Morning Lesson October 29, 2023

Transcription is made from simultaneous translation, which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio

Part 2:

Baal HaSulam. The Peace -

An empirical, scientific research about the necessity of the work of the Creator

Reading (00:10 - 05:16) "The wolf shall dwell with the lamb and the leopard shall..”

1. S. (05:26) As much as I’ve read this article throughout the years, I still don't understand how you can prove the work of the Creator scientifically?

R. Let's go over this article together today, tomorrow, and we will see if we succeeded or not; but that's what he writes at the beginning of the article, “An empirical, scientific research”, meaning a scientific research based on experiments, laws, experimentation that necessitate us to accept the work of the Creator.

S. We are constantly saying that the base to research can only be above reason, the whole work, but science is in reason?

R. Well, above reason doesn't mean that we toss out reason, it just means it refers to how we relate to reason and to what’s above reason, how do we relate to these two degrees of the science, of the investigation, for the time being, to write questions.

2. S. (06:58) Baal HaSulam speaks here about the scientific, empirical approach is that we first perform an analysis, then we do a synthesis. What's the validity of this approach, why is this approach called scientific?

R. I don't know friends, we'll see, we will read together, nobody's concealing their questions here, write down the questions so you don’t forget and we will look at them and try and find the answers to those questions.

Reading (08:11 - 13:03) “Contradictions in Providence - Every reasonable person who examines the reality before us finds two complete opposites in it….”

3. S. (13:14) The headline of this article is The Peace, then it says, “there is no vessel to hold blessing for Israel but peace”; I don't feel there's any blessing.

R. I don't know, if I read two lines I can tell you of the whole article!

S. But what is this vessel that holds the blessing for Israel, what is that concept of peace?

R. I don't know Mister, I'm happy you have questions, and that more people have questions, and then it means that we can get answers.

S. So we don't know what peace is?

R. No, if I do know so, why do I have to read it and learn it?

S. What can I tell you, okay?

R. Okay, what can I say?

4. S. (14:13) What is he asking in this excerpt, why is there wholeness and imperfection, why things in the reality don't settle in our minds?

R. That before us we have a nature, that there's a collection of much confusion that we cannot digest, that's it. But on one hand, we have wholeness, on the other hand, lack of wholeness and the parts of the reality and the whole reality. Anyway, everything is really confused and messed up and we need to solve this problem. Otherwise we don't know where we are, what forces are conducting us and what do we need to do, especially in our times. And from generation to the next, from year to year, we feel that it's getting more complicated.

S. So, seemingly for that, it's a good sign, it takes natural phenomena and investigates it, as much as the human mind can tolerate it. And science truly advanced us in the last three hundred years?

R. Of course, nobody's saying anything against it but I guess it's not enough because we see that even with all the questions that science is asking, we still don't understand the laws of nature, where we are, what's going on, what's happening to us, what's happening before us? We don't know and then the question is what approach do we need to approach this with, that's the main thing and we will see that; so he's saying that against this we have a few methods.

Reading (16:20 - 17:59) “First Method: Nature - This method is an ancient one….”

5. R. (18:01) So that means the first method is nature, that's how it is from where, from itself, for what? Nobody knows, that revolves in such a way and that's it.

6. S. (18:26) Is peace possible without Gmar Tikkun?

R. We don't know what Gmar Tikkun, the end of correction, what peace is, we are reading the article and trying, through what we are reading, trying to understand it and we are not jumping to the end but according to what we are on the way in reading the article.

7. S. (19:08) We learned that reality works according to absolute laws, how is it different, a reality of absolute laws from this method called ‘nature’?

R. I don't know exactly what you are tending towards, but the determined laws are that we are in a net of connections called, ‘nature’, and this net of connections is a net constant and well organized and we should learn it. And when we learn it, we will understand how it activates us, works on us, how can we respond to it; but it still is a net of forces that between them there's nothing else but the laws of nature. You see, once we thought that nature had only organic laws, I don't know how to say it, of the still, vegetative, animate. That through that we developed everything. Now we're speaking about laws, upper psychological laws, the laws of the speaking, the laws that are between us. There are also some special relationships and we have to learn them and through that to understand who we are, what we are and so on.

S. What's lacking in this method as Baal HaSulam describes it calling it ‘nature’, is it lacking the goal, the purpose for which this whole business was created?

R. It could be that, not, because all natural development even on the still and vegetative, we see that there's still the purpose of development in there, and we can learn it and from learning it we can use it.

S. So what is the qualitative addition that the wisdom of Kabbalah has to add above this nature that he describes here?

R. That we are learning in a bigger depth that we cannot learn it from our senses; the wisdom of Kabbalah can help us research nature in the height that we ourselves can’t reach.

8. S. (22:41) How do I reach the perception that in the root of nature there's some reason, some knowledge, and not just simply mechanical laws?

R. Repeat please?

S. How do I come to feel that nature in its root has a mind and a desire and it's not just a collection of mechanical laws?

R. I don't know let's see what he writes first, let’s see, maybe we won't need inner levels, secret levels of nature, the Creator, but it'll be enough like anything through the vegetative, the still, vegetative and animate and we’re also part of the animate degree. We see that in nature things grow on their own, there are laws that are already in every part of nature, everything is ready for development and we don't need more than that. Well, let's keep going and we will see.

9. S. (24:50) He writes that, “even though He watches over the existence of reality with wondrous wisdom He is mindless”, is this a secular approach because they say there is, they believe someone who created it and watches it over but He's mindless, is this secular?

R. No, if you are going according to that method you have to say that to begin with there's no wisdom organizing all these things and wanting to bring them to some kind of result, but it's being, just revolving according to the laws that are already in nature. Okay?

S. Okay, because he says that they believe that there’s a Creator, someone who watches over in this method, but he said, is this a secular approach, that's my question?

R. I'm not separating between secular or religious, the matter is a lot more complex, so let's keep going and think.

Reading (26:17 - 28:12) “Second Method: Two Authorities - Others were more sophisticated..”

10. R. (28:15) So that's according to what we see in nature, it seems right: there's a good force and a bad force and two contradicting forces that are working between them, and all of nature is actually between the two. It could be that it’s right and that's how it works out and the third method is?

Reading (28:43 - 29:26) “Third Method: Multiple Gods - This method was born out of the bosom of the method of two authorities…”

11. R. (29:27) Yes, we all learned it, we all read it, that they thought that they thought that there’s an upper Force in each and everything, in fire and water and clouds, in everything, and those gods are conducting all of reality, next.

Reading (29:56 - 31:12) “Fifth Method: Left His Operation - Recently, when knowledge increased and they saw the tight linkage among all parts of creation…”

12. S. (31:14) So that's an approach, what can you say, I see that you all agree?

Reading continues (31:28 - 33:38) “Alongside these methods, there existed religious methods of Godly unity…”

13. R. (33:39) So here we have to ask Baal HaSulam says, “let's not search what's happening in nature, we could maybe not find anything, but let's look inside of us, in the approach to this research of nature of ourselves, of life, there we can find our mistakes or maybe a new approach, that let's get in there and see”. Will it give us some direction to advance?

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