Morning Lesson November 30, 2022, Transcription
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Part 1:
Faith Above Reason - Selected Excerpts from the Sources. #62
Reading Item 62 (00:54) RABASH, Article No. 924, "And God Spoke to Moses”
1. Rav’s Introduction: (02:54).This means that the person should make efforts here to connect with the force of bestowal this is called 'above nature', the force of faith, that is called above nature and when he connects with such a disposition then he seemingly shifts into another kind of connection between him and everyone this environment and the Creator and the world. He then operates with a force of bestowal like the Creator and then in such a way he already elevates himself above all the arguments, above all the obstacles and he enters the upper nature. Why does that happen? What does he say here? Only after despairs from nature that with his ordinary qualities he is not able to achieve the right connection between him and others and the Creator and he asks for help from above to be given help above nature that he will be given such forces that he will be able to connect with everyone in vessels of bestowal.
2. S. (04:48) I see from the excerpt that I will not be able to ask for help above reason if I am not despaired within nature, within my nature to what extent am I supposed to be in despair to sincerely ask for this?
R. With your present qualities you cannot achieve a connection with the Creator. You can't, you have to rise above your nature of the receiver to the nature of the giver, the bestower then you will be able to connect with him to feel, to understand ,to talk with Him to enter a connection with Him.
S. Is it possible to somehow work in advance without reaching such despair?
R. Specifically when a person reaches despair this is the expected and good and purposeful state. When I try to do whatever is within my power and I see that I am not capable of it and I'm never able to succeed in that and then I surrender, and I am able to go in faith above reason in the force of bestowal and the force of the Creator.
S. It is just that we work in this that we have some support with a friend's, some group, we are always talking about this, that we support our friends that they will not despair.
R. Along with that since I want to reach the quality of bestowal, but I can't. I have to be certain that I'm going in the right way even though in the end I reached the decision that with my own power I will never be able to achieve the force of bestowal and then from here on I break out with the direct request and get the force of the stole from above.
3. S. (07:31) What point within myself reaches this despair?
R. This point very much wants to reach spirituality contact with the Creator. It discovers its helplessness have the force of the bestowal it is only the desire to reach that but the force itself does not exist. This is the point that remains empty, and it is what brings me to contact with the Creator
4. S. (08:21) In the article it says the Creator can help above reason, how does the Creator help?
R. The Creator helps in that he gives you the forces to bestow.
5. S. (08:53) Can we expand on this, what it means to be connected with everyone, in vessels bestowal?
R. Imagine to yourself what it might be and that's it. I can't explain things that are revealed in our emotions, our feelings. We don't have enough words to explain it.
S. Vessels of man or what he feels in the friends?
R. This is actually the friends, but it is revealed in the person. Whatever is revealed, is revealed in the person. We speak about the Creator, the friends and everyone. It is all revealed in the person.
6. S. (09:52) This state of despair that it speaks of here, we are talking about internal work here , Is it speaking about a broken heart ?
R. Yes
7. S. (10:28) Continuing from what the friend was asking, is it possible to come to any degree of above reason? In the Ten we are always praying for connection and for the Creator to help us, Do we as a Ten need to come to a level of despair? Entering this congress, Lishma does the entire Kli need to come to a point of despair in order to raise MAN and enter Lishma.
R. No ,not the entire vessel . We have to help each other to advance. That is one thing. Second,
we need to understand that this is the goal, and this is what we need to yearn for.
S. Are there different levels of despair? Can we reach that without coming to a state of despair?
R. Certainly, there are degrees of despair however we need to very quickly reach the understanding, the awareness and recognition of the upper force. The despair should be there only as a turning point for us so we will shift to bestow, to faith. The despair should to my own forces to reach in order to bestow
8. S. (12:52) When we reach a decision or a state when my forces cannot reach bestowal what is the crying out dependent on?
R. On the general support of the friends.
9. S. (13:17) If I am yearning all the while I can no reach despair and I cannot be with friends without you learning
R. Try more and more and with all of your friends as much as possible.
R. (13:45) We will continue with the excerpts and from that we will learn how they develop this matter.
10 S. (14:00) How should I relate to that?
R. Repeat everything from the beginning.
S. I wanted to ask what is the ten for me and how should I relate to it?
R. You should accept the ten that it is that same mechanism in which you discover the Creator's attitude towards you. In which you discover your relation to the Creator and in it, you unite, you connect, you discover the Dvekut between you and the Creator and according to the measure of Dvekut that exists between you and the Creator, through the ten you discover the upper world, the spiritual world, your spiritual state it is all inside of the ten. It is as we learned regarding the Kli that it incorporates ten Sefirot, ten different parts and they all connect together
11. S. (16:01) How does the assistance of the Creator come after despair? Does it come by some images and sensations?
R. I cannot really say. And the way it is revealed, that is how it is revealed. The way the Creator reveals it is how he reveals it.
12. S. (16:33) This point of despair within reason, it feels like suffering but above reason it's felt like freedom. Is that true?
R. I do not know. I do not understand what you said: the point of despair is revealed as a point of freedom above reason?
S. The sensation of freedom from the ego? An ability to raise the request upward?
R. Okay, we will see it I guess. There is something to what you say. We will discover it and feel it soon. How much this is true or not or not so precise.
Reading Excerpt #63 twice (17:40) “When One Believes In the delight and pleasure that exists…”
13. R. (22:00) Now I recommend to have a workshop. In which sentences can we turn to the Creator so that our appeal will be as a prayer to reach the correction of our Kli. To shift what we have now to a Kli of faith, or a Kli of bestowal. The Kli of within reason and a Kli of above reason. So how can we bring that with a few words and as he says here the feeling of bad later yields the feeling of delight and pleasure, since the recognition of evil in the sensation of the organs causes him then to correct the bad. This is done primarily through prayer. When he asks the Creator to give him Kelim of bestowal called Dvekut. Through these Kelim the goal will be revealed in open Providence. Meaning that it needs to be, there will be no need for concealment because there will already be Kelim that are able to receive. So it no longer needs to be in concealment because there are already vessels in which to receive them and one can receive the revelation of the path of the Creator, of His state because he already has Kelim for it. He already has a Masach and Ohr Hozer and he can receive it in a revealed manner. Okay? So how do we put together a few words or a few sentences, not many, in order to direct them to the Creator and reach what we want to reach. How do we express with just a few words our appeal to the Creator in the right way. As correctly as possible emotionally, intellectually, to the point; it doesn't matter. Let us do it.
Reading item #64 twice. (30:00) “When one gives all his energy and efforts..”
14. S. (33:43) What does it mean that the world was created for the fear of heaven?
R. All of nature which I discover it's all in order for me through this nature that I will relate to the Creator as There is None Else Besides Him and Good doing Good. That this is the foundation of the fear of heaven.
15 S. (34:19) What causes a person to awaken and ask questions?
R. The power of the evil inclination that exists within man. This is why this wicked one awakens its force awakens and it demands his share; this is the desire the Creator created, and it exists inside of us.
16. S. (34:48) Why is work in connection bringing us to the fear of heaven?
R. Work in connection awakens Ohr Makif and the Ohr Makif brings us the feeling of the presence of the upper force that is working on us, and this brings us the feeling of the fear of heaven. Meaning that we need to reach the revelation of the contact with, working with, connecting with this force, this Ohr Makif, with the Creator. This is why the work in the group, only it brings us to the upper force.
16. S. Fear of heaven, does that mean the importance of the Creator?
R. The fear of heaven is the importance of the Creator, yes.
S. So actually the whole world was created in order that we will operate from within ourselves and acknowledge the importance of the Creator?
R. Yes in such a way we can discover the second force in nature, the upper force, the force of the bestowal.
17. S. (36:45) When it says I'm not giving you an intellectual answer and this is a sign for you to know that the work is in faith above reason. It is like you take the wind out of the sails from the evil inclination. And so my question is, how can we put that unity or wholeness above duality?
R. The matter is that within reason then the intellect we cannot connect at all. Only above reason, above the intellect and force of bestowal and the force of bestowal we can connect and not in any other manner. You see from all the opportunities that humanity had over history we did not succeed to connect.
18. S. (38:06) Ohr Makif is Hassidim?
R. Ohr Makif is Ohr Makif.
19. S. (38:39) From where does a person draw the confidence to help the wicked one if the wicked one is all he knows?
R. It is written that envy, lust, and honor bring a person out of the world. So if he is the corrected root then these forces of envy, lust, and honor they help him to rise above his present state.
20. S. (39:19) At What stage comes the confidence in the environment that he can really trust anything?
R. Slowly, gradually he begins to accumulate in himself all sorts of sensations and facts and in sum total they come to him and build some new foundation. That is it. And he stands upon that and rises on that.
21. S. (40:00) The wicked one asks these questions but actually thanks to the wicked one’s questions we reach a place where there are no answers. A place of faith above reason is that how it is?
R. Correct. Both the wicked and the righteous in man all are managed by the Creator.
22. S. (40:36) You just answered that lust and honor bring us out of this world and help us overcome the wicked one but that same wicked one is the one that does not allow us to envy. It brings everything below reason. What do we do?
R. This wicked still does not escape you.
23. S. (41:16) If the desire leads us to ask questions that bring us closer, is this still the wicked one?
R. Yes.
S. Why but it brings us closer?
R. Of course it brings us closer but not directly.
S. Why does that matter?
R. It is a very big difference.
S. What is the difference?
R. The difference is that he brings distance in the meantime and this farness can take time and forces.
24. S. (42:08) What is the difference between the work that he says here in the excerpt that, “now I'm walking on the path of faith” and then he tells him that it is a sign that he should know that the work is in the faith above reason. What is the difference between these two states?
R. Yes, faith and faith above reason I think in this case it is not really important. He means the same thing. Sometimes he uses faith but not here, which is the common faith. That is how a person is taught as a child. That a person is taught that there is a Creator, and this is how things need to be done, and you'll have either heaven and hell and so on the common faith. But we are talking about faith above reason which is already the quality of the Creator that we want to be. To that quality we want to rise.
25. S. (43:33) How can I keep the fear of heaven?
R. Within this you are looking at the friends and receiving such a sensation from them. Try it.
26. S. (44:20) In relation to this exercise you just gave us, can we define it as scrutinizing the prayer in the ten?
R. Partially yes.
S. Each time at the end of the lesson we do a summary for the lesson and we build a prayer. Each one from his state says a sentence and we connect these sentences and this is how the prayer is built which we read between us in the Zoom meetings, etc. How important is it to do this scrutiny each time?
R. Not many do this and those that do I'm sure they are advancing consciously and correctly.
S. If so, I have a question. Each one from his state let us say someone is in the feeling of hatred towards the Creator or someone feels hatred towards the friends. Another one has a desire for spirituality but he cannot reach it or someone says he doesn't want to reach it. How do we connect all of these into a single request?
R. Imagine to yourself that all of these states come to you from one Creator; the Only One and in each one of you, the states are all with the respect to the private state of the person and so you need to annul, to remove all of your private states in order to reach the general state that the Creator is inserting between you. Think about it.
S. This exercise is directed towards that exactly?
R. Yes.
27. S. (46:50) They both are because of a deficiency. Is there a difference between a question and a prayer?
R. Actually it could be that there is no difference. It depends on what is asked and what is being prayed for. It is hard to say if there is or isn't a difference. It is all dependent on a person's intention. What does he want in this that he is asking or praying.
S. Then can I ask after one reaches faith above reason, he doesn't have any more questions but is he still in prayer? There's a difference there right, then the will to receive?
R. Yes. In faith above reason he is praying only in order to reach greater bestowal. More bestowal.
28. S. (48:13) How much does the force of envy, lust, and honor. How necessary are they in order to advance in Lishma?
R. We will not begin to open this up. These three factors can raise a person above his entire ego. All in all our ego is nourished from these three factors.
S. At the level of the individual it is clear how to awaken it. The question is how do we activate these forces at the level of the ten. How does the ten activate these forces?
R. Let them talk between them and decide how they do this, how they can correct this and then it will become clear. How to correctly work with these three factors: envy, lust, and honor.
S. But these three factors influence each and every one in a different way. Maybe one friend is influenced this way and another friend is influenced another way. Should the ten speak about each and every friend and how to bestow to him, how to influence him?
R. No, but nonetheless it could be that sometimes, yes. If this friend is having difficulties and the group is having difficulties, to work with him. But it is all for the benefit of everyone. You just need to work on it more, more quickly, more lively and to quickly reach prayer.
29. S. (50:18) If a person asks to be in adhesion with the Creator in every state, in the best state, in the worst state, what else can he demand?
R. That this adhesion should be as whole as possible, meaning that he connects to all the friends and adjoins them to himself that they are found within his heart, and then with his heart he reaches the Creator and his friends become as angels with which he adheres to the Creator.
30. S. (51:22) If we discover that we are contained in a single thought, what are we supposed to do?
R. It's good for us to be in one thought, what we need to do, simply to ask in that one thought, in that same appeal to the Creator that he should be revealed to us in a more and more and more whole manner. Because by this we will be corrected and become like him. That is our work, return all the way to the Creator.
31. S. (52:30) I had this Insight, this understanding that there are three foundations for a person, of the wicked one and the righteous, but the true foundation is the part of the Creator, if we remove the wicked one and the righteous then it's only the part of the Creator and it's hidden from me?
R. Not completely correct but you can think in such a manner that it will be like this for now.
32. S. (53:14) Is Faith in our work when we feel the importance of the connection between us and we hold on regardless of what's happening, which the intellect might say something in opposition, but we hold on to the connection because that's the goal, even though it doesn't make sense intellectually?
R. Yes correct.
33. S. (54:12) Sorry but in bestowal above reason, I think there's extra bestowal, more bestowal, how do we get this additional bestowal once we have faith above reason?
R. Repeat.
S. I'm asking once there is understanding, faith above reason, I was thinking that maybe you said that the bestowal there is different, there is no more prayer for bestowal, but for extra bestowal, how is this bestowal different than?
R. I don't understand the question. Bestowal is different between what and what?
S. You said that before that once you reach bestowal there is extra bestowal, what is this extra bestowal?
R. Even more so, even to a bigger degree, quite simply.
34. S. (55:41) A question about the prayer, during the lesson we feel such a deficiency towards the materials that we are studying, it awakens questions in us and that is very good, when we finish the lesson, we have a summary and a prayer, it seems as though we are inventing some words that are prayer?
R. That's correct, when you are together, under the influence of the lesson together with me, then you seemingly rise to the faith of above reason and when the lesson ends, you return and descend back to your level and there is a sensation that everything disappears, that nothing from what filled it before exists anymore. And that's how it happens and it will happen again and not just once, it could be many times and later on you will see nonetheless how this begins to receive in different forms and remains within you and you already are beginning to exist at the level of faith above reason, and still you will also fall from that level of faith above reason, and rise again, back to faith above reason.
S. Thank you and we'll hope it will happen soon.
R. Much faster than it will happen to me.
35. S. (57:46) You said that we have to reach prayer as quickly as possible. Should we persuade the Creator all the time that this is what we want?
R. All the time, To ask of the Creator to raise you higher than your intellect to the upper mind the upper intellect. Ask for this all the time and the best thing is for it to be together at least each one when he has an opportunity
S. We actually have to persuade ourselves first before we turn to the Creator?
R. Yes of course you need to talk to him all the time through the center of the group.
36. S. (58:43) About quote sixty-three, it says their faith above reason causes one to feel within reason his enemy, who is the one obstructing thinking from reaching the good? The question is does it mean that when a person goes above reason he can use his reasons simultaneously, at the same time to get to know the evil within him?
R. He needs to use reason and he also needs to ask to be above reason.
37. S. (59:31) I feel that without fear I do not have faith, how can I develop the fear?
R. There are articles by Rabash about this that fear we also receive through the environment.
38. S. (59:58) About quote sixty-four, why can't the wicked one no longer ask questions when I am going above the intellect? Why does this silence him?
R. The wicked cannot ask questions if he does not have justification to ask. It is the force of the Creator that works in the opposite manner in order to help us come closer to the goal with both feet as it is called. That same wicked one has a role, a special role . This is how it works. We need to respect the wicked too, without it we could not reach the goal.
39. S. (01:01:01) Each time it seems to me that we reach the despair of my own forces and then again the ego grows even more, when does a person reach a final despair of his forces? How does he from that point reach the point to bestow?
R. Repeat it again
S. Each time it seems to me that I reach despair of my own forces and then again the ego grows even more. When does a person reach the final point of final despair of his forces and how does he reach from that point to bestow?
R. It comes in parallel, a person reaches a greater and greater despair and then he is more and more ready to be in the intention to bestow.
40. S. (01:01:58) How to cope with despair out of the fact that the Creator's answer, it doesn't seem like the Creator answered that he hears we are turning to him.
R. We think that the true despair is that I cannot have those friends. I have nothing with which to help them. I'm just I, I'm empty. They have vessels and I cannot fill them. I cannot help them. I cannot hold them, from this we need to get the sensation of despair. Try in such a manner to reach a connection between you. You will see just how nice it is and how much it advances you. Is that clear? Meeting both the attainment of the goal and attainment of despair all needs to be up on the Ten.
41. S. (01:03:23) Does a person feel faith above reason as a force that is revealed within his heart?
R. Yes of course, where else could it be revealed? Only in the heart, the force of faith above reason, is the second force in nature, well I would say it's the first force of the Creator, the force of bestowal, the force of love, the true force that exists. The force of reception exists only in order that upon that we would reveal the force of bestowal.
42. S. ( 01:04:25) In the previous excerpt, it said that we need to increase our faith in the Creator, how can we raise, elevate our faith in the Creator? Is this something that we can do or do or is it something we get from above.
R. We receive everything from above and thus we need the smallest of each appeal to turn to the Creator. More correctly we need to be constantly connected to the Creator, tied to the Creator and all the time to see with what I am turning to Him right now.
43. S. (01:05:47) We learned that when we take the decision to walk on the right path, the path of bestowal, there is an opposing force that prevents us from advancing. My question is what is the meaning of this decision that a person puts all of his enthusiasm into it and his force in order to overcome the wicked within him.
R. Meaning that he wants to rise above his egoistic beastly nature. It is the degree of beast, the degree of animate and he wants to reach the degree of speaking, man, similar to the Creator and this is what we need to do. This that we operate within our will to receive it only says that we operate on the degree of animate and that we want to rise above reason in bestowal in identification with the Creator that brings us to the degree of man similar to The Creator to the degree of speaking. That is it, thus we need to speak with the Creator
44. S. (01:07:54 ) Is there a meaning to the fact that one time the Kabbalists write to us to have faith above reason and other times just above reason?
R. Without the word faith?
S. Yes
R. That's not important.
S. In our work faith above reason is something that is spiritual already.
R. Yes
S In our work we use this word a lot, we say that I did this work, I did some action above reason. Is that ok, even though I don't feel it?
R. Whatever you feel or do not feel I cannot say but above reason it is already a spiritual degree.
45. S. (01:08:56) You said that we have to be constantly be in a dialogue with the Creator all day long, every time I try to be in the dialogue with the Creator I remember that there is not dialogue with the Creator there is only a dialogue with the Creator through the Ten and I do not know how to do that and I end up not being in the dialogue at all so how do we do it?
R. Try, search, speak, ask him to show you this, overall you need to build this structure, this form what is it called that you are connecting to the Creator through the ten. There is some mechanism here, some system of connection between you that you want to be in connection with the Creator. Through the same points of connection you enter in connection, communication with the Creator. and you want to remain in that all the time
S. How is it possible to ask the Creator for something well which is seemingly for me. Let's say I do not have the strength, I want to invest in the group more, it is as if I want it for me but through the Ten to the Creator. I don't understand how to focus it through the Ten to the Creator, it's been a long time already. The Creator is also not grasped, not perceived without the Ten. no grass or proceed without the Ten. How can you describe Him without the Ten?
R. I don't describe Him.
S. That is the thing I don't understand.
R Because all in all, only if you incorporate into Ten and within the Ten you depict this force that appears in the entire Ten together and then you are also adhered to that.
S. What is the benefit from a prayer for the despair if we can only pray out of this despair that we cannot do it yourself so what is the benefit of the prayer from?
R. Even though you do not want to pray I advise you to pray like a little child that is begging his mother and father and he sees that he doesn't really want it, he just wants attention or something but not that he has a true desire, You see that nonetheless, he wants, and he comes again and again. We see such appeals and ultimately he receives something. This is how we also need to be to words the Creator with each and every desire even though it is not ripe we need to turn to Him
S. Why does He accept them? He knows I'm lying; I know I am lying. Why would I give it to me? Why would He accept it?
R. It is as he gave you, which is still not a complete desire, but He gave it to you and with this incomplete desire that he gave you, with that, you turn to Him
46. S. (01:12:23) These seem like simple things but it is very deep actually, can we say that the intellect is like a boundary? If the intellect serves my desire we get reason at the end and if the intellect engages in the desire of the friend or the Creator is that the same thing? Is that how we get to faith?
R. I do not understand what you were saying maybe you should say the in Russian
S. [ no translation]
R. Correct
47. S. (01:13:44) The question is that the wicked ones' internal questions or maybe the questions we bring are also questions of the wicked one?
I will say it again, is the question of the wicked one considered an inner question, or it could be the questions that we ask here, now are also the questions of the wicked one?
R. It is possible that it is but what does it matter? The most important thing is that we are in contact with the Creator. Turning to Him and whatever kinds of questions, it is not important. That is what there is. In truth these questions come to us from the Creator and we want to reach out to Him with all of these questions. Let's reach out to Him and whatever will be will be. Most importantly is to constantly be aimed at the Creator at all situations
S. Most of the time I do not have any questions, I would like to see us on the screen with these intentions but the Creator does not give me any questions to bring but lately I had a few questions so that is why I would like to know why he gave me a few questions lately even though usually I do not have any questions to bring?
R. I do not know. I do not know . It seems that because you are talking among each other and laughing in between each other. That is why you are not so worthy of all of the Creator to bring questions to your heart. You need to be a little bit more serious and prepared to receive questions from the Creator
48. S. (01:16:33) What is the expression in group, the despair of the Ten?
R. Again
S. What is the expression in group, the despair of the Ten?
R. Despair of the Ten, that can be only for a short time from the general sorrow that comes to a Ten. The Ten needs to very quickly arrange itself with her inner force and to see how it can be overcome. That is good, it really connects the Ten and it pushes it forward.
S. What is the connection between personal ten and the Tens despair?
R. Personal despair is individual, it is nothing. Despair of the Ten, it is already a clear sign that it is in order to advance everyone towards the goal.
49. S. (01:18:15) Each time that I overcome, and I go above reason does that mean that I'm in spirituality?
R. Yes
50. S. (01:18:32) A technical question during the lesson we are not in our usual permanent Ten, the question is do we need to apply what you say in this group or in our Ten?
R. This and that you can do. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter where I sit and who I connect with. Which is everyone. All of us want to be connected together to one Creator equal to everyone.
51. S. (01:19:21) You said that the true despair is when I cannot help the friends, when we get to the lesson or the end of the week to the Congress, in what can I help the friend? What should each one bring with him?
R. One should bring their hearts willing to help and everything to enable the connection in the convention to be the highest that we can achieve for the time being.
S. How do I activate the help of a friend?
R. By wanting to connect everyone, there's nothing more than that I can say but to constantly hold that in your heart so that your heart will be a place of all the hearts of all the friends in the world Bnei Baruch.
52. S. (01:20:42) The question about the sinners, who are they really, who and what, that is the question of the wicked. Does the righteous have such a question as well?
R. A righteous one has only one question; is there an opportunity to bestow more upon the Creator more than I have attained. That is why he is always asking that question and he is always searching for an answer for it, that the answer becomes a question again. By that he advances and increases his force of adhesion.
53. S. (01:22:01) Where is the boundary of the border in our work in the connection of the ten raising the prayer in joy and good deeds and giving and giving an impression to the friends and maybe there is a joy and proves lack of seriousness?
R. I cannot answer that, you need to feel it, you need to answer it yourselves.
S. Meaning something in the work?
R. I don't know anything, you need to feel yourselves where it is.
54. S. (01:22:51) In work with a friends when we come to work with the Creator and we take the friends with us, there are friends with whom there is some resistance but they look like a serious force that advances to the Creator and their friends that do not have any resistance, there is something softer, what is the work with these and those or it doesn't matter?
R. That is according to the different cases.
55. S. (01:23:32) If a friend is sitting here in a lesson like a log and does not get anything, we learned that he has to be grateful, so he is grateful to the Creator and he feels like a log grateful to the Creator this warmth inside?
R. Very good, very good.
S. Is there anything to do beyond that?
R. Try gently with great sensitivity, but it doesn't matter. If he arrives and prefers to be with you with all of his strength and it doesn't reveal any more than what he has, this is what the Creator gives him. It is possible that he is no less than the others and each and every one discovers his necessity towards the goal according to what he gets from the Creator and he discovers it on such a level, on such intensity and then he participates in that to the Creator. Even more so and to that I understand him, I was also in such states.
56. S. (01:25:04) When the Creator is concealed from a person does it mean that he is necessarily wicked?
R. When the Creator is concealed from a person he must be wicked.
S. What is his work then?
Excerpt #65 (01:28:34) “A Person Should Accept Faith Above Reason Even Though...” Twice.
57. R. (01:30:57) This is the state that we can arrive at any moment and remaining it as much as we like. This is a very respected state and it brings us to spirituality higher and higher. If we receive every state that we have that we received from the Creator according to a desire and according to the choice of the Creator and from that we do not want anything for ourselves. If the Creator and certainly There Is None Else Besides Him, so we receive this from Him this state even though we do not need more than that. Only when we accept it, that we hold on to it, that it comes from the Creator He gives it to us. No matter what, we are satisfied from this state and in such a way we later on reach the Tzimtzum and all of the degrees of bestowal in action. Again I will repeat it; “A person should accept faith above reason even though he has no feeling and no excitement about taking upon himself the burden upon himself the burden of the Kingdom of Heaven that we come from above from the Creator. Nevertheless he should agree with that state and say that this must be the will of the Creator that he will work and serve Him in this lowliness as he now feels. So he does not mind what elation he feels about his faith. Because about himself meaning his own benefit he has no concern, but only about the benefit of the Creator. If He wants him to remain in that state he accepts this unconditionally and this is called unconditional surrender.” In other words there is no problem to be in any state if I say to myself that this is what I received from the Creator and most certainly There is None Else Besides Him, that it is from the Creator. And I can remain in that forever for good, already this state becomes spiritual.
58. S. (01:34:15) I thought that working in envy, lust and honor takes a person out of this world, or is this simply a different state in the work?
R. Working in envy, honor and lust takes a person out of the world, yes. If one is capable and able to rise himself above his ego and that is expressed in envy, honor, and lust.
S. Can you combine the work here described with envy, lust, and honor and how?
R. Try it.
S. I tried and I failed.
R. You failed, so we’ll do it together, we’ll do such exercises.
S. It turns out that a person needs to be ready and willing to remain in the state of Lo Lishma from now until forever?
R. Then it becomes a state of Lishma, then it becomes a state of Lishma. if I agree to work and be in the same state that I'm in now forever, because I received it from the Creator and I agree to receive it from Him everything that He puts up on me that is already a state of Lishma.
59. R. (01) We are in this transitions between one and another that is why it is good to ask everyone in to see the variations that we have
60. S. () So if I agree with everything so why do I need to pray for?
R. In order to agree with every
S. I already agree with everything, I try to be in that state.
R. No, no, no, no, the prayer is reflects what you truly want that you want to reveal everything that the Creator puts up on you, in all of your mind and heart and everything, and you want to feel that it all comes from him and doesn't matter in what way you want to be satisfied by being in contact with the Creator. And what emotions awaken in you, pleasant or unpleasant, that does not matter most importantly is to receive from the host, the Creator, that is what you pray for, so spirituality that is spirituality. This is a state that you go through the Machsom, the restriction and then you advance onwards.
S. That is how I relate how to the reality that comes from the Creator?
R. Then yes and then you begin to receive from the Creator and negative reality, and you will have to overcome it and degree because it is negative in comparison to your will to receive, and you want to be above it in your will to give and that is how you will advance.
S. Where do I need the ten here?
R. Without the ten you will not be able to receive from the Creator all the collection of all the conditions and all the forces of overcoming. The ten is not a ten, the ten are your vessels.
S. Can you help me how to build this and how to turn to the Creator?
R. No you have to constantly think about this, even if will be confused and all kinds of things, by being confused, by searching, and you will not know how to come out of that state, and that is searching, that is the way of the prayer.
61. S. () We are supposed to be the last generation, a conduit to the world at least that’s the way see it we have not reached that status of being a conduit so how can I agree with that state?
R. I do not know exactly what you are asking.
S. We should be disseminating the wisdom of Kabbalah, at some point all the people in the world who come to us and asked to show us the way, we should be Yashar El, straight to the Creator we should be light to the nations, all those words.
R. I do not know in what way that is expressed, it is possible it expressed that you speak to everyone and we hear a few thousands of people and that is it and that's enough.
S. And how from that do you finally reach?
R. That is not our concern that comes from the Creator.
S. That's my point is if it comes from the Creator, we should reach the end of correction, and we’re not even close, we’re not even starting, how can I agree with this state?
R. Where do you think that this is a state?
S. Because of the end of correction I read, what the Kabbalists write, that we will be a place that later everyone will come to and say, show us the way, how to reach the general correction.
R. So what so suddenly you come to Bnei Baruch Israel, to this beautiful building of ours that will have aircraft and trains and ships, and everyone come to us and to the building and ask us, how do you imagine this?
S. I did not say come physically to us, but according to what understand there should be a general movement of recognition, awareness of the goal of reality beyond this life.
R. This happens in spirituality.
S. I'm saying that not only are we not growing but we have fewer people that are coming to us or approaching or thinking that our opinion is something that needs to be contained.
R. To the extent that we come closer to the truth this is how it happens.
S. But at some point there should be change otherwise how will we reach the realization of the purpose of creation.
R. I do not know that depends on you.
S. I understand so how can I agree with the state the Creator is sending if we should be blowing up the iron curtains as Baal HaSulam writes?
R. I understand that shattering this iron wall that is between us to the spiritual world, for that we need not a lot of people and that should be enough for the Creator to be inspired by them if you can if you want to put it that way and maybe get an impression from them, maybe that is more accurate, to do the work that is considered the work of the Messiah, and we in in that we need to do what we can. What did Baal HaSulam write a hundred years ago that we are in the generation of the Messiah.
S. That is exactly it if we are in this generation, how can I be satisfied reaching spirituality with my ten and the whole world will continue on this way, 100 years ago maybe it was.
R. How is our state different than what it was one hundred years ago in the time of Baal HaSulam, when he wrote that we are in the last generation, in the generation of the Messiah, what did he write here?
S, That is exactly it, he wrote for us that we cannot sit quietly until.
R. He wrote it also for his time, he wrote that we are in the generation of the Messiah and not that it will happen in 100 years, and that is why we need to publish books and disseminate, he wrote all of that he said that the upper forces are already ready for it, to do the action of the end of correction, and we need in here in our state to do a few more actions, small preparations, in addition, and we will do it. Also the convection and another convention, and that’s something else, that’s how we move forward, we are advancing, and the fact that people are leaving and that new students are barely joining us, there's nothing to do about it. To the extent that we will come closer, to transition from Lo Lishma to Lishma, then of course less and less people will feel the importance of this state, nor will they want it, that is clear to us. Even such people, such friends of ours that we never thought, that could suddenly leave, run away, jump off the wagon, there is nothing you can do. I want to arrive at a state of correction, of correction of the group, even if it's going to be small, it does not matter, but as long as it will be realized.
S. What you're saying is not agree with the current state, so I do not understand how to agree with this current state, I see it in dissemination, you see it in the small group. I don't feel it, I do not understand this concept of agreeing with the current state, I cannot grasp it.
R. So I'll give you an example just like Baal HaSulam wrote in his time.
S. He also disagreed; he did something in order to make something.
R. No he says we are at a time of the final correction; our generation is already in such a state. I understand you, and I cannot say that I don't agree with you, but I also agree with what we've received from above, that it comes to us and this is what's happening. And this is what our friends who are leaving, we need to see what's happening to them. Why, in what forms are they going through and so on. So calculate.
62. S. () Question about the prayer, if let's say from work in the ten different feelings it is called pain that we cannot connect to one man and one heart as you described before that we feel this this pour that we cannot help the friends, this prayer, how do you add a intention to this prayer, what is the difference between such a prayer and Lishma?
R. Lishma is considered that we are willing to accept the dominance of the Creator in everything there is and that we want to include ourselves in it with all of our might and that we don't ask about the past, the present the future, in respect to us but only in respect to all of reality, all of the Kli, how can we connect them to the same source. That's it. The prayer for Lishma is a very concrete and very short precise prayer, you want to connect everyone to the Creator. This pattern, the structure of Adam HaRishon before the sin. That's what we want to return to.
S. Even the prayer you just described, is it the result of disagreement with the Creator that you wish to connect everyone?
R. I don't understand.
S. Even the prayer you describe now the desire to connect Bnei Baruch to all of humanity, this is for her sake this is also a result of disagreement in the ability to be together with the Creator?
R. Lack of agreement on our side?
S. Yes I have my current state.
R. That's what we need to work on, the inner group of Bnei Baruch needs to be prepared and willing to know that we need to pray and reach the stage. That we all agree, and we all are inclined to connect between us and the Creator I don't understand this claim really, okay I already don't know what to do here.
63. S. (01:49:47) The state of unconditional surrender. How is that related to the state of joy? Because there's a feeling that it's as if it's a contradiction to one another?
R. Why the fact that I agree with everything that I receive everything from the Creator that doesn't bring me joy. Who is correct in the reading of the action than the states? Who better understands what he gives me? The Creator or myself, I go through some state and the state certainly comes to me from the Creator. How can it be that I am a degree of truth and a degree of righteous and I don't agree even for a single moment with what I experienced? That isn't considered that I justify the Creator that I understand him and that I am with him in connection. Think about it.
S. Meaning if there is no joy then we did not achieve this unconditional surrender?
R. Right, yes.
64. S. (01:51:47) It is written the whole world was created for the fear of Heaven. You said that we find the fear of Heaven by connecting in the ten and I want to testify the truth of what you say. Last night we connected in our ten to create a gift for the world Kli at the convention and today the state is that it's very easy for me to justify the Creator after we were given There is None Else Besides Him, so thank you Rav to be gathered here for Bnei Baruch.
R. We need to connect in a ten in order for us to make it easier for us to annul ourselves towards the Creator, alone it is impossible. But when I annul myself towards one friend, another and third or fourth, that is how I see that it's not so bad if I annul, and then I can annul in a general way towards the general group, all of it and towards the Creator. If we will make an effort to come closer to that and to do that, we will see to the extent that we enter a state that is entirely good because we will begin to feel the upper force that comes to us from the Creator, and it will be included.
65. S. (01:53:55) Earlier you said I don't know if I heard you say, you said that you have to come to study and not ask for anything and then seemingly you will be in Lishma, did I hear it correctly, not to ask for anything?
R. Yes, let's say so.
S. That's my mistake that I'm coming here and I want to swallow the world?
R. No the fact that you come and you want to swallow the whole world you're coming with the Creator's desire and that I created the evil inclination.
S. How would I come to Lishma if my desires constantly come here to swallow, swallow, swallow what you're saying, is come here and ask for nothing, does that sound normal to you?
R. You're not asking for anything, of course you are and you'll ask even more only you'll ask for different things. You'll ask for strength to overcome, you'll ask for the force of faith above reason, you will ask for the force of connection with everyone, you will ask for a large Kli in which you will reveal the Creator in full. You understand what you are going towards a much greater will to receive than you had before.
S. In my head I have a final goal, I want to cross the barrier and want to get to the Creator and swallow Him. what you said earlier, come clean, not thoughts, just take nothing upon yourself just come and connect with the friends. Why can I quit the friends, you're telling me I want nothing so why am I even coming to connect with the friends, it doesn't settle in my mind?
R. Because it is not possible to reach perception of the Creator and adhesion to the Creator alone but it needs to be a ten and needs to be a ten and not nine and not eleven, read what's written about it. What do you want from me, it's not me who created the will to receive that only in a way and only while it's connected to everyone and all of the ten, it reaches completion and wholeness.
S. Meaning with what thought should I come here this morning to be the cleanest and purest, what thought?
R. To be in inclusion with the friends.
S. And then I attain Lishma?
R. Then you attain the Kli and the desire that is connected with the others’ desire even though you don’t feel it but inside it takes place and then in that Mutual Kli you start discovering the force of the bestowal.
S. A good answer thank you.
66. S. (01:57:18) Is it correct that it's easier for women to pray because it's part of their nature and maybe that's why their prayer needs to include a request for the prayer of the men and then it will be more correct above nature?
R. Yes, the prayer of women is a very important one and they have to do everything we are learning about with the prayers of men and certainly they will succeed even more than that. The important thing is to activate the prayer.
S. Should we include in our prayer a prayer for the success of the men in their prayer meaning to want for them to want to have that ability?
R. That too, yes that's correct and thank you in advance.
67. S. (01:58:32) Excerpt number 64, I'll just read a small part of it, that's why when He answers to the wicked that he's going above reason which is against the intellect, the intellect can no longer ask any questions because all the questions are within reason, where is above the intellect there is no place for questions, so my question is on the path of the Creator there is no stagnation because we are not asking or all the questions become knowledge?
R. All the questions become knowledge you are right, if you are working correctly you receive knowledge, knowing.
68. S. (01:59:49) Question about subjugation: which state is preferable, I'm better off dead or a state of subjugation and does one state lead to the other?
R. There's nothing higher than surrender, surrendering in subjugation it's a testimony to your place to where you are and who you're connected to. Therefore surrendering before the Creator gives you the ability to receive everything from Him.
69. S. (02:00:32) We are learning that all the states in the heart and the brain we receive from the Creator so we would work for Him, but the time that you spend in each state could be a day or a month. Why is he giving us such time frames and the different states?
R. I don't know, it's so that you would feel your state, everything is measured and everything is precise and sometimes you don't understand it because you still don't know yourself.
S. Those are his calculations, we can't understand them?
R. Yes
70. S. (02:01:38) Earlier you said that we have to reach a state of despair, to feel that we are unable to fill the deficiency of the friend and now we say that annulment is the highest point in our work. Maybe through this annulment we can later, the question is it's difficult for me to even feel the deficiency of a friend. I have all kinds of complaints, on one hand it's good it's good because that's where my despair is coming from, I can feel the friends and then in faith above reason I can somehow reach an even greater despair that I would want to feel the friends and until then I am deep in my complaints. I can't stand the friends how they behave, but on the other hand I saw a benefit in it and at least I have this negative connection between us and I tried to pray, to ask so I will be able to see it differently but it's difficult it's difficult to reach?
R. I understand. I too was in such states where you are unable to stand the friends and you cannot justify them in any way shape or form or be connected to them at all in other states and this can last a long time until we will finally begin to feel to adhere, that there is such a phenomenon like faith above reason. They will begin to understand that inside of us internally and then we will begin to approach the friends and approach the faith above reason and then approach correction but not before that. Understand it simply, we are the only group that in principle is even dealing with this question. This is the greatest in the sharpest and highest question regarding the connection of a person with the Creator and with nature, that is what we are dealing with today. The fact that many friends don't get it or they're walking away from it, there's nothing that you can do, of course you can't let them go, we have to explain it but in principle it's natural that they're leaving. They don't understand what we're doing and what do we need all this, because this is the most internal point in the heart and that takes part in the spiritual work. That's how it is.
71. S. (02:05:23) I would like to clarify some kind of understanding, without resisting motion you cannot stabilize any direction similarly without resistance to the spiritual path you cannot determine the goal. This resistance doesn't only set the goal, but it also always sharpens our focus towards the goal, is that correct?
R. Yes this is true.
72. S. (02:05:56) About subjugation, is subjugation agreement with that same difficult state that I'm in?
R. Yes but why does it need to be difficult?
S. I cannot tolerate this state only in retrospect I understand that it comes from the Creator and that's how it is every time?
R. Okay so already you have some experience, how to go through such states.
73. S. (02:06:46) The state of unconditional subjugation like the teacher writes here, is that also what the teacher writes about in Shamati about the matter of Katnut, smallness?
R. Yes.
S. The smallest of adhesion to internality is that the same thing? Another question, agreeing with the state and not wanting anything beyond the Arvut towards the friend that I want to lead them to the end of correction so I want greatness for them. These are two different states that I divide myself or to the Creator?
R. Don't worry it all combines nicely together because you're going through restriction and you don't want anything for yourself and later you are already released, you are free.
74. S. (02:08:00) After a person agrees with a state that he's in even if he has no feeling, what is the next state that he should do, what is the correct response that needs to be following that?
R. Nothing let him stay in that if he doesn't want anything for himself let him stay in it. And later what will happen with him will happen, he'll have to discover that. The important thing is to agree with the fact that I have nothing.
75. S. (02:08:48) Regarding joy in the state of surrender, is there joy like when I get something tasty like a piece of cake so it's a great plus for me, and there's also joy that I'm being hit and then I'm no longer being hit, that's also happiness. This happiness from our work from the surrender, is it felt as something different from like being given cake?
R. That's not happiness gladness that you receive now, rather the question is who are you in contact with? So I don't know how to compare it to a cake or to little kids that stopped beating you up.
S. The question is as follows, there is pure joy that there's nothing beyond that and then there's joy that's integrated with pain that I'm partially happy only.
R. Here you are happy for others not yourself you're glad that you are now becoming beneficial towards the world and towards others and towards the Creator, this is the gladness, if you wish to already determine what it is for real.
S. It needs to be pure joy like with Baal HaSulam where it's written somewhere I can’t remember where that all the problems and the great troubles I go in a state of joy and I feel myself.
R. That’s in the prophecy of the Baal HaSulam.
S. The state needs to be so constant or is it this joy that comes and goes?
R. I don't even know what to tell you. I think that this gladness is a result of giving contentment to the Creator that's the highest gladness. When you have nothing, and you need nothing.
S. [missing]
R. What do you mean it's not the sorrow. I give happiness to the Creator, I give contentment, I fill Him on the contrary, all of it is felt not by fulfilling some depth of sorrow and I fill them, no no, that’s something else completely. Let’s wait and we’ll start to feel it.
76. S. (02:12:23) We must do everything for the Creator. The question is what are the benefits the Creator receives from us?
R. When we give Him the opportunity the ability to fill our vessels with that light of Ein Sof with Him Himself and He Himself will fill us will clothe in us and we will be as one with Him. We will be as the Nukva, and He will be as the male.
77. S. (02:13:54) Sometimes the Creator gives such complex states that it's not really clear if it's a gift, it's not really clear what to ask for. For example things that happen between friends, in such cases how should we care for the benefit of the Creator?
R. Simply think about Him what can be done in those states for His sake.
78. S. (02:14:31) In the work of the Kabbalist if it's constantly in darkness, if all of the work of the Kabbalist is constantly in darkness is the light revealed in the transition to Lishma? Is it always from darkness to light?
R. Yes of course, beautiful.
79. S. (02:15:05) I wanted to slightly touch upon envy, honor, and lust. What I understand today is that in my ten there are friends that I envy, almost all of them. I envy them because they have qualities that I don't have and these qualities they help them advance towards connection, on the other hand when you're already on this wave and you're giving an example and then this honor that you received it becomes one that with it you want to start pulling the friends, so I have a questions about lust. What is lust? It’s to find the Creator?
R. Yes, finding the Creator more than that, we should create such a state that we will force Him to reveal in us. This is specifically the state we wish to find, to awaken, to generate from within us out of the desires and intentions, this state has to be so powerful that will simply force Him to be revealed in us to fill us. To that extent the extent of this pressure He will have joy and happiness from His revelation in us. That's what we should do. Therefore all the possible states that we're going through we should appreciate them from the point of the search where else we can come closer and understand, grasp, conquer, and bring Him to be revealed in us, and this gives Him pleasure, it's like a courting period of a guy after a girl. It's called dancing when the men, you know, dancing of the bride there's this concept from the Bible, that expresses all of the yearning, all the joy from coming closer from the expectation for the future. Imagine that you are in this preliminary state, the head of the state of coming closer.
80. S. (02:18:35) I'd like to awaken yearning for the Creator and everyone's hearts, and I'd like to see my ten as a guide for all of humanity but my reason tells me that I am distant from it. So how can I stabilize this contradiction? Do I need to hold it in faith above reason and pray?
R. Exactly, hold on to faith above reason and pray,. and even though we will become wise and aware and understanding we will reach a state where we see that we are not doing anything but rather everything the Creator does, He arranges for us all of that final point at the end of correction.
81. S. (02:19:31) I wanted to go back to a state regarding the person who agrees to everything. From what I understand he's in the right line in a state of perfection of wholeness, so what motivation is there to do something, to move, to do more, because maybe there's the left line that needs to awaken during the day?
R. First of all it's a must, 30 minutes a day Baal HaSulam writes in one of those letters that you have to be on the left line, but I think nothing that we will receive those negative awakenings as well and other than that we will feel additional flaws in our work in our connections. We have a few stages to go before we enter the process and we reach the end of correction, everything is still ahead of us. The path is, it's not that it's long, but it's very interesting it’s very interesting, it's spinning us in all kinds of directions and we'll begin to feel how we are connected between us in such forms and other forms and all the options so it'll be interesting and it will be beautiful.
S. We don't need to worry the Creator won't leave us?
R. No, the Creator's not going to leave us.
82. S. (02:21:43) You already made us get used to direct answers. Rav please tell us the final correction on the one hand it's far away, it’s distant, on the other hand it's walking distance in the state of inversion.
R. Yes yes.
83. S. (02:22:17) May I clarify the question, that the point for deficiency there needs to be a gap between two states, on the other hand if I accept this state above the gap.
R. I didn't quite understand the question.
S. You said before that we need to agree with what we receive as a state that comes from the Creator.
R. Yes.
S. On the other hand we need to yearn for something, we need some desire to reach something, we need to have a deficiency.
R. No, the fact that I'm receiving from the Creator that's certain. Now the question of whether or not I'm agreeing with it, that depends on me and to arrange myself in such a way that what's the goal behind it.
S. But if I accept the state where is the deficiency, what do I yearn for?
R. No, by the fact that I'm receiving from the Creator does not mean that I agree with what I received. Maybe I received a place of work, a place for overcoming a place for connection and you have to do something here. Understand it's not receiving from the Creator it's not like I receive it all and I have nothing else to do we, receive everything from the Creator.
84. S. (02:23:50) In the matter of scrutinies of prayer, there's a prayer that we asked to be in adhesion with the Creator and regardless of what happens, we want to hold none else besides Him, the good that does good for his own well-being so that we won’t be wicked. In this prayer, if I understand correctly that we ask to change our perception of reality. There is a state that we ask for the connection in the ten for the friends, for the success of the convention, for the success of dissemination, and there we are asking for changing reality. The question is to follow all the scrutinies we have here. How do we stabilize, how do we place these two types of prayers and what do we need to ask in the convention?
R. We have two more days in addition to today, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday before we are starting the Congress, and I hope that he will decide in what form, we’ll do it today and maybe also tomorrow we’ll have such exercises, but we need to understand what's the style that the congress should take. You can change it at the last moment because at the end of the day it's you and me who are making this congress between us I have no problem to change it. All the better if the direction is more for Lishma I'm ready I'm just checking myself, do we go more or less as he writes here, Baal HaSulam or Rabash, neither more nor less there's such an article.
S. The article of The Arvut?
R. Yes but I'm ready and willing for all the changes. It should be a bit more aimed towards the goal and it will be accepted so let's get closer to tomorrow’s lesson and we'll do it the way we did it today, perhaps I’m not sure, sometimes they plan such things and everything that's corrupted in the times, time gets wasted so let's think how we nevertheless have to have the congress, talk amongst yourself and decide I just want one thing – all of us together and above reason. These are the two things we need and I think that it's all right before us.
85. S. (02:27:24) A question about this state of this flirt and dance with the Creator, you hold on you don't let go. This state that you told on and don't let go does that mean that I add in my request, or do I add connection in more parts, what exactly is the state of holding on?
R. I don't know how to respond. I think you also understand a little bit about it so continue. Continue and everything will work out.