Part 3:

Baal HaSulam. Introduction to the Book Panim Meirot uMasbirot

Reading:  Introduction to the Book Panim Meirot uMasbirot (00:23)

Item 1: ( 00:23) 1) It is written at the end of the Okatzin

1. S. (10:52 ) The matter of passing the wisdom are giving the wisdom. What is that process for the one who is derivatively giving it receiving it? What are the conditions for passing on the wisdom?

R. If you talk about it now I don't know how long it's going to take keep it brief it means to be an equivalence of form from the one that you want to take this wisdom from.

S. Equivalence of form in what which way?

R. In which vessels?

S. What are vessels?

R. Intentions qualities desires intentions qualities

S. You said intentions qualities deserve it?

R. As much as possible to be in equivalence of form. Depends on who you want to be adhered to. Who you are, who he is 

S. Can you explain the matter of the vessels and their equivalence?

R.  I'll talk about it also from here it will be more clear to us.

S. The wisdom of Kabbalah equivalence in what vessels do they need to be order to receive in equivalence of who's passing it to us?

R. In those same spiritual vessels  and somewhat at least from the one bestowing

S. Equivalence to spiritual vessels?

R. Of course what else would you want to receive?

S. What are spiritual vessels?

R. Spiritual vessels are called that you were given the secret of reception of the lights.

S. You said previously the thoughts, desires, qualities. What does he have to be equal to to receive those? 

R. It depends which degree and what conditions we are talking about. 

S. and external wisdom?

R. The external wisdom you only need minds for that.

S. Meaning?

R. Only to understand it's ways of knowledge.

S. Why isn't the intellect enough to acquire the wisdom of Kabbalah?

R. Well, that's clear because here you need to receive from your teacher the stages of attainment.

S.  Here we see he explains that the order is the Paredes first so he explains I understand why isn't that enough to have the mind to acquire this wisdom?

R. How can it be enough if you you can't fill your brain with the wisdom of Kabbalah

S. There's a lot we just read that this and that from Rabash explains in such a logical, clear and understood way and a process that's what we have to ask and that's how we have to do in this rises to that and that goes down to that.

R. Here we're speaking about the path of knowledge but that's not the way of attainment

S. Why are the ways of knowledge not good enough for us here?

R. It's not good enough because we want to tame anything by it. We want to know we need to know the actual deeds from their essence.

S. First of all, what is missing on the ways of the intellectual studying in order to understand it

R. Attainment.

S. Which are vessels?

R. It's completely different vessels, it's not intellect it's not according to your head it's according to your heart.

S. Why did they write so much intellectual explanations?

R. Because they wanted to bring this godly wisdom as close as possible to the corporeal person.

S. Is my mind helping here to come closer to godly wisdom?

R. Yes it helps, by understanding that by the knowledge by the connection with your friends you will be able to attain something of spirituality. That in the end it will help you understand the upper force. 

2. S. (16:39) What's the matter of needing to receive the wisdom from another person? After all the soul of a man will teach one and all the Torah's in my heart and he's supposed to receive all of this naturally and directly from the upper force. What's the wisdom that moves from Rav to a student?  What's that wisdom that Baal HaSulam is talking about moving from one to the other?

R. He can't get the Torah straight from the Creator. 

It must be adhered to by someone who passes the wisdom to him corporally and then through this wisdom he can connect also to his spirituality of that source.

S. Meaning he receives from the RAV some form of a mold, can you give us a little bit more of a feeling of what you received from the Rav some sort of mold or a form? Can you giveA little bit more of a feeling of what you received from the Rav  compared to from the Creator later

R. From the Rav he receives the corporeal vessels that help him connect to spiritual vessels of the Rav and afterwards to the vessels of spiritual discernments.

S. Okay, that's interesting but what does that mean that one soul will teach one?

R.  That through his soul,through that light that he receives, in him from that he learns about his inner vessels.

S. We, in our form of study, who's the Rav that is  teaching us and the question is whether we need to seemingly receive the wisdom in such a way?

R. Everybody has to receive the wisdom in such a method; it has nothing to do with the student being a genius. These are the forms that the wisdom is passed from generation to generation or to degree to degree.

S. What's the connection to receiving the wisdom in such a way to the spiritual development we need to attain. Let's say the attainment of connection and adhesion in the Creator is it for this we need to attain the wisdom through the Rav? The reception of this wisdom?

R. As much as I understand, yes. it's a must to receive wisdom through a teacher. I don't know I'm not saying how much of it and to which extent but it has to be this way. 

3. S. (20:28) What does it mean to develop a deficiency for the wisdom?

R. To develop a deficiency for the wisdom that a person is concerned that he will constantly have a lack in the attainment of the wisdom in more and more exalted degrees.

S. Specifically in the connection with the friends there's a feeling that is very really not aimed towards the lack of wisdom. Where can you combine it in the connection with the friends and to open more deficiency for their wisdom?

R. We'll talk about it. I just understand that without connecting one man to his friend, we will not be able to receive the degrees of the wisdom.

4. S. (21:38) How does it happen? How does a person attain first the secret and only then the shots come to him, the simple form of it?

R. Just as a person develops from the still, vegetative, animate and speaking, in this way he attains Hochma, the wisdom on the degrees that resemble the still, vegetative, animate and speaking. That's parallel, one to the other.

S. This PARDES, this general package, is it something that a person needs to attain in general?

R. Whatever belongs to his soul, each one has his own part in the original soul.

Reading Item #3. (23:25) “Let me explain the matter..”

5. R. (35:25) All right, let’s stop here. He writes beautifully.