Part 2:

Baal HaSulam. Preface to the Wisdom of Kabbalah. (#134)

Reading Headline for items 134 (0:25): “Headline: a great rule concerning the permanent Mochin and the ascents of the Partzufim in the worlds during the six thousand years”

1.S. (00:40) Rav, maybe you can explain the headline: “A great rule concerning the permanent Mochin and the ascents of the Partzufim in the worlds during the six thousand years”.

R. All in all, all the days of the world are 6,000 years, that is how it is divided. Then over the course of the 6,000 years then we have the light that bestows on a constant matter on their reality which is called the constant Mochin and then there are bestowals and influences that depend on time and states and also conditions that we do not know, so we will learn that and thus there is the constant state and the changing state and what’s the connection between theses states. These are the worlds that are in unique relation to one another, the steps, the degree and their fulfillments which is called Mochin and how it influences us that all in all how it brings all creation to the final desired state.

Rav Reading items 134 (02:15): “It has already been explained that the emergence of the Gadlut...”

R. (04:11) Is this clear? No? Then you read it.

Reading Item 134 (04:13): “It has already been explained that the emergence of the Gadlut...”

2. S. (06:16) About the term of permanent Mochin and impermanent Mochin or even from the headline we usually say in Kabbalah that we speak in Kabbalah from the perspective of the Kli, the created being.

R. Okay.

S. and the Kli doesn’t have Mochin in permanence because the Kli has to match the light otherwise there's no light in the Kli, right?

R. There is the constant state and then there are states that can either ascend or descend so here in the meantime he is telling us that the Mochin are constantly in the ascent and the ascents and descents of the Partzufim and it occurs during the course of the 6,000 years; meaning, how over the course of creation meaning all the existence of the worlds and their degrees ascent and descent in order to fill themselves, to correct themselves in order to ultimately connect the worlds together into the Creator

S. So I'm asking if these terms are from the perspective of the Creator or the created being when we're talking about permanent or non-permanent Mochin?

R. According to the sensation of the created being or of the Creator?

S. From the perspective of the Creator he's always giving light so it is not clear why he is saying impermanent and Mochin and from the created being it can’t be impermanence so I'm trying to understand the perspective

R. You are not so clear. Your approach is entirely not suitable to the wisdom of Kabbalah. The permanent and the non-permanent Mochin, the non-permanent Mochin are dependent on the worlds, on their rise and their ascents and descents of the worlds. That this occurs to us by either illumination from above or awakening from below. Yes?

S. Who is the one who feels the permanent or none permanent Mochin that we are talking about?

R. The Partzufim of the worlds, every world includes in it five Partzufim.

S. These Partzufim from our perspective is kind of a filter that either passes down below or not?

R. Who is below that needs to receive from them?

S. Ultimately us, no?

R. Well I don't know, it's not what is written here. Here it writes about the actions of the world's themselves, what occurs to them, what happens, that's it. Raising of MAN, what happens to them, that’s it. 

3. S. (9:30) What is it that Galgalta and Eyneim of Aba Ve Ima connect to the AHP de Keter to ten Sefirot, how is that possible? 

R. AHP de Keter that fall into Abe Ve Ima?

S. Yes.

R. So this, that they have fallen into the Galgalta Eynaim of AVI they are completing the Galgalta Eynaim of AVI to ten Sefirot.

S. intellectually I understand it but how can it be that the AHP of Keter which is a huge degree with huge Kelim of reception deals with the GE of AVI and that there is even some connection between them?

R. There is an upper and lower. How can there not be a connection between them? Where do the lower ones result from, where are they born from and how are they impressed, AVI?

S. This AHP of Keter?

R. They are from the GE of AVI.

S. I understand that but they essentially drive the whole,  they serve like GE themselve, I just don’t understand it. How do the Kelim of the upper one, the Kelim of reception, of the upper one connect to the Kelim of the lower one and they behave together as ten Sefirot?

R. They have fallen, they lost their connection to the degree of Keter and fall to AVI and the upper that falls to the lower one, behaves like the lower one and thus the AHP of Keter connect to GE of AVI and they become together with them as ten Sefirot.

S. I was certain that the one who receives the growth here is GE of AVI.

R. Right, okay, and?

S. And how you described it now is that if the upper one fell to the lower one and became just like it, in short, when the AHP of the upper one is in the GE of the lower one what does it give to the lower one? How does it advance or does it advance the lower one?

R. The upper one descends to the lower one.

S. Yes?

R. It connects with the lower one; afterwards it begins to receive light from above to be filled and to rise together with the lower one.

S. When the ten Sefirot… 

R. Of GE and AHP…

S. Yes, og GE and AHP. Who is the Rosh here? The GE of AVI are the ones that actually run this Partzuf?

R. Yes of course they are the upper ones and they perform the restriction on themselves and fall intentionally to the degree of Keter. Sorry, the AHP of Keter fall to the degree of AVI.

S. With the goal of them bringing them up so there's an intention of the upper one here?

R. Of course otherwise there's no action that occurs.

4. S. (12:57) It writes about two kinds of completing the ten sefirot for the reception of Gatlut and the first kind is rise and incorporation into the upper one, what is this process of its ascent and incorporation into the upper one? The ascent is what fundamentally happens here?

R. That is raises Man and then the upper one begins to work on him to supply him with lights and by these lights he begins to light rise to the degree of the upper one to connect to Him

S. What does it mean that it becomes incorporated in the upper one?

R. Incorporate in the upper one, it completes him with what is necessary.

S. You said that the lower one raises Man?

R. That too.

S. It's insufficient so besides raising MAN what is next?

R. Wait, we still have the second kind of MAN. Let's read onward

S. I'm asking about the first kind, not the second kind. He defines not the first kind as his ascent with incorporation with the upper one, what is it that the lower one incorporates with the upper one? What does the lower one do here?

R. It is incorporated in the upper one and can complete the upper one with what it can complete and the upper one receives additional AHP. Let's read.

Rav Reading again 134 (14:44 -16:34)

R. (16:34) What is not clear? Tell me, slowly, It's not so bad if you don't understand.

5. S. (16:43) We say that there's always the necessary problem that the lower one has to resemble the upper one in order to receive the correction.

R. Let's say, let's say so.

S. Does Adam Kadmon give an impression to Bina in the world of Nekudim, now this feeling does not allow for an opportunity to the next progress to stay in the same state. It's like I would be willing to stay in the same state but something in the Reshimot requires correction and always pushes the upper and lower one to relate to, to interact until there is equivalence of form

R. What are you trying to tell me? What did we just read?

S. I'm trying to ask about.

R. I do not see the connection.

S. The Keter ascend to the GE Eynaim to AVI?

R. Exactly.

S. Now inside AVI there is a feeling that AHP of Keter  does some action towards that?

R. When the upper one descends the lower one of course the lower one feels it.

S. The AHP tries to identify with the state of the lower one to awaken it?

R. Yes.

S. Is that called the first kind?

R. Yes, the first kind.

S. Are their feelings there?

R. Sensations yeah but I know what you mean by sensations.

S. How does it mean that the Sefira feels that you need to do some action?

R. I can't explain that you can't explain that. You have to feel it ,

S. If I understand correctly, we are talking about the essence of the quality, does it feel the non corrected states and tries to make some action towards the upper one in order to receive that Gadlut. If I understood the friend correctly, there's not just mechanics and there's something that keeps evading our perception. How should we relate to these things?

6. S. (19:55) When he writes that the other one rises and becomes incorporated in the upper one, then the lower one becomes like the upper one.There is something here that the lower one is doing and is as if it's adding on to the upper one, becoming incorporating the upperone. What is the lower one doing? He is the lower one? What does he do?

R. He adds himself to the upper one.

S. What does he have to add?

R. He gives himself he passes himself. The GE Eynain of the lower one ascends and is added to the AHP of the upper one.

7. S. (20:48) It seems as though the lower one refines the upper one by activating but his AHP now they have a reason to be activated but it also seems that besides the upper and lower there is another entity born that is built from the GE of the lower one and AHP from the upper one. Something in the middle that is a Partzuf of itself because the connections are clear what the upper one does to the lower one and the lower one connects to the upper but the new entity that's built composed to both of them it feels there's no sense of that, what is that new thing?

R. When there's no sensation can't do anything about that there's no sensation but that there's a new reality that is composed of two.

8. S. (22:06) Before we move on, I still have a question. It says here when the ZON of AK shown the new light what is the ZON of AK?

R. NHY of GE.

S. Is that the light that is the light of a b s a g that comes down below the Tabur?

Because he writes that through theTabur to Keter of Nekudim they shown a new light through the so what is that light that's only comes because it begins the whole entire process basically

R. We haven't learned about the ZON of AK. It is always GE AB.

S. Where is the ZON of AK?

R. I am telling you that ZON of AK is NE of GE.

S. So it's already below the Tabur

R. Yes, below the Tabur.

S. Ok so they ZON of AK shone the new light through the Tabur to Keter of Nekudim . Meaning the light is already there. and they brought and lowered the bottom Hey from Nikvey Eynaim of Keter to its Peh. Who is Peh? and who lowered the Nikvey Eynaim to the Peh?

R. This illumination,this light that they illuminated, this light gives force of bestowal and then descends to the lower Hey from the state it was in. Now they enter a few more Kelim So he tells you,  they '' shone the new light through the Tabur to Keter of Nekudim and lowered the bottom Hey from Nikvey Eynaim of Keter to its Peh. 

S. Thus, the fallen AHP of Keter that were in AVI ascended and returned to their degree in Keter, completing its ten Sefirot.

R. Thank you. The light that comes from above always adds and by it either the Partzuf rises or the Sefirot gather or assemble more. Something occurs that is what he is explaining to us.

9. S. (26:00) It seems that the light that comes from above at the moment is addingthe deficiency to the GE of AVI

R. I did not get you.

S. Let's put it this, now GE Enyaim of AVI want to bestow.but they have no place to bestow no deficiency so it seems that deficiency of the upper one, the AHP of Keter is that they receive new Kli, a deficiency, a place where they can bestow to. Is it correct to see it that way?

R. Where is that written?

S. I wrote that you said the following.

R. That is not proof of what you wrote what I said.

Rav reading #134 “ again

S. I'm asking about the question what does the need to complete.

R. The light that illuminates it either completes the AHP or the new Galgalta Enyaim or connects the Ge with AHP the power of the light is supposed to complete the tense if you're older either the part of them or all of them .

Rav continues reading #134 (27:00) It has already been explained…."

10. S. (29:55) I think it's the same question everyone is asking there is a state and there's the change of the state that light comes and makes a change so let's say the state is GE Enyaim of the lower on is Incorporated in the AHP of the upper one, that's the initial state. Now comes like new light and makes the upper one gives it Gadlut, makes it brighter. Now the upper one connects it's AHP to GE to complete 10 Sefirot .Now what is changing in the relationship towards the lower one? The lower one sticks to the upper one. What does he reveal what's changing in him?

R. If the lower one is close, tight to the upper one, it influences him too.

S. In what way?

R. He rises.

S. Why because the upper one becomes greater?

R. The becomes greater, he is adhere to the upper one,then he needs to increase his adhesion with the upper one and then he rises along with the upper one.

S. But it says what is rising is only the AHP, only GE what about the AHP of lower one? They are not influenced by that?

R. No, not yet.

S. What kind of wholeness that the lower one receives from the upper one becoming great?

R. That it eliminates in its GE.

S. What does it mean? What change is happening in him?

R. That he's adhered in the upper one at least.

S. What does he feel that he adds to the upper one by that?

R. He receives Gadlut greatness from the upper one.

S. Yes but what does he add to the upper one by staying close to it?

R. He adds to the upper one the desires, the intentions, his desires, his coarseness, his desires. The lower one adheres to the upper one, obligates the upper one to receive greater light.

S. So it's not just annulment like the upper one like before?

R. That he announced himself to the upper one that's his work but what he's giving, adding to the upper one. He is adding to the upper one.and the upper one must then work on the desire of the lower one. Nothing you can do is like an impregnated woman and so on. These things that every lower one in such a manner is Incorporated in the upper one.

11. S. (33:09) How does he add his heaviness?

R. He sticks to him, he adheres to him, he annuls hinself with respect to the upper one and the upper one needs to then do the work to the lower one. This is what we do with respect to the Creator, This that we annuls ourselves we adhere to the Creator and give him the opportunity to work on us. Slowly, gradually.

12. S. (34:10) Is there a difference in the relationship between AHP and GE before AHP rises? 

Is there a relationship between GE of the lower one to AVI, does it change when the AHP changes as it rises?

R. .Of course and then it illuminates more to GE and AVI usually and then usually and they can also annual, cancel, conceive themselves and rise along with them in adhesion to them.

S. The adhesion there is between theGE and AVI to AHP of Keter doesn't mean, who is bestows to who in this relationship? 

R. It depends on what action.

S. Say when AHP is falling GE Eynaim of AVI bestows to AHP of Keter?

R. Of course they are incorporated in the AHP of Keter it begins to work on them.

S. The relationship is still that the AHP of Keter work on the Galgalta and when they rise?

R. They are Incorporated in the AHP of Keter and rise along with them and then they receive what's called their first impregnation.

S. This is what I don't understand is that changing, the relationship is still kept between the upper and the lower. It doesn't matter,of if, when ZON of AK shone the new light through the Tabur to Keter of Nekudim and lowered the bottom Hey from Nikvey Eynaim of Keter to its Peh. Thus, the fallen AHP of Keter that were in AVI ascended and returned to their degree in Keter, completing its ten Sefirot. Is still bestow AVI … Galgalta receive from AHP of Keter?

R. It's not the same thing.

S. What's changing there?

R. He enters impregnation, Ibur.

S. If they are bonded with AHP so how do they even identify this change, this ascent?

R. The question is , what is called adhered and to what are they adhered? Is it that they're similar to one another and they do together ten Sefirot and each one is incorporated in the other one or only the lower one is incorporated in the upper one, that's the difference.

S. So the first kind of Mochin of Gadlut what kind of adhesion is that? That they are 10 Sefirot What exactly are the Mochin of Gadlut ? What does it mean?

R. Mochin of Gadlut is what he calls here; they have the whole 10 Sefirot and they can raise MAN and invite coupling on the Mochin of Gadlut on the whole ten Sefirot.

S. Inside this thin Sefirot there's an order of GE of AHP?

R. Yes, of course.

S. Who is considered Galgalta Eynaim? Is the AHP of Keter the GE of these ten Sefirot?

R. No, there could be, it depends on what Partzuf we're talking about. There could be a whole structure, complete structure of the upper one and the lower one and everything that occurs between them in connection. It can be also that AHP is divided such into 3/3. I can't say that, it all depends on the process of how you are go through it.

S. And Mochin of Gadlut that he describes here, does it relate to that kind of arrangement or all the forms are included in the first Mochin?

R. We will see soon we'll see soon you guys want to swallow everything otherwise it won't be clear in the small parts I understand sometimes there is such a problem

13. S. (39:15) The lower one that rises to the upper one becomes like it, It says. What does it mean that the lower one rises?

R. That the lower one rises that he is in the same screen/Masach as the upper one.

S. But the action itself, what does it mean that he rises?

R. He receives a Masach like the upper one.

S. He receives it, so why does it write that he makes an active action? What did he do to receive that?

R. Raising MAN, concessions on his will to receive, he did something.

14.S. (40:03) The term Gadlut is named after the Gadlut of the upper one that the lower Hey went from the Nikvey Eynaim back to Peh? Also the Gadlut of the lower one that attached to the AHP of Keter itself, or it's all about what is the Gadlut?

R. Gadlut/adulthood is called on account that the lower one now rises to the upper one and awakens him to be in Gadlut in adulthood.

S. The Gadlut is because the upper one is now in Gadlut? It's not because Galgalta Eynaim of the lower one attached the AHP of Keter to themselves and built ten Sefirot?

R. That could be too.

S. Why after the AHP of the upper one fell into the Galgalta Eynaim of the lower one, why do we need now another light, like he said an additional light came and then they can build on themselves the ten Sefirot, the AHP of the upper one and the Galgalta Eynaim of the lower one.

R. It’s a difference between joining the upper one and completing with ten Sefirot or that he himself to be in ten Sefirot. In which state are you asking about?

S. I'm asking, after the AHP of the upper one fell to the Galgalta Eynaim of the lower one there's already some connection between them, right?

R. Yes, but in Katnut.

S. How?

R. The upper AHP fell to the upper Galgalta Eynaim of the lower one. What’s next?

S. The additional light, what does it add to Galgalta Eynaim of the lower one and AHP of Keter?

R. The additional light gives forces.

S. It transforms the Galgalta Enyaim of the lower one to Keter toward the AHP of the upper one? That’s the change?

R. Not to Keter. He gives forces to the Galgalta Enyaim of the lower tone to connect to the upper one. 

S. What is the difference when AHP of the upper one is fallen in the Keter of the lower one and then an additional light comes, now the state between them what is it?

R. It connects, connects them together.

S. Before that they were not connected?

R. They were not connected but now they complete one another.

S. It's a single Partzuf?

R. Right.

Reading Item #135 (43:18)

15. R. (47:37) What are we talking about here? We are talking about the ZAT of Nekudim receiving Gadlut, Gadlut of the first kind and Gadlut of the second kind, yes? What degree about the Gadlut of the first kind, it’s the completion of the ten Sefirot in the Mochin of Gadlut. What happened in the first kind, who can say?

S. (48:18) Maybe we can describe it like four phases of direct light, that first there is illumination from above and then second kind of yearning from below?

R. You're saying something but need to be more precise.

S. The first kind the temptation comes from the upper one to the Galgalta Eynaim of the lower one and the second kind is over the yearning from the Galgalta Eynaim, for the …….  to adhere and be incorporated in the AHP of the upper one and then it becomes like a whole connection between both. It's like this flirt, this mutual flirt, that there is love of the upper one that raises the lower one brings it closer and forms a lack and they truly become as one. It is full of emotion, all of this incorporation.

R. You all want to answer or ask?

S. Ask to see if I understand correctly.

R. No, we're all clarifying this right now.

Reading Item #134 (49:57) “It has already been explained….”

16. R. (52:00) Okay what happened here? That the light shines through the Tabur to the Nekudim. What is happening there? AB of Ima and Keter what is happening to them? Please.

S. (52:36) Actually it's describing here a process of reception of Gadlut, …… of the first kind and Keter of Nekudim then AB of Ima of Nekudim but the process of Gadlut that he describes here sounds the same in both, the first time inside Partzuf Keter and the second time in the Partzuf of AB of Ima so why is separating it into two different Gadlut? It’s degrees, the first kind and the second kind so what’s the difference?

R. Different light, different forces. Either you correct the degree of Keter or the degree of AB of Ima.

S. It's like that descended from below, right?

R. Depends what light.

S. It's not the same light that made both Gadlut?

R. No, it's not one light. It can't be the same like that corrects the Galgalta Eneyim of Keter and Gagalta Eneyim of AB of Ima.

17. S. (54:05) The first kind the AHP of Keter descended to AB of Ima and completed the ten Sefirot, the second kind it’s the AHP of AB of Ima that rose, it is like the whole correction, right?

R. I don't want questions, I want that everyone will understand where we are. Can someone explain to me what is happening here, what is he talking about?

18. S. (54:54) I think the key the whole matter from there I understand that there are two kinds for the reception of Gadlut of Mochin, so the state he wants to reach he can't receive all the light because it's in Katnut so he needs to receive all the light and for this he needs to reach Gadlut/adulthood. Baal HaSulam tells us it comes in two stages, right, first stage its upper one receives light in illumination from Tabur and then it urges, draws the AHP of the lower one to the Keter of the upper one Keter, and Keter and the lower one to the Keter of the upper one and after comes the light of Yesod, and then the lower one itself receives adulthood without any connection to the upper one because it got illumination, so we see how the Creator is moving the system, one time He’s illuminating to the upper one to raise the lower one then afterwards He’s illuminating the lower one, and that’s how he reaches adulthood.

R. Well said, what do you want to add?

19. S. (56:10) Can we say that the upper one first shows to the lower one the degree and then lowers him and then in the second kind he already had the yearning of the lower one to rise to the upper one?

R. Yes good, good addition.

20. S. (56:35) Maybe we can add more, that in the first kind the correction is on the pure vessels of Keter and the second kind the correction is on coarser vessels, the AHP of AB of Ima which is already a bigger connection?

R. Yes, it's also true.

21. S. (57:03) Can we say that it's realizing what he learned from the first kind, the lower one?

R. Yes there is something to that, let's say so.

22. S. (57:30) Baal HaSulam describes here a very smart rule the more the lower one annuls to the upper one and to the same extent it grows and becomes like it according to the rule of equivalence of form and there's nothing more than light and vessel and equivalence between them by love. L’Chaim friends, L’Chaim.

23. S. (58:12) Can we say in the first kind the Rosh receives adulthood and the second kind that the Guf the body receives the adulthood Gadlut?

R. You can say it to some extent, yes.

24. S. (58:31) According to what I understand Baal HaSulam explains the through Galgalta Eynaim of Abe Ve Ima when they actually adhere to the upper one and rise with it it's Gadlut of the first kind after they rose and they have force the power they can draw the AHP which is the Gadlut of the second kind?

R. Correct.

25. S. (59:25) Continual what was just said, so actually all that BaalHaSulam shows us this is the  Galgalta Eynaim of Abe Ve Ima is the correct for all the degrees every intermediary degree works like this. It has the lower one and  the upper one and this is formal of work, at first there is Katnut childhood and incorporation that rising the reception of Gadlut of the first kind and then drawing its more foundational elements to the second kind?

R. Yes.

26. S. (59:59) Two questions please, one regarding what we're learning now and the second what we learned in the beginning. The topic of what the lower one gives to the upper one is the same lack he was talking about the heaviness, intentions it is a lack that obligates the upper one to receive more light, is that the state in this completes the upper one?

R. Yes.

S. Second question you indicated that permanent light that it constantly operates, so these permanent lights they're not, are they not the surrounding light that they don't actually enter the Partzuf?

R. This I don't know, this is not written.

27. S. (01:00:55) It said in the beginning that there is three sequences by the way of three dots Halom, Shuruk, Hirik so that all begins in this Katnut where the light is above the vessel, it continues to Gadlut that the light is in the vessel and then when it's below there's a vessel of shattering. It's like this whole process here of Katnut, Gadlut and shattering that's seems to be indicated here and in every process you see here connection between the upper one the lower one and illumination and adhesion how each one operate the other one?

R. All right. I don't really see anyone else who wants to add something good.

28. S. (01:02:02) At the end of 135, he completes something here by the first kind he didn't explain before It didn't mentioned before that the AHP of Aba Ve Ima by incorporation in Keter received an elimination of their AHP, so the Gadlut of the first kind caused Galgalta Enyeim of the Abe Ve Ima to receive it’s elimination to their own AHP. It's the first stage before they can connect to one another?

R. Yes

S. So my question is it's like we first learned what we learned before about dressings it's a process here?

R. There are many actions that are not discussed here in order to come to connection, correction each and everyone has to prepare himself many times many times over.

S. Actually Galgalta Enyaim of AVI were truely disconnected from AHP until the Gadlut of the first kind that they finally got some elimination and understood what this AHP is and then the light came and they could connect?

R. Yes.

29.S. (01:03:28) Can we say that the elimination that comes from Tabur influences vessel of bestowal? The NHY and Yesod to vessel of reception?

R. There is something to it but does it actually divide that way? No.

30. S. (01:03:58) According to what I understood the most important thing here is the connection between the upper one and lower one and how they reach adhesion and thanks to the upper one that the Galgalta Enyaim move to the lower one receive the completion by the AHP of the upper one and the connection is formed between them in this matter, The connection and the lower one is the Gaglalta Enyaim of the upper one that's half in the upper one that’s how they reach adhesion that's the most important thing and we could practically do this in the Ten?

R. There is something to this, yes.

31. S. (01:04:52) Galgalta Enyaim is Rosh, AHP is Guf and the Gadlut of the first kind could it be the …?

R. Maybe maybe it could be.

S. So this is the Gadlut of the first kind?
R. Yes.

S. I was very impressed by the first article from Rabash that we read and it seems to me, it seems to me that there is direct connection between what we're learning now in Pticha and what we read there earlier because that when there is a transition between steps two and three that it's repentance from Fear that is similar to the Gadlut of the first kind that there’s direction of like seemingly bestow on attached to the bestow and then once there's the transition to repentance from love that would be the Gadult the second kind that it itself correct that means true correction of AHP

R. Yes, there is something to that.

32. S. (01:06:24) What is special about the points that can be under the Parsa above or below Tabur?

R. Deficiencies, deficiencies.

S. But there are always deficiencies? So, to be only between Parsa and Tabur?

R. Between Parsa to theTabur, we usually don't study these such discernments.

33. S. (01:07:10) We learned a bit of how the lower one rises to the upper one becomes like him and this manner Abba and Ima received their AHP, we’r talking a lot about this who pushed, who urged the Galgalta Enyaim of the lower one to rise above why should he rise to the upper one? what pushes it to?

R. The Reshimot.

S. Okay and how Reshimot build this push the upper one?

R. But the Reshimot do it all. Reshimot, the light shines from above and awakens them to want things.

S. So how does it build the upper one? How does he make equivalence of form with the upper one by what manner, by what means?

R. What exactly are you talking about sir?

S. For the lower one to rise to the upper one it needs a screen, right? So how do they build that screen, how does he do this work to build the screen to rise in adhere to the upper one?

R. The will to receive that understands that adhering to the upper one means bestowing to the upper one transforms himself in order to bestow, clings to the deficiencies of the upper one and realizes them.

S. That's exactly it was missing and it was hard for me to define before. Also, there is a very interesting title here he talks about only that 2,000 years this a ruler of the rising Mochin, I dont’ understand what is he reading from, it is as if in these two years there were things that operated and now they aren't?

R. It's not 2,000 years on the calendar that's on your wall.

S. Right, what does it mean?

R. These are periods in which the Kli goes through such changes corrections and it's not related to our time and also to our world.

S. Where does it belong, what does the connection here?

R. When you get sometimes you will understand.

S. To the end of correction?

R. Possibly.

34. S. (01:09:50) How do we adhere to the upper one to the Keter of the upper one?

R. Keter of the upper one?

S. Yes, we learned about how the 10 Sefirot connect to the Keter?

R. No, we can't connect to the Keter of the upper one, we don't know any discernments in the Keter of the upper one. It is a complete secret for us.

S. So what are we connecting to the upper degree?

R. Malchut of the upper one Malchut of Heaven is it called.

S. What we read here that it is either completes itself or rises to the upper one and completes itself in the 10 Sefirot of Keter, the upper one?

R. There are several stages here, several degrees the Partzuf needs to nullify before the upper one and it's annulment it has to reach the state where it seems as zero in such a way it becomes an embryo, the upper one receives him, swallows him, and begins to grow him within himself meaning he gives the lower one various illuminations and if the lower one is capable of annulling himself towards these lights that the upper one Shines on him by that he grows his, Masach grows and he himself grows, his desire to bestow essentially grows. And that is how he comes through degree where he is included in the upper one when he is included in the upper one by nullifying himself completely, it becomes the month of pregnancy where he grows and grows and grows in the upper one gives him more and more and more light that reforms. So in such a way he grows until he goes through seven or nine or 12 months and then he flips first, he was with his head up and now he flips so that his head is down and that is an indication that the upper one is pushing him out, and when he pushes him out then he is born. And by that he continues to exist outside the upper one so is cut off from the upper one by the umbilical cord and that is it.

S. How to do such that Ten can be as the connected vessele that can be swallowed by the upper degree like that?

R. By nullifying ourselves each one towards the other we ultimately nullify ourselves towards the upper and then the upper one can elevate us to higher and higher degrees inside itself until we come to 9 Sefirot and in the 10th Sefira, we are born.

S. And in this state that the upper one swallows us into itself what does it mean the upper one exit this state, is the state of our Arvut, the connection?

R. We are incorporating in the upper one, we nullify each ourselves towards each other, and this way we all nullify towards the upper one and that's is what is happening to us. The annulment towards the upper one is what is really advancing us.

35. S. (01:15:55) At what stage does the change of nature occur when the upper one pulls it outward?

R. When the lower one that is inside the upper one moves his head downwards as the whole time he grows in the upper one his head is up inside the upper one when birth comes then he flips, his head moves down and he moves towards the exit from the upper one and awakens in the upper one forces so that the upper one pushes him out, that is what we see that happens.

S. So the lower one itself flips?

R. The lower one himself awakens the upper one to flip him and rearrange him and we can’t say this belongs to the other one or the lower one it is a reciprocal mutual work between them. That is why there are weakness of birth and other many things but ultimately, it all happens in a state that the lower one awakens the upper one.

S. What should we pay attention to in this stage so that the lower one the upper one repoped the lower one who flips himself? What should we pay attention to?

R. That's I can't really answer this easily but, a lot there's a lot written about in TES, that the lower one causes contractions in the upper one and he flips himself from head to toe, and he starts entering the exits from the upper one and in such a way he prepares himself for the exit and this activates many changes in the upper one and in the incorporation and hormones and many things and that's it until the the labor pains, contractions begin, that the upper one can't keep holding on to the lower one this way and he puts pressure on it. Okay, everything is organized in nature.