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Daily Lesson (Morning) March 11, 2025.

Part 1: Baal HaSulam. Shamati 13. A Pomegranate.

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Shamati 13. A Pomegranate

I heard during a meal on the 2nd day of Rosh Hashanah, October 5, 1948

Reading: (00:28) A pomegranate, he said, implies to what our sages said, “Even the vain ones among you are filled with Mitzvot like a pomegranate” (Iruvin 19). He said, Rimon [pomegranate] comes from the word Romemut [exaltedness/sublimity], which is above reason. And the meaning will be that the “The vain among you are filled with Mitzvot.” The measure of the filling is the extent to which one can go above reason, and this is called Romemut.

There is emptiness only in a place where there is no existence, as in “The earth hangs on nothing.” You find that what is the measure of the filling of the empty place? The answer is, the extent to which one raises oneself above reason.

This means that the emptiness should be filled with exaltedness, meaning with above reason, and to ask of the Creator to give him that strength. This will mean that all the emptiness was created, meaning it comes to a person to feel this way—that he is empty—only in order to fill it with the Romemut of the Creator. In other words, one is to take everything above reason.

This is the meaning of the verse, “God has made it that He will be feared.” This means that these thoughts of emptiness come to a person in order for one to have a need to take upon himself faith above reason. And for this we need the help of the Creator. It follows that at that time, one must ask the Creator to give him the power to believe above reason.

It turns out that it is precisely then that one needs the Creator to help him, since the exterior mind lets him understand the opposite. Hence, at that time, one has no other choice but to ask the Creator to help him.

It is said about this, “One’s desire overcomes him every day; and were it not for the Creator, he would not overcome it.” It follows that only then is the state when one understands that no one will help him but the Creator. And this is “God has made it that He will be feared.” The matter of fear is discerned as faith, and only then is one in need of the salvation of the Creator.  

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (05:03) Rav, he writes that the matter of emptiness does not… should be in a place where there is no existence. What is this place that there is no existence?

M. Laitman: Where he doesn't feel that the Creator is filling him.

Student: The existence is the feeling of fulfillment or being filled?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: If he has no connection with the Creator, he has no filling?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And then this emptiness he talks about, is as an opportunity?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: He writes one paragraph before the end, then one must ask the Creator to give him the strength to be able to believe above reason. Turns out that it is then that precisely one needs the Creator to help him since the exterior mind lets him understand the opposite. What is the external exterior mind and why does it let him understand the opposite?

M. Laitman: The exterior mind is that mind which feels and calculates the fulfillment in a person as a result of the things that fill the world, you can say that. 

Student: It's not so clear to me from the article whether my work is to ask from the Creator for faith or to try as much as possible to continue in an act of bestowal and that's the request. Meaning, it feels like there's an action needed here of a request, but we know that a request also needs to come with some… so the question in short should we ask for the force of bestowal of faith, or is our effort to continue in the act of bestowal is the request itself?

M. Laitman: Our action is to ask to fill every place where there's a feeling of deficiency with the feeling with the presence of the Creator.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (08:39) He writes here this means that emptiness needs to be filled with exaltedness, meaning with the manner of above reason. Now in this situation where a person has emptiness, how does he perform the filling above reason?

M. Laitman: He has to feel what is the feeling of above reason, which is a feeling of emptiness. The Creator is not present. He doesn't fill the emptiness and then to do these actions. To ask, to ask for the Creator to fill him.

Student: That is clear. The question is, if a person receives a blow he has some pain somewhere, a physical pain let's say, and what he wants now is for this pain to pass. He wants this pain to go away. To be in a state of emptiness is not pleasant whatsoever to the body of a person, because he wants to receive. That's his nature. Meaning, a person is in a situation that contradicts his nature, where he even feels uncomfortable in suffering. In this situation, he wants it to end. So, how does he create from that feeling that he wants this pain to… the suffering to go away, to turn to the desire in a way that he wants something completely different? How do we do this? 

M. Laitman: According to the effort that a person puts in when he wants to get closer to the Creator, he begins to feel what he is lacking. And then he discovers that this place, he realizes that this place is going to be filled with the feeling of the Creator. 

Student: According to what I understand, we will have no choice but above reason to understand it with our mind. We won't be able to at the same moments, in those moments to understand it. We have to coercively perform actions to believe it's that way, and to act even though the feeling is unpleasant, and you don't even know whether through your actions, whether this sensation will end. There's no guarantee or voodoo here that it'll change. We have to be in this uncertainty here?

M. Laitman: A man is trying to check himself. Is this feeling of emptiness fitting to fulfillment that the Creator will fill? And then gradually, he begins to feel it as such. 

Student: If I understood correctly what you said, a person needs to check whether his feeling of emptiness is suitable to the feeling of the Creator filling him.

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: How does he check such a thing?

M. Laitman: He feels that the emptiness in him is fitting only for the fulfillment of the Creator. 

Student: And he also has to come to the feeling that this state is in the mind, at least, that the Creator gave him this feeling of unpleasantness in order to reach the true solution and to turn to the Creator? 

M. Laitman: Yes. He can feel. He can feel that the Creator can fill that space, and that's what he wants.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (14:09) What's the feeling, the thoughts of emptiness?

M. Laitman: Thoughts of emptiness, which a person feels that there are in such places that demand fulfillment from the Creator. And then He tries to extend the deficiency in them. 

Student: How specifically in this picture the Creator bringing us can we work above reason? Why are those feelings of emptiness leading a person to work above reason? 

M. Laitman: Because they come from the absence of the feeling of the Creator.

Student: How precisely does the work above reason let me delight from the Creator? How does that work, where I'm working above my intellect, above my reason, causing me to fill all that's lacking with the filling of the Creator?

M. Laitman: It comes from feeling this deficiency that the Creator needs to fill. And you can feel this deficiency more and more until you need it to such an extent that the Creator fills it.

Student: Is this talking about a spiritual lack, or any deficiency for as long as the Creator fills it? Where I feel the need and the Creator shows me how to fill this deficiency?

M. Laitman: No, it does not apply to any deficiency. Rather, you're trying for every deficiency that you have to bring the Creator closer to you. Then you adapt the filling of the Creator to the filling of the deficiency.

Student: What deficiency exactly do I need to feel so that the Creator will fill it here? 

M. Laitman: You can’t say that in advance. You just feel if this is it or not. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (17:35) In this article, it talks about a dialogue with the Creator where one has these thoughts of emptiness, and he needs to correlate it to the Creator, where a person says that it comes to me so that I will go above reason. And then he discovers that he has no strength, no forces to go above reason, so he asks the Creator to give him this, and this can lead to above reason. There's a certain logic here. Why is it called faith above reason? Why doesn't it simply give him the feeling that another filling, another kind of filling?

M. Laitman: The feeling of lack comes to us from the empty place where we feel that we are missing fulfillment, and it's absent. And the matter of being filled with the fulfillment from the Creator, where the Creator fills the empty space, there is a complete feeling of lack of fulfillment. Meaning, I feel the fulfillment and I feel the One who fulfills me. And that is, in fact, what I'm yearning for.

Student: In feeling that you're filled from the yearning?

M. Laitman: The Creator that fills you. 

Student: When we talk about exaltedness, it's the person who exalts himself above this for every solution to every problem? Or is it the Creator who raised him to Him? Where is the exaltedness here? 

M. Laitman: The exaltedness is that the Creator is above every place of deficiency.

Student: But is it the action of the Creator or of the Creator being that decides that this is how He wants to see reality? 

M. Laitman: We can't quite reveal that. But it turns out that everything comes from the Creator. 

Student: That is, after every action, all that remains is gratitude to the Creator for doing it? Meaning there's no action that the person did? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (20:50) The deficiency to bestow, if I see it also, if it's correct to see it in the friends, and then it becomes a true need for help from above, where it intensifies the deficiency? 

M. Laitman: When it's possible?

Student: Is that called emptiness that a person experiences?

M. Laitman: You can relate that to a person as well. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (21:31) You said earlier that thoughts of emptiness is when we will feel that there are such places that you feel the filling from the Creator. So there's a feeling of emptiness and there's a feeling of a desire for the Creator to fill him. My question is, what kind of overcoming does a person have where he feels that he is lacking, and he asks, has a feeling from the Creator filling him? Where is the faith in this whole process?

M. Laitman: Right in the middle. Between the feeling of lack of fulfillment and the feeling of the lack of the Creator, the absence of the Creator that will fill it, fill the emptiness. That is. 

Student: He's already receiving the guidance that it's the filling from the Creator that he has to receive.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Can you reach faith above reason without feeling emptiness earlier? 

M. Laitman: What will you fill that space with?

Student: So, emptiness is the vessel. And when we feel the emptiness, and we're looking for some other filling, how do we not disperse ourselves, you know, deviate and look for some other filling? 

M. Laitman: The person begins to feel that there is None Else besides Him, and that he's dealing only with the Creator. That is why his grip on the Creator grows stronger and demands more and more each time. 

Student: When he writes that the emptiness and you are connected to the Mitzvot, what's the connection between the two here? 

M. Laitman: A Mitzva, a commandment, means that the desires that he feels are empty. He has to fill them with the feeling of the Creator. 

Student: What would the Mitzva be here? 

M. Laitman: The commandment is that we are being commanded by the Creator to be filled by Him. 

Student: The Mitzvah is to be filled by the Creator during the emptiness? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (24:58) When we feel a deficiency do we need the feeling of the filler to be the filling, or do we have to receive the filling together with the sensation of the filler? 

M. Laitman: That's a good question. We will scrutinize that later.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (25:38) At the end of the article, he writes that the matter of fear is faith. Until today, we have heard that there is fear and there is faith. What's the meaning that fear is the discernment of faith? 

M. Laitman: The faith is the feeling of the Creator. The fear, the spiritual fear, is the need for it. 

Student: Then he continues and says that only then a person necessitates the salvation of the Creator. When a person needs something, he's missing something. We always hear from you also that you have to be in joy in the work. Whoever is not in joy has no connection to the Torah. How a person, when he feels this emptiness, how can he be in joy on the other hand? 

M. Laitman: He walks on the path where he grows inside of him the power of faith. Until it grows to such dimensions, the Creator fills him.

Student: Is it from that that he feels the joy? Is it from that that he feels the joy? 

M. Laitman: He feels joy because he has some relationship toward the Creator, an attitude.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (28:06) A person can mostly observe himself and find that he has a lot of emptiness and to use it in order to rise above reason. If a person looks inwards, he will always find something that's not good that he can rise above. On the other hand, it's his individual deficiency. He needs a good reason to enter because also in the end of things, the person is also supposed to feel that the Creator gives him everything, and he doesn't need anything else on his behalf. So, we can seemingly use the deficiency of the society, something external, an external deficiency that he can use the emptiness that are in external desires to him. But in that state, how do we rise above reason? Because there's no way to act there. It's an external deficiency. We should only pray for us to have filling in that. The question is about the deficiency of the friends, which you feel externally. Can you rise above reason somehow there? Or is it only through the fulfillment, the filling, to ask for that?

M. Laitman: No, he needs to feel it as a true deficiency, his own great deficiency.

Student: Let's say he feels it as his own deficiency. Afterwards, he needs to pass this result to the friend, to the society, this filling. But to fill it, he needs a request for filling and not to rise above the emptiness. Meaning, I'm supposed to ask to fill a deficiency that's external to me. And what we're learning here is that an internal deficiency, I need to ask for filling, not to rise above it. So when I'm working with an external deficiency, I need to ask for fulfillment for it. So it turns out that I'm not rising above reason from my deficiency because I'm not engaged in it whatsoever. I don't love it or want to touch it. And also the desire of the friend, I don't want to be, I just want to fill it. When does a person truly have a need to rise above reason?

M. Laitman: When he feels it as his own deficiency. 

Student: How does a person feel that there's an external deficiency that's someone else? And then you rise above it to... Because it's still felt as someone else's deficiency that I need to fill it somehow.

M. Laitman: Yes. Maybe ask again. 

Student: I'm saying emptiness for myself, I don't ask for filling. I don't need above reason, but I also don't search for this inner deficiency. I'm not looking to enter inwards because in the end of the day, the Creator gave me all that I need and I feel like the Creator gave me everything. So I don't dig into this personal deficiency. Now if I'm talking about a deficiency from the friends, I have to ask for fulfilling for that. I don't feel like I can rise above reason with it and remain empty in this way that it remains empty. What do we do with this deficiency of the friends? 

M. Laitman: You receive him and you fill him. 

Student: Yes, that's what we learned. So, it turns out there's no rising above reason in working with the deficiency of a friend.

M. Laitman: That's how it is. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (32:52) It's written in the article. He writes that to the extent in which a person rises above reason, that that's the measure or the extent to which he fills the emptiness. Meaning as much as a person manages to rise above, that's the measure of what he will receive filling to his emptiness. And then it's written that the work above reason is the work of an Adam. And the Creator doesn't do that work in his place for him. So what's the place of the Creator here? What, just to give the person the forces to be able to go above reason? 

M. Laitman: The place of the Creator is that space which a person gradually reveals.

Student: Let's say in the work between us, it's most practical. A person identifies before him a difficulty to rise above his ego. It's hard for him with the friends. He makes an effort, and exerts, and understands that he needs to overcome everything that's inside him. Now, that's the person's work. Where does he get the force to do this? Sometimes…

M. Laitman: The power to rise above his own desires and connect to the desires of the other, this is something that a person receives from the Creator, for sure.

Student: Does he need to pray for that, for that force, for that power?

M. Laitman: He prays, yes, he prays for the power. 

Student: The moment… it’s like sometimes it seems like a person, he's the boss now, he can do anything, but that thought that a person is nothing, that he has no power to do anything, if this society gives him the importance and the ability, he's zero, he's nothing, so this gratitude that the person has to the Creator for arranging the society for him, and all this thing to him, what does he do, and what's the best thing he can do with it?

M. Laitman: I don't understand. 

Student: How does he strengthen the friends with the gratitude that he has by being rewarded with the work that he gets to do? How does he strengthen the friends so that they'll be in the same direction? 

M. Laitman: By trying to come out of himself, to acquire more and more empty desires, and to get them fulfilled.

Question (Rehovot 1): (36:37) How to see the emptiness as an opportunity to go above reason? 

M. Laitman: Try. Try. 

Student: When a person is in emptiness, where does he receive the forces to turn to the Creator with? 

M. Laitman: By turning to the feeling of emptiness. By that, he receives the power to fill it.

Question (Women Latin 26): (37:32) What is the expression, faith above reason, expressed in our daily decisions? 

M. Laitman: I don't know. What does it mean daily? Let's say that a person feels. Let's say that a person feels. No feeling of the Creator. No faith, lack of faith. And that's what propels him forward to discover more. Lack of faith. So he can overcome it. Overcome it and succeed in this way. 

Question (Woman Hebrew 2): (39:46) What's the correct measure that a person is in true spiritual work?

M. Laitman: There's no such thing as a true measurement. There isn't.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (40:24) What's the difference between emptiness and darkness? The difference between emptiness and darkness.

M. Laitman: Emptiness, you feel that he is empty, devoid of feeling. And darkness is the feeling of darkness, the feeling of emptiness itself. It's not exactly what he is lacking, rather what he is lacking compared to what he has in his vessels.

Student: Continuing it, there are states where the Creator is felt as a point, like VAK. And what is to rise above reason when there's this extended feeling that the Creator is there in your heart, but there's a point, and it doesn't develop. What is to rise above reason from such a state? Because, I don't know, it really weakens, it puts you to sleep. Sometimes you invest forces to keep that feeling, and we suffice in it, and then it gradually becomes a weakness and darkness.

M. Laitman: When you surrender. This is not a good action.

Student: What is it actually to rise above reason?

M. Laitman: To rise above reason means to take the wrong feeling, everything you can take from the current state. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (42:53) I understand from the explanations I'm hearing that he's actually talking about a principle, it's not a specific state. But according to a person's development, he will define each time a different kind of emptiness.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: It could be an emptiness from a lack of feeling of the Creator, it could be emptiness from a lack of feeling of the Creator and the friends. Emptiness can be the inability to collect the friends' desires. But this principle he's talking about is always correct, yes? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (43:53) Emptiness was not created but for a person to feel the emptiness in order to fill it with the exaltedness of the Creator. An emptiness in our world, and also I who study Kabbalah, every given opportunity I fill it with all that I can just to close up this emptiness and not feel empty. How to come to a state where emptiness leads to a demand for the exaltedness of the Creator in such a sublime thing.

M. Laitman: What is the problem if he feels this way? 

Student: The problem is that the feeling of emptiness is unpleasant to the desire to receive. The desire to receive runs to fill it, all the feelings are completely concealed in a certain way. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And here he said that the emptiness was not created but for the Creator to fill it with emptiness. 

M. Laitman: Yes, that there's nothing else with which you can fill it. 

Student: That's understood, and if I were to feel this way, I would identify emptiness as the greatest gift in reality because it leads to a connection with the upper one, the feeling of his emptiness. And so you don't get stuck with some instinct of emptiness, but you run an emptiness to receive everything that you can, because it makes me feel unpleasant. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: He asks how to grasp this feeling of emptiness, and how altogether in reality can we come to a state of filling the emptiness in order to fill it with the sublimity of the Creator. And that's the state that actually created it?

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: How does this delta, this differentiation happen, because it's not something that's practically happening? 

M. Laitman: How, through feeling all kinds of emptiness, I understand that it is all lack of faith in the Creator. And? How to come to it? I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. You should try to fill all the emptiness in you with the feeling of the Creator. And then you'll see that other than that, you truly lack nothing. Try it.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (47:37) The Creator created the desire to receive. And this desire to receive has a reason. And I heard from you once that in addition to the desire to receive, there's a small point that doesn't give me the ability to rest. Is that small point also belonging to the reason? Well, who does this point belong to?

M. Laitman: It's above reason.

Student: And I need to know that there's this point in me that's above reason? I need to know this in my awareness, that there is such a point in me? 

M. Laitman: Okay, and? 

Student: How, in the desire to receive, when I feel emptiness, how do I identify that there's something that's above reason that I need to use in order to fill this place and above reason? 

M. Laitman: You work with the will to receive that appears to you, and that's it. 

Student: And then in reason, I feel like something happened there above reason? 

M. Laitman: Yes or no? You work with the deficiency that you feel. 

Student: And with that feeling that comes in my knowledge and my feelings, do I need to share that with the friends and grow it or expand?

M. Laitman: You can have… you have other questions

Student: And something in me and my reason needs to remember that there's something above reason that needs to be filled in the correct filling, in the filling of the desire to seek the Creator, and not to seek Him in the reason of this world. Otherwise, what did I do? I'm wasting time. 

M. Laitman: Maybe. Maybe you're saying something.

Student: What do I practically do with this? Can I depict it? Can we put some kind of words into it? Can we describe something that's above reason in our mind? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: How? What to ask for? 

M. Laitman: You're asking in that empty space how to feel the Creator. How to feel the Creator. And accordingly, you continue.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (51:41) Above reason, is it a filling or a deficiency? 

M. Laitman: Above reason is a fulfillment, a filling that begets a deficiency.

Student: So the entire article here, if I understand correctly, is how a person will reach a deficiency called above reason?

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: He doesn't want to be filled with anything. The thoughts of emptiness is not in order to be filled, but the exaltedness of the Creator? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: Meaning there too, he's asking the Creator to give him the deficiency above reason? 

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: And that is actually…

M. Laitman: What he aspires to.

Student: And he's drawn to it?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (52:41) We know that the key for all our work is to come in the end to the point in which a person asks. He comes to a request from the Creator. And my question is, what is that concept of Creator from which he asks? And maybe he's turning to the wrong address. What's this concept of Creator that we need to ask from? 

M. Laitman: The upper force. The upper force. The origin of everything. The source.

Student: At this point, if we can refine this address that's called the Creator. Can you see in the people of Israel and humanity, each says Creator. Each person has some Creator of his own. But to a Kabbalist, the concept of Creator is completely different from all the variety of Creator there is. What is the Creator that he turns to? 

M. Laitman: For a Kabbalist, the Creator is the one who is at the beginning, at the root of each and every creation in the world. 

Student: Now in the reality of a person, we know that the Creator talks to a person through endless situations, complete varied states. And there are times when, let's say now a person says, all right, now the Creator talked to me. In another situation, the Creator doesn't hear that the Creator is talking to him. A person doesn't feel that the Creator is talking to him. So my question is, in what question or in what direction does a person need to be in order to hear in every single thing that the Creator is filling? 

M. Laitman: He should demand the Creator in every state. 

Student: What does that mean, to demand the Creator in every state? To demand what?

M. Laitman: To feel that the reason for every state he's going through is the Creator.

Student: You said that if a person feels a lack of feeling of the Creator, a lack of faith, this catapults him forward. It kind of connects in the end to what is the lack of reality that is not without the Creator. What is it called? Now I'm grasping a reality that there's no Creator in it. What does that mean? What is that reality? 

M. Laitman: The vessels that you cannot build. If you can't build those vessels, you can't measure, you can't know, you can't feel. Therefore, there's nothing to answer here.

Student: In reality, I have friends, and the friends can show me. Is it correct that the friends can show me, show a person if he has the Creator in his reality or not, through the friends, in the way he relates to it? 

M. Laitman: Maybe. 

Student: What is the role of the friends in our lives, which is what defines the connection with the Creator? 

M. Laitman: That through the friends, I reveal the Creator. 

Student: There's a relationship between the friends that is considered the relationship with the Creator?

M. Laitman: I relate to them in such a way that they are the Creator for me.

Student: Excuse me, what? 

M. Laitman: They determine my future states. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (58:24) In the end, all of us, at least that's how I feel, we're all looking for the emptiness, we see the emptiness that we want filling for. Now, in corporeality, when people have a very strong desire for something and they connect, they get great forces to attain it. How do we here receive it between us in such a way that we can work with this emptiness, we can work with these situations that are challenging? Or will it always remain private work? 

M. Laitman: Try to connect, and out of this strong effort between you, feel the source of the power.

Student: But before that, we need to understand together that we need this force, that without this force of connection... 

M. Laitman: No, but without deficiency, there's nothing.

Student: Yes, so we need to reach that?

M. Laitman: Understanding, yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (59:33) I have a Rav, and I can only receive a drop, one gram from him, not even that. And Rav fills all my horizon, all of reality. And I feel this pain that I can't receive from him anything from what he has to give me, what he can give me, what he wants to give me, and needs to give me. And this pain is intolerable. First of all, what do I do with this thing? 

M. Laitman: I don't know what you want to do. 

Student: It also multiplies itself, because to the same extent that he can't give me, he can't receive what he wants, what he needs to receive from above. What do I want to do? The pain that's happening is intolerable. And he's talking here about some empty space here. I don't see an empty space where I could aim the ton that the Rav wants to give. Let's say I want to receive it. I tried, but I can't. Maybe you can aim it somewhere else where the Rav could pour this ton and receive a new ton.

M. Laitman: I can't. I can't. 

Student: It's like chess here. We're playing checkmate. 

M. Laitman: No, no, don't confuse us. 

Student: No, but there's a state here I feel that I cannot receive what my Rav wants to give, my upper one. I can't receive it. There's like this pressure on me that the pain that I'm feeling that he's sensing, that he's not giving me is immense. It's much more than my ability to sustain this pain. What do I do with this state? 

M. Laitman: Pray. 

Student: Okay, so upon what do I need to pray for me to receive the ability? A miracle should happen. I don't care what happens as long as my Rav can give a ton, that's the prayer.

M. Laitman: You need to pray so that you'll come to a good reaction to your deficiency. 

Student: I have to come to an example to my deficiency here? To an answer? To a repentance? So I have a response. I'm living in a state where the pain that's being poured on me of my upper because of me, because of me, is intolerable, and it's because I have no empty space in me. I have no vessel whatsoever to receive. He's saying that the vessel needs to be the exaltedness of the Creator or the existence of the Creator, from what I understood. First of all, I don't understand what that is altogether, and I have no such place to receive it. I have nowhere to receive it. 

M. Laitman: So you haven't matured yet. You did not grow up yet. 

Student: Yes, but I'm living in a state where I practically have pressure of my upper one that is intolerable pain from him, like a mother that wants to nurse this physical pain, and I don't know what to do with it. I'm standing before it, and I don't know how to come out of this state at all. I pray. I'm constantly asking for this state to receive some kind of solution, but I don't see that it's moving anywhere. It just stays where this pain that I can't receive anything from my Rav goes and grows each time more and more, and then it expands in all kinds of ways. But it's only going and growing all the time. How do I do something with such a thing altogether?

M. Laitman: I have no answer. 

Student: If I have such a powerful state in me, let's say the Creator is awakening this in me. What to tell Him? What should I ask Him? 

M. Laitman: You understand that in your situation, you need to look for a new guide instead of me. 

Student: There is no other guide except for you. What do you mean? 

M. Laitman: What do you mean? I told you this a long time ago.  

Student: Thank you.

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