Afternoon Lesson October 17, 2023, Transcription

Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio.

Part 1:

Lesson on the topic of “Lishma Is an Awakening from Above, and Why Do We Need an Awakening from Below?

1. Rav’s Introduction: Lishma is an awakening from above, meaning it's a force and desire that comes from above, and why do we need to give the awakening from below first, meaning our desire from below aims to the Creator? If Lishma comes from above such force elevates us above our desire to receive towards our desire to bestow. Why do we need and also where do we get this awakening from below, this desire from below? We need to rise from us to the Creator so that we will want Him, ask Him, and make Him so He will give us this desire for the sake of bestowal. Basically, it's not clear, even the name Lishma is awakening from below so the desire to bestow comes from above and why do we need to ask, to demand from below? Why do we need to ask to have this desire? How can it be possible if it's awakening from Above? If all of this is the upper awakening then where shall we get the awakening from below, from the force to demand our own awakening from our side? So let's read and let's see.

Reading Article: (02:27) Baal HaSulam. Shamati 5. Lishma Is an Awakening from Above, and Why Do We Need an Awakening from Below?

2. R. (03:36) Meaning, what we have to the fact that we have to reach Lishma, meaning the quality of the Creator, basically becomes like him partially or fully. This can all lead us to the adhesion with the Creator and it can only come to us from Above it's not in the man's power to attain it.

Reading continued: (04:12) “Thus, we must understand why a man must seek....”

3. R. (05:41) Up until this point it's clear? All right, good.

Reading continued: (05:46) “It follows that the need for man's work in order.…”

4. R. (06:18) What we have read so far is clear. We are in the desire to receive for the sake of receiving, it's called Lo Lishma, not for the sake of the Creator. What we need to accomplish is we need to reach the desire to bestow upon the Creator, which is called Lishma for the sake of the Creator. If we see that we don't want, that we don't need, then we need to ask the Creator for help so that He will help us so that our desire turns around and instead of taking care of ourselves, a person will start to care about the Creator and will be able to perform actions for the sake of bestowal to bestow upon the Creator. The main thing for a person is to obtain his own Hisaron, a deficiency, the deficiency to bestow upon the Creator, and then from this deficiency a person can truly reach bestowal towards the Creator, and this is the second part of the equation of the issue that is we are facing, so, first of all, he wants to be bestowing towards the Creator and the second part, what to bestow upon Him to give Him, etc. All of this a person receives from the Creator Himself.

5. S. (08:38) What is that deficiency to bestow on the Creator?

R. The way the Creator bestows upon you, you will have the desire to bestow upon the Creator.

S. But this is the love I feel towards Him?

R. Yes, love, that good feeling, yes.

6. S. (09:07) My question is how can we start our work awakening from below if we don't feel a lack for the Creator, should I pray even in a mechanical way?

R. Yes, yes, you have to even mechanically you have to seek or how to reach the state where you can be striving to reach the Creator.

Reading continued: (09:47) “However the prayer must be a complete prayer....”

7. R. (10:12) This means that a person needs to know that to replace his nature from receiving to the nature that bestows to the Creator, only the Creator Himself can perform this action upon the man, man himself cannot perform this change himself.

Reading continued: (10:35) “And how does one know that no one will help him….”

8. R. (11:00) Yes, exactly like this, it didn't help him. He put all his efforts, he exerted all the efforts and he wanted to bestow upon the Creator, he wanted to reach the Creator and nothing helped him. Then, it is called he's reached a true point when he has a true deficiency to bestow upon the Creator.

Reading continued. (11:31) “Thus one must do every possible thing.…”

9. R. (11:55) Then the Creator hears his prayer. So, here he gives us a preliminary state if a person exerts all the effort in order to reach a quality for the sake of the heavens for the sake of bestowing upon the Creator, then he can raise the prayer from the bottom of his heart. Basically, only based on the condition that he's entered himself and he's willing to do anything to reach the Creator then it is called that he has reached the state where he sees that it's impossible, and only in that state, like this when he sees that it's impossible, then the Creator hears his prayer.

Reading continued: (13:05) “However one must know when exerting to attain….”

10. R. (13:40) Meaning, only if he’s based on the condition that he exerted the complete effort and did everything possible and then, and only then, he sees with all of his body, all of his thoughts, and all of his qualities, he's targeted towards the Creator, no, he sees that not everything and then he sees, but still he has some surplus of his own nature that he's not able to cover with his own efforts and to, yes, bestow and, yes, reach the state of bestowal.

Reading continued: (14:32) “From this one can come to clear awareness that he ....”

11. R. (14:56) Meaning, only based on the condition that he gave everything, did everything that’s in his hands, and then he starts to see that there was something more, something that he's not able to give any effort toward prayer, nothing.

Reading continued. (15:18) “As he sees that he cannot persuade his body....”

12. R. (15:52) Meaning that after the fact that he sees that he's not able to give anything towards the Creator he empties himself then he sees that he doesn't have any strength and he doesn't have any depth in his heart from where he could raise himself towards the Creator more to bestowing some way, meaning completely and fully he's out of strength, no power, no foundation, and no strength, what shall he do?

13. S. (16:55) What are tricks? Daily I bang my head against the table trying to understand what I can do against my nature and how can I bring my friends to the connection. Give me some advice from your experience. What are the tricks that we need to find anew each time?

R. I cannot tell you a single word because you have to look for it, you have to demand, you have to pray, and then you reveal, you will trust the Creator in your own way, and this will get you out from exile toward the revelation.

S. Rav, it drives me nuts every day and anew because I feel like, no matter what I do it's not enough, I need to do more and more and pray to the Creator. The question is, how long will it last until I reach the state where that's it?

R. Yes, that's it.

14. S. (18:17) What kind of deficiency does such a person need to awaken in order for the vessels of reception to transition into vessels of bestowal?

R. I don't know. Let's continue reading what he recommends, and then with the questions that you have, your questions will become more relevant.

Reading continued: (19:01) “We must know that by attaining Lishma....”

15. S. (26:07) If the Creator is the one that finishes the work, what effort should I make? Should I do all the efforts through the ten?

R. Usually, yes. Usually through the ten.

16. S. (26:40) We are told that we have to take on full responsibility for all the things that are happening in the world, and this gives us an enormous deficiency to turn to the Creator, but on the other hand, we learned that we have only to turn to the Creator out of love for Him, so how can we reconcile these two big deficiencies?

R. Again.

S. On the one hand, we know that everything that happens in the world happens because of us and that's why we turn to the Creator, and we have a great deficiency turned to Him. On the other hand, we turn to Him out of love for Him, so how to settle these two deficiencies?

R. You need to see that they're one thing, you need to see or depict that they're one thing and try to think how to connect the two together.

17. S. (28:07) How do we pray from the bottom of the heart if we don't have a complete lack? What is a complete lack?

R. A complete deficiency is when we want to reach exactly Lishma, and this is what we're asking from the Creator for help.

18. S. (26:52) How's it possible to give all the exertion when the ego is constantly guarding what quantity and quality you invest in?

R. Once more.

S. How is it possible to give all the exertion when the ego is constantly guarding and calculating how much in and what quality your effort is?

R. But we're given these obstacles and if we want to overcome them, we have to exert the same level of effort and pressure for the Creator to help us, and so we reach the plea, the prayer. The Creator won't be able to resist, and He leads us to Lishma.

S. So it turns out that the exertion and the resistance go up a level each time?

R. Yes.

19. S. (30:22) I wanted to ask that in the excerpts where it talks about the porter and the package in the allegory the Creator turns to him and says that's not my package that you worked hard for. I got confused there, very much. If There Is None Else Besides Him, then what does it mean for someone else that you labored for someone else? That means the Creator ranges the packages and everything.

R. Of course Creator performs it, but you're making it a little more complex. Maybe what you're saying is you want to send your luggage to a different hotel, maybe you address the wrong carrier, not the one that works for the Creator, and more and more you organize all those things. From the side of the Creator, everything is going according to a very straight line from the very beginning until the end.

S. How can I not get confused and not overcomplicate things and just walk in a straight line with the Creator?

R. This is how Rabash writes exactly. That you don't forget, you are part of a special path and on this path, you have to meet a carrier that will take your suitcase from the train to the hotel where you are designated to spend the night, and that's it. So basically, all we need is to continue going in the same direction and not to forget about the goal, where am I going, from where am I leading, where am I going, what have I reached, what hotel I have to enter, and what is my suitcase that the courier has to carry.

20. S. (33:34) Are we working for the benefit of the Creator if, in the work in the ten we don't feel a big exertion?

R. Of course it doesn't depend on what kind of effort you'd perform, big or small, the main thing is for them to be directed correctly towards the goal itself.

21. S. (34:22) Yesterday we talked in the ten that there's a feeling that the more we make efforts the more there are disturbances, and it really lowers the morale. What can we do about this?

R. Only a bigger connection between us.

22. S. (34:55) Do we need to aspire to do everything we can to give all of our strength? How can we reach that state where each one holds the friends in the ten, each one is uplifting and giving? If we need to do everything we can, only then there will be a prayer and a true request for the Creator to this bottom. How can we reach it if we are constantly in the connection between us, we elevate and give relation to each other give new strength, but there's an unstoppable resource of strength between us.

R. Continue, carry on.

S. Can I be more precise? The joy in the connection of the friends is that not opposing the despair?

R. No, no, no, no.

23. S. (36:18) How to understand that at each and every given moment of my life, I am really taking the work of the Creator and is this a sign this is the attitude of the friends?

R. Of course everything is connected to the so-called suitcase that I have to carry to the designated place.

24. S. (36:53) I wanted to ask what we need to enjoy from this work, in the work for the Creator in order to really take upon ourselves this work as it's described in this article?

R. We need to extract pleasure from the fact that we are serving the Creator by performing our job.

25. S. (37:31) Is it correct to be happy with each and every piece of baggage that we care for? It doesn't matter what it weighs and where we're taking it.

R. Of course because it's your suitcase.

26. S. (38:04) We read that from here it comes to the understanding that he has no other counsel but to pour out his heart to the Creator that He will help him, and the body will be, will agree to enslave himself. What does it mean that the body agrees to enslave itself?

R. Agree to work with no reward only because in his imagination, the Creator is great and this will serve as a kind of, like payment, the fact that he does it for the sake of the Creator.

27. S. (39:02) Nevertheless, there is some sort of calculation here of serving the greater One.

R. Yes, of course, and how did you think that you would be able to do it without any calculation?

S. But for that, we're trying to reach?

R. No, it's impossible because the desire, our desire to receive it basically switches us towards a different frequency, towards a different, let's say, a realization instead of performing it for my own sake, I'm performing it for the sake of the Creator, but I do the calculation.

28. S. (39:56) It's written that “You did not call Me, Jacob,” so how to truly serve the Creator in our spiritual work so that we won't receive the same answer from the Creator, that is “You did not call Me, Jacob”?

R. It means that we have to reach a state where we are ready to work for the sake of the bestowal without receiving any reimbursement, but only because it is targeted towards the Creator, aimed at the Creator.

29. S. (41:08) In the excerpt it says that the work of the Creator needs to give us pleasure, we need to enjoy the work. What point are we making an effort, what is the effort that we need to make to overcome?

R. Effort is against our own ego, to distract us each time towards some, some of its needs.

30. S. (42:00) What exactly is the meaning of to do for the sake of the Creator? Is it to do in order to increase His presence, and His name in the world without receiving any reward? Okay but inside the body, my body, okay, so what does it mean to really aim it towards the Creator?

R. To be specifically aimed towards the Creator means that I want to do what is good for Him, that's it.

S. What does it mean to be, to do good to the Creator?

R. Everything that He wants I'm willing to perform.

S. And he wants us to connect?

R. He wants us to connect, to unite.

31. S. (42:59) How can we find this point in which I internally invest everything for the Creator, or do I have some calculations without any calculations to receive?

R. Well, I don't know. Try to calculate it in such a way that you're pleased, that would be egoistic to the least extent.

32. S. (43:44) The answer from the Creator towards our deficiency is that a fulfillment?

R. Not necessarily.

S. Is it the quality of Lishma or Lo Lishma?

R. It can be an explanation of how exactly I should act in order to fulfill myself.

33. S. (44:16) If I put in a lot of effort and exertion and putting and doing a lot of things with hands and legs, and in essence, I don't receive a lot of reward on the contrary from the ten and in general, I feel that something is, I don't know, doesn't mean that I'm still in my ego or that my request is wrong?

R. Yes, you are still inside of your ego.

S. How to request, how to come out of it, just ask the Creator and to say that you do everything, and I do nothing?

R. No, prayer.

34. S. (45:05) I wanted to ask about this thing with the tiredness because the Creator demands to do something, to work because there is a pleasure for the opportunity to advance, but I feel that it is an effort internal the body is exhausted and wants to rest from it. How do I understand this tiredness? Does it mean that the exertion was wrong?

R. I have to carry on. I have to go on and try as much as possible to connect with the friends and then it will be way easier.

35. S. (45:52) When a person needs to carry baggage that is not his and it is truly heavy for him because it doesn't have any pleasure in the will to receive, but when I lift the baggage of my children or myself then I even have pleasure from that, so when we turn together to the Creator and ask Him in order to bestow as much contentment to Him as possible in a qualitative way and ask Him to connect us to an even greater Kli, is that a request the Creator cannot say no to?

R. Yes.

36. S. (46:33) In continuation to what a friend asked, how to confuse between the exhaustiveness and carrying baggage that is not yours and the emptiness that you feel in the work. How not to confuse between the tiredness of carrying baggage that is not mine and the tiredness from working for the Creator and feeling emptiness?

R. The thing is when you're carrying somebody else's suitcase or an empty suitcase, you have no idea what you're doing, but when you've been told that it's somebody else's suitcase, well then you will feel that it's heavy.

S. We were very impressed by what you said that we need to serve the Creator and from that receive the joy. What does it mean to serve the Creator and how to do it in a way that is complete?

R. How? Well, how to serve the Creator, do everything that brings pleasure to Him.

S. The baggage, my baggage is the ten?

R. No, the baggage is your personal issues, personal stuff that you have to correct and fulfill to come with them toward the end of creation.

37. S. (48:16) My daughter told me that the problem with the prayers is that you do not believe that your prayer will be heard. When a child asks, they know for sure that his desire will be fulfilled, and if she is correct in what she says, then what are we lacking in order to believe that the Creator will hear this prayer?

R. Connect between yourselves and connect between yourself in a group and make a request to the Creator.

38. S. (49:23) How to transition from the feeling of my uniqueness to the greatness and completeness of the Creator? After all the Creator created me from His qualities, how do I overcome this?

R. He created you in opposition to Himself and you have to make of yourself likeness to the Creator.

S. But this uniqueness that I sort to say, consider myself as the best, that is the most unique, this hardness is what separates me from the friend and this prayer, it's a prayer that I cannot take out of myself?

R. Okay, you need to go on, you need to continue and carry on.

39. S. (50:38) You said that only on the condition that he gives himself wholeheartedly as he is able to bestow to the Creator then he sees that not all of his body, thoughts, and desires are aimed at the Creator. Do we need each one in the ten to check this and then come to a common prayer after that, after this check?

R. That's preferable, it's not so urgent right now maybe but it's preferable. Eventually, we'll have to accomplish this.

40. S. (51:37) How can I constantly be certain that my action now is clean towards the Creator?

R. Only from the fact that you connect with friends.

41. S. (52:03) When we enter and search within our heart, what are we to find? Will we find the Creator, we will find joy or pain, light, or darkness? What are we looking for?

R. When we're searching for the qualities of our heart, we're looking for the qualities that will allow us to connect with the friends as one man in one heart.

42. S. (52:48) If a demand is felt like something that is hard to do, is it possible to say that it's not a demand from the Creator?

R. Maybe, yes. There's sometimes, there's a condition where we can say this.

43. S. (53:18) How to throw away the baggage of someone else if I love it, it's comfortable, it's good?

R. A bag is just someone else is very heavy, so you will drop it with great pleasure as soon as you are told it's not yours.

S. You could say it comes from the Creator?

R. You will have to feel it.

S. A million people carry foreign baggage, who needs to hear it?

R. No, no they're not targeted towards carrying their own suitcase in order to give the response to the Creator through it in order to unite, they're not tuned in such a manner.

44. S. (54:22) If I understood correctly, then as a result of the efforts in the work, a person reveals that not all his organs in himself want to bestow to the Creator, and out of this point then even his prayer is not very strong because he's not completely into bestowing towards the Creator. So, how from this point, that not all the organs agree with it, can we come to a complete pray that only the Creator hears.

R. Only through determination.

45. S. (55:11) So it turns out that at the beginning the Creator gives us some sort of a payment, does a form of sweetening, the method of the wisdom of Kabbalah and we came and took a baggage in this feeling went away and a lot of friends who simply just continue as a donkey to the burden and there's nothing else to study, but what is the importance of this check that am I carrying the correct suitcase? They said that I needed to, and we went all the way as much as possible.

R. The thing is we have to reach absolute bestowal, absolute bestowal.

46. S. (56:08) If I'm not certain that I'm carrying my baggage, who to ask and answer from? Is it from the ten that it will tell me which is the correct baggage?

R. Coming closer to your ten will give you an answer.

47. S. (56:36) How to know if I carry someone else's baggage if I perceive this baggage that I need to bring to the Creator and correct it, so this is not everybody's, this is mine, it's not anybody else's, so how to know what's mine and what's not?

R. No. You are carrying the suitcase and questions pop up in your head, is it yours? If it's a suitcase that has heaviness that you don't feel completely at all, then it's yours. And if you feel any heaviness in the suitcase then, it's not yours.

48. S. (57:56) How to limit the deficiency to give pleasure to the Creator to play with the states besides the example that you gave us besides the great Kabbalists we have nothing else?

R. I don't understand it completely to raise the deficiency only with the help of the friends in the ten.

S. Do we need to play that we are giving pleasure to the Creator?

R. Play, yes, act as if you are bringing contentment to the Creator.

49. S. (58:46) Tell us please, can a person straight away choose the correct baggage?

R. We’ll still have questions, so he needs to know how to check both suitcases.

S. We nevertheless don't understand what is the baggage, is it an intention or something else? How to relate to it?

R. It's the intention, it's the action of bestow, the action of bestowal towards the Creator, if they're easy that means that it's the suitcase is right, it is correct, that the action is correct. If it's hard and it's heavy, it means that you're confused somewhere.

S. Is it possible that initially everything here goes easy, and succeeds easily, and then a person takes upon himself more, more burden, and then it takes the wrong baggage? Is that what happens?

R. This means that the connection between the friends in the group is not right, understand? Here you need to look at how easy it is to carry the suitcase.

50. S. (01:00:18) So the connection gives this lightness of the baggage?

R. Yes, of course. Alright, stay healthy my beloved, and see you tomorrow.

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