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Daily Lesson (Morning) November 9, 2024
Part 2: 4. Rabash. Article 5 (1985) “Go Forth From Your Land”.
Reader: We are reading selective excerpts on the weekly portion Lech Lecha. Also, you can send questions during the lesson and we are in item 4 in our document. This is from Rabash.
Article 5
Reading:(00:28) “Go forth from your land” means from your desire, which is the desire with which one is created, called “desire to receive delight and pleasure,” which is regarded as self-love. This is why he was told to go out of self-love.“From your homeland” means that father and offspring are cause and consequence, reason and result. This is so because the result comes from the drop in the father’s brain. By that, the result later emerges, as we explained in previous articles. In other words, the labor, when a person is going to work, is in order to receive reward. It turns out that the labor gives him reward. Were it not for the reward, he would not have made any effort. It therefore follows that a person keeps Torah and Mitzvot [commandments] in order to beget a son, which is called the reward.
M. Laitman: I don't know, read it again or was it enough? It's clear? Who is in favor of reading again? Okay, read What can I say?
Reading: (02:15) .“Go forth from your land” means from your desire, which is the desire with which one is created, called “desire to receive delight and pleasure,” which is regarded as self-love. This is why he was told to go out of self-love.“From your homeland” means that father and offspring are cause and consequence, reason and result. This is so because the result comes from the drop in the father’s brain. By that, the result later emerges, as we explained in previous articles. In other words, the labor, when a person is going to work, is in order to receive reward. It turns out that the labor gives him reward. Were it not for the reward, he would not have made any effort. It therefore follows that a person keeps Torah and Mitzvot [commandments] in order to beget a son, which is called the reward.
M. Laitman: Was it clear or read it again? (
M. Laitman: Okay?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (03:46) Bringing contentment to the Creator is also a reward, maybe the loftiest reward?
M. Laitman: So?
Student: How to even come out of that land of that outcome of thought?
M. Laitman: I don't know. Let's get closer. Let's get closer to this reward and then we will understand why the Creator intends it specifically.
Student: So it's like that reward doesn't include any overlap with his will to receive?
M. Laitman: But the will to receive is required and without it how will he receive?
Student: Right. So, bringing contentment to the Creator, that necessitates a reward.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Now He tells us, go forth from your land, from the will to receive to the will to bestow, which has no reward. But if I imagine myself bringing contentment to the Creator in future actions. I do imagine a reward. What do you do with this depiction of the future life?
M. Laitman: So you need to research whether indeed it is possible to work without a reward, and how is it done? And how do we organize our actions, our intentions, our advice.
Student: To research that?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Reader: 5. Rabash. Article 5 (1985) “Go Forth From Your Land”
Reading: (05:31) The Creator had told him, “And I will make you a great nation,” meaning that the main thing is the act and not the lights. That is, the essence of their work is love of others, and he has no consideration of himself.Therefore, although welcoming the Shechina certainly delights the body more than work on love of others, here, after the Creator had told him, “And I will make you a great nation,” it means that you will have the greatness primarily in actions. Therefore, here he had a place where he could show himself, meaning that he would be certain that he does not want to look at the profits, as it is a great profit to be rewarded with welcoming the Shechina. Still, he chose the act, meaning he did not intend for any reward for his work, but the main thing was the work.Here he found the place of scrutiny—for this is certainly a great thing to relinquish the reward and receive the reward of work. Normally, it is to the contrary: one labors in order to receive reward. But he did the opposite—giving the reward in order to receive labor. He learned this from what the Creator had told him, “I will make you a great nation,” as was said, that the greatness is primarily the action.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (07:47) He writes that he did the opposite, he gave the reward to receive labor. What does it mean to give the reward?
M. Laitman: He doesn't want to receive a reward. The reward that he could be given, but rather, instead of the reward, he's asking to be given a place to work.
Student: I can't seem to understand the work he labors he’s supposed to receive a reward for it?
M. Laitman: The reward that he wants to receive is the place to labor, so that he will have a place where to labor, to exert.
Student: And how do you come to such a demand specifically? Because he's already in the work. I'm trying to understand how from doing the work he finds more work.
M. Laitman: He changes his work. First he wanted a special state called reward. Now he wants through this new exertion, a new reward.
Student: Which is called to work?
M. Laitman: Yes. That's it? Everybody’s calm now?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (09:33) To continue the previous part it turns out the reward you need to demand is the place to work. And he's not saying, I want to feel the good that does good to justify the providence. He demands the work, to continue to work, to pray for it, right? That becomes the clean work?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: So how does it coincide? We learned before, Baal HaSulam explained, that you're off tune. You're faking if you don't justify the providence in the vessel's Good That Does Good complete?
M. Laitman: So that's a question. Can somebody give him an answer?
Student: Could be that in that he does this action, he comes closer to the quality. He cleanses himself more and more each time.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: It could be that a person who wants the work and not the reward, the Creator doesn't give the reward. And he needs above that to be rewarded, because the work is in above reason. So in above reason he wants to hold that. Even if the Creator shows him within that a reward he will hold that in which his goal is not reward, but adhesion?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: In order to justify someone you need to be an actor like he is.
M. Laitman: Right?
Student: In order to justify Him with the heart and not with the mind, so you need to do actions like Him. And as we know, the Creator operates without reward. He bestows. So even in one wanting to bestow without reward, so he acts in the same direction as the Creator and only then can he justify him.
M. Laitman: But for the Creator to bestow, that is the reward.
Student: Yes. So the person too, if his work is that and that he works and he doesn't ask for anything in return, and that he has a place for work, a place to bestow something, that is his reward. And in that, he is similar to the Creator.
M. Laitman: Does somebody understand him?
Student: In order to reach equivalence of form with the Creator I need to do actions, because my basis is the will to receive. And the Creator is a desire to bestow. And adhering to him, so as He is merciful, so you be merciful. So we want to reach equivalence?
M. Laitman: This may organize it correctly.
Student: Maybe it's like a child who yearns to be like an adult, he tries to do some action, he exerts, he plays, and then in the moment that they let him and he succeeds to do it, then that is his reward, he tries to be in that all the time. So, in our situation, we want to come closer to resemble the Creator, the quality of bestowal, maybe we play in that, but that's our goal. So, if we allowed into that, so that is our reward, to be in order to bestow, that's what we aimed ourselves at.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: I think that Baal HaSulam gave us an example in the introduction beforehand, in the comparison between the first Tanna and Rabbi Elazar, in the different degrees, they seem completely concealed, that you cannot interpret it simply. So, you need to accept that, and in some place it opens, because if you don't open it until the end, so then it seems as if, not seems, it's for certain. He gave us the example recently, how Rabash would put an X through something, then say it's incorrect, and then he would start anew.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (14:56) Could be that reward is in exertion, and also in the greatness of the Creator?
M. Laitman: Reward can be anywhere that a person sees that it's a reward, that it was something he was lacking.
Student: Could it also be that the reward of exertion is in the intellect, and that the greatness of the Creator is in the heart?
M. Laitman: That we didn't learn yet, and it's difficult to, that in both places, it's there.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (15:36) Since in the work of love of friends, there is great reward, there's great pleasure in that. So, precisely if we hold on to this work, so then the reward becomes, we become more sensitive to that, how our action would be correct in the work of love of friends?
M. Laitman: The more we are in love of friends, obviously the reward becomes more clear, more felt.
Student: And then it's also increasingly felt, to be careful with that reward?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: So again, it depends on how much we work in the love of friends?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (16:33) The labor in the prayer and in the reward, that's a prayer, right? Meaning I need to come from a prayer to, in order to bestow, to bestow and the reward is the prayer of bestowal?
M. Laitman: Well?
Student: I feel like I'm in the same place for a long time and I want to go from this land, from Israel, but my legs don't move. So why doesn't He take us? What's He waiting for?
M. Laitman: That you will ask correctly.
Student: Yes, that takes place each time, and with an emotion with such a deep need in my stomach, in my heart. How can I restrict my desire in order to raise my prayer with gratitude and begin from the right foot? I'm swallowed in the desire, even if it's the desire of the heart or not. How can I raise my head?
M. Laitman: To take your head out above?
Student: Yes, above my will to receive for myself?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: And start with the right foot, which would be with the intention to fulfill Him.
M. Laitman: Yes. That's a great problem.
Student: My legs won't move. All the public, all the friends, all the Divinity, all the Shechina, sorrow of the Shechina, sorrow of the public, there's no difference between them?
M. Laitman: Right.
Student: Everything depends on the problem in my head or my heart, I don't know even where the problem is.
M. Laitman: Everything depends on the mouth, between the head and the heart.
Question (Pearsh Tikva Center): (19:58) If I did Torah and Mitzvot in order to bring a son this reward, can the son correct me?
M. Laitman: Yes. If you give birth to a son, that's already making your correction.
Student: The question is also, does the reward also influence me in return?
M. Laitman: Yes. What she thinks about a reward, I'm saying that already belongs to her. It already fills her.
Question (PT 6): (20:48) In our state before Lishma, can we work without expecting gains?
M. Laitman: That's difficult, but it's possible.
Question (Nariah): (21:05) At the end of the excerpt we read, he writes that the main part of the Gadlut, greatness is the action. What is that greatness in the Ten?
M. Laitman: The main work is in the deeds, meaning to receive in order to bestow.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (21:26) Baal HaSulam said that I'm happy for the wicked that have been revealed. Meaning that he's happy instead of the work that has been given, and that's what it means to become a holy gentile.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (PT 6): (21:49) Does Lech Lecha, go forth mean that the Creator gave Abraham a new path?
M. Laitman: No. Nature is the same Nature.
Question (Almaty): (23:04) The place of exertion, I accept that as a reward. Did I do that, or is that an action of the group as a whole?
M. Laitman: Who heard this? Did somebody hear? Now I hear him.
Student: The place where we accept exertion as reward, is that something that I do individually, or is it something that the group as a whole does?
M. Laitman: It's personal. There's another question from Baltia?
Question (Baltia): (23:35) The main aspect of the work is the exertion. Here, many points in the heart have gathered from the whole Baltic states. Everyone put in his exertion in order to come here, to feel that importance of being righteous. But there is a medium state between righteous and wicked, like some kind of stop. What actions do we need to do when we find ourselves here, in this space where everyone has gathered together? That everyone's given a lot of investment, what efforts are demanded of us to do. We have come to this physical gathering, to this physical unity. But what else? What next?
M. Laitman: What did he say? Can somebody repeat that?
Student: In the Baltic region, they've gathered physically around all of Baltia, and they're asking what actions should we do here, now that we've gathered physically. Lots of people have put in a lot of investment, and they're asking what should they do in addition to the physical gathering.
M. Laitman: In order for our physical gathering to become a spiritual gathering, we just need to intend for that to be as one man with one heart, and that the result of our convention will be one vessel.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (25:31) What does it mean to ask correctly from the Creator, and how do we ask correctly from Him?
M. Laitman: To ask from the Creator correctly, and how to do it correctly, how to ask correctly, you turn to the Creator, and you ask. But we need first to feel the deficiency in the heart. What is the deficiency in our heart? Do I want to incorporate with all my friends, to be with them as one man with one heart? And from that heart, we can connect to the Creator. That's it.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (26:36) Can I ask another topic?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Yesterday we had a special training day for the whole world Kli on the topic of AI.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: I wanted to ask first about a few things. Firstly, that whole revolution of AI, this advanced technology that's entering humanity now, how do you see that? Where is it taking humanity, and where is it taking precisely us, in terms of the dissemination of the wisdom of Kabbalah?
M. Laitman: It's hard to say yet. I still can't say what exactly it will bring humanity, what it will bring us exactly, and when we'll see its results. There are very contradicting opinions about it and I don't know.
Student: So there are people who see it as this opportunity for a breakthrough, for refining our advancement forward and other people say that it's the opposite. They're saying, why are you even engaging in this? It's going to take humanity to a harmful direction, and you're inserting your Torah into it.
M. Laitman: I think there were such things, and there'll be more, and whether this is going to save humanity, I'm completely uncertain about that. Completely uncertain.
Student: It's as if humanity has really reached the peak. That they're coming to something very advanced and refined that they don't need anything on one hand. On the other hand, everyone is in this kind of rotted state, rotting state. Where is it bringing us? Essentially, to this essential point.
M. Laitman: Essential point of recognition of evil. Recognition of evil, that we need exactly to measure and decide to adapt ourselves in a correct way.
Student: On the other hand, in terms of the dissemination of the wisdom of Kabbalah, there are wonderful tools. You can do a video that would have taken you a year to make in a week. Don't you see some benefit in the opening to dissemination?
M. Laitman: Not so much. If there was a desire to hear, to study, to see, then I'd see it this way. As an opening for dissemination. For dissemination, but who to disseminate to?
Student: To awaken, at least?
M. Laitman: No.
Student: We're not going to wait for a desire to study to awaken.
M. Laitman: We have to work on it, but for now, we ourselves don't know how to advance.
Student: A question that arose. Let's say there's this ability today, like to make this avatar. To make a virtual profile of Rav. To make your own image of Rabash, Baal HaSulam, and to insert into you all of the sources, all the texts you've said. It's something that's computerized there. Some virtual that you can ask him and receive questions from it. It's similar to us being in interaction, but it's me and this image doing that. Do you think that, that's correct?
M. Laitman: For now, I can't depict that to myself. It's like a fairy tale. I wouldn't run towards that direction and be happy about that, but, you know.
Student: Why? Why wouldn't you run to use this advanced technology? For what did it become revealed?
M. Laitman: I still don't know that either, but it could be that it's being revealed in order to reach some kind of purpose on the way. But for now, we don't need, we don't see. That can be. And what people are talking about it, it could all be just people's interests.
Student: Okay, maybe other friends can ask.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (31:46) We can take, people are already doing it. We can take what you said for the last 30 years, all the terms, and for instance, ask the software, what would the Rav Laitman say? How would he define faith? And then you get a nice answer of what faith is from every time you mentioned that word in the last 30 years.
M. Laitman: Well.
Student: That's one option. Another option, if I ask you right now, Rav, what is faith? What's the difference between those two answers? What you will give me now compared to what we get from the Database?
M. Laitman: From that Database, that's all in all, generally what I said and stated in some case. And that is all. I still haven't seen from these things anything that is correct and good. Good for humanity.
Student: When a student asks you a question and you answer him.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: What place do you answer from?
M. Laitman: With what I have from mind and heart.
Student: So that supposedly sounds the same?
M. Laitman: I don't know. Again, we are still in the middle of the path, at the beginning of this new path. It could be that in another few years we will understand how to use it correctly. But in the meantime I don't know what to say.
Student: So I'll try one more time. What's the difference between a Database of all the knowledge to spirituality?
M. Laitman: For sure that's not the same. It's not the same, because spirituality is not an accumulation of all the knowledge that people came up with, and now they gathered it in some place, and afterward they want to use it.
Student: Could it be that knowledge disturbs spirituality, that it does the exact opposite?
M. Laitman: Yes, certainly such a thing exists, because in everything bad without good, good without bad. But you need to know how to differentiate between these two. There is knowledge and intellect. We'll advance and we'll see.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (35:12) I want to continue from the friend. Do you think that the software or an artificial intelligence, can it delay a correction?
M. Laitman: It depends how we use each thing.
Student: We just read how important exertion is, our inner effort to develop the connection between us, the connection of love. I feel that maybe this thing won't give us that exertion, that inner effort, but it will really just let you jump over all kinds of stages on our correction, that it'll be convenient for the ego. Why not? If you can really jump over all kinds of stages, push a button, get answers, there's no inner effort that we want to reach to really discover a common force called the Creator, because all our effort here is really our common work here between us. Maybe it'll delay us?
M. Laitman: I don't know. That's my answer. I don't know. As much as I understand, many more years will need to pass before we will know how to use it. That's all.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (36:58) Yesterday, there were programs in Amsterdam. Soccer fans were lynched. There was a big riot there and humiliations. What do we have to learn from this, that we see such revelations of hatred?
M. Laitman: That it's correct for today that we need to stop all kinds of places of contact with the nations of the world.
Student: So we have to stop what?
M. Laitman: Stop points of contact with the nations of the world.
Student: We need to isolate ourselves?
M. Laitman: If they would have not traveled to that soccer game, would something have happened?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (38:22) There's a state in the nation that the polarity is growing, and the violence level between the two sides is also rising, but it's already on a level, a physical level, difficult. We always say that everything that happens, happens because of us, that we didn't do enough, or we're not doing it correctly, all kinds of things. Now I'm looking at us, and I don't understand what we can add. We had all kinds of attempts of murder in our nation, and soon they'll succeed. The question is, what does it depend on? What can we do to bring a correction, and not the disaster that we're bringing on ourselves? What are we doing incorrectly? If we're doing incorrectly, I don't know.
M. Laitman: Everything.
Student: Everything what?
M. Laitman: Everything we do, we do incorrectly.
Student: So what should we do?
M. Laitman: I don't know. But as you ask, we need to leave this connection with the nations of the world.
Student: That's not something I'm worrying about. That's a result of the connection between us. That's what we learn now.
M. Laitman: No, you cannot make a comparison immediately between the study and the world. That's what I think.
Student: We need to focus on the interconnection in the nation?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Okay, so that's what I'm asking about. This attempts of murder is in the nation. And what are we doing wrong that is causing that we reach such a state in our nation?
M. Laitman: We murdered someone?
Student: Not yet.
M. Laitman: No. Okay. I don't know what to tell you. I think that we need to learn what's happening with us. What's happening with humanity. Where we need to be in relation to humanity. And that is all.
Student: Is there something that B'nei Baruch is not doing good, not doing correctly?
M. Laitman: I'm not speaking about B'nei Baruch at all. You asked me about the world.
Student: No, I wasn't asking about the world. I was asking about the nation of Israel, and specifically B'nei Baruch. We say that the state and the nation is because of our work in B'nei Baruch. That's at least what we used to say. Is that right? Maybe it's not right.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Can I ask about a specific case? A little while ago, there was a demonstration, well, a regular demonstration in Tel Aviv. A girl happened to come there with special needs. She didn't exactly understand where she was, and she made some kind of calling that goes against the opinion of the demonstrators. The result was a lynch.
M. Laitman: They murdered her?
Student: Almost. She went unconscious. The police got her out in the last moment. She left with broken bones in a very bad state. She's in the hospital. They didn't even start, the police didn't open a request. Only when she got out of the hospital and complained, we'll see what's up, the media hasn't spoken on it just until she went to the police. Only a certain channel, with a certain direction, is the only one who talked about it. Knesset and nothing changed. So I'm asking, if we're already in such a state, what do we do in order to correct this?
M. Laitman: You're asking me?
Student: Who can I ask?
M. Laitman: I have nothing to say. I have no solution.
Student: The solution should be spiritual, no?
M. Laitman: No, here we're speaking about corporeal action.
Student: Right, but where does it come from?
M. Laitman: I also don't know how much it even comes close to spiritual. You understand? Meaning, that is not a problem that we solve in a spiritual manner, that's for sure. Only in a corporeal way.
Student: How do we bring unity to our nation?
M. Laitman: Unity to the nation? We need to close them all together. So that they will talk, discuss, do whatever they want, and we shouldn't let them leave until they will reach the correct solution. Okay?
Student: Yes.
M. Laitman: Nice.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (45:26) What's the new relation that the nation of Israel should have towards the nations of the world?
M. Laitman: Why new?
Student: There's a feeling that the nation of Israel has a relation of dependency in the nations of the world. What they say, what they'll respond, what they'll do, that every act we do, you know, it's like a child.
M. Laitman: Yes, yes I understand.
Student: So something new has to be in that relation. That dependency, I'd say, to make it stop being dependent.
M. Laitman: It cannot be. Because the people of Israel, it's 0.02% of the world's population, something like that. So what do you want? Where have you seen that such a percentage will determine something for everyone?
Student: I don't know. On one hand, we learn, we hear, and somewhat we feel that we have a big influence internally.
M. Laitman: That's correct.
Student: So that's on one hand. On the other hand, the feeling is that they're determining on us, that they're deciding for us that there's a contradiction here. Meaning, how do you reach this point where I, the nation of Israel, feel the responsibility? It's like a maturity that he has a responsibility for the world. It will, for sure, also change its behavior towards the world?
M. Laitman: So we need to go out to the nation and engage in dissemination and teaching.
Student: What should we tell the nation? That it'll start changing their relation?
M. Laitman: That it should recognize its place in history, between the nations. Just like Baal HaSulam writes.
Student: On a corporeal level, the future. Like you said, it's something corporeal. Why are you running? What are you searching for over there? So should something change in us? Also, in our corporeal dependency to rebuild some kind of system?
M. Laitman: Everything.
Student: That will lead it, what thought,
M. Laitman: That we need to show the nations of the world. What does it mean to be one nation?
Student: One nation means that it's also a nation that knows how to be concerned of themselves?
M. Laitman: You can put it that way.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (49:26) You said about questions and answers that there's knowledge, and you always have to also say that there's a Creator?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: And we have to mention it. Because His greatness is concealed, and He is Good that does good, it's not in my mind to understand it. We always have to add this to all our scrutinies. Now, a gift I got from you once about questions and answers, that it's for everyone, because I'm sure it wasn't for me, the friend was the reader. And I asked you whether, if I feel that the Creator is conducting me or not, is the Creator conducting me? And your answer was, yes. This was a crossroads of scrutiny that were very essential for me.
M. Laitman: Okay.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (50:45) B'nei Baruch is an organization that sees itself as interested or aspiring to push to the unity in the nation in any possible way. As such an organization, when you look at the different polarity in Israel. So in the nation of Israel the way you see it today, are there parts that you can say about them that there's nothing you can do, they will never want to unite? Can that be?
M. Laitman: No.
Student: So, even the most extreme parts, we also have to try and?
M. Laitman: You see what they say about being at the end of correction.
Student: And before Gmar Tikkun, meaning on the way, what should be the relation towards the parts that they themselves declare that they will never go towards unity? They aren't even taking it into account.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: How to relate to them, how to bring them back in?
M. Laitman: I don't know. I don't know. I understand that we need to gather and to pray.
Reader: So, we are going to go to the studying between the friends. So, transition and we'll go to the next stage.