

 

M. Laitman: Okay. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (37:43) I wanna ask, I have a few questions. How can the study change my perception of reality and affect my daily life?

M. Laitman: Directly, where through the study you want to change your perception of reality, by this you change. 

Student: How can we practically implement the principle of your friend as yourself in a group, especially when disputes awaken? 

M. Laitman: Disputes and views have nothing to do with closer or further connection. We can read in ancient books, ancient writings how actually people who attained, great Kabbalists, how disputed they were. So it doesn't mean anything. So we simply need to advance, be in the lessons and collect all the information, all the knowledge.

Student: So can you recommend an exercise that we can do today in the group in order to learn how to receive in faith everything that's happening around us? 

M. Laitman: Only to be more connected, tight among the friends. Good luck.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (39:53) One of the principles of Rabash is that if the friend thinks he's greater than the others, so he can't connect to them anymore, how to work with that state that the ego only grows and grows?

M. Laitman: It grows to the extent and according to your ability to overcome it. That's it. Don't forget it. The Creator doesn't throw us into the deep water and that's it. Okay guys, what about you in the back? 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (40:49) We do the preparation in the Ten. In the preparation, we have the opportunity to incorporate and then preach a lesson in a different way. And then it also enters into the friends, not only you. And after the end of the lesson, we do the summary or prayer. And then again, meaning the work in the Ten is like a base and what happens with you, what you bring is in order for us to work on it in that base. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So one thing is important, let's say two friends did it. So the relationship between them determines what comes through. The relation between the tutors is what passes the strongest to the friends. That's it?

M. Laitman:  Okay. Nice. All right. That's it. What are you continuing?

Reader: We'll go to the study between the friends, reading the study of the Ten Sefirot.