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Daily Lesson (Afternoon) November 22, 2024

Part 1 Rabash. Record 120. Joy that Comes from Dancing

Today we are studying from the writings of Rabash, volume 3, page 1651, article 120, Joy that Comes from Dancing. The material is available on the websites Sviva Tova and Arvut systems. Likewise, you can send questions live via the websites.

Reading Article: (00:36) Joy that Comes from Dancing

In corporeality, we see that raising the feet off the ground implies vitality, for Raglayim [legs] imply Meraglim [spies], who went to tour the land. They went to see if it was worthwhile to make an effort to be rewarded with the land of Kedusha [holiness]. Within reason, there are always views that are opposite from Kedusha, but we need to believe above reason that it is a land flowing with milk and honey.

Therefore, when lifting the feet off the ground and going above reason, there can be joy, even though there are ups and downs.

However, the broken is not more than the standing; rather, the ascents and descents change rapidly, so there is no time when the joy goes away.

Re-Reading Article: Joy that Comes from Dancing

Question (W MAK): (04:05) What's the inner dance of the Ten from which the joy never departs?

M. Laitman: This is under the condition that if we are constantly looking for how to ascend, then it is clear that from the ascent we will descend again, we will ascend again and descend again. These ascents and descents are called a dance, where there need to be ascents, meaning constantly searching in what way we can rise to spirituality and pay attention that we will not be lowered. Our ego will work all the time on lowering us, and we will be grateful for being lowered so that we can rise again, and this is how we work with the ego, correctly, ascents and descents, ascents and descents, that's called the dance.

Student: This dance of the soul, this love for the Creator, is this the point we lean on?

M. Laitman: No, that's all above reason. Within reason we are despaired. We don't hear any or feel any taste in it.

Question (W PT 11): (05:53) When you rise above reason, and raise your feet off the ground, and going above reason, then you can feel joy. In what vessels do I feel the joy?

M. Laitman: When you raise yourself from the ground, meaning you are raising yourself above reason.

Student: So, it's not like the joy that we feel in our world, it's a different joy?

M. Laitman: You can say that it's similar to the joy that you feel anyway. If I put it before me as a goal, then I'm happy.

Student: Meaning, let's say, we have a meeting of friends, and we come to a state where we really feel joy from being together. Is that the joy that it's being spoken about?

M. Laitman: Yes, that's also the correct joy.

Question (W MAK 83): (07:04) You gave us an exercise to all together think about one friend, and we have a question about this exercise. Can we pray for a friend that doesn't participate in the life of the Ten altogether? And do we need her agreement to pray for her?

M. Laitman: You need to pray for every friend, no matter what state she's in. You need to think about the friends, to pray for the friends, and by no means don't stop doing this.

Even if they leave the group, don't want to be connected with us, you continue to pray for them.

Question (Haifa 1): (08:09) A person on the spiritual path always looks for signs that he's advancing correctly, and that he's on the right path, and Rabash says that joy is a testament. If he's always in joy, does that show that he is on the right path?

M. Laitman: That's not exactly. That's one of the small signs that he's probably nevertheless advancing, but to say 100% that that's correct, I can't say.

Student: That's like asking always, what's the source of the joy?

M. Laitman: Yes, that's of course.

Student: Let's say, it's the joy from the faith in the Creator, that the Creator is sending him all the good abundance. Is that the correct joy?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (W MAK 43): (09:18) Yesterday you said that we don't need to invent states if we don't feel anything, and that compelled me to deepen in my feelings and thoughts. It's written that the joy is from above reason, and it only is expressed when a person raises himself from the ground, and it depends on his confidence in the Creator. If I understand correctly, I need to put forth more efforts to understand where the joy comes from bestowal, and where it comes from myself.

M. Laitman: Yes, we always need to solve these problems, which we don't know how to spin or answer, how to open them. We always need to resolve them by intensifying our yearning and our exertion. Meaning, if I intensify my yearning, and with that feel joy, confidence, power, then it means that I'm on the right path.

Question (W Turkiye 7): (11:09) I heard you said that if there's no joy, it's a sign that there's no faith. I understand why states come to me. I have an understanding, but I can't feel the joy. So, what's in joy that's so hard for me to implement?

M. Laitman: Joy usually comes as a result of good deeds. When a person enjoys doing for the sake of the Creator, for the sake of the group, in something holy, and this way he advances. If he doesn't have joy, then he has a bad mood, and he can't continue this way. Therefore, there are a few articles where joy needs to come from good deeds, from the deeds of holiness, from deeds of bestowal.

Question (W ITA): (12:46) Does the body know the spiritual strength, or must it always be educated above the reason?

M. Laitman: We always need to go with it in faith above reason, and then we will receive the force from all the deeds we do.

Student: When the body feels the strength of joy, could it be a spiritual joy?

M. Laitman: Yes. It all depends on the person himself, and how he aims himself towards that.

Question (Turkiye 2): (14:08) What kind of logic or reason does a person need to come to in order to be able to go above reason? What helps us move from transition from one state to the other?

M. Laitman: When we make efforts, prayers, wanting to be connected to the Creator, in faith above reason. And if we raise ourselves this way, then it turns out that we receive from above reason an impression, and we can continue onwards.

Question (W MAK 104): (15:21) If one of the friends in the group, let's say, has a role, it's not suitable for her. Everyone sees this in the group, but she wants to perform this role, and we don't know what to do. The role is not suitable for her. What should we do?

M. Laitman: In all your different forms of relations towards her, you can help her, and she'll understand that she has to relate to her duty, to her role, her commitments, in a different way.

Question (W MAK 98): (16:07) Joy comes from pleasure. How do we keep the joy while we're working in order to bestow?

M. Laitman: You need to accustom yourselves gradually in small portions.

Student: Yes, that's what I thought, that I need to try to even bestow a little and rejoice, and that will give us the force to do so.

Question (W Heb 2): (16:54) To correlate everything that's happening to the Creator, is that the real joy?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: So, it turns out that this mercy from the side of the Creator, like the sin of the spies, and also the fact that we correct him, and that's the whole connection of the correction?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (W Hebrew 2): (17:28) How can you measure, or what indication is there that the Ten is bestowing contentment to the Creator, and He's happy about it?

M. Laitman: They all need to feel that. This needs to connect them, and they all need to feel that they're coming this way to bringing contentment to the Creator.

Question (German): (18:02) How shall we dance in the Ten together?

M. Laitman: When each and everyone tries to perform the same actions as the others. We jump up, to the right, to the left, together. That's called to dance together in the Ten.

Question (W SPA): (19:09) Are the states of joy and sadness and anger signs of the degree of our faith, or are they simply states that the Creator sends from above?

M. Laitman: No, no. This all stems from the spiritual work.

Question (W Azerbaijan): (19:48) Not too long ago, I was lacking forces. I thought I wouldn't be able to continue with the role I took up on myself. I wrote a letter to the Creator, like a prayer. I wrote for maybe an hour, non-stop. In the morning, those thoughts stopped, and a very big desire and joy appeared. It even surprised me. I really thanked the Creator. But there's also another side. Before I started to pray, I shared my situation with a friend, but she said to me: Let go of all the projects and leave everything. Leave the role. Now I can't justify the friend. How do I rise above that? Will we not be able to be friends any longer? I'm really sorry that I can't justify her.

M. Laitman: Here too, turn to the Creator.

Student: But if a friend shares with us her state, how do we support this friend directly? What do we reply?

M. Laitman: Only from the heart.

Question (W SPA): (21:25) The spiritual processes that we are overcoming, can this feel as something empty? Or is it always felt as joy when we succeed in overcoming?

M. Laitman: If we succeed, it always brings joy and fills you with spirit.

Question (W ITA): (22:01) How can we prevent reason, a powerful force with distinct qualities, shape and weight, from turning into a rigid habit, shaping our character and destiny?

M. Laitman: We need to check what we're in and what form of reason we're in. That's it.

Question (W MAK 45): (22:52) When you make an effort and the joy does not come and the situation just gets worse, can this be a sign that we did a wrong action?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Can we think that now it is terrible, but it will be better? Or is that incorrect?

M. Laitman: It's incorrect.

Question (W MAK 23): (23:26) “Within reason, there are always views that are opposite from Kedusha, but we need to believe above reason that it is a land flowing with milk and honey”. What does it mean that there's an opinion that is opposite to Kedusha?

M. Laitman: That there are always two opinions, and you need to choose which one to relate to.

Question (W SPA): (24:02) What is the spiritual meaning of raising our feet from the ground when we dance in the context of the vitality of Kedusha?

M. Laitman: We don't want to be connected to this world but rather to truly be up in the air.

Question (W French): (24:38) A few days ago, during the morning lesson, a student asked a question and then another student continued. Then you gave us an exercise which is where one of the friends in the Ten turns to the Ten like a representative towards the Creator all day long, and the whole Ten asks for him. And now a friend has asked about this exercise whether we can pray for a friend that even left the Ten. Is the exercise that one of the friends in the Ten today is performing this connection with the Creator, and the essence of the exercise is that each of us will experience that experience, to connect the Ten with the Creator and be responsible? So, how can a person who left the Ten connect his Ten with the Creator? If he altogether left, I didn't quite understand.

M. Laitman: No, we're talking about those people that are still with us together in our Tens.

Student: Meaning this exercise can be done by those who participate in the Ten?

M. Laitman: Only, yes.

Question (W MAK): (26:22) When we know before who we're standing and who we're working for, and that feeling of joy is not like this being giddy. It's a serious joy. Is that something that's possible?

M. Laitman: Of course. It's even better.

Student: But this serious joy is really like gratitude for belonging, for Him bringing me closer to my Ten, to him. It's not that I'm laughing all the time. It's a serious joy. It's a responsible joy.

M. Laitman: Yes, that's precisely what it needs to be.

Question (Novosibirsk): (27:28) Many times we hear that a friend says: I have to resolve a certain problem, I have a problem, I can't participate, I can't invest in something. How do you work with this? I can't?

M. Laitman: We will help you. That's it.

Student: So, we need to say to him oh, we'll help you, help you, or...

M. Laitman: Yes, precisely. We will do all that's needed for everyone, and for you too we will do. There's nothing too bad in this, because when you're helping him, you're actually helping yourself. So, there's nothing to think that it's not you or him, about the fact that you're taking some work from him, or that you're pushing him or something, no. It is all completely coming from the quality of bestowal.

Question (W Rehovot 1): (28:51) We have many who are depressed. Many don't want to be in this current state. They even said to be in this world is the worst, that feeling, that thought. So, there's a solution either in spirituality or in the Ten where one helps another or a pharmacological solution. Do you recommend using that?

M. Laitman: Nothing, not pharmacological and not physiological or anything else. Rather, we have the solution which is very simple. That we together, all of us turn to the Creator and ask Him to raise us towards Him, and then we will feel that we're living in the upper world with Him, and here cannot be anything bad but rather only good.

Question (W MAK 51): (30:20) Yesterday when we talked about the state of joy, you said that it is a result of the exertion. Here, it actually is saying about joy in all the states. This joy that it's talking about in the article, do we feel it when we are already in the spiritual degrees?

M. Laitman: Even before the spiritual degrees.

Student: Before we enter the spiritual degrees we mostly feel opposite. We feel sorrow, and we are before a choice. When we make this inner choice with the appeal to the Creator, then the Creator gives as a result of that the joy, but how do we reach this joy when we are already in a state of descent?

M. Laitman: Think about the correct state in which the Creator raises you, connect with Him, feel how He embraces you and holds you on His hands like a soft newborn, and the students adhere to Him and that's where you have all the joy from.

Student: When a friend distances, she leaves. She doesn't participate, not in the meetings, not in the lessons, and she makes a decision to take a break. Sometimes she doesn't even announce it. Sometimes we don't even know what state she's in. What's the correct internal state? Do we need to be sorry about it and pray from this sorrow, or to accept her decision and simply move forward and concentrate on the friends that are following the path?

M. Laitman: You cannot choose what you feel; we will do this way or that way. It's your feeling. The fact that she's leaving or distancing is not something that we can define, but we need, between us, to be together in such a connection, specifically when someone leaves the group. Whereas we fill the lack of that friend, male or female, in such a way that we try to feel a precise form that was given to us, and we now want between us not to feel this, and then you'll see what's happening with her and with you and all together with everyone.

Student: If, let's say, when a person is distancing you feel a certain humiliation towards him. Is that joy on my path?

M. Laitman: Yes, of course.

Student: How do we work with it?

M. Laitman: To work with it is a very simple way. You need, with all your might, to bring that person closer to you to your Ten.

Student: How to do that, with actions or somehow internally?

M. Laitman: Only in thought.

Question (English 1): (34:57) How can we help the friends have faith above reason, so they too can feel the joy as well?

M. Laitman: Bring them closer to you, and with them make a few lessons or discussions in which you want to bring them closer to you and to this topic of faith above reason.

Question (W Kavkaz 1): (36:08) About the work in joy. You said there's a state of middle, of half-heart, that I need to engage in bestowal towards others. So, it turns out that my entire heart is just when I go outwards towards a friend, not when I receive him into me?

M. Laitman: That's not important. You can scrutinize that later. It's not so terrible.

Student: And there needs to be joy somewhere in this place and I'm searching for it?

M. Laitman: Search for the joy and the connection with the friends.

Question (W MAK 25): (37:04) At the beginning of the lesson, you explained about the dance, the exchanging of states. Is it correct to say that joy is permanent above the different states?

M. Laitman: No.

Question (W MAK 36): (37:28) What scrutiny does a person do in order to understand what form of reason he's in?

M. Laitman: You don't need that. The main thing is for you to try to connect to the Creator and to be in joy in that.

Student: I’m asking because you answered one of the friends today that she's intensifying the efforts and the joy doesn't come. So, you said that we need to understand what form you're in. I never heard of such a thing that there are different forms of reason.

M. Laitman: Stop thinking about it. I didn't say it correctly.

Question (MAK 11): (38:31) King David writes in Psalms to search for the face of the Creator. Is that called to seek joy?

M. Laitman: That's to seek the revelation of the Creator, but that's not about joy.

Student: It's something else?

M. Laitman: That's more than joy.

Question (W SPA): (39:08) From where does this dishonesty in the work come? Is it as a result of a distance between us?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: How do we help in the Ten or see a friend that has a problem with it?

M. Laitman: We need to come closer to one another and get closer to the Creator. That covers all the difficulties.

Question (W French): (40:17) We’re trying to do an action together in the Ten. Is it

enough for each person to do the same deed that the Ten said to do or do we need this action to be when we're at the same time together, whether in Zoom or in the chat, or in thought?

M. Laitman: It's not important. It doesn't have to be a physical relationship.

Student: If we want to support a friend through thought for the sake of the matter, then as long as each thinks about how to help the friend, that's considered together, yes?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (W Moscow 6): (41:24) It was written in most sources that the glory of the king is in the multitude of the people. How can a Ten include the world group in their prayer to increase the joy of the Creator?

M. Laitman: In your intentions, and that's it. No more than that is necessary.

Question (W MAK 97): (41:51) Would it be correct to say that if the ascents and descents change like movements in a dance so fast, that's a sign for joy to come closer?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (W Ukraine 2): (42:13) If the Creator sends a state of suffering, despair, sadness, but there's a feeling that I refuse, that I’m truly yearning for connection. Is that happiness good to overcome sadness?

M. Laitman: Try if it succeeds, but if it doesn't succeed, you should not stay in that state. You have to quickly change your state, and to delight.

Question (Turkiye 2): (43:03) How can I dance like a whale in this sea of the Creator? How can I feel His love? And how can I hear these unique melodies of His?

M. Laitman: Those are two very difficult questions. How can you dance in the sea as the Creator fills it? That's only by opening yourself to all these waters of the sea, so that they will love you and work through you.

Question (Hadera 1): (44:00) What's the difference between two servants of the Creator that seemingly both put forth the same quantitative effort, but one of them based on the manner in which the Creator made him get joy and is happy, and the second is not happy? What's the main difference?

M. Laitman: The main one is that when someone is in joy, he's closer to the Creator, and whoever is in sadness is distant from the Creator.

Question (Moscow 4): (44:53) Can we be in true joy and dance without revelation of the Creator when we're in the darkness?

M. Laitman: I don't see anyone who's in the darkness.

Student: I see the world as completely not corrected. I'm not sure how you can be happy and rejoice and dance and sing.

M. Laitman: I don't think that you see it completely corrupted. It just seems to you that way.

Question (W MAK 19): (45:50) At the end of the article, it's written that that which is preached is not as much as that which is standing. Rather, the ascents and descents change rapidly, so there's no time when the joy goes away. How can the ascents and descents be in a quick pace and be in joy?

M. Laitman: Here, you need to be responsible for the spirit, the mood in the Ten, and then you'll attain a lot.

Question (W MAK 19): (46:29) My whole group is responsible to the distancing of this friend, and that feeling influences me as well. How can I bestow or influence myself and my friends from the group where this feeling of disappointment is felt?

M. Laitman: You have to do exercises with yourself. Enter a room once in an hour or two and start singing and reading. After two hours again, another two hours again, and that's how you'll get accustomed to it.

Question (MAK 24): (47:36) Why can the increasing yearning be felt not as joy? Where is this transitionary feeling from the feeling of the Creator to the feeling of being in joy with Him?

M. Laitman: Because the intensifying of the exertion makes you feel this way, and the goal here is in accordance with your yearnings, it therefore raises in you a feeling of yearning.

Question (W Moscow 8): (48:19) You just answered one of the friends so nicely about the sea water that washes us. The sea waters are actually my forces?

M. Laitman: Well, it's one force.

Student: What does this force do?

M. Laitman: The light of Hassadim.

Question (W MAK): (48:47) If we see that the initial excitement from the study has calmed down, and it appears to us like, okay, that we're now calmer, can we demand from one another the innovation of our efforts, or do we only do so regularly?

M. Laitman: It’s better to do so with a personal example.

Question (W MAK): (49:18) How does a person who the Creator holds on his hands broadcast joy to the world?

M. Laitman: Try to depict yourself like this and to pass it along.

Question (W French): (49:39) We hear that we need to feel joy towards the Creator, but what do we really need to do in order to overcome this gap between what we hear that we need to do and to actually feel it?

M. Laitman: That's why we simply need to automatically raise the spirits, the mood.

Student: To myself?

M. Laitman: To yourself, and through you, to others.

Student: And what does this give?

M. Laitman: Try.

Question (W SPA): (50:23) In the article, he talks about the spies that went to the lands to see if it's worthwhile to exert in it, in order to be rewarded with the land of milk and honey. What exactly is the land of milk and honey? Why is this considered a blessing from above, and how do we understand it correctly?

M. Laitman: The desire in a person is called Eretz [land], and if this land is filled with honey and milk, then it's considered that he's in the land of Israel.

Question (W Almaty): (51:29) In the Ten, we made a decision that we will not disperse until we feel true joy. Is that the correct decision? And is this possible to feel joy non-stop in the Ten?

M. Laitman: It's possible and desirable.

Question (W MAK 25): (52:07) Do we need all kinds of states, not just from joy, to learn to come to the state of joy?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And are all the means in play? Like you said, Rabash would dance and sing.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (W Hebrew 2): (52:34) On one hand, we learn how important it is to be in joy. On the other hand, it seems many times that advancement is through sorrow, through a deficiency, prayers, requests. How does the joy not distance us each time?

M. Laitman: There's no such thing. It's a sign that you're not thinking correctly, or you're not feeling correctly.

Student: How do we hold on to these two states together?

M. Laitman: You need to hold on only to one state, that you're holding on to the joy and the connection with the friends, and there within, in this joy and connection with the friends, you come closer to getting to know the Creator.

Student: And how do we come to this true outcry to the Creator?

M. Laitman: I'm telling you now, you just have to hold on to your friends and the Creator.

Question (MAK 11): (53:51) You said that the revelation of the Creator is a state that's higher than joy. So, joy is some kind of intermediate stage from this state to the revelation of the Creator?

M. Laitman: It would be best if you note the revelation of the Creator, and that will bring you joy. That's the order.

Question (W PT 38): (54:33) Can I ask a question about the exercise we had?

M. Laitman: What exercise?

Student: Two days ago, you gave us an exercise every day to think about a different friend, and then the next day, you said we have to stop this exercise. It was truly very powerful, and we really prayed for that friend to succeed. I wanted to ask whether our next degree, meaning we stopped all the time, and what can we do in order to advance in the same power?

M. Laitman: You'll attain that degree that we talked about, and then we'll talk onwards.

Student: So, we continue this exercise, yes?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (W PT 33): (55:33) Does the joy to the Creator depend on my achievements, or does it need to be unconditional or independent?

M. Laitman: The joy needs to be because I'm connected to the Creator, not in the result, but in the actual state that we have.

Question (W ITA): (56:19) When we're dancing, we want to free ourselves from the limitations of the intellect. So, can we allow this to breach out towards that?

M. Laitman: No.

Student: I know that often the mind lies, but the body doesn't. How do we listen to the body in the right way?

M. Laitman: We're learning this, and we've learned it for some the last few lessons.

All the best. I think that you can improve yourselves until tomorrow.

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