A New Life

Conversations About the New World of Work

Conversation 107

Conversation with Dr. Michael Laitman, December 5th, 2012 – After Editing

Oren: Hello and welcome to “A New Life,” a series of conversations with Dr. Michael Laitman. Hello, Dr. Laitman.

Hello.

Oren: Hello, Nitzah Mazoz.

Hello.

Oren: We are happy you have joined us; we are talking about the new world of work, organizations, companies, workplaces, and trying to learn from Dr. Laitman, who is presenting the integral approach to the new world of work, how it is possible to take ourselves, the organizations in which we work, our lives in general, to a better place, how it is possible to build a new life for ourselves.

In our last conversation we imagined a situation in which we are at a gathering of Human Relations managers, people who play a role in training and development in organizations, and you are invited to present the integral approach to the new world of work at this gathering, and there were questions we would like to answer from that place. Nitzah and I will represent of the interviewers at the gathering, you take the place of the representative of the integral approach to the new world of work. Thus, through the questions and answers you give, we would like to explain this approach to the audience of Human Relations managers and why it is worthwhile today in the developing world of organizations.

Nitzah: Perhaps we should recall that in the previous meeting, you talked about the benefits of the organization, and now we would like to focus a little on the benefits for the individual, for the worker within the organization. What is the benefit to him from this approach?

First of all, the person in our world is miserable. He is in despair; he does not know how to get along in the world and feels very isolated. On the one hand, he wants to be alone; on the other hand, he is very much in need of warmth and support. He does not know how to get along in the big world. He sticks to the workplace, watches television advertising all kinds of things, tries to learn how to behave from it and accordingly carries himself in such a complicated and complex world.

He does not know how to build a family. He does not know how to build his relationships with others. All his connections are through text messages and the entire world is through the television screen and the computer. He hides in his niche, hence, everyone needs “my car, my apartment, and for everything to be near me. I have a refrigerator, I have a microwave, I have a washing machine, everything, and I need to be organized, for me to live as in a bunker, like in some isolated cell.”

On the one hand, although it is like a prison, on the other hand it is the safest place and we have no choice, but to agree to it. The individual is pressured from the collective society; he is constantly under pressure, when he drives to work five kilometers an hour, with so many cars surrounding him and everyone is like him, everyone radiates such an approach on the other, and from day to day this approach increases more and more throughout the entire world. When he is alone at home, although he has a family, he does not feel the connection with his family that much: problems, obligations, debts at the bank, overdraft and so on. He is also very threatened by the development of the world. For if it were normal and that was how he got along with his family, started to work, began life, bore children, was in a family, completed his life going to the cemetery, then okay. But now the big world has entered his cell and has truly begun to undermine his life with difficult questions about the end of the world. For, from today to tomorrow, he could be fired. Tomorrow, there could be war and the end of the world would arrive, and many more such things.

That means, it seems that the world itself is beginning to shake. It is not as if he is in a permanent, secure state, and even if I have my corner, that is enough, then somehow within my corner I can paint my life with something small, with drugs, with all kinds of things, yet now the foundations of the world are actually beginning to be felt as an incessant earthquake, in all kinds of directions and ways.

Thus, the individual does not know how to relate to life. He is under great tension, he cannot put his entire soul in his work, he still has many problems and frustrations and pressures and he is in despair, in illness and we know how much his output is truly decreasing almost to zero. He comes and does what they want from him, playing it out more correctly. We see how much he is afraid of losing his workplace. He cannot do any more. If we were to replace him with someone else, it would be the same thing. As managers, we see it that way, therefore we are very concerned.

In addition, we, the managers, if we want to develop, it is obvious that our connection with all the companies and with the world is not clear to us, what will happen from today to tomorrow. We do not exactly have the correct feeling of the future. Here we do understand, the managers say, that what you recommend is essentially to raise the person to the level of the changes happening today in the world, the country, in human society, the family and everywhere. For this arriving integral world which is being born out of our world is presenting itself to us with a new perception, paradigm, and in general, there are different relationships and new connections amongst the nations and amongst people.

Oren: Organizations.

All this is something actual. It is essentially what we are doing. Meaning, we are beginning the recovery of the situation from the individual person. Everyone in the society must undergo this, not the production workers and not the managers and not the one in contact with the suppliers, rather everyone, including the highest, all levels. The factory is becoming adapted to the new model of the integral world. That is how we should see your factory.

Accordingly, we examine the relationships in families, child education. For everything to acquire a truly, integral form, and for that worker who comes-he comes from a nice, normal family, to a nice, normal workplace, with everyone together, knowing how and where we are advancing. Hence, the change is within the individual, in each and every person who is physically situated in a society, or who is present because he is connected to those physically situated here in the workplace. That is how it should be.

Why are we emphasizing these things and perhaps it was not worthwhile to open the question so broadly in order to reach the decision, if we are truly qualified to perform this reorganization within the organization. Particularly, due to the integral approach, we are certain we can change the entire organization for the good, in accordance with the world. Hence, after this change we will proceed to advance, and each time along with the world advancement, we will also advance with it. We will actually be the ones with the honor of participating correctly with everything taking place in the world.

We will not be behind. We will not enter into a state in which we do not understand what is happening and suddenly we have some unpleasant surprises from all kinds of places from our business partners. Therefore, these changes must be in the entire factory in general, and they must continue. Our organization, when it starts the work, first begins the learning in order to apply all these things within every person, to see how they are applied after that within the connection amongst people, within the factory itself.

It could be that as a result, there will be changes to production and to the external connections of your factory, that is clear, but we will need to continue our work; our partnership is essentially a permanent one over time, because we constantly need to adapt ourselves to the advancing world, to a tighter, higher globalization.

I do not want to hide the scope of the work we need to do here.

Oren: What are the benefits to the worker from the integral approach? You depicted a picture with which I identified with very much from the aspect of the difficulties that people feel today, as a worker, as a person in general. In the developing world, a person feel difficulties today, you described that he feels as if he is in some bunker, in internal isolation, and that affects all aspects of his life. So, you have analyzed today's unpleasant state perfectly and I greatly identified with it. I understood that the integral approach will come and take care of all of these deficiencies, all these types of isolation.

Not only that. Perhaps I did not emphasize it, and it is worthwhile adding that it gives each and every person place for development. The individual lacks that, for he not only lives in a bunker and comes to the workplace and what they demand of him he carries out without wanting anything; the main thing is to get through the day and so forth. Here, you come to the place of your blossoming, the place of development. For the integral approach gives you a feeling that the more you develop, the more you develop the environment. The more the environment develops, it draws you toward development. Hence, in such reciprocity, each time you feel like you used to get up in the morning as a child; the way you jumped out of bed and ran outside to the sun.

That is how you should feel even when you have a family, at work, in all kinds of stressful situations. You do not have to feel them; you need to feel that you are in an environment that helps you undergo all your states in a nice, easy way and specifically enjoy them. The company should give you that feeling. Will you come to work like a child jumping out of bed and running to everyone; you jump, run immediately outside to the yard, and look around, “Where are my friends, where are my games?”

That is how this approach should be. As long as the person, the worker, the employee, the manager, whoever, does not come to work like that, as his place of pleasure, the playground, the place of development, we will not have reached what needs to be done, we have not attained the goal. Because he is coming to the place of connection with others. And this place is the correct one; it is basically a place of human development.

What did you have in childhood? The place for connecting with your friends was the playground, and through the correct connection with them you derived pleasure. Perhaps the game itself was not so easy; you climbed, you worked, but you saw it as a challenge. You saw pleasure in it, some nice goal, some participation, one against the other, one for the other and so on.

Why is it called a game and why does it bring pleasure, instead of it being considered difficult work, forced labor, what is the difference? It is like what we see in the Torah. For Pharaoh those are Pithom and Raamses and for the people of Israel those are cities of danger and poverty. That means, everything depends on the approach, on the relationship amongst people. Either you are in a bad, competitive environment, in which you are constantly within limitations, everyone is under pressure, or you are in a friendly society which only helps you, supports you and you, in particular feel expansiveness there.

Oren: I would be very happy if I, as a manager along with all my workers and managers in the organization, we would all come to work like to a playground.

What is the difference? There is no difference between work and a playground.

Oren: Nowadays, I am certain that most of my employees turn off the alarm clock ringing for them again and again in the morning. That is exactly the opposite picture of the child you wake up in the morning, and he gets up with big eyes and goes out to swallow the world, and in the evening you need to convince him to go to sleep because he does not want to, he has engagements, he enjoys life. Most adults I know and even those with the most choice jobs, want the clock to burn in the morning and stop driving them crazy already and in the evening they only want to go to sleep; it is exactly the opposite. Meaning, I identify very much with the described picture; it is very intriguing to me. But I would like you to open it further.

You said there is a key in order to pass from the approach of the adult person, who is suffering and tortured, to a child in the playground. Now I also understood where you want to lead my organization. Defining a very high goal, you want to guide us through a process that will cause a sensation.

The perception of the individual is such that either for him, it is a place of torture or for him; it is a place of pleasure. Everything depends only upon the relationships amongst people in the workplace.

Oren: Why?

Because it does not depend on machines, it does not depend on the weather, it does not depend upon anything in existence. It only depends on people and the relationship amongst them. Either I am in prison, or I am in a guest house, on vacation. Suppose we came to some resort, what is the difference? If it is a prison, it is an isolated place; and if it is a resort? The relationship amongst people.

Oren: What does that mean?

Either there are some who force the others and they feel pressured by them or all of us are on vacation, in friendship, in a good relationship. Work can be as a gift, as a prize. I arrive, I participate with the others. Just like with children, see how they run, what they do, how they use up calories. How much energy they release. I can barely move, I get fat. Everything I eat goes to fat instead of moving like them, why? Because I do not feel benefit in connecting with others. Why don’t we do this, why don’t we make the factory into a playground, a soccer field, a tennis court, all sorts of playgrounds, so we will be together, interacting well with each other?

I do some work, I do not want to see to whom I give it and from whom I receive, I did my part, leave me alone, I want to be separate from everyone. Is that the way? That is already against nature now; consequentially, look at what is happening in the world now. Why are we in bankruptcy? Out of a lack of the correct connection. If the world is integral and we are not adapted to it, we lose. This happens so much that nothing can be done. It is all from the lack of the correct connection amongst people and that is what we are teaching here.

Looking at the whole world and the united Europe, along with all the connections existing between the companies and within the society and within the family - all that does not depend on the individual, rather on the deficient relationships between people. There the person's ego ruins everything, there is unfounded hatred, all the fanatics; it is all there, amongst people.

Therefore we do not need to correct the person himself; that is also what is unique and should be emphasized in our method. We do not come to a person and say, “You are evil, you need to correct yourself,” no, G-d forbid, "You are good, you are perfect, you are totally fine, we love you very much, we respect you very much, you do not need to change anything in yourself, except for one thing, let’s change the relationships amongst us." Do you understand what a new and very unique psychological approach you have here? Just changing the relationships amongst people. Remain with all the characteristics with which you were born and what you acquired from education and today you are somewhere between thirty, forty, fifty, you will remain with that. Your view of life, of the world, everything remains. We are working only on how to connect amongst us. Not to devour each other, not even in thought or desire, because we feel bad from that, that is where all the illnesses come: cancer, hypertension, coronary diseases, diabetes, all kinds of repercussions come only from me constantly being under pressure from the negative thoughts of the environment and I am also that way concerning the environment. My body is constantly in resistance, in collision, in maintenance, in fear of being hurt by others. If we free the relationship amongst us, in an ideal form, just like I feel when I am my mother's arms as an infant, what is so bad? It is everything. Did Mother love me as I am? Yes. So that is it. For her I was the most beautiful, the smartest, the most of everything; that is how we will accept each other. It does not matter to me who you are and what you are, I will accept you as my beloved baby. And you will be that way with me.

Each and every one does not change himself, nothing is necessary. We do not come to violate the person. It is called making him a part of the integral. Then, in such a way he feels everyone, he opens himself to everyone. The child in the family feels himself as the head of the family, the whole house is his. He runs, he does whatever he feels like; he demands and everyone smiles and everyone loves him.

Likewise, everyone toward everyone, and out of this nice relationship with others, I feel how I need to care for them, how they care for me. Then, we reach a different balance, not one in which if I give you a punch, you will give me a punch, and then we keep our distance, no. Rather, on the contrary, the love will now determine the relationships between us, how close we are to each other, how much we are connected to each other. Not from a point of hatred, rather out of love for one another, we begin to build connections. Accordingly, we are already situated in the workplace as one body, for which we do everything; all the plans, everything we carry out, the more we profit, it is all ours, it is a factory, it becomes something close to everyone.

Nitzah: You have now essentially described a state that if we only know how to connect and to communicate correctly amongst us, then everything will change.

“Love covers all transgressions,” above all the evil there is in everyone. We do not deal with that, we connect even though I know, I am a person who sees you truly like an x-ray and I do not care, I relate to you with love, like life within the family. I live together with another person I have known for thirty or forty years, say, I have been with my wife for over forty years already, so what, do we not know each other? How can that be? So that is not important. There is no place for hatred; there is no place for conflict. People understand that there must be love here, connection, mutuality, above all the shortcomings and problems in each and every one. For, we will not change each other; whoever was that way will also remain that way; that is clear and certain. I also see it with the child, why is it written, “Educate a child in his own way?” I cannot change anyone, not even myself; I can only change the relationship amongst people.

If so, I do not make any demands on anyone. That is what follows, it is interesting. I do not make a demand upon my child, “You must change this and that and you are so and so.” He can say to me, “What do you want from me?” And he is right about that. He received from the Reshimot, from all kinds of people, maybe from grandfathers and grandmothers, or from someone from even previous generations. Rather, I have no complaints about any characteristic in him, despite his approach to life, nothing. I only need to teach him how to treat others nicely. Even though within others, as himself, there are only negative characteristics. I do not wait until there will be positive characteristics in a person. I only wait for one thing from him, that above the negative characteristics he will have a good relationship with everyone, as within me.

So each one of us is like a bad box that develops from within good relationships toward others. How can I do that? Through the pressure of the society on me. All of us obligate, everyone teaches me how to be good toward them. That is precisely the mutual Arvut we need to develop. That is all. It is not possible to exist in our world if not in such a way. That is because the evil in us is eternal; we can only build an umbrella of peace and love above it, and that is what I am doing.

Hence, if they say to us, “Are you coming to change the person?” No. I must say upfront, we are not changing the person, we are only changing the approach, we are teaching him how to build relationships amongst people. It is true that everyone is pleased and their ego is pleased. Since, theoretically, everyone would like to be in such a good society, only they do not know how to do it, because then you do not need the police, prisons, blows, fines; no matter what. You are truly in a good world. Although you, as an egoist, remain as you are; never mind, it is not egoistic as you are. You have just become used to, you have become educated to treat others nicely and that is something you also feel from others toward you.

Nitzah: Here, I would like further rational refinement, for, after all, it is true that there is understanding, which also between us, Human Resource managers, and also among the CEOs, for the relationships amongst people are undoubtedly one of the most significant things in an organization; but here you are describing a situation in which is seems to be the only thing.

It is the only thing that can prepare the society, a factory, or a family or the world for the right advancement. It is the infrastructure for the right advancement; there cannot be change without it. Therefore if parts of the world, parts of humanity do not begin to acquire such a form, they will be lost. They will need to acquire such a form only through the recognition of evil. What does that mean? Each one remains as an egoist, yet the relationships amongst all will come to wars, misery, as it is written, to “a person’s enemies will be those of his own household,” and then, after they discover this great evil in the relationships amongst us, in war, misery, problems, in people devouring each other, then they will understand from all the evil that is revealed that they must build loving relationships, relationships of connection above the hatred.

So either we do that through education, with the little evil existing in the meantime, or through wars, in which, people directly devour each other; from the evil and the misery and then it will come through sufferings. However, when we teach them, we essentially reveal all these states to them, the extent to which each and every one is evil, and how much we naturally radiate this evil to everyone nowadays. Only the fear of harm stops us from breaking out with all this evil, each one toward the others. Integral Education does not come to take care of everyone within, rather only to form nice connections amongst us.

So it turns out that the form of humanity is that each one is like a little marble with a small ego, and a minus; and all the connections amongst us are a plus. Then, we are in the system, like the still, the vegetative and the animate; we also build such systems amongst us, in which each one is connected with others, and then we have a complete system. That plus, wherein we relate to each other like in physics, from which we understand that we cannot only be pluses; they repel each other. I, with my plus connect to your minus, because I want to fill you and you, with your plus connect to me and want to fill my minus. Then, in such a way, the system becomes integral, nice, connected. Each one is built so that specifically through all sorts of connections from one to another, and according to how much each one receives from everyone, and gives to everyone; that is how we attain complete harmony.

Our Integral Education directs us to such a structure. It is clear to us from the entire process we discover, within a few decades in human society, that there is no choice, but to adapt ourselves to such a development.

Oren: If you could, I would like for you to expand a bit, you are making a very interesting parallel here regarding war.

The revelation of the bad relationship amongst us.

Oren: Yes. But if you could, I would like you to connect it to what we experience daily as managers in Human Relations. We are very familiar with the processes you are speaking about, which totally hinder all the processes in our organization.

We feel that among the workers within our organization; they are engaged in such wars. You are making a parallel between the wars with which we are familiar within our organization and the development of the entire world in the direction of conflicts and wars. I had a feeling, in your explanation, that you see some parallel between the negative interactions which each of us identifies in his organization and the negative interactions in the world. Then, I liked what you said, "Let’s look forward for a moment." Indeed, it is obvious that the negative interactions in the world can lead us to some general catastrophe, from which everyone will be harmed. In my organization, there is not such a sensation that any such kind of dangerous situation threatens us, such as a war that would annihilate this whole marble with all of humanity.

That means, we are accustomed to having a covert war amongst all the workers, levels, departments and wings. We are not familiar with anything else. I understood very strongly that if the relationships are not good amongst the people, amongst organizations and amongst countries, the world is heading toward a catastrophe.

Because, at the end of the day, the evil must be revealed in order to be corrected.

Oren: That I understand when I look at the world with a broad view as you did before, regarding the world, is my organization also moving through the same scenario toward evil, in your opinion?

Every organization, every family, every connection amongst people, big or little, must undergo that same process since the general and the particular are equal. In other words, the revelation of evil has to be at each and every degree.

Oren: Do you anticipate that in the coming years the state of the systems of relationships within the organizations will improve or become worse if we do not take care of this in time? If they get worse, where will they get worse? Why is the rationale important here, according to the model of your perception? How do you see the development of various organizations in the coming years? If we take a particular organization, on a very precise axis of relationships, supposing the organization I come from, so are you offering here some kind of preventive medicine?

Correct.

Oren: In accordance with the model you see ahead in the coming years, if I do not begin a process of preventive medicine to improve the relationships, according to this integral approach, and the things continue to be conducted as they are today, with greater success, with lesser success, then how according to your analysis do you see my organization in a year from now, in two years, in another three?

Relationships amongst people will reach a state where they will not see each other.

Oren: The workers?

Yes, the workers, they will not see one another. Each one will relate only to his own workplace and what comes to him, and not who is deserving or who is influential and not who receives or who gives. Meaning, he, with his narrow, increased ego cannot see the other people around him. He will want to be more closed, less talkative, less participative, relating less to each person around him, even toward whoever is bigger than him, smaller or equal, too.

As a result, the connections amongst all people who are in the factory, if they become distant, with a lack of understanding amongst them, it will very much influence the productivity, the development of new things. Nowadays, it is impossible for a person to develop anything and it is very difficult to work together in some kind of collective, in a group, if there is no understanding amongst them and each one plays a game toward the other and each one throws everyone else off and in such a concealed way, so it won't be revealed.

Hence, we have no choice but to raise them to a nice, correct connection. That is one thing. The second thing is that undoubtedly the number of divorces, the distance between members of the family will increase and that will affect each and every one, including his approach to life, his mood, state of health and so forth. We will feel the results at work, as well. There will be tension, pressure, hypertension, diabetes, heart disease and so forth.

We will not be able comply with a human relationship that has to exist in order to be in reciprocity, in support between each and every one, between each and every worker and from his environment as well. Suppose we have a business and it has affiliates, it has supporters, various shareholders, suppliers, those who receive and give and influence and so on, I think the relationships amongst the partners will be much cruder, formal and extremely dry. There will not be any possibility there to speak amongst people, to ask for any postponement or something, rather everything will be much closer to a ruling, to very defined relationships. Each one, the moment he has the option to profit from the blood of the other, will take it without hesitation.

We see now how Europe shows us the protectionism, that fascism is here and terrorism is there; each one wants to be distant from the other. This shattering continues and it will reach the shattering of all the connections existing today amongst nations. Each one will want to throw the other one off, they will stop connecting amongst them, so if they are not connecting amongst them nowadays, we understand that the entire industry, trade, economy and banks, everything will fall drastically, not like today, as it will deteriorate from year to year, yet much more.

Thus, I expect a world really is a destructed world. How can the world not deteriorate into war, I do not understand. Naturally speaking, it must deteriorate into war, for if there is distancing, each one begins to be engaged in power, in protectionism, fascist regimes arise, and then that brings wars amongst nations and amongst the banking, economic, industrial and trade systems, too; it leads to collapse.

In previous years, in previous generations, when a country went to war against another country, then each country had trade and industry which were not so connected to the outside. What is happening now? If the countries enter actual wars, then what will happen now if those connections are cancelled, how can they exist, the industry the food? I cannot even imagine. We do not realize how much we depend upon each other. Especially when in war you cut off your connections with each and every nation deliberately.

Therefore it seems to me that if we do not reveal the necessity in this, the need for a nice, correct connection amongst everyone on the level of the family, amongst people at work, amongst all the factories, in trade, in industry, in the banks and so on, in countries and in all of humanity in general, which is essentially the key to our existence; and I am not yet speaking about the development, rather about existence, so how does some future seem?

That is why we see that people do not want to bear children, they do not want to establish a family; they do not want any obligations. They can take on debts, what do I care about debts, if I am not sure that tomorrow I will pay them. Who will pay? The banks are already desperate. The national debts are over your head. What will you do to me? Put a few more millions into prisons, what will you do? Meaning, the time will come when this will collapse all at once and that is that. Everyone owes others, who knows how much.

Oren: Yes, it is also very similar to what is happening in the business environment.

That is why we really need to understand that this is a collective problem and only mutually can we somehow heal it.

Nitzah: When you described the situation you just described, it created in me great identification; for it is already part of the difficulties you describe here, they are apparent in the field and we see it.

I spoke about this ten years ago as well, now finally we see that it is so. There is already an option of approaching and suggesting something.

Nitzah: As one who is involved with manpower, people and human capital, when I look at generation “V,” as the young generation is called, in the range of ages between thirty five and under, that is essentially the significant labor force today in societies and organizations, it very much matches the description you gave previously. Each one behind his own screen, behind the lack of connection, even lacking interest in one another. I remember that once there was greater envy. Nowadays, sometimes it seems that even that no longer exists. There is a kind of detachment. The individual is simply not interested. That is extremely distant from the playground you described before. It seems like each one does a huge favor by getting up in the morning altogether, making a face, sitting down and doing what he does and that is all.

And even the boss can do nothing because he has nobody else in their place, they are all the same.

Nitzah: Because that is the manpower.

Yes.

Nitzah: How can I take this human matter, that you are now describing, it seems as if it is exactly the perfect opposite of what you actually described, that we need to begin working with.

How do we make the change?

Nitzah: How do I think about the beginning at all, I do not have a starting point, how do we begin with this human material altogether, which is essentially the material with which it is necessary to work?

I think that specifically in a generation as this, at this time, in this situation, we indeed can succeed because there is recognition of the evil; since we understand we are doomed. There is no family, there are no children, there are no good relationships with everyone; I forget about my parents; let them get old somewhere; I throw them a little something and do not want to think about them so much. I also know that I cannot fall into the hands of my children; I will somehow have to care for myself until I die. I know that is how it is in society.

Particularly in such a generation, where everything is going to collapse, and not a simple collapse, to lack of food, to the danger of starvation, to the danger of war, to very great suffering, greater than death, specifically in that we can say to a person, “Come with us, we will do it easily, nicely, in a game, during work, a few exercises, we will listen, speak, in a simple, easy way, an hour a day, at the workplace and instead of work.”

We will do it this way, half an hour of talking, and half an hour of some exercise, a game. Of course it has to come in agreement with the management and the workers, because essentially we want to take care of their inner state.

What is "internal?” It is not that we change the character, the mood, the health, the outlook on life so they will be elevated. Meaning, we want to bring them a slight feeling of happiness, security, a feeling of warmth, a feeling of support, even though I would say that there is something like a miracle here, there is a unique patent how to acquire a nice and good life, how to succeed in it a little more. That is what we are bringing them.

I do not think it is a difficult thing, since from the first time we are already built to bring them such talks and activities they like. We arouse the person, the child or the teenager and raise him slightly above his life, from this living swamp. We give him some kind of reduction of all that he has. Therefore we see that it is attractive and people agree to it.

Suddenly, they begin to feel that their approach changes. They can look at life in a different way, for the integral approach is not on the same plane as the regular egoistic approach and it begins to change things within the person, it awakens within the person a new outlook. Hence, he suddenly begins to feel that the world can be new, life can be new, everything can be new. Everything is much easier, much simpler, I do not need to be “up to my ears” in troubles and problems, I can put on rose-colored glasses and see the new, beautiful world.

Even though he does not understand how, the person begins to feel a change; there is some kind of lightness around him. From a state of a heavy atmosphere, darkness, tension, criticism of each other or a type of indifference, suddenly we begin to feel slightly airier, more of a rosy mist, something that is found amongst us, and it attracts us. The person begins to feel he has less tension, pressure, pain; his spirit is better, internal ventilation. That is how it begins at first. Then, we begin to see the serious results at work, in production, in the leading approach, being drawn in, and so on and truly at the bottom line, profits.

Nitzah: I want to come away from this convention with a few key principles that I can present and convince others through them.

Oren: In your organization. Regarding the integral approach.

Nitzah: So let’s try to formulate a few key principles that will help me to convince my CEO of this approach.

All the problems we have today are from a lack of connection amongst people, organizations, nations, since nature is presenting itself as integral, and we are opposite to it. To bring ourselves to success is possible only according to that system being revealed in the human society, that we are all interdependent. We can build a nice dependence upon each other only through Integral Education. By that, the person becomes connected nicely with the others, rids himself of internal problems and troubles; a new spirit dwells amongst people, amongst the members of the factory. They all begin to participate more in all production, with everything the factory is involved in. Ultimately, we should see the results of a change of the relationships among people, the workers, managers and so on, to the bottom line of profit and loss.

Oren: Thank you very much, Dr. Laitman. Thank you Nitzah.

Nitzah: Thank you.

Oren: Thank you too for being with us. Until next time, we will think about improving the connections amongst us. It is beneficial. All the best and we will see you again.

(End of the Talk)