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Daily Lesson (Morning), October 13, 2024.
Part 2: Lesson on the topic of "Mingling/Inclusion"
Reader: We're going to read selected excerpts on the topic of Hitkalelut, incorporation. We’re reading selected excerpts from the sources. We'll begin in excerpt number five.
Excerpt number five by Baal HaSulam from Peace in the World.
Reading: (00:21) Excerpt Number 5. Baal HaSulam, "Peace in the World" - Twice
Each and every individual in society is like a wheel that is linked to several other wheels placed in a machine. This single wheel has no freedom of movement in and of itself but continues with the motion of the rest of the wheels in a certain direction to qualify the machine to perform its general function.
And if there is some malfunction in the wheel, the malfunction is not evaluated relating to the wheel itself, but according to its service and role with respect to the whole machine.
M. Laitman: Questions?
Reader: (01:43) Can this machine even work if all the wheels are broken?
M. Laitman: Where do you see that all the wheels are broken?
Student: He says every individual is like a wheel that's connected to several other wheels, etc.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: It's enough that one wheel doesn't work, the whole machine gets stuck, it's broken. What if there is more than one wheel that doesn't work right? How can you even see that the work is working properly?
M. Laitman: Explain to me, I don't understand.
Reader: Maybe we should read again?
Reading: (02:43) Excerpt Number 5. Baal HaSulam, "Peace in the World"
M. Laitman: Yes, so what is the question?
Student: The question is if the machine works well when all the wheels work, properly?
M. Laitman: Yes, from here it is clear.
Student: What do we have an example of a machine that's working properly, if we were born broken.
M. Laitman: In our world, we don't see this, not in the entire universe, and not even in parts of it. In no place, in no degree, do you see that part of the general machine that's working correctly. You will always have in your study that either this or that or another part is corrupted.
Student: But we do say that all of creation moves toward correction.
M. Laitman: So, what?
Student: So, I guess there is something right in the direction?
M. Laitman: There could be such a trend for that because to begin with everything was created in a bad way and has been moving towards correction. And, more than likely, everything needs to end in good, in the correction of the Kli. So, if so, what's the question?
Student: If one will correct itself, a little bit, in some way.
M. Laitman: Corrected itself?
Student: Well, it went through a process and is a little more corrected now.
M. Laitman: Well, let's say?
Student: Still, the machine in general is broken, so what does it add to the machine by that?
M. Laitman: Nothing, nothing, from here, we can only learn that our addition is just the recognition of evil.
Student: Let's take it to the life of the Ten. We see that there are times, periods, states when the machine works like a smooth machine.
M. Laitman: That’s because it just seems to us that way.
Student: And there are states when what is revealed is revealed.
M. Laitman: Yes?
Student: So, what does it mean that it works like a proper machine, a properly working machine? How can you take it as an idea or as a state that you aspire for?
M. Laitman: He writes, there, that it is that all the wheels are connected in one direction, towards one goal. And there’s no, let’s say, no quarrel, no dispute between them but, rather, everything is in complete understanding – from one to all.
Student: When we say that now we're in an attack on connection, how does it activate the machine? How does each one make sure that his will does not get the machine stuck?
M. Laitman: None of us knows the whole of the machine and no one can see his future because the machine is endless. And he influences it also, eternally; and then it turns out that a person can only be certain that he is performing correct operations with someone who is in an open feeling, that's it.
Student: So, in relation to the friends?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (08:14) To continue the friend, he writes, “if some malfunction happens in the wheel, the wheel is not evaluated with respect to the wheel itself, but it is evaluated according to its service and role with respect to the whole machine”. So, a person doesn't know the whole system, the machine, the whole machine. He doesn't know himself within this system what he is. He doesn't or does he know?
M. Laitman: Well, well, so?
Student: In order for a wheel to know its malfunction in the machine, does it have to know its function in the whole machine?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: How does he know his own function in the machine?
M. Laitman: In moving himself in the correct way.
Student: How does he know, he says, it might be a corruption that's hurting the whole machine. How do I know if I'm corrupting or not corrupting, if it's not clear to me what my role in the machine is?
M. Laitman: That is, that each one in the machine must know his general role.
Student: Yes?
M. Laitman: And if he sees that the general role is not okay, then he needs to know how he gives forth his part; that such a deviation that will be a corrective deviation for the whole machine, and eventually it functions correctly.
Student: Yes?
M. Laitman: Yes, so what do we do?
Student: In order to realize myself, correctly, my own screw in the machine, I have to know my duty, my service. What exactly is expected of me, my own specific part, otherwise, how do I know if I'm spoiling or correcting?
M. Laitman: Well, that we need to continue.
Student: Continue what, how do I know my part?
M. Laitman: But you see the machine before you, meaning you must examine the whole machine and see what's in it, which is what is out of the ordinary or what should be there. And you need to add your correction.
Student: But I cannot, I don't see the whole machine, and my own part, and the wheel in it, I also don't see. In other words, the machine is hidden, the wheels are hidden, and they expect me not to spoil it, not to break it.
M. Laitman: Yes?
Student: There's a problem, here, or maybe I should just work in general.
M. Laitman: No, you don't have enough knowledge to do, in general.
Student: That's the question so at what point is a person regarded as a wheel on a machine?
M. Laitman: A person is considered a wheel in the machine in a time where he knows in his decisions what he is driving. And from the machine he receives a response, the correct response to his actions.
Student: At what stage does the wheel know, exactly, what is its role?
M. Laitman: When he is in the correct mutual relationship with the machine, openly.
Student: Is it clear to a person, is it clarified to a person what his role in the system is?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: When is he shown exactly what his role is and what is expected of him, when?
M. Laitman: Yes?
Student: When is a person shown his path, his role?
M. Laitman: When it's needed.
Student: And until then?
M. Laitman: Until then, there's nothing to ask of a person, the others control him.
Student: Okay, what is the machine, the whole of the machine, what is it?
M. Laitman: The soul.
Student: And the wheel?
M. Laitman: The individual's soul.
Student: And where does the Ten fit in the machine?
M. Laitman: We'll say the individual connection between the parts of the soul.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (13:30) The main reason I'm even sitting here is because I want to attend to the next generation that will come so they'll have a ready-made method so they don't have to go through what we're having to go through. And you feel stagnation here, most of the people are landlords, they have their own solid views – there are not many innovations. How, in such a state, can you find some innovation to break through to the next generation, mainly, in dissemination because that's the thing that needs to go on to go forward?
M. Laitman: First of all, don't make a decision on the whole generation, that's much, don't make it that way, that's one thing. Secondly, the fact that you're already asking such questions is very respectable.
Student: I don't want to decide for the generation, I want to disseminate to the generation, I'm not the Creator.
M. Laitman: Okay, okay, what I would recommend is – most correctly, it would be to say, let's continue. And these questions will gradually receive their place, both for the question and also their place for the answer.
Student: I'll tell you why: I incorporate with a lot of people outside of here and I feel it, we need to talk. But your mouth is still shut. There's still no way to speak. It's only an opportunity to bestow.
M. Laitman: Well, what to do? That's how it is in our times, still.
Student: We'll succeed.
M. Laitman: We'll succeed for sure!
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (16:04) We spoke about the machine. Every detail, every individual in society should feel, should he feel the roles of all the others in the society?
M. Laitman: No, not completely.
Student: How does he know how to work correctly, the machine tells him?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: The machine is hidden from him, because he doesn't know all the details in the machine. He doesn't know it.
M. Laitman: Correct.
Student: How does he operate correctly toward the rest of the individuals in society, simply, according to what he's told to do without understanding what it means? How can he bestow correctly?
M. Laitman: There are parts in the machine that he has to activate from his experience, feeling, in the machine; and there's also his obligation to operate the machine on the degree of faith. Habit, and feeling a commitment towards all the parts of the machine because that's how it is, that's the will of the upper. There are more matters, here.
Student: This work in the machine, if I understand correctly, comes after the incorporation and feeling of the other.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: So, feeling of all the friends that a person should come to, the feeling of incorporation in the Ten. It doesn't describe the person, correctly, the role of each of the friends in the common act that they do. Doesn't he feel it?
M. Laitman: Altogether, the machine brings a person the knowledge of in what way he needs to be connected to everyone in order to feel the machine in wholeness.
Student: Then it's not clear, what is the stage of incorporation for?
M. Laitman: Incorporation is the main thing.
Student: If I need only to incorporate in the machine, as a one-way thing with the machine in general. Can this only be achieved if I incorporate with each of the individuals in the machine?
M. Laitman: It could be or it could be that through them you're shortening the path.
Student: Now it's written here, he's not continuing with the rest of the wheels in a certain direction for the machine to work in a general function. What does it mean that the machine is working in a certain direction? What is the general role of this machine that everyone agrees on?
M. Laitman: To reach the correct decision for the correct correction; to the right connection between all its parts. And for a person to feel himself being in the center of the decision and the result. And by that, will feel himself in the center of the decision and the result of the consequence of that decision.
Student: In this act when we're actually there, is it possible that the individual sees the corruption in a different, in another wheel? He sees that there something needs to be moved.
M. Laitman: According to my understanding, there isn't.
Student: In other words, the machine, purportedly, is perfect and it's got demands toward him, and he needs to do them.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Reader: (20:56) I will ask it a little differently, I hope. There are several variables here, unknowns. There's a machine, we don't see it, the wheel itself and the rest of the wheels—it’s all basically hidden. And Rav always says that, like in an equation in mathematics, you need to take all the variables but deal with only one. So, out of all these things that we have to deal with, what is that variable, that x step that we asked about the rest of them, we keep fixed?
M. Laitman: So how will we take out that one?
Student: I don't know, we have to focus on something, there are many, many unknowns, here.
M. Laitman: But in the formula you need to have several details, and only one of them is the x.
Student: Yes, so we say the whole machine, we don't see, we can't deal with it. Other wheels, we also don't see them. Your own wheel, you still don't know what its function is, what its role is. So, what should we deal with out of this whole mechanism, what should we focus on?
M. Laitman: We want to find the general formula.
Student: Yes?
M. Laitman: Well, that's where we will always find all the components, all the factors.
Student: How if you have no perception in each of them separately, how can you perceive the generality, the entirety, of it?
M. Laitman: There’s no such thing, you must be in several states and in each state, the x remains. And when you look at all these X’s in the system, then you can find the unknown, the x.
Student: What is the x that we're looking for in every state?
M. Laitman: That is that number upon which all the results depend upon.
Student: Is this what you always call connection; is that x, that concept, called connection?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: That's the only thing we can approach?
M. Laitman: Yes, yes, and the machine needs nothing but that, nothing else. If you can find that number, the general secret, then every part is calmed down and all are in total connection, and can continue that way, endlessly.
Question (Moscow 8): (24:21) Will I be able to call my Ten a machine, or a part of a machine?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Can we actually understand how to spin correctly if I see only a partial picture, only a part of the machine?
M. Laitman: Somehow.
Question (PT 38): (24:47) All our addition is actually something which comes to the recognition of evil. One feels recognition of evil, the other can feel something completely opposite, the desire to bestow. Why do they need to incorporate to connect? Isn't it kind of lowering from the recognition of evil and the intensity of the request from one or the other?
M. Laitman: No, they need to move toward bringing contentment to the Creator. And therefore, the fact that they don't attain it, everyone should suffer.
Alright. What else do we have for the day?
Reader: (25:45) We can either do Excerpt Number Six or we can move to our Social time.
M. Laitman: Okay but there's nothing new?
Reader: Today, no, a regular day.
M. Laitman: Very well. So, I will go.
Reader: Yes, so we're going to have a transition, and then we'll move to our social time.
Social Time