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Part 2 Rabash. Record 62. Reward and Punishment

Rabash. Record 62. Reward and Punishment

15. Juli 2024

The transcript has been transcribed and edited from English simultaneous interpretation, thus there may be potential semantic inaccuracies within it.

Daily Lesson (Afternoon) July 15, 2024

Part 2 Rabash. Record 62. Reward and Punishment

Reader: The next article, also Volume E, the Studies of Rabash, Article 62, Reward and Punishment. 

Reading Reward and Punishment: (00:17) 

In the work, we use reward and punishment in this world. In the next world, we do not use it although it exists. However, the general public uses reward and punishment primarily in the next world, and not reward and punishment in this world.

“Reward” means pleasure, and “punishment” means suffering. For the general public, who work for their own sake, they use reward and punishment of the next world because only in the next world will they feel the pleasure of observing Torah and Mitzvot [commandments], and the suffering for not observing Torah and Mitzvot. In this world, they do not feel pleasures or suffering from observing Torah and Mitzvot or vice-versa. Therefore, they must use only with regard to the next world.

But those who work in the individual manner feel a punishment if they have no faith in the Creator, meaning they suffer because they have no faith. Also, they derive pleasure, meaning reward, from being able to believe that the Creator leads the world in a manner of good and doing good, which is called “reward and punishment in this world.”

In the work, we use reward and punishment in this world. In the next world, we do not use it, although it exists. However, the general public uses reward and punishment primarily in the next world, and not reward and punishment in this world.

M. Laitman: Again.

Re-Reading Reward and Punishment: (02:23)

Question (PT 13): (04:46) Does the measure of suffering depend on lack of faith? 

M. Laitman: To the extent of the lack of faith, as much as a person is incorporated in this or is distant from this. 

Student: For example, in the article, it says that we don't feel suffering because we don't have enough faith, and there are those that do feel. How can we increase the size of this feeling so this is more obvious, there's more necessity for faith? 

M. Laitman: Only by studying together, talking together. When a person feels through the friends his connection, the distance between him and the Creator. 

Question (Kyiv): (06:06) What is the meaning of future world and this world in this article? 

M. Laitman: The next world, meaning the world that is coming, meaning it's not now, but it will be soon. And this world, that which I feel right now. 

Student: Here it says that the masses can only receive pleasure in the next world, and those that work individually can receive reward even in this world. What does it mean to work individually? 

M. Laitman: Individually means that when you study the wisdom of Kabbalah, of course in the group, not alone, you try to turn to the Creator. With the help of the group, you raise yourself and turn to Him. 

Student: What does it mean that I receive reward in this world? 

M. Laitman: The revelation of the Creator.

Student: For me, a revelation of the Creator will be in a united Ten when I see that the friends are united, everyone in one yearning. 

M. Laitman: I don’t know, if for you it’s reward, then yes.

Student: You said with regards to the friends that I look at my distance or how close I am to the Creator. And those deficiencies I see in the Ten, I still see it through my Kelim, I don't perceive it the way it really is. And if I ask for these corrections, then I change. So, you teach us that when my vessels are corrected, I will see the friends as corrected.

M. Laitman: True. 

Student: When I try to think about this, it's kind of clear, but it's like an illusion in my perception, and when it's corrected, it will be an illusion. Anyway, it's my vessels, I can't exit them.

M. Laitman: Meaning, all the negative you feel in the world, in people, in the group, in you, in no matter what, it's all you, it's yours. It is all your qualities that are still bad.

Student: And from outside, my Kelim are corrected. I understand that through these corrections, the light goes through this, and something needs to change in reality. I need to see that something is changing. 

M. Laitman: Not necessarily, not immediately and not in accordance to the fact that you want, and not in accordance to that which you want to be corrected. Otherwise, you'll be working for the reward. 

Student: There is such a thing here that we study, when we pray for others, he who prays for the society receives correction first. There is a trick here, I get stuck here, I want correction to be outside and not for me to receive it.

M. Laitman: Then pray precisely for that. Write down the text accordingly and say it.

Question (Women Turkiye 5): (10:44) I receive all kinds of pleasures through the five senses that my friends hear and my ears hear. I love this variety of things I get through my sensory organs. And this sixth sense, does it also have this kind of variety and give this kind of abundance? 

M. Laitman: The sixth sense gives us much more than all of our current senses. Let's work on the sixth sense, yes, and then we will be able to understand the extent in which it's special.

Question (Women MAK 51): (11:51) If there is suffering but no faith, is this spiritual? What kind of tool lets us feel it?

M. Laitman: Only the connection between you. 

Student: And what does it mean to work individually and not collectively? 

M. Laitman: Read a few times and you'll see. 

Student: Our task is to come to this state, to be happy here and now. Is this what the Creator wants from us? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Question (Turkiye 2): (12:54) If everything comes from the Creator, then what is the reward and punishment? 

M. Laitman: Through the Creator we receive either reward or punishment, yes, and this all comes through the Creator. 

Student: Does everything come from the Creator?

M. Laitman: Everything.

Question (Women Turkiye 8): (13:55) Can we receive reward and punishment for an action or we can only see it afterwards? 

M. Laitman: Yes, when we can get a punishment after the action, at some point, who knows when, we also receive an explanation of why we received the punishment.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (14:31) Can we expect punishment for an action in advance and avoid it? 

M. Laitman: Then why do it in that case? Why would we want to continue? But rather, either do, or if to do, do it and immediately return to it, and like this advance.

Student: Before the action, can I know that if I perform an action, I will get a punishment? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Question (MAK 24): (15:15) Losing connection with the Creator, is this a punishment, or how do we use this for advancement? 

M. Laitman: That is the greatest punishment.

Student: Is it correct to use it as a push towards correction, that’s how we advance? 

M. Laitman: No, it's not correct and it's not good. 

Student: So, what do we do? 

M. Laitman: I didn't understand.

Question (Women MAK 26): (16:03) When there is a lack of feeling of the Creator, do we suffer or we should just say that things will happen? 

M. Laitman: As long as we advance. I can't answer it precisely. As long as we constantly, constantly try to push yourself and the group forward. 

Student: We'll be a step forward. 

M. Laitman: Be closer to the Creator. Understand in greater depth the source of separation between you and the Creator, and in such a way it's possible to quickly recognize your state and correct it. With you we conclude today's lesson. 

Announcements: (17:25)

Song: (17:51)