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Daily Lesson (Morning) December 5, 2024.

Part 1: Baal HaSulam. Introduction to the Preface to the Wisdom of Kabbalah.

Reader: We are reading in the writings of Baal HaSulam, The Introduction to the Preface of the Wisdom of Kabbalah. You can find the study material on kabbalah.info and in the Arvut system. You can also find the study material in the Arvut system and send live questions. If you have questions in the study hall, please stand up and hold the mic close to your mouth and speak loudly and clearly.

Item 3.

Reading: (00:38) The answer to this is written in The Tree of Life—“to bring to light the perfection of His deeds” (The Tree of Life, Branch 1). Yet, we must understand how it is possible that incomplete operations would stem from a complete Operator, to the point that they would require completion through an act in this world.

The thing is that we should distinguish between light and Kli [vessel] in the souls. The essence of the souls that were created is the Kli in them, and all the bounty that He had planned to impart them with and delight them is the light in them. This is because since He had planned to delight them, He necessarily made them as a desire to receive His pleasure, since the pleasure and delight increase according to the measure of desire to receive the abundance.

Know that that will to receive is the very self of the soul with regard to the generation and elicitation existence from absence. This is considered the Kli of the soul, while the joy and the abundance are considered the light of the soul, extending existence from existence from His self.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (02:57) He says, you know that the will to receive is the essence of the soul and the existence and the elicitation from existence from existence. What kind of the will to receive does he talk about?

M. Laitman: The will to receive which the created being feels exists within him and which he wants to fill up.

Student: I feel like there are two desires to receive. He talks about the desire to receive right now and what was there when the Creator wanted us to receive all the abundance.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: What do we need to understand? That we need to reach that will to receive. What is that will to receive exactly?

M. Laitman: We need to develop the will to receive that's within us, that we feel, so that it yearns only for the Creator and to try to adhere to Him and to receive from Him, to draw from Him the light, the inner force of the Creator for us to receive it, and by that we adhere to the Creator. That's our work.

Student: What do we need exactly to reach this will to receive, to draw this light, constantly to feel this abundance between us?

M. Laitman: This light is present. We just don't feel it with our senses we were born with. We need to develop another special sense called the will to receive with respect to that light.

Student: How do we develop this sixth sense because we were born with our basic five senses and we wish to acquire this special sense. How do we acquire it?

M. Laitman: By making an effort to face the Creator, to seek Him out, magnify Him, bring Him closer. So, we get closer.

Student: How do we grow the Creator all the time? We spoke about His greatness yesterday as well. How do we see His greatness between us?

M. Laitman: That is the effort a person has to make towards himself, to always be thinking about the Creator, imagining, seeing that he's always under the Creator's governance, control, and so he will see how his connection to the Creator keeps growing. Also, there's the matter of dissemination. The more the people of the world want to emerge from under the rule of concealment, that'll help each and every one of them and all of them together in discovering the Creator.

Student: Dissemination today is not done properly today or what?

M. Laitman: I don't know, apparently not. If we succeeded in dissemination, then we would find that the Creator is present and we exist within Him and that's our entire lives.

Student: You said once that dissemination has to come from the connection between us. Correct dissemination, true dissemination has to come from the connection between us, first of all.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Yesterday we also said, how do we not wait for the date of the congress? That as far as we're concerned, not to go around it but go directly toward this goal. We want to get there, I don't know when, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, how do we do this? How do we do this? They say prayer. Okay, the prayer has to come from a true deficiency, from within. How do we get to this true deficiency so we would feel that's it, this is what we need, there's nothing else.

M. Laitman: That's done through the mutual bestowal, mutual influence that can exist between us, as we show this to each and every one, within our program, within our framework. So that each of us is impressed by the friend, by the friends, by everyone. Such that over a relatively short period of time, we will be able to discover within us a truly strong desire for the revelation of the Creator.

Item 4.

Reading: (10:04) Explanation: Creation refers to appearance of something that did not exist before. This is considered existence from absence. Yet, how do we picture something that is not included in Him, since He is almighty and includes all of them together? Also, one does not give what is not in Him.

As we have said, the whole creation that He created is only the Kelim [plural for Kli] of the souls, which is the will to receive. This is clear, since He necessarily does not have a will to receive, as from whom would He receive? Hence, this is truly a new creation, not a trace of which existed previously, and is therefore considered existence from absence.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (11:31) The will to receive is something that exists or is just a deficiency in the light?

M. Laitman: What's the difference?

Student: If it's only a deficiency for the light, then all of its qualities is not His qualities. The fact that he's missing the light is not really true and if it does exist, it's His qualities.

M. Laitman: The Creator created the will to receive which is the entirety of the created being's nature and we need to discover Him in all cases, all events to complete Him.

Student: Does the will to receive have any reality without light?

M. Laitman: No. It doesn't exist without light. If there is no light, there is nothing of the created being including the will, the desire.

Student: We don't say it this way but you can say that whatever exists in the will to receive is the fact that he wants to receive, it's a quality that wants to receive the light, that's what's in there?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: We also learn that in the will to receive there are all kinds of degrees, levels. That's because there are degrees and levels in the light, not in the will to receive. Is this true to say it like that?

M. Laitman: Yes. Yes.

Student: What is this world of ours? We feel that it exists, objects, people.

M. Laitman: There still exists a will to receive on such a degree where it doesn't discover itself. Rather, rather, how to put it? Something of its actions. Our world is the revelation of the acts of the will to receive.

Student: The actions of the will to receive meaning the actions of the deficiency for the light? Can we say it like that, or shouldn't we go there?

M. Laitman: No, no, that cannot be said because it's not revealed to people and they don't accept it if you put it like that.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (14:25) In the beginning of item three, it says the Creator wanted to bring to light the perfection of His deeds. He quotes it from the Tree of Life His deeds, His names, His appellations, what does that mean?

M. Laitman: That the Creator wishes to be revealed before the created beings.

Student: Because he says the answer to this is why did He create the world, restriction after restriction, down to this murky world. Then he says that He wanted to bring to light the perfection of His deeds. The Creator works the opposite. He makes restrictions.

M. Laitman: He made restrictions and later, He reveals this reality to the created being in an inverted way.

Student: Theoretically, if someone wants to bring to light the perfection of His deeds, He wants to give to the created beings, He needs to remove the restrictions, to give them but here it's like the opposite.

M. Laitman: No. He needs to teach them how to discover Him, how to understand Him and that's why it was made this way.

Student: How is the restriction teaching us?

M. Laitman: We feel the restrictions and we want to solve them, to reveal them and so we advance.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (16:02) It says here that there is such a thing called light.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: That there is no will to receive in it at all.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Creation is entirely the will to receive so how should we relate to such a thing where we have none of its qualities?

M. Laitman: Well, we don't have it. What can you do? The Creator, who shaped, designed everything, made everything, thought that this is what we need to feel and how we need to evolve, as only this way, can we reach the complete, full will to receive, towards which He'll be able to open up the whole of creation.

Student: Yes, but our perception is from the will to receive.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: When He says, no, that what you're getting is pleasure, it is light, and in its sources there's none of the qualities of the will to receive, nothing.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So it's not something you can perceive.

M. Laitman: Yes, but we perceive it by way of not wanting to use it. We don't want to use the will to receive and then we begin to come closer to Him from the side of bestowal, becoming equal to Him.

Student: Right, but when we wish to resemble Him, it's also a sort of kind of pleasure to resemble Him.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: We are made of the matter, the substance of the will to receive. He only brings pleasure. What's the difference between the pleasure of resembling Him and any other pleasure?

M. Laitman: Resembling the Creator is a choice for the created being. When we decide that we do want to resemble Him, then the essence of our actions inverts and we chase, not after the attainment of some pleasures, fulfillment but after the quality of the light which is to do good to His created beings.

Student: I hear from you that the point of entering Lishma, the point that we're working with, is about choosing it. We need to choose it.

M. Laitman: We need to choose to advance by the way of the bestower.

Student: Choosing between two alternatives?

M. Laitman: Yes, between the will to receive and the will to bestow.

Student: This choice, we have to renew constantly between us?

M. Laitman: Yes, and it's only towards that, that the Creator keeps giving us new states.

Student: He tells us about the quality we lack so we will develop the desire to choose it?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (20:16) From what we discussed, how to understand what it means to bring contentment to the Creator?

M. Laitman: We haven't learned that yet. To bring contentment to the Creator, that we can do if we know what His exact desire is, and if we can fulfill His desire.

Student: It's all good for us to learn it because how is it perceived there? He doesn’t have a will to receive. I can't look at a child and a mother as an example.

M. Laitman: If you want to discover the Creator in order to benefit Him, to do something for Him, then you're already taking a step towards that.

Item 5

Reading: (21:32) We should know that unification and separation applied in spirituality relate only to equivalence of form and disparity of form. This is because if two spiritual objects are of the same form, they are united, and they are one, and not two, as there is nothing to separate them from one another. They can only be discerned as two when there is some disparity of form between them.

Also, to the extent of their disparity of form, so is the measure of their distance from one another. Thus, if they are of opposite forms, they are considered as remote as the east from the west, meaning the greatest distance we can picture in reality.

M. Laitman: Is that clear?

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (22:52) It's not clear what he's talking about, about two spiritual qualities that are as one. What two spiritual qualities?

M. Laitman: It doesn't matter. The created being is called that which has a will to receive. You have two which have similar desires to receive or even equal desires to receive, basically the same, and they become one. That's what he's saying, that the difference between desires is what differentiates between the created beings.

Student: Yes, but it says two spiritual objects, two spiritual objects are of the same form. It means that the will to receive is in the same form as the will to bestow. Can it be such a thing?

M. Laitman: No, no.

Student: What are the two spiritual objects?

M. Laitman: I don't know how to describe that for you. The will to bestow is called spiritual.

Student: Say in the Ten, for example, the friends need to be in a certain equivalence of form between them?

M. Laitman: That's preferable.

Student: What does it mean that they are in one place? If they come closer in their desire and their yearning to bestow, they are in one place. We're not talking about the corporeal place.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: What does it mean that we are in one place?

M. Laitman: You are of one desire. In one desire, that's it.

Student: The place is the same as one desire.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (24:52) In item three he writes, what incomplete actions, operations that came out of the Creator, Baal HaSulam talks about, what's incomplete about His operation?

M. Laitman: Incomplete for the Creator, that's the creation of the will to receive in the created beings. If we don't take into account His purpose, the form it needs to receive by way of corrections, you could say something like that.

Student: In the beginning, the Creator created the will to receive, so…

M. Laitman: Okay, that's clear, but if you don't take that into account, then the will to receive is born flawed.

Item 6.

Reading: (26:09) But in the Creator, there is no thought or perception whatsoever, and we cannot utter or say anything with regard to Him. But since we know You by Your actions, we should discern that He is a desire to bestow, since He created everything in order to delight His creatures and bestow His abundance upon us.

Thus, the souls are in oppositeness of form from Him, since He is all bestowal and has no will to receive anything, while the souls were imprinted with a will to receive for themselves. And we have already said that there is no greater oppositeness of form than this.

It follows that had the souls remained with the will to receive, they would forever remain separated from Him.

M. Laitman: Questions?

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (27:46) You said that the revelation of the Creator is not in the fulfillment of the will to receive but, specifically, in that the created being understands His desire to do good to him or something like that. That the created being does not get full but he somehow realizes the light wants to fill it.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Can you open it up? What does it mean?

M. Laitman: We'll talk about it a lot in the future but for now we should just know that the Creator's desire to bestow is the exact opposite of the will to receive in the created being.

Student: Is it correct to say that the created being is closer to the Creator specifically when he's not being filled?

M. Laitman: No.Why?

Student: Because once he's filled, where is it similar? It's opposite.

M. Laitman: The created being is in his will to receive and, as it begins to awaken the will to bestow, then he feels that it's truly the form that is opposite to him and to realize it. To bring it into being, he has to perform a restriction over himself, to restrict the will to receive in him and to try to reveal the opposite form which is the will to bestow. If he succeeds, then according to the will to bestow by which he becomes equal with the Creator, then you can say that he gets to know the Creator and feels Him.

Student: What is the fulfillment of the will to bestow?

M. Laitman: The fulfillment of the will to bestow is that dose of light that he attains as he gets closer to the Creator.

Student: Is that a portion of light that he receives into himself but a portion of equivalence? Something like that?

M. Laitman: No, no, no, I'm not twisting anything around here. The same will to receive which he had, he now realized, actualized by receiving the light which was concealed, receiving it in order to bestow.

Student: We learned it many, many years, this model and, still, it's incomprehensible.

M. Laitman: Yes, we cannot sense it with our senses.

Student: What can we do to start tasting these discernments? Not intellectually but actually, in drawings, we know it.

M. Laitman: Well.

Student: How can we start tasting it?

M. Laitman: Just try, attempt it.

Student: What can I try with the friends in order to taste it?

M. Laitman: Working with the will to receive and the will to bestow to the extent that you reveal them within you, work with them with the friends.

Student: How do I work with the will to bestow with the friends? Day to day, we wish to make such an exercise in detail. How do I do it?

M. Laitman: Try doing something for them that relates to the will to bestow. Do something that relates to the will to receive. Observe the difference between them. See how you can diminish or increase this desire or that desire, yes? Perform such exercises.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (33:02) What does it mean to restrict the will to receive?

M. Laitman: Restricting the will to receive means not using it in full.

Student: He writes here that the will to receive wants to receive the abundance.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: If the will to receive is severed from the will to bestow, how does it feel the abundance that he wants to receive?

M. Laitman: Those two things are unrelated.

Student: If the will to receive and the will to bestow are in disparity of form?

M. Laitman: Then…

Student: How does the will to receive want to receive the abundance of the will to bestow?

M. Laitman: The will to receive wants to receive the abundance, yes? What's bothering you?

Student: Because if they're in oppositeness of form, they can't feel one another, if I've understood correctly.

M. Laitman: No.

Student: How can the will to receive feel the abundance?

M. Laitman: As being right in front of Him, and he feels that he lacks that. The will to receive feels that he lacks the abundance, the light. He wants to receive it.

Student: And then he needs to make a restriction on that?

M. Laitman: Yes, yes, those are all actions that emerge from that.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (35:01) Our attitude toward the light that is received as a result of the effort, that should be an attitude toward this force that allows me to work, helps me to work?

M. Laitman: Yes, the light can give us power and intelligence, cerebral power, and actual power so as to direct ourselves toward some action.

Student: It's both for that, and it also serves as a fulfillment, it's felt as a fulfillment as a force so we have to increase the fulfillment part?

M. Laitman: Yes, the light can fulfill us and satisfy us.

Student: So there's nothing, no point in restricting the fulfillment?

M. Laitman: We can increase the fulfillment through our actions.

Student: No, I asked about restricting it.

M. Laitman: Restricting, we can do that too.

Student: When do we do it this way, and when do we do it that way?

M. Laitman: Well, that's the work already, you understand?

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (36:39) What connects the Creator and the created being while they're in disparity of form?

M. Laitman: The difference of form between them, the disparity of form - what the created being wants to receive is fulfillment for its desire, and that exists in the Creator. And what the Creator wants from the created being is for the created being to work with that will to receive which is revealed within it, and to come closer to equivalence of form with the Creator.

Student: What's the common denominator between them when they're in disparity of form?

M. Laitman: In the state of disparity of form, the connection between them, the foundation between them is such that both of them can enjoy the light.

Student: That's the common thing?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: What's opposite here?

M. Laitman: What's opposite is that the created being can receive the light from the Creator, and also the opposite, he can not receive it so as to bestow. It's against his will.

Student: There is connection between them even during disparity of form?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: How from the most opposite state I begin to approach Him? From what? Where?

M. Laitman: He starts coming closer from the opposite disparate state. What's the problem?

Student: How do we begin to approach it in a new state that's opposite to Him?

M. Laitman: It's under the condition that you begin to feel that the will to receive is not acting in your best interests, which is called the recognition of evil.

Student: And then when I feel that I'm opposite to Him and that it's not in my benefit, what's happening in me, what's the next process in me?

M. Laitman: The process that then happens within you is that you do not want to receive, you do not want to use the will to receive so as to not be the opposite of the Creator in practice.

Student: Equivalence of form comes when I don't want to be in a lack of equivalence of form, I don't want to suffer?

M. Laitman: Let's say.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (40:34) It's not clear if the oppositeness is the reception or not bestowing to the Creator.

M. Laitman: The disparity is in terms of form. One works with the will to receive, and the other works with the will to bestow.

Student: Not to receive, as you said, is still not being in equivalence of form, it's still being in disparity. It's only part of it. Baal HaSulam writes that the fact that there is a will to receive, that's already the opposition. How to understand it?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: No, but not to be in complete adhesion, this is the opposition?

M. Laitman: Not being in full adhesion, you cannot say that that's the completed final state.

Student: In order to reach equivalence of form, the created being chooses not to receive. He follows the path of not receiving.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: That's one kind of style of work. Versus receiving in order to bestow, he has to go through that stage of not receiving?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: What will bring him to adhesion there, to equivalence of form?

M. Laitman: The created being doesn't have many choices, many options. It can only work with its will to receive through which he measures where he is in relation to the Creator, in relation to the bestower. And then, either he receives and enjoys, or not to receive and enjoy that. And these are the two options, basically.

Student: Right. He receives. If he receives and he enjoys, it's opposition. If he doesn't receive and he enjoys, how can he come out of there? It's not complete equivalence, not to receive and to enjoy.

M. Laitman: Correct.

Student: How does he get to receiving in order to bestow? How do you get there?

M. Laitman: We see that he learns that from the forms of light that happen upon the vessel.

Student: What form promotes the created being to receiving in order to bestow?

M. Laitman: The will to receive, which receives the abundance, fulfills itself although it is in disparity of form with the Creator. Next, the will to receive, which doesn't receive the abundance, feels that it is opposite to the Creator and empty. Yes? Now. We also said, we talked about how the will to receive reaches equivalence of form. Yes? It reaches equivalence of form by not receiving the light despite wanting to receive it. And then it receives an illumination, the light of Hassadim, and he receives satisfaction from being opposite to the will to receive, opposite to himself, thus elevating himself towards equivalence with the Creator, as the same way the Creator doesn't receive anything, he also does not receive anything.

Student: What's his motivation from here to continue?

M. Laitman: The motivation is to come closer to the Creator, to resemble Him, from that he receives the light of Hassadim. [Hassadim in Hebrew, grace or mercy].

Student: And he can't touch the light of Hochma, the desire comes from above, the innovation?

M. Laitman: To get the light of Hochma, after he has the light of Hassadim, he can open himself up, becoming a vessel for the reception of the light of Hochma.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (46:17) You said to the friend that the Creator constantly teaches us more and more how to learn the will to bestow. So what does it mean” from your actions we shall know you”? How do we interpret that? What actions does it give us here, to the work between us that we can learn about the will to bestow?

M. Laitman: We give the Creator, we make for the Creator a space in which He can show himself to us, and through that, we study Him.

Student: Making room for the Creator is from within the restriction that we make?

M. Laitman: I study the Creator from all these stages. The fact that he created me, filled me, restricted me, from all those, I study Him.

Student: He writes here also, according to the size of the disparity of form between them, this change in form between us, coming closer, moving away, that we learn the Creator. How do we learn Him from the disparity of form?

M. Laitman: That creates within us vessels, the will to receive. If I received at one point and then restricted myself, and now I decide that I'm not opening myself up completely but only in part, then I'm already learning what exists within the part that I filled within me, and the difference between that and the part which I didn't fill up, and so I learn between the will to bestow and the will to receive.

Student: Is part of the learning of how to acquire the will to bestow part of acquiring the will to bestow, we have to realize in the connection between us in the Ten?

M. Laitman: Not yet. How will you use it?

Student: You told us before to do exercises, seemingly behave the way the Creator behaves with us with the friends, so when I acquire more and more the will-to-bestow in that effort, how do I realize that?

M. Laitman: Now, you can use the will to bestow only in a negative manner, as you do not want to use it, and from that point you begin to understand how you need to stand in front of the Creator.

Student: But how do I grow the vessels? I didn't receive the light, how do I grow the vessels so just to approach Him, and be a little bit like Him, and bestow a little bit?

M. Laitman: How you can come close to the Creator and be the bestower? For that, you need to be in disparity of form, meaning that you can awaken within yourself the will to receive, and for that will to receive to be under your control. And then, you begin to use it, and this usage then is called receiving in order to bestow.

Student: So, this use, you say, this service, when I control my desire, I have to do it with the friends. Is it not the way? How do I come out into the direction of approaching Him, to feel that doing these actions, the way the Creator is teaching me?

M. Laitman: Yes, that's in serving the friends.

Student: Can I do it? Because you said don't do it before the friends, only negatively.

M. Laitman: And now it is so, yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (51:41) As a person, is there such a thing, closer or not, or less close, or is it something more discreet?

Student: Closer, less close, it's all there.

M. Laitman: Is it an adhesion or not an adhesion, he can measure? If I'm closer, how do you measure that?

M. Laitman: You measure insofar as you're within that field of being closer or further away, then you measure.

Student: Either he receives or he bestows, there's no…

M. Laitman: No, there's either receiving or bestowing, and also the extent to which one is receiving or bestowing.

Student: In what can a person measure, can he measure it?

M. Laitman: Yes, if he has the vessels, the instruments.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (52:46) How do I identify the form of light that passes through me?

M. Laitman: In who?

Student: In the person. From the outside? I don't know. How can a person detect from within him the form of light that passes through him? He has to reach equivalence, so how does he identify the thing that's opposite?

M. Laitman: Everything is measured according to equivalence or difference. That's it.

Student: Everything is measured according to the differences. What's in me?

M. Laitman: In you?

Student: It means the will to receive only, the intention to receive.

M. Laitman: Why?

Student: That's what I'm asking. How do I detect the opposite, the difference, the thing that's opposite, the light, the form of light?

M. Laitman: You identify with the upper light, with his desire. Or you can identify with your desire, your vessel. And you can compare your desire and the light that fills you.

Student: How do I identify this light? The light that fills, the light that builds, what works.

M. Laitman: We always measure the light only according to the vessels.

Student: So, we're not in complete opposition to it.

M. Laitman: Maybe we are, maybe we aren't. You're correct in saying that if we're in absolute disparity of form, then we don't have a way to measure ourselves, nothing to measure ourselves against. But you get there also, we get to that.

Student: What do I have to learn from the actions of the Creator on me?

M. Laitman: All sorts of acts of bestowal. What He does to bring you to bestowal.

Student: To observe these actions, to do something, what do I have to do with what's going over me?

M. Laitman: Observe, and try to adapt yourself to that.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (56:05) In the friend’s question, there's many questions about detection. How can we detect the will of the Creator to bestow in the world around us? Students are asking again, how can we detect the Creator's desire to bestow in the world around us? Because you said also before that, in recognition of evil. So, how can we detect, identify the will to bestow in the world around us? This is the question.

M. Laitman: From the side of the created being or the Creator?

Student: From the side of the created being, the student, the one who works.

M. Laitman: How to detect the measure of bestowal?

Student: The desire of the Creator to bestow around us, to see accurately.

M. Laitman: The Creator's will, you're talking about the created being.

Student: How can the created being detect the correct will to bestow not taking other desires?

M. Laitman: That's out of him making an effort to bestow upon the Creator as he feels the Creator bestowing upon him. And in that manner, he learns the forms of the Creator as they relate to himself.

Question (Brazil 5): (58:08) What does it mean to receive in order to bestow? What can we truly bestow to our friend?

M. Laitman: Bestow upon him an example. We don't have any powers which are above our world. However, by presenting an example to the friend, supporting him, or some force, some power, support, by that we help him. And then he can also be like us.

Question (Tukiye 8): (59:05) I heard that we can measure the light according to our vessel. How can we expand and imagine our vessel?

M. Laitman: We can't do that yet. This we cannot do yet.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (59:35) If a person understands that it's not worthwhile to receive for himself, he doesn't even want to receive for himself. He even turns to the Creator and he asks, and still he cannot not receive for himself. What can he do? Why doesn't it work?

M. Laitman: It doesn't work, because he doesn't have the power of the restriction of the screen yet.

Student: What's the difference between wanting to stop to receive and actually receiving such a power?

M. Laitman: One who has the power to receive in order to bestow, well, that's something else entirely. He's already performing spiritual actions. Whereas a person who cannot do that, he is in Katnut, smallness.

Student: When does the Creator give a person the ability to do such an action?

M. Laitman: It's according to the person's desire.

Student: A person has a desire, he doesn't forget to bestow. He just wants to stop receiving for himself. But it doesn't matter how many times he makes a decision, it doesn't work. So what's missing for such a person?

M. Laitman: He doesn't have a goal. His goal is encapsulated within him. He just wants to stop receiving. Well, he restricts himself.

Student: He doesn't restrict, he doesn't even manage to restrict.

M. Laitman: In short, he needs to find which actions, by which actions he can give contentment to his environment.

Student: Without restriction, just actions?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And then, in the end, he receives like a gift?

M. Laitman: It's not a gift, let him try that for now.

Student: We're in such an environment, we're all trying, we're all doing it all the time, and still we don't get that muscle. So, a person can make an arbitrary decision to stop receiving. Why doesn't it work?

M. Laitman: We'll think about it.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:02:54) Let's say the Ten is about to make a mutual action, a meal Thursday night, for example, and when you look at the friends, you see that each one of them is at least bestowing in order to bestow. He came to do good to the friends without any intention for himself. What turns this action to a corrected action, which is bestowing in order to bestow, that glues us to the upper one?

M. Laitman: Your goal, what is it?

Student: To do good to the friends.

M. Laitman: To do good to the friends, all right. And you want to do that by what means?

Student: Through actions, maybe preparing the meal, maybe arranging something, the actions themselves, through the actions?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: The goal is giving contentment, it's also before the friends.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: You feel that they are bestowing in order to bestow, but where's the addition that turns it into a corrected action?

M. Laitman: If you elevate this action to a certain height, to the height of bestowal upon others, then after that, you elevate it again to the height of bestowal upon the Creator. Can't you do that?

Student: Seemingly, this appears to be the equation before us and also the action, but where do you really see it, that this action becomes corrected?

M. Laitman: All right, we will discuss that. That's something we're still lacking.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:06:01) Here in our corporeal world, I can make actions toward a friend even when I don't want it. I feel rejection from him, I still can physically approach him. The ability of doing actions to draw in light, what he writes here, in spirituality, it's not like that. There's no way to approach each other if there's a change in qualities. How in spirituality do we make any actions of advancement, of moving forward?

M. Laitman: In spirituality, acts of closeness, we do that through actions. I look to see what the friend is missing, lacking, what he needs in order to succeed, to connect, and so on.

Student: It's still on the level of this world, the actions.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Meaning, if it wasn't for this reality where the Creator changed the laws, I'd have no way of coming closer to him?

M. Laitman: No, that's why this world is needed.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:07:48) Am I allowed to see what the friend is lacking, and by giving him to obligate him to be connected to me?

M. Laitman: I don't know what you're talking about.

Student: I see the friend is missing something, and I have the ability to fill this desire, this deficiency.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: I'm obligated to give him, but maybe the state where I fill him, binds him to me. Is this allowed, or should I be careful there?

M. Laitman: That's something you need to decide.

Student: According to what?

M. Laitman: According to the extent of your understanding.

Student: If my intention is to really benefit the friend, and to be connected to the Creator, so maybe I bind him, I prevent him from...

M. Laitman: Yes, yes. So you have to decide, turn to the Creator, ask Him to know, to receive an explanation.

Student: Is it correct to treat it gingerly?

M. Laitman: Yes, that's clear.

Question (Italy 1): (01:09:38) In giving, the created being is not giving more, because only the Creator gives. So what is it when the created being wants to give to do the opposite of how it was created? Do I still see the created being there? The created being's nature is reception. But if he begins to bestow suddenly, will I still exist when I change my nature? It won't be me. Do I still exist when I bestow?

M. Laitman: If I receive this special power from above, which gives me the ability to bestow, then, of course, I need to use it to rise to another degree.

Student: He's asking, I as a created being, my nature is reception. If I change my nature and I only bestow, I don't receive. Do I still exist in that state as a created being?

M. Laitman: Yes, until you discover that you can't receive without bestowing.

Song: (01:11:48)

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