Morning Lesson June 10, 2023

Transcription is made from simultaneous translation, which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio.

Part 3:

Baal HaSulam. The Freedom (Influence of the Environment) (00:15 - 04:19)

S. (04:25) General question: how does what Baal HaSulam writes, teaches here, coincide with the topic of evolution, that so many types of flowers were created, all types of animal, all types of people, or from apes to people, if this is the way?

R. I don't know, I want to understand what he's writing for now.

S. It doesn't contradict, but it doesn't coincide, doesn't connect?

R. I'm not getting into other scrutinies, right now.

S. Okay.

R. The more you want to be like him, or not, what is Baal HaSulam writing that that’s what you want to ask about, yes, you're sitting there, don’t be afraid.

2. S. (05:24) How is it that a person is impressed externally from all kinds of things that he sees in his environment, how does this influence his source?

R. That, we have to see, I don't know?

S. He writes that the person has tendencies and by being incorporated in the environment and being impressed by them?

R. So the environment takes care of certain tendencies and determines the direction of his development.

S. Yes, but the changes, from where do they happen, do they happen in his source, like the sun and the soil and the minerals that connect with the source of the wheat?

R. Could be, let’s keep reading: (Rav reads) “At that time the tendencies included in his source change and take on the form of concepts”, do you see that, so what's the problem?

S. It's not clear, what is the connection between the source, first, it’s not clear what the environment influences, the tendencies or the source? The tendencies, I understand, are an expression of the source.

R. Yes.

S. So what does the environment influence, the source of the tendencies?

R. The environment influences the tendencies.

S. So how does it happen, what is the connection between the two?

R. They are included in the source.

S. What are they?

R. Included in the source.

S. Included in the source, so the connection begins from the source, the change has to happen there?

R. Of course, like he says that, “from the cereal you cannot get wheat and from wheat, you cannot get corn”.

S. So what are these sources of man and the environment that are incorporated in one another, and influence one another and connect with one another?

R. That will give us a certain person from all the collection and qualities, good and bad, will let him develop certain qualities in a certain direction according to the environment.

S. That's already the expression, but the qualities and tendencies are an expression of it; my question is, is about the source, if I understand correctly.

R. It doesn't affect the source?

S. Oh, so if it doesn't influence, how does he change qualities and tendencies?

R. The way they develop depends on the environment.

S. Okay, so what happened there in the source which now develops differently?

R. Through the environment he extracts from the source special discernments, special qualities that will develop more than the others.

S. So in this process, a person has control over it?

R. By education, yes.

S. How can one direct toward maximum influence on his source through the environment?

R. How does he influence, by searching for a good environment.

S. How is it that by being incorporated in the external layer of the environment of actions, impressions, even feelings that he absorbs and everything?

R. Yes.

S. How does it influence the development of his source?

R. The inner one?

S. Yes, the inner one.

R. Now he’s starting to talk about it, how habit can become a second nature, that we can influence degrees that are even more internal. Soon, soon, that’s already the matter of education, that it can actually make man a beast or from a beast become a man, yes. Well, you're trying to make a beast out of a man.

S. The source in terms of quantity, is not clear: if one from one grain can have two stalks or ten stalks, it’s not clear; so we have a tenth of the quantity in each one, how does it work in quantity?

R. It depends on how much more external forces we add to it. We’re not getting into the DNA, we are just adding food.

S. In an animal it can happen, that one, let's say, a fly becomes ten flies?

R. It could be, of course.

S. And in people, too?

R. In humans the environment works, I don't know how exactly to give you an example but the environment works; there's such an environment that awakens in people more of a desire to multiply and give birth to two, three or five kids. I don't know but for once, there are such, and that is ascribed to the soil, the sun, all of those external conditions.

S. Last question, the fact that humanity is now eight billion, it’s also a division of fewer sources but that are divided more and more, can you put it this way, that there are many more people?

R. That's in order for us to make a correction in an easier and quicker way, that we divide the load of passing ourselves from in order to receive to in order to bestow, we will be able to do it in quantity and then the quantity connects and gives quality.

S. What did you say that I'm trying to make a beast out of a man?

R. I'm joking, and you?

S. I said it to me, not to you!

3. S. (12:38) The desire for spirituality, is this the source in a person?

R. Desire for spirituality is in each and everyone, the question is as much as how much comes out to revelation. But the desire, it’s different in each and everyone, it is not exactly the same.

S. The desire for spirituality in each person is different, and the desire for spirituality, to love others, to come out of the ego that’s?

R. It’s all still, this whole package, right, it is unique for each and everyone, it's in everyone, those are records.

S. And basically our work is that if we have such a desire and now we are together, all of us, we have to cause, make an environment?

R. It is in the general DNA, let's say of Bnei Baruch, that we must develop in mutual bestowal towards one another. Now I see Moscow has a big Congress, a lot of friends are there, and more places; this is mutual bestowal.

S. In other words to develop the source, I don't know through which tendencies it will come out, I have to place myself in the society every time, anew?

R. Yes, right, we have Piter, Riga, Almaty. Only now I feel that we're waking up from the Corona, as much as it silenced us, subjugated us, hurt us, only now, we are actually coming out of it. Well, let's hope that will come out and rise.

4. S. (15:15) Baal HaSulam writes that “sometimes an inheritance from his father passes directly and sometimes it becomes inverted”, is there a law about it, when it becomes inverted?

R. I think that also here there's a guidance towards the environment, towards the final form that a person has to receive. It's things that are still, we don't feel them before us yet, but when we will develop, we will fill them, these things. But it's already personal so I don't know if we can explain it in general, as general laws.

5. S. (16:09) You said before that only now we are coming out of Covid.

R. Yes.

S. How do you see what this period gave us, in this development of us?

R. I cannot say, I think that it worked good on all of us, through this we have settled more, we connected in a new form, in a different form, we became more calm, stable. This is externally, internally, we will still discover that. Also hear that they are saying that it could come back in all kinds of ways. I don't think so that it will come back as it was, but the fact that there will be problems, that depends on us.

S. Wait, but you said externally we developed the ability to learn together long distance?

R. Right, which is good for those who cannot connect together physically, but for us I think, still we have no choice, we need to continue this way. But, still, the records remain and if you even want to decide to sit and study from home each and everyone, well. I don't think that it is possible to exchange the influence that we get when we sit in one area or each one sitting at home behind his computer, it can work in any wisdom but not in the wisdom of Kabbalah. Here you still need to feel each other more and get the influence from them which is only from physical bodies beside you.

S. So people who have no ability, those who live far, they receive from Above some help?

R. Yes, they receive from Above some help but still, I think that there will be more and more places, well not specifically ours, but they will study in a way that they will connect together physically.

S. So those who have an ability to connect physically will feel that this has to be in a physical place?

R. Yes, he’ll feel that without this he’s not changing, our work is the main thing, is by influencing one another; that way we change, incorporation, Hitkalelut.

6. S. (19:59) Concerning the article, this quality called, ‘Jew’, is it something that’s imprinted in the source?

R. I wouldn’t want to get into this too much right now, it’s still early, but it’s worth it for you to think if you’re already asking: first of all, Jews are a group, we know, that started in ancient Babylon from an idol worshipper, the son of Terah, Abraham, and that was our source. But the ‘moment’ part of humanity had such a role in reaching a change in their nature from ego to bestowal, that's why they were called ‘Jewish’, Yehudism, before that there wasn't anything. If you take any person from outside and you open his ID and it says, “this is a Jew, this is an Arab, this is a Russian”, so, it means nothing.

S. That's what I'm trying to understand, are these things imprinted in the source that within the human race that this group had to develop this way, just as you have types of wheat, you have types of people or it something that’s acquired through an external influence?

R. The freedom of choice is given to each one, and each one can become or reach adhesion with the Creator.

S. In other words, it’s a future state that is embedded in each one’s source,

R. Everyone, like Baal HaSulam writes, black, white, red, right?

S. Okay, so a question concerning someone who is not Jewish, someone who is on the nations of the world, right now, on this source of humanity.

R.  According to what, to his parents or?

S. No, in terms of his relation, he is not Jewish, he feels hatred for Jews, he feels that he has some, he has this relation?

R. Clear.

S. Now, that person becomes exposed to the idea of what it really means to be Jewish and such people we can see that they connect to such ideas, they understand it?

R. Yes.

S. Even more than Jewish and genetic Jews?

R. Yes.

S. But it’s as if you feel that they are not changing, it’s hard for them to change; can they change or do they have this role in reality to pressure Jews and they can’t change with it, they remain with it for life or can a person change his role in reality?

R. His role in reality doesn't change, it’s none of his business, he can want to come closer here or otherwise but it’s not him determining it, we activate it.

S. So in this life, in his source according to his source, is he supposed to be from the force, the part that pressures the Jews, he won't be able to change it in this life or maybe he will be able to?

R. It's not up to us and it's not up to him.

S. It’s something systemic, bigger then?

R. Okay guys, we need today to incorporate in a meal, right? Good, do you have anything to say about that? What, no, just like that, so let's go downstairs.

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