Morning Lesson July 6, 2021 Transcription
1. R. We have spoken so far about the three states, what happens next?
Item 16 “Therefore one might wonder if choice had been….” (00:23) Twice
2. R. (04:07) That only we need to reveal this state, the state does not change, we are in the world of Ein Sof in None Else Besides Him and nothing is changing except for our perception. Our perception is constantly changing, upgrading and updating from the way of recognizing the corruption to the correction, corruption and correction, corruption and correction as the advantage of light from darkness until we come to the state where we reveal the good state that always existed. That there is none else besides Him and this is all we need to reveal. That all of these states are only relative to a person in order to create in him and develop in him the vessels, the tools to feel the reward.
Reader continues (05:26): “He writes, we must be completed and come to ...”
3. R. (05:41) All of the states are the same state that the Creator created. One state but relative to a person, the state is revealed each time differently according to the extent which a person can be in adhesion with the correct final state. We develop in the recognition of the final state in order to truly feel it from our forces, from our feeling so there is a path of development here to the same final state which always existed. We also exist in the world of Ein Sof and also in the end of correction but how do we discover this? We discover according to our vessels, corrupted, separated.
4. S. (06:36) What is the first state?
R. The first state is the state the Creator created for us, where we begin our way towards recognizing evil wherever we are. The second is along the way in a simple way, that I am constantly updating myself and there is a correction.
S. Why is the third state found in the first?
R. Because this state is the same, a baby is born to a world that around him has everything, but he doesn't feel anything. Relative to the world he is in the state that the whole world is ready but relative to how he attains the world, he is still in the first state. You live in a reality where next to you there are Kabbalists who feel completely different states than yours so what can you do, each one to his own vessels.
Item 16 again (08:14)
5. S. (11:19) So what is the difference between the 1st and the 3rd state?
R. The revealing towards the created beings, to the extent to which they open their vessels and according to their corrected vessels, they can feel where they are in the third state exists in the first state also, of course but not from the perspective of each and every individual. Each person feels according to his own corruptions that it is a first state and a corrected person attains in that same state but it is the third state. That is the way it is. Just as it is in our world there are people who feel good or feel bad, so that it is the state of the world or their own personal feeling, subjective feeling of the individual.
6. S. (12:34) If they were rewarded in the first path we hasten corrections, are there shortcuts?
R. There are shortcuts, it all depends upon you, it is a certain time that it can't take longer than six thousand years but that you can shorten the time, it is called Israel sanctifies the times by yearning for the connection.
S. I'm speaking about Bnei Baruch, can we hasten the path?
R. Yes. Shortening doesn't mean that you leap forward, to accelerate your development in every state you need some sort of a place that you quickly go through as you prepare the place with the friends so all of these states of more connection is the whole difference between the first state and the third state, that in the third state we become connected. So you perform all kinds of actions, conditions in order to make an effort to connect and to be in a connected state as quickly as possible.
S. Can you count this in years?
R. Yes it can be in years.
S. Can you measure how many years?
R. I don't know and I don't care, I try as quick as possible.
S. It took Baal HaSulam 20 years.
R. Please.
7. S. (14:54) Why do we need to correct the perception of reality through recognition of evil?
R. Because the advantage of the light is from within the darkness as there's no other way to feel reality unless you reveal it from its opposite. It is impossible, just like in our world we have created beings that cannot feel any state unless from its opposite state. The advantage of the light from within the darkness as you always have the plus and the minus, as we measure, feel and detect only through its opposite. Every measurement and every feeling, in everything.
8. S. (16:12) We are between the 1st and the 3rd state, what is the path of suffering or the path of Torah here?
R. The path of suffering is when we don't rush our development ourselves and then the broken records are revealed and we feel problems, sorrow, war and they promote us. The way of the light, the way of Torah is when we draw the light and it pulls us forward in a good direction from good to better. This is different, just like a child if you study you'll get rewards. This is the path of Torah the path of light and if you go to punish him and give him some sort of suffering he will have to advance by this.
S. So we get the blows and suffering in between 2 and 3?
R. That depends upon us as we always have two options, if we advance strongly toward connection between us whatever happens, towards connection between us. Then we are in that state and come to a state where we accelerate the records and we force the records to develop quickly and comfortably as we prepare a place for them.
9. S. (18:09) The state that we need to receive the third, it will take place in the first state. Is this something that we gradually correct?
R. Yes, of course we develop these desires as our whole development is through the correction.
S. So it happens according to our advancement or all at once?
R. Nothing happens at once, it either happens according to what we draw and are ready for or according to time, called the path of suffering because we didn't draw or prepare ourselves for it. This is why the next state is a good state, we feel it as bad because we are not prepared for it and if we are ready for it, then we feel it as good, that it came on time and it is desirable.
10. S. (19:23) As a result of that excerpt, the suffering comes to whoever is lazy in the work, on the other hand we read that according to the law of mutual guarantee the ones that are punished are the righteous. How do we combine these two?
R. You are asking correctly but we will scrutinize these things as there are many ways of suffering. The suffering that the righteous will see who are also responsible for the generation and that is why they received those sufferings. The suffering that the regular people receive who don't carry out their small free choice, we will scrutinize this. But each one receives according to what he deserves, according to his degree and the root of his soul. There is no such thing as one receiving for the other.
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(20:37)
Baal
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goal
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is
this
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R.
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S. How broad is this law, is this in the corporeal world as well, say one slips on a banana peel on the street, he had to slip, there was no choice?
R. In the corporeal world he didn't have a choice to slip on the banana, but he did have a choice to do other things prior to it so that he wouldn't come to the state where he slipped.
12. S. (21:46) How can we understand that we have this path to perform the commandments?
R. We have to accept it as an opportunity, either we live in our world like animals which is what humanity is doing or we can sweeten our way, mitigate it and bring ourselves to feel the upper nature which operates on us, In this way, so that we can determine our lives as more advanced. Each time in our feeling and understanding of what is happening to us, that we are not under the process of development, of evolution that comes seemingly by faith. But that rather we ourselves operate the upper force so that it will operate on us gradually and with our consent. It all depends upon us, how much we are moving towards the upper force.
13. S. (23:18) Can we understand the freedom of choice rationally in our head or do we always have to believe it, above reason that there is freedom of choice?
R. Free choice in what? Getting closer to each other and by that accelerating the next state, bringing it closer. If I accept this process that we have to return to being in one vessel and it is clear that I act in such a way that the more we unite then we are going towards connection, towards the right future and that is my free choice. In what way is it not free? If I don't do that, then all kinds of problems and troubles will pressure me and still force me to realize this free choice but then it won't be free choice but the path of suffering.
S. Can I be more precise, why am I asking, because it always seems that also the freedom of choice that the Creator is helping me do this? That it is all from Him?
R. He helps you to arrange it but on the condition that you choose for yourself, that you want to go with the free choice but after the choice of course the Creator organizes it.
14. S. (25:22) The sweetening of the path if you do it all right, where do you feel this, and what vessels and what reality is the sweetening felt?
R. The sweetening is felt in the state itself, the way I accept them as good.
15. S. (25:46) And our generation, the hastening of times, means to work for the general and a correction for the whole?
R. Yes.
S. Is this realistic?
R. Yes.
16. S. (26:09) In Item 14 when he defines the three states, the first state he defines like this, is it the reality in Ein Sof in the thought of creation that they already have the future form of the end of correction? What does this mean?
R. First of all, these are spiritual states not corporeal states. We are in the world of Ein Sof but in a state that we don't know as we are completely obtuse, but dense and we don't feel it in our state. This is the first state. When the force has seemingly, has not started operating and developing us, this is the first state. The second state is when the forces of our development develop us and lead us to the third state, so what is the difference between the 1st and the 3rd? We are in the same state but the difference is our internal development. But we are always in the world of Ein Sof, in the power of the Creator.
S. In that state you are saying, that the same state what is that?
R. There is no difference between the states, no difference between any states only from the perspective of the created beings, only from the perspective of the created beings. We are always in the same state. He is one and His name is One. We are in with the Creator and that is it. Now in order to know that state in our development eternally, from our perspective there are states. So in order to feel where we exist inside the Creator we need to feel far, broken, we have to unite and perform all kinds of states we have to go through but it is all in order to know and feel that we are in Ein Sof.
S. So we are in Ein Sof that is the first state?
R. It is always.
S. If you slice it into first, second and third, how do you define it?
R. By the created beings, as they are unconscious of being in infinity and the second, is when they develop their awareness the feeling of the Creator gradually during the 6000 degrees and the third state that they already received it and accepted it. The third state, how is it different from the second state? It is the summation of all of the states that we have gone through, through the 6000 degrees that become as one integral degree.
Item 17 (29:58) Twice
17. S. (36:36) What can we explain about the way the Creator is educating us, how does the system that we are reading about help us advance properly to the purpose of creation?
R. I don't understand the question. What can we explain, what we are saying, what the teacher teaches us, through and through the bad states and the good states and by this it gives us all kinds of discernment in our feelings, in our understanding, in our affair as this is how he works. He has only two states, a little more light and a little more darkness. Between the light and the darkness there are all kinds of manners, pleasant or unpleasant. He educates us because we have no other senses besides the desire to receive, but desire to feel the life and pleasure. This is why the Creator through his influence, on our desire to receive, meaning we are to receive something bad or good and by this he develops us. By all such operations we begin to understand besides feeling we begin to understand those things. Meaning our understanding, feeling, reason and awareness grows. This is how we develop but it all comes from feeling only bitter or sweet and after that, truth and falsehood develop.
18. S. (38:46) My impression is that the first and the third are the same state, and only perceived differently by us?
R. Correct. The Creator's relation to the created being never changes, we are always in the good who does good and it all depends upon our development. It is very simple.
19. S. (39:33) What are the states of ascent, my ego grows so my heart will resemble the ego?
R. Yes, the more a person grows the more his ego grows, one who is greater than his friend his ego is greater.
S. Is that faith above reason?
R. Yes, it is faith above reason.
20. S. (40:54) I feel that if we understand it correctly that we can save ourselves a lot of problems because in the end it is written that we are already in a perfect state which is worthy for the perfect Creator, how do we understand this correctly?
R. Only by increasing the connection between us, only by getting closer internally among all the friends as this is the only operation by which we change our spiritual state.
21. S. (42:19) Do we always purpose by building the middle line?
R. Yes, that is true.
22. S. (42:55) It is not clear what Baal HaSulam writes that Torah is not the path of suffering, it sounds like there is a path of suffering in the end?
R. No, because on the path of Torah you get such directions that are part of your development, this is why it is not felt as suffering, suffering means that you can't find a reason for what is happening, or you can't justify the reason or that you don't participate in it on your own. If you cause the healing it is not called suffering anymore.
S. Where is this revealed?
R. In your awareness.
23. S. (43:58) Concerning the Creator's education method, I heard that he teaches us through the carrot and the stick, but we also heard the education through personal example, how do we take the personal example from the Creator?
R. You build the image of the Creator between us as much as you can cause connection between the friends and learn from it. Please do this, as this is the education of the Kabbalist that we have to try to reach connection and from it we have to learn.
S. What is the difference between the carrot and the stick of the Creator and teaching the way according to one's way?
R. It's not simple, we will speak about it and it's not for now. Do you want to go in all kinds of directions instead of advancing in the introduction? I see the study is becoming unfocused. You don't want to read or know what's written in the book exactly but soon you will start asking me about psychological problems in your family and all those things. This is not according to what he is writing about.
24. S. (45:38) We have a beautiful 10 and although not everyone show up every day the majority is present and we consider ourselves connected, each friend has his personal experiences and suffering but when we come to the 10 these states sometimes go away, is this what you would call a connection or is it a psychological escape?
R. That is something that you have to get such discernment, not me, you have to give those discernments. I don't want to determine and then later you will relate to it differently depending on my discernment. This is only you between yourselves and decide together through which state you are going through.
Item 18 (47:04) “This settles our fifth inquiry, how can it be ...” Twice
25. S. (51:10) What we are learning now is very sublime material. It kind of cancels all of the deficiencies, these sick friends and corporeal problems that arise, it is pleasant to be in it. The question is to what extent should our focus and attention be on the high sublime court of their learning while the deficiencies exist and awaken each day, should we be drawn to them and in our prayer?
R. We need to pray on the states we are going through in our life because they come out of that same upper force, as all of these global actions that we are reading about here, this and that. We need to ascribe it to the Creator and ask him upon this and that for corrections. This is why he invites whatever he invites within us, all kinds of feelings, whether pleasant or unpleasant. It doesn't matter about what, we have to respond about anything and by this we develop our feeling and advance more and more to be worthy to feel his attitude towards us. Even though we are speaking about these global great things above time, motion and space, the plan of the purpose of creation, along with it, we must also connect these things, these great exalted things with our daily simple life. Lowly. On all of them we must ask and give gratitude towards the Creator. I live in two worlds, let us say.
26. S. (53:46) Can you try to understand what does it mean, we receive the transitory wasteful body called the desire to receive for itself and correct it? What is the difference between this and attainment of the eternal body we have to obtain in the third state?
R. What action?
S. The action of receiving in the body which is wasteful and transitory that we correct, why is this action we need to go through in the second state to attain our Eternal body in the third state?
R. How do we attain this eternal body is by specifically working from our current body, our corrupted desire to receive helps us discern about all kinds of states. To come close to the corrected state and then we attain our corrected body that is the difference between a corrected or corrupted body with the same desire with the corrections it went through.
S. Why is the first state not enough? Why do we have to go through it to acquire awareness?
R. Our attainment always includes two polar states, the advantage of light from the darkness. There is no other way but always to be between ascent and descent, compare light and dark, compare lack of knowing to knowing. Look at the states we're going through, even the ascent and descent. In the descent I am stupid, dumb and in an ascent I am already human and in somewhat already a Kabbalist and this will be revealed more and more. The differences will be very big just like the Baal Shem Tov who didn't know anything in his descent. This is why we cannot connect these states. Maybe now we don't feel much as the gap between them is helping us to advance and the gap between the polar states is what gives us the vessel.
S. So the first state is complete only because it changed within it the second and third state?
R. Yes.
S. Because it is not complete, because the created being is not in awareness?
R. Because he cannot say whether he is whole or not.
S. To have a reality of created beings it is defined in the first state this process of moving through the states?
R. Correct. That is a nice summary.
Item 19 (57:50) “With this we settle the fourth inquiry...” Twice
27. S. (01:04:53) Baal HaSulam writes, to come and see, that when all of the people agree unanimously and have no other desire except to bestow upon the friends, to ask all of the people is this my 10?
R. Yes, it is one law for the whole world or for the 10, if you do it in the 10, to some extent you will feel how it takes place.
28. S. (01:05:49) In this item to whom do we attribute the Klipa?
R. The Klipa means that it is only there to keep the fruit, that there is nothing bad or lost about it, nothing that isn't for the need of the final goal. This is why it's not bad like you think, it is bad or evil that exists in order for the good to exist, otherwise the evil won't have any place, this is why the value of the evil is as the value of the good.
29. S. (01:06:41) As it says here, that the body is created to suffer how do we not come to masochism?
R. Our desire to receive exists only in order to feel as much as it is in order to receive that it brings it to death and in order to bestow gives it life. If we help the desire to receive, understand us, then by this we are helping ourselves to advance to the good. What masochism? By you giving your desire to receive more suffering than what it receives from the direction of creation this is what you are doing. It is not what the Creator brings you, this is why I don't think that it helps you to advance. No. We need only to receive what comes from the Creator and to use it correctly.
30. S. (01:08:04) It says that the pains we suffer are but revelation of the body's nothingness and the harm in it, what does it mean the harm in it?
R. We talked about it a thousand times, all of this suffering that we feel is only to force us to advance from the first state of creation to the third state of creation there is nothing and no other purpose but that. It is not that we need to suffer or be sick, or be dead, it is only for us to advance quickly through the connection between us because to the extent of our connection, we advance to the path of creation, to the purpose of creation, this the benefit and the purpose and the reason for all of the suffering. If we understand this as the wisdom of Kabbalah teaches us. So let us from today and onward say that there is no suffering, that we see we are only being awakened towards connection and in this way that we advance.
S. So there's something with the translation that is not quite right, I don't understand what is the harm in it, what does it mean, to harm in it?
R. In our will to receive we cannot receive anything good, also emotional or in a purposeful way because it is opposite in the form of the Creator.
31. S. (01:10:46) If all the people in the world agree to care for others, what is it like with respect to the first, second and third state, where is this on the axis?
R. Until the third state that we come to, we always have ascent and descent, different states that we are still in the shattering, the shattering works on the entire body of Adam and this is why there, even though they did nothing bad supposedly. But because they are still in one body with the wicked so they are suffering more than the wicked. Until the end of correction don't search for justice because it is one whole complete system and the law of mutual guarantee works in it and if you don't want to keep the mutual guarantee from any side, in the general system to begin with when it was created, everybody is under the whole complete force of mutual guarantee. This is why you have a righteous, that feels bad and a wicked who feels good. In the law of mutual guarantee this is how everything happens, it is divided between everybody, you can speak a lot about it but this is what happened.
S. So that is the state of the end of correction where everybody is concerned about?
R. Yes. When everybody is concerned about everybody but they don't feel it, they feel it is for themselves, that each one that feels the other as himself and even more 620 times more, according to that, we reached the general correction.