Morning Lesson September 11, 2021 Transcription
Part 1:
Faith Above Reason - Selected Excerpts from the Sources, #17
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1. Rav’s introduction: We want to exist in the spiritual world. In the corporeal world we can see how we exist and there is nothing pleasant in it but we do but we do exist in it. It’s not according to your desire that you are born and you live, and you die. Whereas in the spiritual world here, there is a choice and we can actualize this choice, and enter the feeling of the spiritual world that is to be born in it. The spiritual birth is entirely upon our will to receive, just as we learn what does is it mean a spiritual Partzuf that it is a will to receive that restricts itself and above itself it builds bestowal. Following the restriction, screen and reflected light, it builds an attitude from its will to receive to the Creator so that specifically it wants to bestow not to itself but rather it wants to bestow to the Creator. In this way it begins to build itself in a spiritual manner and to advance in that until the entire will to receive, that the Creator had created in him, he actualized that he used it in order to bestow above it just like the guest and the host. Everything, any desire that the guest has, any appetite, any hunger, he uses it only in order to delight the host by it and then he receives into himself all of the light up to Ein Sof (Infinity), there is no limit. With the intention of giving pleasure by this to the Creator, to the host, this all in all is what we have to do. We talked about it in the beginning that it is the easiest to do it when the person is in darkness, when he is indifferent and he has nothing in his life, and then he can start to think about giving contentment to the Creator because for himself, nevertheless, he has no inclination, no desire, no pressure. However, in the direction of the Creator he can think about it, no one is obligating him and in this way he can start. Maybe he can even do it upon the desires that exist in him which demand that he will draw pleasures to himself, that he will satisfy himself and along with that he works on the importance of spirituality, the importance of the Creator, the importance of the group, even out of the fact that he doesn’t want to stay as it is in this world in the feeling of this reality. This is how he inverts himself as we learn with the Partzuf.
Rav is pointing at the drawing: I drew the Partzuf. Here on the bottom is our ego, this is our ego, this is us, this is how we are born and we develop. When we later on want to reach the wisdom of Kabbalah then we learn that there is another upper force, the Creator, that’s His sign, the Lord, Hashem, and I can shift the whole emphasis of my work, of my goal to that ‘I long for the Creator’. What does it mean to long for the Creator, that I'm not concerned about myself, we can perform such exercises where I am not concerned about myself rather I’m concerned about Him. This is called to make a restriction, this is this red line (on the drawing), to make a restriction over oneself and to take into account that what is important for me is only the Creator. I want to bestow to Him by what, by my whole nature as much as it opens up to me, I take it only in a form that I can bestow to the Creator. Let's say, if I have a small appetite then I eat with the host and I give Him a little bit of pleasure, and if I have a great appetite I use it to delight the host, l give Him even greater pleasure. But it’s all done after the person depicts to himself these two parts, his will to receive which is myself, that’s what we call it, and the Creator. And in between these two, he decides for whom does he want to work, for whom does he want to perform a certain action. If it’s inside of him this is called ‘within reason,’ if it is to bestow to the Creator, to truly bestow to the Creator, meaning not for himself but rather upon the work for himself to bestow to the Creator, then it is called the work of ‘above reason.’ That is already spirituality and to that extent he starts to attain the Creator, and there is nothing else in reality besides the Creator and the created being. So the degrees of the attainment of the Creator where we attain Him in all kinds of different manners, how He clothes in us, how He is revealed in us, this is called the spiritual world. Until we discover Him truly completely, and not through some systems of concealment which are called the Olamot, the worlds, but above all the worlds we attain Him, Himself as the light of Ein Sof, Infinity. This is our purpose and this is what we reach.
But in the meantime, we have to feel this transition and to start to conquer it, how do we through our intentions, through our goals, through all of our dispositions, we want to be not connected to our ego, to our will to receive, to reception, but rather to the Creator, to bestowal, to the degree of Bina. Then we build a Partzuf, thus, a spiritual Partzuf. (On the drawing) Here, that is, we have the intention in order to receive, up above we have the intention of in order to bestow, and in between the two we have the restriction, and in this way we should constantly develop our intention for the Creator. The more it is relative to our intention for ourselves, this is how we rise on the ladder of degrees, we will learn that. What I wanted to say here, don't think that we are far away from what we are learning in the Preface and in all kinds of such places in the wisdom of Kabbalah, that we are actually coming closer to building the Partzuf. The restriction means that I don’t think about myself, that is I think about myself but I make a restriction over it, and later on Masach, a screen, so that I will not receive anything for myself, and reflected light (Ohr Hozer), this is already ‘faith above reason’ that bestowal for me is more important than reception and I am entirely aimed to the Creator through the group. When I establish myself there in such a way, myself, the restriction, the screen, the group and the Creator, and in this way I relate to it through this whole process, it is considered that I am building a spiritual Partzuf.
Indeed, it is so, as we see on the drawing this is how it really is and there is nothing else besides that, truly. Everything that we study in the wisdom of Kabbalah is a result of this sketch. So let's hope that we will work with that and we will start to conquer it, to see it in the true reality so that it simply exists before us, inside of us, in a way that each one will start to attain Him. But it’s really inside of us, everything is inside a person and it is also inside of Him, even the Creator is inside of Him. And of course, all those elements of creation they all exist inside of the person, the person includes everything, why is that, because this is how we attain, we attain inside of ourselves. And what seems to us also as outside of us that too, exists inside of us. That’s it, this is how we will advance. So again, everything is attained through the building of the Partzuf, this is called the building of the soul, and the world and everything that we can depict to ourselves it is all built in the force of bestowal which is called ‘faith above reason’ because the force of bestowal, we the created beings build it within us on top of the reception.
2. S. (12:33) In this whole process of transition that we heard in the preparation of the lesson from Rabash, is there a will to receive a desire to give in it?
R. There is pleasure in that I am aimed at the upper force, and I dedicate myself to him and I perform actions in order to get closer to him in order to discover the Creator and by this I am actualizing, I'm implementing my internal inclinations and desires that are inside my soul that I truly want this but it is hidden for me at the moment. This internal inclination that exist within me to discover the Creator.
S. (13:37) And that this pleasure is felt in the will to receive or is it a pleasure from bestowal?
R. This pleasure, this action is all in a desire that is above reception in rejection from myself. And it is aimed at the Creator as we said last time that the entire wisdom and in general everything starts from me either being in complete despair, I’m giving up on receiving for myself, I do not want to receive for myself, I have this empty dire state or that I want to receive for myself but I make restriction over it and I want to work above it whichever way it is the work is upon the will to receive, on top of the will to receive so that I do not want to work for the will to receive benefit and this is considered that I am making a restriction and above the will to receive I aim myself at: in what way can I bestow to the Creator.
3. S. (15:01) This being aimed at the Creator, should it somehow happen in this basic fundamental way, some basic change in the process or it is going like thoughts that come and go?
R. Try to identify, to find this inclination that exists in you towards the Creator. In which form does it exist? And try then to strengthen that inclination through your inclination to the group. As it says that I dwell among my own people, that the Creator is revealed inside the connection between different desires. This is how it happens. So try to do it.
4. S. (16:10) In this work we don't always succeed in working above the will to receive. Sometimes we fall back into reception. How to relate correctly to the frustration from our lack of success?
R. Simply if there is a lack of success, it is the sign that the inclination for bestowal in you is still very small relative to the will to receive, the great will to receive so you are getting such indications from lack of success, disappointment etc. because in the end where does the disappointment comes from because you'll eventually want to receive results in the will to receive in your work in your efforts and in general from your life in the will to receive. And according to the plan of creation, in respect to your soul you already have to progress to the desire to bestow. From being aimed at yourself to being aimed at the Creator. And this is why you are being that you made a mistake in some form, in some place. In this process you fail. So you have to check there and next time you will be successful. Next time might be a few seconds or a few minutes later.
S. (17:55) How should we relate to this lack of success on the spiritual path?
R. The attitude to the lack of success is that I am still not ready and it is good and I am grateful to the Creator that he showed me. That I am still not ready and I still cannot progress successfully but instead only through the revelation of the mistakes. Just like it was when we were in school we were writing, learning and we made mistakes and then we learnt on top of our own mistakes and this is how we advanced. Here it is the same. Until till the end of corrections we will constantly discover new mistakes and specifically on top of them can we advance. Our whole advancement is out of the fact that we discover mistakes because from that we learn. This is what's written: a thousand times the righteous falls and gets up. And only by us falling, we discover our mistakes and then we correct those mistakes and we rise and then in the next state we want to do something, we try to do something and then we make a mistake, we fall and we discover our fall and mistake and the reason for it, we correct our attitude and we rise. This is how it happens every time so thousand times the righteous falls and gets up.
Don't you think that you can rise up all the time to a high degrees like on a conveyor belt. It will always be like you fall, you understand why, and then you correct that. And specifically, by us correcting our falls, we are scrutinizing the Reshimot, the records, as we learn in the Partzuf, that it refines from Galgalta to Ab to Saag, so from where does it develop? Out of the fact that it discovers how much it has weakness in receiving an addition of lights. This is the same with us so it is impossible to progress without the person falling because specifically this fall shows the person a deeper will to receive that was hidden inside of him and more subtle and deeper examination and this is how we can take it into account and progress. And it is if also how it is in this world this is how we learn if we learn some profession, we constantly discover that first we find that it is seemingly easy but later as we get deeper in, we learn all kinds of problems, the composition of different things, for and against and out of this we reach all kinds of states of shattering and corrections. There is no choice, we are the created being. We attain the whole perfect system out of the incomplete broken system. The more we progress the Creator seems to us even more incomplete and together with this we discover that this is the completeness the wholeness and it is according to our own correction. It is always in respect to us.
5. S. (22:03) How do we know we are in this bad state so that we can build our soul?
R. Usually it is in respect to the group, that in the group we can examine all of our states but if in the group we are not arranged already that we can examine the spiritual states in our connections then it is simply through our attitude to spirituality, to the Creator, to the study, the most important is that even if we do not understand the states we are in, like a baby where does he know where he is and what is he doing, he does not know so he just lives because his body lives. We cannot say that the baby lives but his biological body lives. His animal exists, develops, grows until it becomes to the degree of Adam, human. It is a gradual process and it is the same with us. Now we do not know yet what is happening to us, we come, we hear, we talk, we study, and gradually those states assemble together and now we are actually before a very important state which is the entrance to the upper reality and this is how we do it. Therefore in the state where we are in some degree and it doesn't matter which one even on a higher spiritual degree we do not understand what is the next degree. We cannot entirely understand, it cannot enter our vessels. We in our current resolution cannot feel it, cannot discern all kinds of details and this is why to enter any higher degree is only possible by us adding the force of Bina the force of bestowal or faith above reason, and this is what we are studying together how to use this faith above reason which is the principle that we have to use in all of the degrees of our spiritual elevation. Each and every time as much as the force of bestowal that we acquire will be higher above the will to receive above the reason and accordingly we will rise on the ladder of the degrees. We will build our Partzufim, our souls, until we reach a single Partzuf, the single soul of Adam HaRishon.
6. S. (25:41) How can we connect our intentions without words or actions that are outside of us how can we connect with each other internally. We keep connecting and each friend comes from a different world which is all the same but how can we unite the intentions instead of the outside dressing, how can we build this internal unity through the friends and reveal the Creator in that and not in anything else?
R. We do not need to hold on to this world to discover the Creator in the connection between us, in our intentions. The desire in each and every person is very different from the others, from his friends and we will never have similar desires. But rather the intentions, they will be the same intentions that we all want to be connected in a single intention although our desires are different and the intention should be aimed truly in the direction of the Creator through the friends. In this way with the intention the more it will be a collective mutual intention between us we can discover the Creator there in a way that is more and more precise because our will to receive will grow more and more and we have to rise above it, to single intention all together and then we can discover the Creator in an intensity and level of detail which is ever-greater. This is as we learn that there is the coarseness on 0,1,2,3,4 levels and on top of that we discover different lights (Nefesh, Ruach, Neshama, Chaya and Yechida) of the soul this is how we discover the Creator in those different intensities but the desires themselves of ours, can never become similar instead they are all different but be intention from each and every desire can be the same for everybody which is the direction to the Creator.
7. S. (29:39) When you talk about lack of success is it only in relation to spiritual lack of success when I am not getting some spiritual result?
R. I have nothing to do with the physical world, I only relate to the connection between the friends and out of the connection with the Creator.
8. S. (30:10) How do we always maintain the intention to give to the Creator of all the desires
R. There is no connection and stop thinking how it is related, it has to be related only to the Creator, learn it from the friends, you can see in them how much they are already in that.
S. Yes, but isn't there no innocence or naivety in relying on the friends and or the Creator?
R. Where do you get this naivety?
S. You still don't feel it, but you give it a chance.
R. I do not understand your words, where did you see such a thing? Where did you hear such things? Why do you bring us such things that maybe you read somewhere? This is not how we study you need to be connected to what we are doing together.
9. S. (31:17) What is this relation to the desire, the friends and the Creator, is this something I have to create before the operation or it comes after some examinations, so it is not just some thought or some philosophy but like everything else that corporeal thing but it has to be something special?
R. I cannot answer you because it is a way of feeling, you need more and more to listen and read and to think and then you will assemble in you a new concept. There is nothing to explain here, we can't explain it, you simply have to continue.
Excerpt 17 (32:25)
10. R. (34:44) This is what happens in the ascent from degree to degree from Partzuf to Partzuf from a world to another world to the entire level of the final correction. That when the will to receive is revealed with greater magnitude, cruelty, confusion and demands from the person to think only about himself, only to be concerned about himself. On top of that the person has to overcome, to make a restriction, not to take care of the will to receive but to acquire above it the desire to give, to give, to connect. In such a way to take on the form of bestowal to build the form of bestowal to pray and to ask to acquire the form of bestowal and in this way we progress. This is the work in acquiring the degrees, the spiritual states until the final correction and everyone, all those who reached this progress like this and we are also going this way and also those who will follow us, the whole of mankind, they will have to walk this way. We are already in this where everybody enters this work and this is why there is no choice, on the one hand. On the other hand we have to see in this a nice opportunity and truly a gift from above that we can reach identification with the Creator and specifically through such actions that we ourselves perform, that we by ourselves, we are making the image of the Creator.
Excerpt 18 (36:55)
11. R. (39:24) There are no questions so it is nice if it is clear but if it is not clear you have to ask so do not be shy it is written it is not the wise who learns.
12. S. (39:41) It is not clear enough. It is clear in a philosophical way but from where do we get the strength? How can the person do such things when he does not have the condition, he doesn't have the request or anything? How do you do this?
R. Okay, so you have to imagine for yourself that you are now in your will to receive and another force comes to you that is opposite, which is the will to bestow which is opposite to your will to receive. It begins to operate within you. This can happen if the Creator wants it and if you are willing, then the Creator dresses into the person and begins to build in him all kinds of new spiritual states which means in order to bestow. The fact that now you still do not understand how this happens, it is clear, it is natural and this is like this with everybody else, but this is why we learn. So what do we learn? What conditions do we need to maintain so that the Creator can operate on us and turn each of us into a spiritual Partzuf of everyone. This is what we learn. This is why it is called the work of the Creator, it is not our work. Rather we have to work on what? On giving the Creator a chance to work on us, so we can become like clay in the hands of the potter. So He can turn us into Partzufim and in the end, to restore us into the state of Adam HaRishon. So He does it, what depends on us so he can perform this what should we have to be so He can perform this work on us, this is what the whole wisdom of Kabbalah talks about.
So what did they read? No. 18 right? The work above reason should be unconditional surrender, meaning I am willing, I do not know what it is but I am willing. What is above reason, against my intellect, against my feelings, against my whole selfish ego, this consists of mind and heart. So the work, this work should be above where I am now, it is clear that it is above, if I want to rise to a spiritual level which is above the corporeal level, then of course I have to get new qualities in my mind and heart. How can I get them, through unconditional surrender, that I place no conditions, I do not understand what has to happen here. The Creator should give it and install this new thing in me and this is what will happen. That is, a person has to take on himself the burden of Kingdom of Heaven without intellect, above reason, let it dress in me and I'll behave accordingly. The person should say I want to be a servant of the Creator doing everything in the form of bestowal and connection although I have no idea about this work and I feel no taste in this world, I have no desire for it, nothing. This is how the Creator created me initially and now something opposite comes, something opposite from what I am, something opposite to me, this is what it says about the spiritual work, I saw an opposite world. Nevertheless I am willing to work with all my might as if I have attainment, feeling and flavor in the work, as much as I can, where I can, I am willing to assist in this, where I can assist. I am willing to work without conditions, in other words, whatever happens, happens, for the Creator to push me and I will do it. I am willing to be an instrument in his hand, as the clay in the hand of the potter. At that time the person can go forward. Because he nullifies himself completely and there is no place at all in his desire to fall from his state because he agrees to everything.
Let the Creator do with me whatever he wants, I do not care how I feel, what I think, it does not matter as long as the Creator does with me whatever he wants, whatever he thinks is good for me. This is what we have to come to and we are not far from this in our despair and the Creator knows how to extract the last hope out of us, squeezing out from us any hopes for the future because hope means that I know how to work with my will to receive and in this way. I work with my substance, we work with the wisdom of Kabbalah more with all kinds of things, but nothing helps. It is clear that nothing you can help me from now on except help from above. That the Creator will do the work for me. It is His work, it is the work of the Creator and this is what I am looking for and then the person can go forward and then there is no place for him to fall from this state because there is nowhere, for I have nothing. I only want and wait for what the Creator wants to do with me because I take it upon myself to do whatever he wants with me even when he is placed right on the earth. I cannot be lower than the earth, it is a great situation. I have nowhere to fall, I am ready for everything, I just wait and expect the Creator to start doing something with me. That is it.
13. S. (47:13) In the last writing it says that we have to believe in the state of lowliness in the Creator and say that in every case we believe in him, does it mean that we have to believe that he is good doing good in each and every case?
R. Of course, the Creator is good that does good in every situation in every case there is no action, in every action he is hundred percent good but how much we receive, how much we can decode this this depends on our correction but in truth from the perspective of the Creator there is only the upper light which is good and does good. There is nothing else, this is what he gives us this is how he changes us and with our ego we certainly accept it in different ways but if I am incorporated in the group I can prepare myself in such a way that any action from the Creator on me, I feel it as salvation, that the Creator elevates me from this level to a higher-level even though it feels to us in our will to receive, in our biological body or in our desires as something unpleasant. Because I understand that this is how the Creator works against my will to receive and in favor of the will to bestow.
14. S. (49:04) I see that Rabash writes about the person who rises to the spiritual level, why is Rabash is so certain that we cannot fall from that state because this is always dynamic that all kinds of criticisms and desires against it awaken, so why is he so certain that I will not have such problems?
R. When we rise on the ladder we go through all kinds of states, as I said yesterday, that it is written that a thousand times the righteous falls and gets up and that this is how we progress. That main thing is not to give up but to keep going and then from all the states we go through we can see that all those states are necessary for our progress and later when we come to actual spiritual degrees, we see that there are no states that we went through without reason, for no purpose but in every state, in all of its components they are all necessary, truly necessary and purposeful. That this is the only way we can develop and go these state and then we will not have any complaints that the Creator or the group did not do their work correctly, nothing like that. We will see that it is all in order to connect all of the broken pieces of the puzzle correctly for the end of correction but for now the main thing is to continue just continue.
S. When Rabash talks about subjugation is this the same?
R. Yes.
15. S. (51:33) In many writings we read that as if I am already in the feeling, as if the Creator enjoys my work, as if all the time. What is this state of “as if” where does it exist, do I need to do as if I have attainment?
R. As if I am in attainment as if I am in a process I understand and feel. Just imagine a baby, that he does not know what is being done to it, the mother changes its clothes and washes, feeds it, takes care of it in every possible way and the baby cannot help them in any way, just feels that something is done to him, he just feels the movement. Internally this baby, which is ourselves, we want to sympathize with what the Creator is doing to us, we go through all kinds of states, thousands of states we do not even find them just like the baby doesn't know where he is, what is this big world, no. We should nevertheless, imagine that everything we are going through the Creator sets this up for us to develop and we need to try to build an internal relation to the states we go through to build the correct relation to these states. This will promote us, we will progress anyway but if we to some extent sympathize with the way then we progress more quickly and smoothly.
16. S. (53:42) What is the meaning of earth?
R. The earth comes from the word desire (Ratzon) in Hebrew, it means within our will to receive within ego and on the lowest degree. Meaning now it seems to the person that he is not a man but an animal so we have the still, vegetative and animal degrees so if I am not on the human level, speaking level, that I want to resemble the Creator, as the word Adam, man, comes from the word, Domeh, similar. So then we are on the animal level and the animal level means beast. This is called the beast so all those people who are not internally threaded developing their soul, they are all called like a beast. The whole world is on the animate level and we can see that this is their goal and existence, to benefit themselves only within this life. Rising from the animate level to the speaking level, they do not get any impetus, no drive towards it, so this is how they exist for now. Gradually, as you can see, many people, thousands of them, are starting to see that they do want to shift to a higher level of development just like you. After all there are several thousands who were not here before I spoke to many Kabbalists who are not with us anymore. With the Rabash we used to travel to different Kabbalists that he met with and they were all studying alone, maybe they had one or two others with them perhaps. People did not want any of that, only the physical life and today the physical life is already so confused and it is getting harder and harder. Just wait what will happen in the next few years so people will want to rise to a different state, to a higher-level so along with the physical decline there will be a spiritual elevation.
17. S. (56:49) How can we pass on the importance of the darkness to friends who do not see this as important?
R. By being with them doing physical actions even if they do not understand the spiritual importance in it. If they are with us in the corporeal actions it will gradually influence them and they will be incorporated in the spiritual actions as well this is how there is growth. When children are born they are like animals that there is no difference, they might even be worse. As it is written a day old calf is called an ox. When a calf is born from a cow in two days it can already walk and can search for food and what to do with itself, it will not be lost anymore. A two day old human baby, what can it do, is just a piece of flesh so we should not calculate according to what we see with our physical eyes the spiritual development is actually the opposite, will succeed.
S. If a friend falls to a state of complete loneliness is this the fault of the 10, because of us it happens or should we pull him out of that state?
R. The fact that he fell it is not your fault but the fact that you have to help him, this is correct but help him gently. Do not be forceful or rough on him, seemingly want to correct him and yank him to bring him up to the level you want. Just support him, show him how connected you are and that through the connection the Creator can influence the group, the power of connection is the power that can eventually win.
18.
S.
(59:25)
The
10
is
the
only
vessel?
How
in
the
10
can
we
reach
being
as
one
man
in
one
heart
and
how
to
maintain
this
connection
between
the
friends?
R.
It
comes
to
us
out
of,
gradually
dresses
in
us,
I
can't
really
explain
it.
Just
as
I
can't
say
what
will
happen
a
minute
from
now
because
it
all
comes
according
to
the
general
system
of
Adam
HaRishon
and
it
opens
up
before
us
every
single
moment
more
and
more.
Therefore
about
the
ways,
the
new
ways
that
we
are
going
through,
it
is
very
hard
to
say
anything
about
them.
It
is
not
as
when
we
speak
about
one
person,
until
today,
until
the
last
generation,
but
before
our
time
as
Baal
HaSulam
says
each
one
advanced
in
a
way
that
you
could
say
he
will
advance
and
he
will
advance
and
you
and
you,
each
one
had
his
own
path,
inclination
and
tendency
and
this
is
how
each
one
advances.
But
now
we
are
advancing
in
a
system
and
we
are
not
yet
in
the
system,
we
haven't
built
this
system,
we
are
still
not
in
at
10.
We
only
say
that
we
are
and
that
we
want
to
be.
For
now
we
are
just
talking
about
it
and
wanting
it.
Therefore
we
are
still
not
in
the
new
system
which
is
called
the
last
generation,
but
as
then
in
the
previous
states
before
the
last
generation
it
was
clear
to
us
how
to
advance
and
now
we
are
scrutinizing
with
you
what
are
the
stages
of
development,
advancement
in
the
one
system,
the
last
generation.
Until
our
time,
each
of
the
Kabbalist
corrected
himself
individually.
Now
the
upper
light
is
influencing
in
such
a
way
that
it
is
called
the
last
generation,
the
Messiah,
the
force
that
pulls
the
whole
desire
from
below
upward,
from
the
whole
common
broken
desire
of
Adam
being
pulled
to
connection.
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19. S. (01:04:51) From your experience how were you successful in working above your will to receive because the more that we work on a higher degree we feel our will to receive always wants pleasures and fulfillment. On one hand I feel myself far away from the work and on the other hand I feel the importance and responsibility. So why does our will to receive become so sensitive and so hungry?
R. First of all, of course our will to receive is sensitive because it is big. From generation to generation the will to receive grows larger, the records that awaken in us are greater and more important, more ruthless, cruel. We see it in the world, how the world is developing. What I went through, I will tell you there is nothing but patience. It is also written in the wisdom of Kabbalah, anything but leave. Take the example of Rabbi Akiva who constantly bowed his head and let the waves go over his head and this is how he reached the shore. First of all this seems very simple and no one wants to hear these things. Here lies the difference between all kinds of different situations in our lives because by this we give the Creator a place to work, we let him work. I don’t just wait, I try. And this is done through the group. A person alone doesn't remember it and cannot be in it. Through the influence of the group we nevertheless from day-to-day get up for the lesson, have a few talks among us and we return in our thoughts to the process that we are going through, and from day-to-day we do this. Day in and day out and at the same time all of us are waiting for the results from the work of the Creator. Not from our work but from the work of the Creator on us. That’s it. I am not particularly successful compared to others who came to the wisdom of Kabbalah. No, I actually have a big ego and very unsuccessful or suitable qualities that I have. I am serious. So patience. Where would I go, where would I run to? You tell me. Do you have any other engagements in this world besides the wisdom of Kabbalah? This is why when I discovered it I didn't think that there could be anything else besides this and this is the way it is for each and every one. Everyone has an angel, a higher force that exists that is hidden in his soul and awakens him and brings him to the place of development. Where do you go? To some religion? All the religions are a result of the wisdom of Kabbalah. To science? I was in science, I got a University degree but so what? I didn't see what else to do with myself. When I came to the wisdom of Kabbalah this is why I felt that this was the top, there is nothing more than that. Afterwards you need many years of patience, despair and work, learning, teaching and gradually it accumulates. But today it is already different. You have a big environment with the lessons, the internet everything is recorded and everything is accessible. In every moment you go into the archive or wherever you want in our systems, you have everything in front of you, and the groups. Today I don't see that there is any difficulty and besides from day to day we are advancing. Otherwise I wouldn't be giving lessons daily. Every day when I come to a lesson I have a portion that I have to present to you and I feel each day to what extent the portion that I am giving can be higher and higher up. I measure this and I am very happy that this is happening every day.
20. S. (01:11:27) About despair on the path, in our world despair happens when I despair of getting a certain goal, I give up. Kabbalists write about despair of one's own forces. What are the differences between these two kinds of despair?
R. You tell me. If I can advance from degree to degree only by the influence of the upper force on me, and it will elevate me, but I am like a little boy and I'm now in my state and I want and I want to do something with my own strength, to rise to a higher level. These seem to be silly actions that I can't do. There's a reason why all these ascents are called the work of the Creator. It’s what He does on us. But each time when I give up, every single state, by this I seemingly release the Creator to do the work, either by praying to him or even if I don't pray, the place remains empty with my Despair. And then the Creator can bestow and influence. If I want to attain spirituality with my ego then there is still no room for the Creator. If I give up, the place becomes emptied of my pride and there the Creator can work. This is why it says that there is no happier state in a person's world that finds himself despaired of his own forces. He despairs of his own strength, he gives up on his own strength because he did everything that he could and there is no remedy because he is ready for a true prayer to the Creator and then the Creator operates on him and does the work. This is why our despair is a despair that advances, a despair when a person gives up on the ego to which he was connected and that he believed. Now he gives up on that and finally understands that by himself he cannot do anything and only the Creator will do the work for him. This is why this work is called the work of the Creator.
21. S. (01:14:25) You always recommend that we look at the friends, they are working and I should do the same, but the result because the work is internal I don't know exactly what is happening within the friend, so I can't make the difference between a Kabbalist and a regular person. So how can I know the inner work that the friends are doing?
R. You will never know the inner work of another person. What is the inner work? What he does with his will to receive? And with the Creator who relates to him and is revealed to him? You will never know this because each one operates from within his own desire, and only on the level and the plane, the circle of his desire. By this he attains reality, the world himself, others, the Creator. It all exists within his vessel. What is outside his vessels he does not know. This is why we can never attain someone else.
S. So when you advise us to look at the friends working, what do you want to tell me about this? How should I observe them?
R. Look at it the way you look at it. At how much they on the surface, externally support one another, and you'll discover that you envy them. I look at them and see that they are speaking to each other in a way that I envy them. They feel one another in a way I don't feel them, etc. If you are advancing correctly you will always see that they are at a higher level than you that is the law.
22. S. (01:16:55) How to turn difficulties in corporeality to work in spirituality?
R. In corporeality meaning in our world, in our life?
S. Yes, how to turn it into spiritual work?
R. I don't understand. You mean that you have hardships at work with the family with your neighbors, things as such?
S. Yes, my environment, what's happening in the world.
R. Put that aside. These are things that accompany us on the animate level and we are discussing between us how can we connect and establish the speaking degree, the spiritual degree. You don't want to get confused between this and that. When you come to the spiritual degree you connect to the friends spiritually and you’ll understand how that works, and then gradually you will also be able to relate the corporeal world to the spiritual world and not otherwise. Otherwise you will just be confused. You have not yet attained spirituality and already want to understand corporeality as a result. That’s really a place for failure.
S. So corporeality isn't even material to work with for spirituality?
R. Of course not except for the group but the group itself its structure is already spiritual.
23. S. (01:19:00) What exact result am I expecting from the work of the Creator?
R. From the Creator’s work I expect to have the possibility to agree with Him with whatever I have and wherever I am. To be thankful to the point that I am thankful for everything that there is. To try to connect to as many people as possible. To try to see that all of reality belongs to that upper force that governs all of reality, and although people don't understand that they are all advancing towards correction, results from the revelation of the Creator's work is everything that there can possibly be.
24. S. (01:20:23) So it turns out that the work of the Creator isn’t so difficult if you work with the friends through the 10 towards the Creator?
R. That is correct. Keep doing this work in the group and of course it needs to be this way, and if it's not difficult that’s even better. I'm happy to hear that.
25. S. (01:20:52) In the beginning you drew the sketch of the ego and the Creator above it. Can we in every movement and motion in order to reveal the Creator put this before us like its binoculars, and then I will understand where I am?
R. What I drew is the most general form of the two worlds, the corporeal world and the spiritual world. The ego in the corporeal world where we live and exist, if we want to also feel the spiritual world we don't exit the ego, we remain in it and just relate to it differently. That here we make the restriction and the screen and we rise to the reflected light in the feeling of the spiritual world but this ascent is also based on our ego. This is called that one is greater than his friend, his inclination is greater than himself. We end up with this, from 0 to 4 levels of coarseness, 0 1 2 3 4. The more that I use a deeper will to receive my reflected light is accordingly and I attain the world of Assiya. Then I work with my will to receive to a deeper extent and I rise to the world of Yetzira and then the world of Beria and Atzilut all the way to Ein Sof, that’s how it is. We always work with our ego. You can't work without the ego. One who is greater than his friend, meaning higher, why is he higher, because his inclination is greater, he's working with a greater will to receive. Do you know what level of ego Kabbalists have, how cruel they are on the inside, how horrible, but they know how to hold that, restrict it and use it only in order to bestow. Otherwise you would see these aren't human beings, it is the general ego of the whole universe. The whole universe’s ego is in them. So just wait what you are going to discover. But you will discover it according to the screen that you will hold in order to bestow.
26. S. (01:24:50) All the excerpts we read about faith above reason I'm trying to find my feeling in these and I can’t. It seems very distant. How can I during the day work with the friends if I don't have these vessels?
R. Read these quotes as they are. These quotes or other quotes, it doesn’t matter. We have some 70 quotes in this document, read them. You can jump from the beginning, to the end, to the middle, wherever you want as long as you don't let go of the subject matter. And then bit by bit you are drawing the upper force, the upper light as you are reading it together. And you are receiving these quotes from the Kabbalists. You draw the upper light which exactly establishes these degrees of faith above reason for you, and you will see how these things clothe on each other and you will begin to feel how we live in the spiritual world. It is not like in the previous generations because we are already the last generation.
27. S. (01:26:25) How can we get this empty point as a 10 in order for the Creator to build a spiritual vessel for us?
R. We don't need to be an empty point, no. We need to be as connected as we can and desire to achieve the form of bestowal as much as possible, and then we come to a state where we see that we can't do any action of bestowal, any action of connection, and then we cry to the Creator for help and then Creator saves us. This is how it works.
28. S. (01:27:34) How can we keep the ego when it explodes, when it bursts out when we lose control? What can we do in order to use that force in the 10 in order to advance?
R. It will come. Also from the despair that you cannot attain, you want to attain, you cannot do it, together it will come. Ultimately it all ends up as a prayer to the Creator that becomes more and more to the point. And so according to this prayer you direct how the upper light influences you. The Creator is not like some reality, like a person who is listening, no. By addressing this force that exists in reality whose desire is to benefit the created beings, when we work towards it we aim it towards ourselves. It’s not like it has thoughts of changing itself towards us. We depict the Creator like a person like us, no, that's incorrect. It's a system that is working entirely in bestowal, 100%. We can’t call it corrected because it was never broken. So by our prayer we have to try to extract from it whatever is useful for us on our way to resemble it, be similar to it. So we're saying it in our language, but these requests, they build a deficiency in the force of bestowal and it influences us in a way that it's more and more specific.
29. S. (01:30:07) We are working above reason and we feel that we're not advancing. Maybe there is some other desire that we have to increase above our reason?
R. We have work in this space that is connection, and we have to do as many actions as we can in order to bring about connection during the lesson, before the lesson, and then at least twice a day to also work in connection, and read, learn, and communicate some messages. The main thing is to read. I can't tell you otherwise. When I started being closer to Rabash he gave me his notebook called Shamati. I photocopied it, I gave it back to him, and then I always read from it. Then when he started writing to us all the articles for the students, I started reading them as well, and I photocopied it for the others. What I'm trying to say is to read more and more, to become integrated with what the Kabbalists want to convey to us. There are states where we should perhaps read more of the Zohar, but we will come to that. We will work through lack of time. If you had more time maybe I could give another lesson during the day, but I don't know. I'm afraid that with the overload people will be going in the other direction.
Excerpt 19 (01:32:49) Twice
30. S. (01:36:26) In this excerpt it says that the Creator enjoys this work, that we cannot depict The Creator as a human with human qualities, and a lot of time students ask if Kabbalah is a science, what does it mean that the Creator is happy? How do you explain that?
R. It is very clearly about this that the Torah speaks in the language of humans. How else would you express it if you explain it to a human being, about what it does, good or bad, in regards to what? If we are talking about desires, desires to receive and bestow, these are forces. So we need to symbolize them, and that's why we say that it is as if the Creator enjoys, or gets upset, or punishes and so forth. But in-and-of-Himself if we’re talking about Him, He is whole and above all of these discernments. But towards people we need to somehow symbolize Him, and that's why we talk this way. Think about this. We can talk about it more but essentially, you'll begin to feel it in your development. You will begin to feel that with regards to the Creator I really have nothing to say, it's only with respect to the human being. Also the Creator is called come and see, it's an image that I build within me, not that I find it outside of me, I don't know what's outside of me. Outside of me is called his essence, and the Creator is already a certain picture that I build within me, some system of bestowal, and that's the only way that we can do something. We don't come out of our ego. Even when we say that we go out to bestow, our ego remains. We build everything above it, faith above reason, the qualities of Bina, it's all above our ego, but thanks to our ego, on top of our ego. That's why we talked about the Creator in the same way. What's the Creator? Bo-re Come and see. What is to come? It’s in the will to receive, and then to see meaning through the quality of bestowal it paints a picture of the Creator. There is no Creator without a created being, no Creator without the creation. What is there then? There is something called His essence. We don't actually know what it is. It is the primordial root, the upper of the upper one, the thing that we cannot discuss. There will come a time when we will rise to such a degree, hopefully soon in our days that we will be able to talk about higher degrees, but in the meantime we are only discussing what we can build on top of our will to receive through faith above reason. So these spiritual images of the Creator, come and see, it is all about what we build above our will to receive, but we recognize this, we talk about this, we are aware of this and therefore there is no deficit in that because this is the stage of our development.
31. S. (01:40:53) The Creator gets contentment from my actions. Is the function of that for me to get fuel for the work or is it to establish the aim towards the Creator?
R. How the Creator takes it I don't know, all I know is what comes to me and according to that I can say. So the question itself is not really accurate. We feel the Creator to the extent that we bestow upon Him and in that we are in contact with Him.
32. S. (01:41:51) Today in the preparation we had an argument between two friends which really shows our request in the transition time. One friend said that there is pleasure and there's other pleasure and we're asking for pleasure to work above reason. And I will say that when we reach faith above reason we will have pleasure, but when we're asking for it now, because we’ve reached it, we’re asking to have forces to remain in the state of darkness and keep going. And then that will bring us to acquiring vessels of bestowal.
R. Alright I agree with you. We still don't have pleasure from being in bestowal in faith above reason but at least we are beginning to see that there is reason and there is faith above reason, this world and the upper world, these two degrees, and we are in some kind of contact with the spiritual degree, we feel it yes, no, understand it more or less, that already does give us some sort of satisfaction.
S. So we’re not asking for pleasure.
R. We never ask for pleasure. We're asking to know that our action is correct.
33. S. (01:44:13) The fact that the Creator is satisfied, do we feel that in the general heart or in our personal heart, and how do we discover that, on the screen?
R. It is hard for me to talk about it this way. The Creator is happy with us, how do we discover it? We still cannot check and depict it correctly because we lack discernments, we are missing some discernments. So the Creator is happy, unhappy, let's talk about it simplistically. If I try to think about the action of bestowal to the friends and through them to the Creator, if I want to direct myself to actions above my ego, then as a prior condition I consider that the Creator enjoys that. We have to direct ourselves to the Creator in a very sort of subtle way, not in every sense because then we will find ourselves in a state of people who pray all day and understand like they understand it on the street. Let's advance in our direction. I'm afraid to go in the direction that you bring up. There are a lot of ways to go wrong here. We will learn after we grow a bit stronger in faith above reason, and from there we can see what the reason is. Then we will learn how from faith above reason, which the group of Abraham had, how they descended through the burdening of the heart, through the growing ego. This is what’s called going to Egypt, the ego. So the ego that grew in that group brought them to a state where their reason became heavier, and they descended from faith above reason to reason. And that created all the religions and belief systems in our world including Judaism, Islam, Christianity and many others that also began from originating in Abraham, that he communicated to the east and so on. When we will firmly stand on faith above reason and from there we will also be able to see how those so-called spiritual cultures emerged. It all comes ultimately from spirituality, how they were born and emerged and developed in this world, meaning in the will to receive inside the ego.
34. S. (01:48:28) You've told us that the Creator doesn't exist until we create Him. But we talk about an upper world and in your diagram you showed us something above our world, above the world of the ego. I'm just wondering, how do the qualities of the Creator, how are they expressed in our world, how do we build The Creator in our world?
R. We're not talking about that and I don't want to hear about it, you can only get confused. In our world there is no image of the Creator. There is nothing in our world, only the ego governs, only the ego rules in this world. The Creator is built by ‘you have made me’. We make this image and this image is not in the form of a person, it’s a system that is built entirely above the will to receive through the restriction, screen, reflected light. That’s how we build the levels of bestowal that are collectively called Creator. And it's from the word Bore, come and see. Meaning if you come through the barrier and enter the spiritual world and acquire all these discernments in order to bestow, then there you attain The Creator. This is called come and see, this is what opens before us. It's not that we study Him in this world, in our ego. We can only learn what happens here with psychology, philosophy, religions and belief systems which are all talking from within the ego of the human. For that you don't need to rise into any discernments of bestowal, you don’t need to detach from our ego. I am not against religions, they exist as a preparation for the attainment of true spirituality, and there is room for all of them.
35. S. (01:51:21) He told a friend that we're not searching for pleasure in our desire but we get awareness about the correct actions. How do we do the right actions?
R. This acknowledgement that we received, this is the joy. That I enjoy belonging to the will to bestow, to the Creator.
S. I understand that there are two states. One is the ideal way, that the Creator is concealed and to work above reason. Could there be a state that we work our whole corporeal life only in concealment without getting revelation? Our whole 70 or 80 years are only concealment?
R. It all depends on the person but nothing ends, we keep going. You think that you are going to so quickly get rid of your soul that has to reach correction? So there's going to be more life Cycles and more discernments.
S. And only in concealment and faith above reason we work, not from revelation?
R. Of course. You need to bring your part of the soul back to its place in the system of Adam HaRishon in a corrected form. That’s your work.
S. So could there be a state where we work in concealment our whole corporeal life?
R. But the concealment in the corporeal life is revelation in the spiritual life. When I hide my will to receive in order to receive and I work above it with restriction, screen and reflected light, by that I open, not hide, open, reveal the upper reality. And then I see that our world and whatever appears to us here is only built in order to build above it the spiritual system. It's the opportunity the Creator gave me to do this work. Otherwise He could have let me just exist in the world He created in a complete system of Adam HaRishon but then I would feel no more than what each and every element of our creation feels, meaning it doesn’t actually know where it is, what it is, who it’s connected to and so on. In order to allow us to perceive and become aware of the whole of reality, connecting to all elements of creation in complementary perfection, that's why we go through the shattering and the unfolding of the degrees from Ein Sof to our world, and also the creation of the soul and the shattering of the soul, and then more corrections that happened through the still, vegetative, animate and speaking. All that we went through in our world throughout history in these geological times, eras, and now as we are coming to the peak of human evolution in the corporeal world, we are now all beginning our spiritual evolution, and that's it. And you have to accept it because there is no choice, nobody's asking you about that. Just like no one asked you if you wanted to be born to your mother and father or not, you didn't choose any of that. Take a good look at your life and look at this map of where you are, and you will discover that you haven't chosen anything, and now you are soon coming to a point of choice, not there yet but already soon to come to the only point of choice in your life, and you have to unlock this state of choice and accomplish it and advance. Then you will be called Adam, similar to the upper force.
36. S. (01:56:52) How can it be that in reason it's concealed and we build something above reason, how does it happen?
R. Faith above reason means bestowing above receiving because now we're in the reason of the lower one, not the upper one. It's what we call reason now, a desire, reason, bestowing, reception, our life, and so on. Above that we need to build ourselves, just like we see in the excerpts.
Where are we, 19? Let's read 19 and we can answer a few more questions. So I’ll read it and maybe we can add.
37. R. (01:58:07) Rav Reading: What is the talking about it says in other words all the concealment and afflictions, it is spiritual development it's because the Creator of sending these states as none is beside him and it all comes from him for sure so he will send me a place to work above reason, that's why he sent all these states. That is why all these states are unpleasant, it'll be easier for a person to get rid of them to overcome them towards the Creator when one has strength in his hands to say this. That the Creator causes all of this then you can rise above reason that the Creator causes all this, it is to one’s benefit, in order to raise him in order to overcome these can work in order to bestow and not for his sake Rav reads...We can see that only in faith above of reason we can rise above that and keep going continue reading... I really don't know what else you can ask but I'm sure you'll find something
38. S. (02:00:55) If there is only, essence of the Creator outside of my vessel, who am I aiming to bestow to?
R. You are aiming to bestow towards the general force that fills and exists in all of reality that you are depicting to yourself, what are you yearning for, to reveal him, to attain him, to resemble him and to live in him. The general force of bestowal that fills all of reality. That in all of reality there is this little bubble that we exist in and what we want to come out of it and discover the true reality, the upper reality.
S. So you're saying I'm receiving from him in order to give him, I'm receiving from him in order to bring back to him so what does that mean?
R. I didn't understand the question, repeat please.
S. You said connect to him in order to receive from him the common force of bestowal so I'm connecting and living inside that general force. I am receiving but also giving, I'm receiving from you a certain amount but I'm also giving it back to you so what does it mean?
R. Obviously we need to receive from the Creator everything he wants to give us and by this we give him pleasure back, we cause pleasure in him by being able to give the Creator and he's the source of bestowal, he wants to bestow and that's what we understand and that's what we feel from Him and that is what the Kabbalists tell us about Him. When He bestows us He enjoys it. That's why we need to reach a state that we will receive from Him. When we receive from Him we can receive more than what we call this world, in order to truly receive everything that is only possible to the extent that we bestow in equivalence of form and become closer to Him. That's why we must reach a state that we will be just like He is bestowing towards us, we would want to bestow to Him, only He bestows to us directly in the form of bestowal and we have nothing to bestow back, we will bestow by receiving from Him and enjoying it, enjoying this reception. Above this reception that we're enjoying we are also going to enjoy not wanting to enjoy the reception itself but we prefer to enjoy bestowal that we cause to Him and then it will become reception that it's entirely in order to bestow. We have to think about it but it's not simple to express. I agree I'm happy that you have these questions.
39. S. (02:05:44) When it’s so dark how can I understand that in that moment the Creator wants me to give Him, when I feel a distance much bigger in relation to what the Creator wants from me?
R. I didn't hear the translation. Repeat, please.
S. When we do feel the darkness, this kind of sensation, how can we cover this opposite to feel that darkness is to get closer to the Creator?
R. I gave you a solution. The moment a person feels darkness, he through the friends, the environment, he needs to understand that he has an opportunity to rise above the darkness that the darkness that the Creator invites in him is like an opportunity to rise above it, that the Creator awakens darkness in the state of reason that he will rise above reason. Then he’ll feel that it's not a blow or a punishment from the Creator but great help, that the Creator awakens darkness and by that helps him run to ‘faith above reason’, that specifically when he has darkness. I cannot think of myself and think of the Creator, because to think of myself is darkness and to think of the Creator is more pleasant. Even my ego is aiming me, that’s called help against that is aiming me to turn to the Creator by bestowing to Him, by giving to Him, by ascribing himself to Him, by that I have pleasure. That's why the feeling of darkness is a certain awakening from above in order to aim us to the source, and the Creator awakens that darkness, as its written ‘you have day and you have night.’
S. How a student feels pleasure in the darkness? How can we reach this level because I still don’t feel it? How can we all from the world Kli or me personally reach this state?
R. Speak about it all of you, as much as the darkness comes in order to direct you towards the Creator, towards the light. It’s in a very rational, simple way that if I want a child to not go somewhere, I want him to get fear from that place, darkness from that place so he’ll move away from it. If the Creator awakens such feelings in us, in our will to receive, so He helps us to rise above our will to receive. It's natural, we use it in our life, just the problem is that nobody passes it to the other, you don't speak about it, that's a problem.
S. I was impressed when Rabash, you told us, who stopped to smoke. Because a person was smoking in front of him, and he was there quiet, actually he was waiting for that moment so someone could bother him on the material plane. Is this a state where I really have to elevate myself to a state to do something for humanity? Is this the level that I wish for everyone?
R. I don't know, I'm a bit confused from your question. You’re connecting Rabash to humanity with smoking, I don't know. Scrutinize it and maybe we'll be able to answer it correctly.
40. S. (02:11:41) How can we reach the point of free choice? Can we only get there by developing a desire for it and what is the choice when we get there?
R. We can't speak about the choice yet. Sorry but all the topics that we talked about before it's just to state that something like that exists. But now that we're opening faith above reason we're going to have to also open all kinds of topics, and the freedom of choice is something very essential and big. That's why I hope we're going to study it, but not now.
41. S. (02:13:02) What does it mean to learn the use of the light and the screen and the reflected light in order to open this reality before the Creator?
R. That it is all under our control, that we know how to use the upper light, and that it will correct us and perform all these actions in us.
42. S. (02:14:12) How can I measure in my heart what are my actions against my friends, within reason or above reason?
R. How can you measure your actions in reason and above reason? That, again, as we were saying that if all kinds of bad states are revealed in my reality, I can rise above them in bestowing to the Creator, in bestowing to the friends and through that I gradually measure, I locate what it means in reason and above reason. Above reason is usually when it's above my ego, that's how I check it. I can't measure my ego yet, one, two, three, four, and the magnitude of faith and according to it, I can’t do that yet, I can’t measure it yet. But gradually we'll reach it, soon.
43. S. (02:15:59) About the excerpt nineteen we just read, it says that a person reaches an understanding and he understands that the Creator enjoys his work. This understanding is an understanding that is also felt above reason or we come to an understanding that we pray to the Creator when we need to achieve some relaxation?
R. It's all above our mind, it's all in the force of bestowal, the force of faith. It’s not like we think. It’s everything we go through, everything, from the world of reception to the world of bestowing. The world of bestowing is built above the world of reception but still we measure, we live, we exist all in the force of bestowal.
44. S. (02:17:12) He starts by saying that the person says that all the concealments are because the Creator has sent him these states and when he has the strength to say this, that the Creator causes him all of this and so on, what does it mean that the person says it? I can say it, why is it not just lip service?
R. No, it has to be in the heart.
S. So what does it mean that a person says?
R. He says it in the heart. All the feelings have to be in the desire, the desire is the heart.
S. If it’s not in the heart, so I can say it and in practice it for two days
R. Gradually as you say, you put it on the heart and it enters the heart. If you work in the group, in the studies in a constant way, you will see that it gets in there.
S. That he says that the Creator certainly enjoys this work?
R. He also gets such a feeling. Where it comes from, still there is surrounding light that works on them and gets such a feeling.
S. Why do we need then revelation?
R. Because it gives a person the feeling of connection with the Creator. That’s the purpose of creation to reach unification, unity, adhesion.
S. But if he's in a state where he says the Creator enjoys this work and I don’t mind?
R. It’s not adhesion yet, there is a difference between them. Adhesion is something you can’t say in words, it’s when you feel in one desire, in one heart, in bestowing, ‘me for my beloved and my beloved for me’ that are in a complete connection.
S. So he’s happy with that state or not, because he doesn’t have Dvekut (adhesion) yet?
R. Where?
S. The person who’s in a state of the concealment of the face says thank you for just working this way, he doesn’t want anything?
R. There is a period where he doesn't want anything because he wants to clothe himself in order to promise that it will be in bestowal. But if he's sure that he’s already in bestowal, so he wants adhesion, to attain it in a revealed way because he’ll have a greater screen. You see, not that the Creator has concealed himself, he's concealing the Creator, then he’s in adhesion beyond that. That's already a different class.
45. S. (02:20:23) What's more certain, to directly aim at ‘faith above reason’ or all the actions that build that state ‘above reason’ like in incorporation, and so on?
R. Both. I understand that there is people here that for them this whole matter of ‘faith above reason’ is very virtual, unrealistic, not actual. But we’re in the last generation, we need as quick as we can to hasten. That's why I didn't teach these things in the previous years, but now the pandemic, all this development, it’s supposedly we’re given permission to start speaking out in the open what ‘faith above reason’ is, how to go in there, how to reach a state that the Creator will hate us and we’ll reach it. Still, we must for the first time in history from the opposite state, as we say from ‘the exile’, get into redemption. By this we are breaking through and all of humanity will also need to go through it.
S. What’s the focal point, what should we focus on in order to work directly towards ‘faith above reason?’
R. What we speak about in the lessons, go over each and every lesson. The more time you can, listen to it all the time, from beginning to end, each and every lesson. You don't have to do anything with your brain, just listen from beginning to the end. Listen to every lesson we’re going through these times on the topic of ‘faith above reason’, and don’t be wise, just listen.
46. S. (02:23:36) Is it possible to somehow check and clarify that I am in ‘faith above reason’ or that I was, and or ‘faith above reason’ is something completely contradictory?
R. We go into ‘faith above reason,’ we’ll gradually feel that we have a way to measure our states, but not yet. It's a matter of a week or two, and you'll be able to measure the states above reason.