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Daily Lesson (Morning) January 29, 2025.

Part 2: The Creator is the Place - Selected excerpts from the sources. #7.

Reader: We are in the lesson on the topic of “The Creator Is the Place”. We will be reading select excerpts from the sources. We are right now in excerpt number 7 from Baal HaSulam. “The Creator is the Place”, select excerpts, Excerpt Number 7. 

7. Baal HaSulam, Shamati, Article No. 98, "Spirituality Is Called That Which Will Never Be Lost"

Reading: (00:22) A real place in spirituality is called “the place of reality,” since anyone who comes there, to that place, sees the same shape as the other. Conversely, something imaginary is not regarded as a real place since it is imaginary, and then everyone imagines it differently.

When we say “seventy faces to the Torah,” it means that they are seventy degrees. In each degree, the Torah is interpreted according to the degree one is in. However, a world is a reality, meaning that anyone who comes to any of the seventy degrees in that world attains the same form as all the other attainers who came there.

M. Laitman: Questions? 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:17) Is that lack enough in order to be in that reality? Or do we also need to be in bestowal? 

M. Laitman: If you want to feel something spiritual, it can only be according to the extent of the quality of bestowal that you have attained.

Student: And beyond the lack, let's say two people are in the same reality. Is it also a deficiency for bestowal and also that we're bestowing to the same extent? 

M. Laitman: They discover one reality but in each one, it's clothed in a different way. 

Student: And that's not called “imagination” according to the excerpt? 

M. Laitman: No. 

Student: Because it's by bestowal? 

M. Laitman: It's according to their vessels.

Student: If they're in the same reality or in the same world and degree, like he writes, what then is different between them?

M. Laitman: The desire is controlling them, what they reveal. 

Student: And also, when each reaches a certain reality because it's upon his desire, his imagination as he writes; then it's different in each?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So, what do they connect? 

M. Laitman: And what do they connect? That's if they have something common between them.

Student: Does bestowal to one another connect? 

M. Laitman: Bestowal to one another connects between them, yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (04:20) Before bestowal can we say that we're all together in the same world, or is each in his imaginary world? 

M. Laitman: Each one in their own world. 

Student: And then, there's a certain measure, we enter bestowal, and then we can say that it's the same world? 

M. Laitman: By hearing about bestowal, we already start somehow to come closer to one another.

Student: What makes it a mutual world when we say that everyone sees the same?

M. Laitman: A mutual world comes to be mutual.

Student: What's common between two Kabbalists who are on the same degree of bestowal? What becomes mutual between them? 

M. Laitman: Mutual between them is that each one feels the other the same way the other feels him. 

Student: The other is the same, the other Kabbalist, or altogether the other?

M. Laitman: The other Kabbalist. 

Student: And how, well first, one was in his dream, now he's saying, we're feeling the same thing, with certainty? 

M. Laitman: In certainty under the condition that they connect in the Creator.

Student: Yes, because they're in a measure of bestowal? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: Then they're both measuring towards the Creator and one towards the other. And they're saying we're in the same world?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Reader: Number 8 by the Rabash . 

8. RABASH, Article No. 462, “Blessed Is the Place [Creator]”

Reading: (06:53) We say, “The Place will comfort you among the mourners of Zion and Jerusalem.” That is, because all the afflictions that exist in the world derive from the concealment of the face, we say “The Place will comfort you.” In other words, this place called “creation,” which He created with the intention to do good to His creations, will be in revelation of the face, and then “They shall all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them.”

This is the place of the world, meaning that He fills the lack of the world, but the world is not His place. In other words, the world does not fill His lack because He has no lack that needs to be filled. That is, the only reason we need to work in order to bestow is only for our sake, so as to have equivalence of form, and not that He needs anything.

M. Laitman: Understood?

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (09:12) What kind of creation is it that the parts inside it are constantly searching for their place? A person doesn't know what his place is, he's constantly searching like a machine, that the parts are always… What kind of creation is that? 

M. Laitman: That's creation to begin with, that's how it was created. What's the problem? 

Student: That is the problem, it never works.

M. Laitman: It doesn't work so that you will see how it doesn't work, and reach the correct role in this. 

Student: So, how should I understand this? What are they trying to tell me? What should a person understand that he can never find his place, he's constantly searching for his place. What's the message here? 

M. Laitman: He raises MAN wanting to see the world from the form of the act of One Force. And then he gradually discovers this force.

Student: Which force? 

M. Laitman: The force of connection. The One Force. 

Student: Could we say, what then? That a person can – let's say, I don't know – reach some rest in his Ten? Where to aim, what to go towards, with that deficiency that he's constantly seeing? 

M. Laitman: I don't understand what you're asking.

Student: This place that a person is searching for, where will we find it? The place for his heart. Place is also the Creator behind this word. There're so many meanings that it's, it doesn't let you rest, constantly. 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: So, I'm asking what's the inner work a person needs to do, and how is it may be connected to his Ten? 

M. Laitman: Only prayer. 

Student: Prayer for what?

M. Laitman: For the Creator to bring him to that place. 

Student: And that's still not revealed to us, that place?

M. Laitman: No.

Student: No? Isn't it supposed to be our Ten or something that we're learning about?

M. Laitman: No.

Student: Okay, it's like we're in some space or something, I don't know.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (13:07) In the correct state – the most corrected state – a person feels that creation is constantly in motion. And he's at rest with this motion or everything stops moving and he's always in one state? How does he experience creation in a pure state?

M. Laitman: Yes. You can say that in a corrected state a person reveals creation being in some stop, in some pause. And from that state, he receives upon himself, takes upon himself, this force of movement in order to reach the next station. That's it?”

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (14:52) It's written that every person is a world on its own. We say that the world that you see and the world that I see, are two different degrees? Even though we're sitting in the same room. 

M. Laitman: It doesn't matter where we're sitting, it's simply not possible to check.

Student: In the end, he writes that bestowal is for us, not that we're doing it for someone or for some force. So, why is he writing it that way?

M. Laitman: According to the force of bestowal that we develop, we become more and more closer to the Creator. 

Student: I'm a bit confused, I want to understand, let's say now I'm sitting with my Ten. I see them, let's say for example, I have my life, I have my reality, and next to me, there's a friend that has his reality. So, where are we connected, what's the connection with the friends here if each one is in his own reality? Where are we connected?

M. Laitman: In the Creator. We are connected in the Creator to the extent in which we come close to that.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (17:03) When a person is in a place that he has no relation, like in the sea or in the desert. So to know his place, he needs a compass, or a certain star, or a point to relate to, and a map. Here, we're told that to know our place, a person needs a relation to the Creator and a relation to the friend, and that is enough to compare between them. 

M. Laitman: Actually, yes.

Student: How can that define a person's place? 

M. Laitman: The place can be defined by three conditions, yes, by three details. And here he explains to us that a person can understand the place he's in from two parameters, kind of – I don't know how to explain it now. 

Student: How can we compare between those parameters, a relation to the friend or a relation to the Creator? What's the point of?

M. Laitman: Our attitude towards the friend and our attitude towards the Creator, we can connect the two of them to one goal. Which is actually not a friend and not the Creator but, rather I, who is aimed precisely to my center. And then I reach the goal.