The transcript has been transcribed and edited from English simultaneous interpretation, thus there may be potential semantic inaccuracies within it.
Daily Lesson (Morning), December 19, 2024.
Part 1: Lesson on the Topic: Awakening Of The Group
Reader: Hello, we will begin our lesson with a special portion we will hear from Rav.
Student: Hello friends, world Kli. Yesterday the friends in the Ten had an opportunity to go on a little trip with Rav to the park. We had a talk with Rav and he said a few important things that we plan to listen to in the last part of the lesson to have a social discussion. And because Rav was delayed and will arrive later to the lesson, we decided to take advantage of this special time to hear these special things, now, that relate to each one of us in the Ten, each Ten and the entire group. So, let's listen together, it's about 14 minutes.
Let's listen with a common ear to his words and after that, we'll have a workshop and be able to enter the lesson in this way and ask Rav questions. Let's listen and awaken together.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:20) How can we differentiate between the evil tongue – Lashon Hara in Hebrew– and constructive criticism?
M. Laitman: Rabash also says it's a very thin line, that's it.
Student: Because according to what you explained today, a few days ago, you said it's better to just keep quiet, keep silent.
M. Laitman: That's certain.
Student: Yes, so it's certain to end up in the evil tongue, slander. But if you calculated it and you think it could be useful, beneficial. How could I make it beneficial to the friends, to the society? It's not possible to keep quiet always, if I see something where I think there could be an improvement made. How to open my mouth in such a way where it's not like opening the sewage, the sewer. But, you know, for good things, beneficial things to come out of there. What's the recommendation? No recommendation?
M. Laitman: I don't feel, I don't feel that I'm ready to withstand this.
Student: So, we can say that your recommendation is to keep quiet and that's always best?
M. Laitman: I, for myself, feel that for the time being, I need to keep quiet.
Student: For example, if you have something constructive, do you have any constructive criticism for our group, for our group, for the organization, not the group, the organization; and with respect to dissemination also?
M. Laitman: What? It's asleep.
Student: What? It's asleep. Oh, sleep, truly? Well, how can we wake it up?
M. Laitman: I feel every day when they come out of the lesson and enter the day, what they must do during that day? What moves them, what do they have to reach?
Student: During the lesson, also, you feel that people are sleeping?
M. Laitman: In the lesson, there's a lot of wind.
Student: You mean good spirits?
M. Laitman: No, just wind.
Student: Oh, just wind. How can we improve the lessons because we get out of there with a certain charge, right? So, how to...
M. Laitman: It depends on how you get into the lesson. That you expect the lesson, anticipate it.
Student: The lesson will become a strong lesson, where it's not just wind but a good spirit that goes through? It depends on the preparation of each individual, our preparation Tens? Or actually how the lesson goes, the way people ask questions, and so on.
M. Laitman: No.
Student: We don't have a problem with that?
M. Laitman: No, it depends on what you expect from the lesson.
Student: Today, the friends in the World Kli that come to you every lesson. You don't feel that they come with some anticipation, alerts?
M. Laitman: No.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (05:27) How can we wake up people have been studying for 20 years, 30 years? It becomes kind of a habit. How to renew this awakening every time?
M. Laitman: I don't understand, how can it be a habit? How can it be a habit? Habit is death.
Student: Habit is death?
M. Laitman: It's simply one-to-one.
Student: What's your advice to the group? To this dormant group?
M. Laitman: Each one must care about the friend, how to awaken him.
Student: That's in our inner work, in thought you mean? Or is that the main thing?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: What else bothers you in the organization?
M. Laitman: Nothing bothers me, I'm in such a state where they gave me, they prepared for me, they brought me. That's it, I don't agree to get through it like this.
Student: What do you mean? You don't agree, what do you mean?
M. Laitman: I don't agree to passing my life in this way. If I would agree, I would never come to the lesson. I come to the lesson with the intention to join. To join the deficiency that exists in the group.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (07:53) How do you summarize the year?
M. Laitman: The year. Neither here nor there. On the one hand, there is probably some progress, some advancement; on the other hand, you're back to the same course, again.
Student: You're talking about the people of Israel?
M. Laitman: No, no, us! Us.
Student: It's not clear because in the lessons, you project or you say that yes, we're advancing. Soon we will get there.
M. Laitman: I must say this or create such an impression. Otherwise, what are we doing during the lesson?
Student: But why this impression, specifically? Why not criticism? Why not tell it to our faces? Maybe that will awaken us?
M. Laitman: I saw that criticism doesn't bring any benefit.
Student: Giving an impression of you're almost in Lishma, when it's not actually the truth. Is that good? Does that help us advance more?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: I still don't understand the approach with respect to managing groups, students. Should we always encourage, promise things, always, always give a positive impression, positive, uplifted spirits?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: No criticism. With students, there's no criticism.
M. Laitman: Criticism can be either when you are close to them, among them. Or when you are distant, separate, from each other?
Student: Either when close or distant from each other. If we're distant, then it's possible to be critical?
M. Laitman: Yes, because that's already the nature of things.
Student: We can come to the students and tell them, you're sleepy, you're not preparing properly. Is there room for that?
M. Laitman: It depends on the way it's done.
Student: What you just said about the group. What you just said about the group, would you like for all the students to hear that?
M. Laitman: Yes! I said, in the past, worse things.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (11:03) What should the group do in order to be alert, awake?
M. Laitman: The group – I'm talking about Tens – they need to be tight, tighter, that's it and not be afraid of criticism.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (11:54) What is a close-knit Ten?
M. Laitman: A close-knit Ten, a tight Ten, each one is close to the others.
Student: We, in our Ten, do you see us as close together, closely knit?
M. Laitman: Almost.
Student: Do you think that we're ready to conduct criticism towards each other? Won't that harm us, dismantle the Ten, maybe? Currently, in the current moment?
M. Laitman: Try to bring up some criticism and see what's happening.
Student: I sit with a friend in the lesson, for example. I see him at some point just take his phone and read the news in the lesson. Now, on the one hand, I understand this is wrong, not good. But, also I feel uncomfortable to say anything, he'll just get angry, annoyed. So, I have all these calculations going and this is every day, every day it's not just a one-time thing. I don't know, I don't know what the right thing to do is. I know that he'll get angry. I know that he'll, well, he won't accept this, on the one hand. But, also, I see that he's chopping his hands and feet like that – cutting himself. Maybe, what do you mean by chopping his hands and feet? He's chopping our hands and feet, it's worse.
M. Laitman: Really.
Student: Is it harmful to the Ten or to the individual?
M. Laitman: The Ten.
Student: Alright, so if he's harming the Ten, it's my body, he's chopping my foot off now, then I'm obligated to say something.
M. Laitman: You should feel it.
Student: I don't but I am obligated. Theoretically, I know that he's cutting. If I truly felt that he's cutting into me like that, well, maybe. But I know that if I will give him that criticism, he won't accept it well, so I stay quiet. Maybe I can say, okay, I don't care what he thinks about me, what he says about me, I'll just say it as it is.
M. Laitman: Well, you have all kinds of situations.
Student: If I don't feel that the Ten is a single body but I know intellectually that this is causing damage. I heard it from the teacher more than once that during the lesson you shouldn't be watching the news.
M. Laitman: No, that's already.
Student: Am I allowed to tell him that? I don't feel it.
M. Laitman: No, no, no.
Student: I tell him straight to his face?
M. Laitman: Yes, yes, he's stealing from you!
Student: So, I'm allowed to tell him because he's stealing from me and from all of us when he clears. Now, how throughout the day, not in the lesson specifically. How throughout the day to obligate yourself to that connection like a stubborn donkey that's not drawn towards that? How to force myself to pray for the friends, to connect, to demand?
M. Laitman: Example; set an example. More than that, I don't know.
Reader: Alright, friends, Rav is with us now. We'll update Rav: we just heard a talk you had with us yesterday about the condition of the group and maybe we can start with the question, the first question.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (15:37) Again, we started the lesson with an audio clip. A recording of a talk we had with you yesterday. Where we talked about how the group is asleep and that we need to awaken more and more. Now, all the friends heard that talk, all over the world Kli. What is this state when the group is dormant, sleepy?
M. Laitman: It's close to disconnection from everyone where each one feels himself in a certain bubble. And he's not touching others, they aren't touching him. It's not good, it disconnects him from the collective.
Student: We're now starting a lesson, we're entering the lesson together. What can each person do, right now, to awaken the group from its sleep, from its disconnection?
M. Laitman: Check how much he's joined with everyone. How much he feels everyone, to what extent everyone is connected? And are building the center of the group in this way; that's first of all.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (17:50) How to burst that bubble that each one is in?
M. Laitman: I need to ensure that all participants are in a state that is outside of sleep. Outside of the state of slumber, outside of their own thoughts; that's first of all. And later, it could be that those in charge of the state of the lesson, that they will begin to awaken the group.
Student: What is the force, what is the action that a person can take to burst his own bubble and everyone's bubbles?
M. Laitman: First of all, example, example.
Student: What is this example of me not being in a bubble?
M. Laitman: I look at them, their bubble, and I want them to feel that they're disconnected from the lesson. And then, later, I start to notice a few people, those in charge of awakening the public, and that's it.
Student: When a person comes to the lesson and, in general, when working on the connection with his Ten. What are the actions he should take prior to coming to them? Being with them, so as not to be in that bubble?
M. Laitman: I don't know, do you have phones that can ring and talks you can hear and so on and so forth and the usual times? Or, before, when the sirens were going off? The main thing during that time is to think that everyone needs to be together.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (21:09) The question is when we say that the group is in slumber, we want to give an example so they wake up, on what level? On the level of the Ten, on the level of the Petah Tikva group, the whole world's Kli?
M. Laitman: Well, it's recommended that on the screens, they'll see us awake.
Student: That's during the lesson?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: As I understand it, we need to awaken in general, in the relations between us. As I understand, there are many people who have been studying for a long time, it's a habit. They have certain roles in the society, meals, and so on.
M. Laitman: Nevertheless, you have to start with the fact that each group should have one, two responsible people who will be in charge of the alertness of the group.
Student: The group, not the Ten, the group?
M. Laitman: The Ten, no, I mean the Ten.
Student: Meaning that each Ten, maybe there's a Ten that's on fire and then there's a Ten that's dormant. And not necessarily here in Petah Tikva, in other cities, it'll just work out, differently?
M. Laitman: I'm not dividing it by location, I'm dividing it by Tens. The state of the Tens and they have to work on the presence of the friends in the Ten.
Student: Can a weak, dormant Ten receive energy and example from other Tens?
M. Laitman: It can, if it remembers. If it knows what to do or the actions.
Student: Everyone knows what to do, it's all written. But I'm talking about a situation where there's a weaker Ten, maybe half of it, maybe a third of the people come to the lesson. And there's another Ten that's stronger. Everyone comes, they're very active. Can the weaker Ten take the stronger Ten as an example?
M. Laitman: In a sense, yes. But for that, we need those people who are separate, who are separated. Those who are not prepared to study in the beginning of the lesson – wherever they are – they need an awakening.
Student: Another question: There was this scrutiny, now. There was a question, if I see a friend looking at the news in the middle of the lesson, it's as if my hands and feet are being cut. If there's a Ten that's sleepy and there are other Tens there. Isn't that like a like a limb from the body that's severed? Shouldn't all the Tens take care of the weaker Tens?
M. Laitman: Yes, they should, of course.
Student: I'm asking because we also heard about criticism, right? There was a question in the beginning of the recorded talk.There are friends who are more active, friends who are less active. Those who, those whom it hurts more or less, those who are in a kind of rut after 20 years. And you said, if I come to the lesson, if I come to the lesson, it's not for no reason. I want to get something out of it, right? Friends asked all sorts of questions. They came to the management, friends came with criticism to the management team. And they said they feel there's not enough group activity, not in the Ten. Is there room for such criticism, is it a natural demand? How to relate to that?
M. Laitman: It's not that important. Rather, what's important is that everyone understands, accepts the idea that the Ten has to be as one. And who awakens, by what? That's the main thing: Is that each and every person will make an inner decision that he has to connect now to the collective.
Student: Nonetheless, our organization should have some body in charge, if it's management or not. If it's a social committee, should there be some body taking care of weaker Tens?
M. Laitman: Yes, there should be a few people who, each lesson, and they can be in rotation but that they awaken the collective. Those who are here should not be sleepy. You enter this space, you must be an active person in the lesson.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (27:19) A few minutes ago, we heard this talk. And you said the group is slumbering. Now, if you asked me, I would never say that, I would never even consider that the group is in slumber. How do I, as a member of the group, even identify that the group is slumbering? How can we understand if I'm in a Ten that's asleep right now? How can I tell, what does it mean?
M. Laitman: It's a matter of numbers: How many out of the collective would be half asleep, quarter asleep, completely disconnected from the group, and vice versa?
Student: When you speak of, when you talk about the Tens, the group being asleep. Do you mean that you're talking about people who find it hard to just stay awake in the lesson?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: To emerge from that state, we're in the Ten, we're sleepy, we should just make sure that all the friends are simply alert in the lesson, starting from that, right? The simplest, you say that this is a good way to measure it?
M. Laitman: Yes. Yes.
Student: I get it.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (28:52) There are certain states where the entire Ten may be present but there's a kind of a rut, a state where there's no connection between the friends. We come here. We do everything as is proper. We're in the lesson but the connection between the friends, the concern, perhaps, isn't quite there. Is that also considered a dormant Ten or are you talking more about just being here in the lesson and so on?
M. Laitman: I'm not talking about attendance. If you bring someone and he feels like he's still in bed. That's not okay. I see people who come to the lesson, they're still in bed.
Student: You're talking about an inner fire in each one?
M. Laitman: Yes, that, when approaching this place, he has to prepare himself to enter as, like one of, part of everyone.
Student: Can you perhaps focus more on that fire? What's burning in him?
M. Laitman: He's now entering the lesson. He has to incorporate with all his friends, together, to be together with them in the lesson or the purpose of the lesson is first of all for them to connect and out of their connection to look for a grip in the Creator and advance.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (30:53) In the talk you mentioned that saying that we are close awakens us, which isn't necessarily the truth of the situation. In my time also, in workshops or during the preparation for the lesson, I said something which is a lie: Friends, this is the day. Today, we connect, today we finish it. It's done. Inside of me I don't feel anything. Are these kinds of actions good, proper, maybe sometimes or always?
M. Laitman: We have to see the general state we're in and make a calculation accordingly.
Student: There are members of the Ten who understand this. They understand that there's some acting that takes place but sometimes people cooperate, sometimes it works well, sometimes not necessarily so.
M. Laitman: We have to talk about it. We have to talk about it. When everyone enters a single lesson, and this is, we’re talking about hundreds of people, we need to determine our line of development. How do we begin the lesson? Where we’re in the middle of it? Where we are at in the end of it? What's before us and in this way we advance, day to day.
Student: I didn't hear an answer if it's worthwhile to do this or not but I also have another question. Previously, a friend asked about investment in my own Ten and investment of Tens in other Tens. In the beginning of my path, I was concerned about my own attendance. I need to come here and I need to take care of dissemination and so on but very quickly it became clear to me that this does nothing and I have to worry about these things with respect to the friends, the friends' sense of importance. I have the question, clearly, when my Ten is in good condition and we have to take care of the other Tens and the group as a whole and so on. Where is the right balance in terms of investing in my Ten, after which we, as a Ten, begin to invest in the Tens around us? When is it? How to create this balance? When to start investing in the other Tens or maybe never and only in our own Ten?
M. Laitman: When you have a feeling that you are in the Ten in a single connection, you need to immediately form a connection with the other Tens.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (34:19) We heard in the recording, we heard you say that each one has to take care of the friends, awakening them, and the friend asked you if you’re talking about the inner work and your thoughts and you said yes. My question is, regarding the thoughts, what is a thought through which I take care of the friend, awakening him?
M. Laitman: That you and him are together in the lesson in the same thought; even in the same percentage of awakening, the two of you.
Student: You said another thing. You said that we come to the lesson with the intention of joining the lack of the group. How can I feel the group's lack?
M. Laitman: Think about it during the day and see how it affects you during the lesson.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (35:51) You told the friend that you have this feeling that you're connected as one in the Ten and, when that happens, you can take care of what's outside of that. Now, I see a great rift here. We have a lot of work to do to reach a feeling of one connection and I see how much more I have to invest in the Ten. At the same time, how can I remain indifferent when we have a lot to add to the general group? I heard whent he got up and asked. I feel his questions. I feel that we have a lot to add in terms of the general group. Also, I heard from management when they spoke to us. They said that we have an organizational challenge, how to take care of all the Tens in the world group.
M. Laitman: We see that that's how Rabash treated a person. This group is a small environment and then the big general group. We should also divide our attention in this way. That's it.
Student: Can a small group reach wholeness without caring about the wholeness of the larger group?
M. Laitman: Possible. Maybe.
Student: Is it just me escaping if I'm looking for things outside of the Ten, places where I can work and add?
M. Laitman: Before you arrange your own inner group, you can't take care of the outer group.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (37:47) In our Ten, in awakening the friends, first of all, a dormant friend is a very complicated and crafty creature and you don't just make a demand and he wakes up. What we found is that only when there's true inspiration from the connection exists, that can happen, and, in that place, a request to the Creator, a prayer, where whoever isn't part of it joins it—and that's what worked. Criticism, demands towards the friends—that never helped us, really. There's another thing, is there anything else that's right and proper and will awaken the friend?
M. Laitman: Simply awaken the friend with all the means you feel to be correct.
Student: What I feel will be correct?
M. Laitman: Each one according to whatever he feels.
Student: I need to pay attention. Maybe he doesn't awaken the friend. Maybe if I make demands of him?
M. Laitman: I have nothing to add. You can say that always.
Student: We should have this sense of criticism over ourselves regarding the extent to which we manage to awaken them and try, what?
M. Laitman: Yes. Yes, that too, as a Ten.
Student: To look and to see if there's a response or not. Alright so, from that place, when is it right to turn to the Creator?
M. Laitman: Turn to the Creator all the time, to help, to participate, to set an example and so on and so forth.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (39:41) It's clear that the lesson will be a presentation of how we prepared for it throughout the day. We always talk about excitement, inspiration, and so on. Is there also room to talk about fear? What will happen to us if we're not alert and awake in the lesson?
M. Laitman: Of course, it's one of the ingredients. We understand from our attitude to the lesson that if we continue in this way, we will reach nowhere. Rather, what was is what will be. Hence, we must always raise the height of excitement from the lesson, the demand from the lesson, the attitude toward the lesson.
Student: So, there's room also, to an extent, to talk about this in the preparation for the lesson. Because the Tens prepare throughout the day. It's not that suddenly there's a lesson.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Holland): (41:27) How can we as a world Kli be, let's say, more participative and more alive and active in the morning lesson?
M. Laitman: Again.
Student: He's asking how the friends in the world Kli can participate more actively, more alive in the morning lesson?
M. Laitman: We need to set such goals for ourselves each time greater and closer to our true goal. So it will be clear to everyone that this is how we come to the morning lesson.
Student: How can we be an example? Sometimes it takes two, two and a half hours before we can ask a question.
M. Laitman: It's a problem. It's a problem. If you understand what is the main topic of the lesson, you feel that you can deviate from this topic in a certain direction. How do you respond to the feeling of disbursement relative to the topic of the lesson? This is first and foremost. Number two. I don't feel those who are here have a certain role. But I see that every day there's a number of people who enter the lesson. And after a few minutes, five minutes later, ten minutes later, I don't understand. Does it belong to their daily work, the service to the group? Or why does it happen? You need to work on it, to remove these things. Someone who comes to the lesson, he comes to it like everyone. Even a few minutes before the lesson, he should be seated and be ready for the lesson. Like everyone. That's very interruptive..
Student: When there is, let's say, a topic going on, and you want to be very relevant, you want to be very participative in, let's say in the questions, to be adding to the friends. How can the world clearly be participative in, let's say in a discussion or in questions which are going on, on a theme? We would like to add, also.
M. Laitman: Yes, I think that they have a place with everyone together as long as they truly, they're truly connected to us, to the topic of the lesson, the process, the flow of the lessons. And not feel like they just fell from the sky, okay?