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Daily Lesson (Morning) March 13, 2024.
Part 2: Rabash. Article No. 35, 1990. What Is “He Who Enjoys at a Groom’s Meal,” in the Work?
We are studying Rabash's article, “What Is He Who Enjoys at a Groom's Meal in the Work?" You can find it in the Rabash writings and in our sites. Again, “What Is He Who Enjoys at a Groom's Meal in the Work?" from Rabash. That's the article we are beginning.
Reading: (00:25) Rabash. Article No. 35, 1990. What Is “He Who Enjoys at a Groom’s Meal,” in the Work? “Our sages said, he who enjoys..”
M. Laitman: (38:18) Thank you, yes.
Question: (38:27) Faith is actually the importance of the Creator, it's the same thing, no?
M. Laitman: But if that is the way it is written, so show us!
Question: (38:43) He says that the moment the person has a revelation and… I'll ask it differently, there's none wiser than one with experience. Meaning, the most powerful experience is experience. And not what we experience in our flesh, he says that, “if a person comes to a revelation and that revelation controls his reason, immediately Malchut eludes him.” Meaning, the whole revelation, his whole connection goes, it all leaves. Meaning that the experience of that moment, what he felt, himself what he received is more important to him than to delight the Creator. So, as long as it's important for him to delight the Creator, more than what he feels, then that's actually being in faith. Then he can keep that connection with the Creator. That's why I'm asking whether faith is the importance of the Creator because it's basically the same thing because no matter what he feels or receives or doesn't receive it's almost always more important to him, the connection with the Creator.
M. Laitman: Yes, more.
Student: (39:53) In the last two paragraphs, they're talking about a state in which a person needs to relate to the bad as good. On one hand, they say that it's hard and the other, they say you have to go above reason if you don't see it. What is that work, meaning, it's against nature, you see that it's not good, and you need..?
M. Laitman: What do you mean ‘not good’? It is against nature but not that it's not good.
Question: That's exactly the question. There's such a discernment, a person feels a certain state and it's not good. Then our whole life leads us through such states, so what's the work in those points?
M. Laitman: That we always need to try to ascend above reason, rise above reason.
Question: This, to try, what is it, to pray?
M. Laitman: Ask to be above reason.
Question: Above that feeling that we feel?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Where do we adhere to? What?
M. Laitman: What the Creator gives.
Student: He gives not good in the feeling, but how do I adhere to Him?
M. Laitman: That you ask of Him to give you a feeling above reason, that you'll be able to adhere to it and be above that state that He revealed to you.
Student: This needs to become in my feeling that I'm kind of receiving it, because it's..?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: So what's the essence of this whole process where each time I'm bringing a new state that you cannot justify?
M. Laitman: That every time you get a new vessel above reason and you adhere to it and in it you want to feel a connection with the Creator.
Student: So actually our entire life needs to be in such a point. Bottom line in order to advance?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: (42:15) He writes here that everyone says that we have to go above reason, and there's a dispute between Shammai and Hillel, where Hillel says they have eyes but see not. Shammai writes about something else. He writes that it's difficult, and we know that our doctrine usually goes according to Hillel. So what's the difference in the work?
M. Laitman: What do you mean, what's the difference?
Student: In the work between their two methods?
M. Laitman: That we need to reach a state that we ask to always be above reason, to accept the bride.
Student: It goes, they have a deficiency, let’s say they have eyes but see not, kind of.
M. Laitman: Right.
Student: As opposed to me going in my reason.
M. Laitman: Okay. What's up with you? What, it's not clear? Well, to you it's obvious that it's not clear. There, who's sitting there?
Student: (43:50) It sounds like a person needs to consider the bride as the daughter of the King, and he sees this connection between the Creator and the Malchut to take place. I have a question about my wife: the corporeal wife I live with. Yes, but there's the matter of man and woman, divinity between them, the Shechina between them. So here I have to make sure that my wife will merit to be filled?
M. Laitman: I don't know.
Student: I just have to have a little question about this. I have to make sure that my wife will become closer to the Creator or do I need the Creator to be revealed between us?
M. Laitman: Better that the Creator will be revealed between you.
Student: It's kind of a special state. It's not that a person from the side there's Malchut and the Creator, and he's making sure that they'll come closer to it. He needs to be inside this coupling. It's different than, it's like a very, it's kind of a state that, do you understand where I'm, it's different.
M. Laitman: I don't understand.
Student: Here he's describing throughout the article how this Malchut, this general desire will be adapted to the Creator and we'll observe this coupling. The Creator's trying to bring them closer, and with his wife he needs to truly be inside, it's like he's not standing on the side, he's, what's the role that a person does when he's in a spousal situation?
M. Laitman: He has to be in his, with his wife in good relations, to try and be in a common understanding.
Student: And the Creator is between them.
M. Laitman: Yes, yes.
Student: (46:02) He talks really beautifully about how the bride is a whole state where a person doesn't think about himself, but it's all for the sake of the Creator.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: And then there's this dance.
M. Laitman: A dance where you jump up and down and ascend and descend, and between them there's more connection or less connection.
Student: Exactly, so what is this dance in the Ten? How do we dance in such a way in the Ten that it'll bring us to there's a bride at the end of the dance?
M. Laitman: In the Ten we need to depict to ourselves the connection between us, complete connection, whole connection, how we're all connected and we all start dancing towards the Malchut that connects us and raises us. That's called the bride for us.
Student: Do we also have to hold on to kind of rejoicing the Groom through this?
M. Laitman: Yes, of course. Of course.
Student: So what in the Ten is the relation, what's our attitude in the Ten towards the bride and towards the Groom in this dance?
M. Laitman: By jumping up and down, ascending, descending, we all want to connect together around the bride, and that the Groom will ride upon us and will give us an ability to be connected, to be connected and keep going in that way.
Student: So does it mean that we make the bride or see the bride as beautiful and gracious? What is it?
M. Laitman: That the connection between us that we want to attain in all our forces is a very nice connection even though we invest a lot of forces in it and it tires us, it exhausts us, but we definitely are inviting Him, we want Him to come and be revealed.
Student: In relation to that there’s ascents and descents?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Our dance sounds like something happy.
M. Laitman: It actually is. Even though the dance is our exertion that we are giving a lot of forces to it but along with that we.. how do I say it? Along with that we're happy because eventually we reach our bride to the Malchut of above. Same Nudniks, yes.
Student: (49:37) You said that this dance is a matter of ascents and descents?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Ascents and descents come from the Creator, right?
M. Laitman: Well, I don't know. It could be that it's still connected to us, that it's by us.
Student: That's what I'm asking. So what does it mean that we're dancing because I usually think that ascents and descents come from above.
M. Laitman: No. From above comes a force that we need to see it and feel it and accept it for the good, and through it we all connect.
Student: What is that we're dancing?
M. Laitman: Ascents and descents towards the bride.
Student: I don't understand. What do we do? Are we responding? What do we think?
M. Laitman: We respond, let's say, we’re responding towards the bride the way that she dances along with us.
Student: In feeling the work is just that all the states the Creator sends to us we need to try to hold on to faith above reason, that it's all to our benefit. Is that the work, kind of?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: (51:07) You gave a certain answer to a friend earlier that confused me. A Kabbalist receives a state that he feels as bad in his vessels. And now above reason he needs to see that it's for his benefit.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: In this world, when I feel bad, I try to solve it. I do something with it.
M. Laitman: So that's also to solve it, that you're turning to the Creator.
Student: Do I need mostly, that the bad that's revealed to me is a problem in the connection with the friends, let's say. So I turn to the Creator to correct that. Besides that, do I need to perform actions physically in order to correct it?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: The fact that I do physical actions to solve it, does that not contradict me turning to the Creator and Him telling me that it's all okay? How is everything okay and I'm still trying to change it?
M. Laitman: You're not trying to change it, the contrary. You want to keep what the Creator did with you and to raise yourself above reason?
Student: I didn't understand. A problem has been revealed. I'm trying to solve it in the corporeal world.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: The moment I try to solve this problem in the corporeal world doesn't that immediately say that I don't agree with the Creator, I’m not above reason?
M. Laitman: No, you accept that you're receiving this from the Creator. When you, well, let's say in a different way you want to solve it, it doesn't mean that you are rejecting what He did.
Student: So what does that mean? It means that I don't agree with Him. I feel bad. I want to correct it.
M. Laitman: You want to correct it, so why aren't you asking from Him?
Student: That's what I can't understand. I'm supposed to work, a Kabbalist is supposed to work on two planes. One on the spiritual level to go above reason like you explained to the friend earlier and in the corporeal world, correct what he sees in the corporeal world. Does one not contradict the other?
M. Laitman: No.
Student: Then how?
M. Laitman: Because it's two levels.
Student: What does it mean that it's two levels? I understand, I know that, but I don't, what does it mean? I'm also saying, I'm saying, correcting it, and I'm also saying, Creator, thank you for doing this. I don't understand how the two of them work together.
M. Laitman: You do what you can on your level and you ask the Creator to take care of it from His level.
Student: I don't understand what that is.
M. Laitman: Okay, so think about it a bit more and a bit more and you'll see that that's how it works.
Student: What does it mean that the Creator will correct things on His plane? What will happen after He does that action that I ask from Him and He will do? Let's say He'll give me an answer. What will then happen?
M. Laitman: Then He will equalize the feelings in you between what you feel and what He's doing.
Student: I don't understand.
M. Laitman: That you will understand each other.
Student: That I'd be able to justify Him?
M. Laitman: Justify Him you can say. That's easier, yes.
Student: Okay, thank you.
Student: (54:47) To continue the scrutiny that you just did, there's the dispute between the house of Shammai and the house of Hillel. The house of Shammai says that what was sent to me is okay, it's for the purpose of the work. The house of Hillel says I'm living in a lie. The house of Shammai don't say that: it's only for my benefit and you're going with it. Are those two levels of work?
M. Laitman: It's two different types of relation.
Student: But is one built upon the other?
M. Laitman: No, no, no, no. Each one on his own behalf.
Student: So I prefer the house of Hillel because the house of Shammai is very harsh.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: It's best to be with the desire to receive in such a manner that only I don't see that it's Good that does Good?
M. Laitman: Probably, yes.
Student: (55:50) What exactly are the conditions that the bride places and what does it mean that in the six days of labor a person gets used to, withstand the conditions that the bride puts forth?
Student: (56:12) It's written that the toil and work in the six days of action is to work to prepare for the conditions of the bride. What are those six conditions of the bride? What do we have to do during those six days to be able to observe her conditions?
M. Laitman: That we work on the desires that are revealed, and it is difficult daily work until we reach a state called Shabbat. That you see that there is no more work. That everything works out.
Student: This is to go in faith, always be in faith. That's actually the condition. So what is now during these six days of work? Well, there's ascents and descents sometimes. Sometimes you go with the spies. Sometimes with the Caleb and Joshua. What's the difference between the six days and the Sabbath? If this is to go in faith and that's also to go in faith, what do you get on the Sabbath as a result of that?
M. Laitman: On the Sabbath you get an additional force called the additional soul. By that, we are rewarded with connection.
M. Laitman: Same people. What?
Question Women Turkey 8: (57:56) What is our work in the six days and on the Sabbath? What's the difference?
Reader: A friend just asked a question about the six days and the Sabbath. So to continue that question Women Turkey 8 is asking: What's the difference in the work between the six days and the Sabbath?
M. Laitman: Difference between what?
Reader: Our work in the six days of the work and the work on the Sabbath. What's the difference between this and that?
M. Laitman: The work in the six days is the work that we need to do as he writes, that day after day there's a new state. The work on Shabbat is that you get a summary of all the previous days, and then when you connect all those days, you are rewarded for the Sabbath, as we say that you have nothing else to do, but all the work that you did throughout the six days connect and then comes the rest.
Student: Are there no actions from the side of the Creator being on this Shabbat?
M. Laitman: No.
Student: Are there certain cautionary issues in that?
M. Laitman: No, but not work.
Student: It is written that one can go with his eyes shut and hear all that he is saying, and she can talk with him. So, PT 29 were asking: What is that ability to go with your eyes shut?
M. Laitman: It is exercises that appear before a person and he needs to get used to go against them with his eyes shut. Meaning even though he doesn't see any justice in it, that it is right, doesn't really understand what is going on and confused, he still tries to keep that connection, what is demanded on those daily conditions and in this way he advances?
Question Women Turkey 9: (01:00:33) How do our eyes open up?
M. Laitman: Our eyes open only under the condition that we demand the quality of bestowal, faith, then the eyes can open.
Student: (01:01:01) Shabbat is also a state of faith above reason?
M. Laitman: Yes, that is the Shabbat.
Student: What does it mean that it is faith above reason and there is no work there?
M. Laitman: Why is there no work?
Student: Because now he said that Shabbat is rest that there is no work already.
M. Laitman: No work means that a person reached a state that for him it is not work.
Student: So what is the meaning here that a state of faith above reason that it is not work already because it sounds like faith above reason is an effort?
M. Laitman: That he doesn’t need to correct anything. Nothing needs correction, everything is corrected and connects into one action called Shabbat.
Student: That is maybe also a state called complete faith?
M. Laitman: Could be. Even though it is something else but…
Student: (01:02:36) A Ten that reads Rabash and knows that he put the Reforming Light into the articles, is that considered a dance?
M. Laitman: No, that is not called a dance yet. A dance are ascents and descents towards a state that appears.
Student: I didn't understand.
M. Laitman: Never mind it will all gradually come.
Student: My next question was: What does it mean to rejoice the Groom because there is this feeling that only from this dance we jump another degree and then that is the degree that delights the Groom?
M. Laitman: Yes, as much as we jump we give more pleasure to the Creator.
Student: (01:03:55) Rav it's not about the article but a very big deficiency that has risen and we have new students that are beginning and they have questions. Last week we started a very big physical course of new students and yesterday evening it was lesson number two. The course is in Rishon Hatzion, it's also here in Petah Tikva. Many students, 40-50 students and yesterday during the lesson there was the definition of the wisdom of Kabbalah according to Baal HaSulam and we knew who was coming and the revelation of the Creator to His created beings in this world, that was the definition. Two women came from Beer Sheva, traveling for an hour and ten minutes, two women who have been serving the audience for their whole life in their profession and one of them has two sons that are in the war right now that is experiencing everything, and the other one sadly, her son did not survive and with a very big deficiency and when we explained this world, the next world, and what it means, it's clear that the question is so what happens with those who did not survive? The words that we say are words we heard from you. There are things that we really can't engage in. On the other hand it's a very big deficiency, a great pain that is also felt in the group and also they kind of turn to us personally on the break and at the end of the lesson. What do we answer to such a thing?
M. Laitman: I would answer that just as we see that those soldiers have gave their soul that's how we need to accept them and to pray to the Creator that He will give them a good place in the next world on the wings of the Shechina as we say, but that's our message that that should be. What else could I say? I don't know.
Student: When we teach we say you'll see the next world in your life, it's the next degree, the next world. Let's explain what the public says the next world later.
M. Laitman: It doesn't go against the knowledge of the public, there's this life and there's that life.
Student: Yes, that's what we said, it's clear that with the audience that we're talking to we're talking in their language but as far as the Kabbalists who define the next world they're talking about attaining the next world, the next degrees here in this world that we're in. Okay, let's pray that we will manage to pass this along.
M. Laitman: We have to understand how there's the spiritual part in a person and there's the corporeal part in the person. Those who passed in the wars, obviously they have a part in the next world and we need to support that and explain that.
Student: (01:08:24) What's the difference between being rewarded for the next world and being rewarded the Torah? He asks this question, it doesn't seem like he answers it.
M. Laitman: To be rewarded with the Torah means to be rewarded with all the degrees that the Torah can escort him in his ascent and to be rewarded with the Torah, meaning that he gets all the Upper force that shines in him from above and clothes upon him in his desire to ascend to the Creator from above downwards.
Student: What’s to be rewarded with the next world?
M. Laitman: The next world is the world that’s next, that’s coming as Rabash explains, meaning that we need to see all those degrees that are before us from here until Gmar Tikkun and to try to get into them with all our heart and soul.
Student: He writes here of those of faith that say, if the Creator desires us and gives us. Who are those of faith and what are they saying here?
M. Laitman: I guess that someone said that the Creator wants us, that they believe in it that they get a good payment for that their whole life. I don’t know how to interpret it otherwise.