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Daily Lesson (Morning) June 30, 2024.

Part 1: Baal HaSulam. The Writings of the Last Generation, Part One, Title: Debate

Reader: Hello, we will be reading the writings of Baal HaSulam, The Last Generation , continuing part one from the title Debate. You can find all of our texts on kabbalahmedia.info, and you can send us questions live through our websites. Now, anyone asking a question here in the study hall is requested to stand up, hold the microphone close to his mouth, and speak loudly and clearly.

Reading Item One: (00:38) The Writings of the Last Generation, Part One, Title: Debate, item 1.

Clearly, the motto, “Each will receive according to his needs and work according to his ability,” is absolute altruism. When this is applied, the majority of the public, or all of it, will be armed with the measure, “Let mine be yours.” Hence, do tell, which are the elements that can bring the public to this desire? Today’s elements, namely the hatred of the capitalists and all sorts of animosities extending from it, will only bring man to the opposite. It will instill the measure of “Let mine be mine and let yours be yours” in people, which is Sodomite Rule, the opposite of love of others.

M. Laitman: Is that clear?  

Reading Item Two: (02:09) Item 2.

I have nothing to say to those who go with the flow, only with those who have their own opinion and the strength to criticize.

Reading Item Three: (02:32) Item 3.

Engels’ fundamental concept, in the name of Marx, states, “The oppressed and exploited class cannot be liberated from the oppressing and exploiting class without also liberating the entire society from exploitation, oppression and class struggle once and for all.”

This contradicts the contemporary communist conduct to slaughter and degenerate all the bourgeois parts of society. This powerful enmity will never be effaced from their children. It contradicts the fact that they are establishing a sovereign, governing class, monitoring the working class. There is no more painful and regrettable class struggle than that. They pump out the fat from the workers’ marrow and leave them the leftovers along with constant fear of death, or of being sent to Siberia.

Where is the salvation here? They have replaced the bourgeois class, which was not at all so terrible. In fact, its shadow has been lifted from them since the workers have the power to strike against them. They’ve substituted it with a sovereign class, governing and ruling over a class of exploited slaves who are perpetually terrorized by punishments far worse than they had in their war against the bourgeois.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (05:15) Regarding item two, he said, I don't have anything to say to those who go with the flow, but only to those with their own opinions and the ability to criticize, so he's turning to very few people here.

M. Laitman: What can you do? We see that most people are going with the flow, whether it's the regime or whoever dictates how life should be, and they just try to find within whatever constraints they're given some more convenient states, that's their whole attitude to the managers and life. Here, what he ultimately wants to say is, how do we get to a society where people are happy with the regime, and they don't need to subdue themselves towards the regime, and the regime actually works together with all of society. That's it, I don't have more to add.

Student: But what he says here in these items, that's very clear to everyone that it's true.

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: Anyone can understand this, even if he doesn't go against the flow and so on. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: I don't understand why he's talking only to those who have their own opinions and the ability to conduct criticism. 

M. Laitman: Because such people are typically unhappy about the regime, and they don't get to agree with it, agreeing with it so quickly. 

Reading Item Four: (07:46) Item 4.

The country is divided into two classes: the “diligent” and the “stragglers.” The diligent are the employers and the leaders; the stragglers are the workers and the led. It is a natural law that the diligent will exploit the stragglers. The only question is how much freedom, equality, and standard of living they leave for the stragglers. Also, how much labor the diligent will demand of them.

The stragglers are always the vast majority in society. The diligent are but ten percent of it, which is the exact measure needed to operate society. If the percentage is increased or decreased, there is a crisis.

These are the crises in the bourgeois society. Crises in the communist society will take a different form, but with the same amount of suffering. The title “diligent” also includes their heirs and those who bribe the diligent. The title “stragglers” relates also to diligent who for some reason have been thrown into the class of the stragglers.

M. Laitman: Well, this should be relatively clear. Next.

Reading Item 5: (09:52) Item 5.

Regarding religion: The permanent moral state does not stem from religion, but from science. “Empirio Criticism,” 324 [This is a statement made by Lenin in his book, Materialism and Empirio Criticism].

M. Laitman: Yes, well he doesn't continue here, we don't have more than that. Next.

Reading Item 6: (10:32) Item 6.

Morality based on public benefit exists in social animals, too. However, this is not enough since it changes to vulgarity where it is harmful to society, such as the great patriotic murderer, carried on the shoulders of the nationalists. Thus, only religion based morality is durable, valid, and irreplaceable. We find the same among savage nations, whose level of morality is far greater than civilized nations.

Reading Item 7: (11:42) Item 7.

A society cannot be good unless its majority is good. However, some stun or entice the bad majority with all sorts of contrivances until they are compelled to choose a good leadership. This is what all democracies do. Alas, the majority will finally learn, or others will teach them, and they will choose an evil leadership that matches their ill will.

M. Laitman: Corruption can happen that is. Next. 

Reading Item 8: (12:32)  Item 8.

We must understand why Marx and Engels decided that perfection of communism means “Working according to the ability and receiving according to the needs.” Who forced it upon them? Why was it not enough to receive according to one’s production, and not to equalize one with a negligent, or with a childless? The thing is that communism will not endure by way of egoism, but by the way of altruism, for the above-mentioned reasons.

M. Laitman: So there is no choice but to get to a connection between us which will be an altruistic connection. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (13:36) Right, morality based on the benefit of society does not suffice. So love your friend does not suffice, you also need to love the Lord your God?

M. Laitman: It seems that there are more conditions to support it. 

Student: What? 

M. Laitman: The corrected society. One rule can't make this regime hold. 

Student: According to Baal HaSulam, love your friend as yourself is only a preliminary condition on the way there? 

M. Laitman: Yes, until you get to love thy Lord your God. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (14:27) He speaks here about how they rose on waves of hatred to remove the bourgeois. Now we see that when someone is displeased  he starts increasing hatred in the people, in the nation, wanting to fell the government. Can this religious morality stop hate, what can stop hatred? 

M. Laitman: Oh, you're already asking about the remedy. I don't think that it can be done that way, to heal the regime that way. We don't know. 

Student: People are simply increasing hatred, wanting to create unity between the displeased, and it doesn't seem that we know how to stop such a thing on the one hand. They really clothe on that need in people trying to motivate them to act and it's not really understood what can be done against something like that, to remove hatred from the hearts of people. 

M. Laitman: To awaken in the hearts how we still don't fit into a single framework or the right cooperation, and only when we care about being together as one man and one heart and so forth, then we can rise above all of the arguments and failures. 

Student: I have a question on a different topic. Baal HaSulam really respected Marx, or did he just speak that way in order to come closer to people? 

M. Laitman: No, I don't think he respected Marx and was a Marxist in himself. Rather, in different ways in which communists were in dialogue, and that includes socialists and the Marxists themselves, that was somewhat partially compatible to his method. 

Student: I understand, thank you.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (17:39) Here also I want to ask, what can we learn from Baal HaSulam, a Kabbalist who engages in such writings, philosophical writings, he quotes politicians, what can we take from that? 

M. Laitman: That's the internality of his goal, his intention, his view, it's very important. If you study the structure of the worlds, the ascents and descents and all kinds of things, then here you can see how it's present in the absorption of society that attempts to establish itself as a single society.

Student: And us, with respect to dissemination, to understand these texts better, do we need to also integrate all these ideas, to read all these opinions and what's happening in humanity to understand these things better? 

M. Laitman: No, we don't find today that there is some selection of views and there is no one to incorporate with. We used to think about that many years ago, that we could be close to some, to a few, to someone, but over time it all passed and they went from their views, which used to be close so let's call it communism, at least somewhat, and they moved to completely egoistic lines, even the Kibbutzim, those settlements and so on.

Student: I want to ask how to relate to people today in the world, scientists, futurists, authors, people who know well how to express the crisis. Are they all complete egoists, completely warped perception?

M. Laitman: What they lack is seeing the future society, that this is how it has to be, that this is what's embedded in the laws of nature, the upper nature. And therefore, we can't understand them and why they continue this generation, this regime, and don't change each time towards a more cohesive, nice society, united, yes.

Student: He writes I have nothing to say to those who go with the flow, but only those with their own opinion and the ability to conduct criticism. Who are those people who have their own opinions and the power to criticize? 

M. Laitman: There's none. If someone is doing some inspection, criticism, it's only to rise against someone else.

Student: So he has no one to talk to because everyone goes with the flow today.

M. Laitman: Correct. 

Student: And how in humanity or part of it, how will this opinion develop, the power to criticize?

M. Laitman: Only from the true lack of success which will be obvious to everyone, that where they're headed is not the right direction. And it only brings wars and such horrible things, that's what I can say. 

Student: And then what can we speak about with them?

M. Laitman: Nothing to speak about, it's only to wait that this evil will get to a point where the world, the nations of the world won't be able to bear that.

Student: And that's the recognition of evil? 

M. Laitman: Recognition of evil comes from how the evil itself takes on an unbearable form in the human, and also that they see that it doesn't bring them to anything good in any way.

Student: And in such a state a person is capable of hearing about the principle of connection with the future society?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And what about all those who go with the flow, why does he have nothing to say to them? Don't you need to try to educate them, try to influence them?

M. Laitman: He doesn't have actual recognition of evil, he's just drawn to it and that's it. Also today you have such people, and it's most of them, and they're not thinking about how something can be changed and that what's happening is so bad that they have to stand up and make changes. No, it's not there.

Student: So people who go with the flow, can't you just divert their flow, the way they're thinking into a different direction?

M. Laitman: It could be possible, but for now we can't. For now we're not trying, especially because people agree with anything that won't be war, and that shows that they're not yet in the right final scrutiny.

Student: To understand what Baal HaSulam says here, is it better to speak to those people who have a strong opinion and who feel the evil and not to go and disseminate to the masses?

M. Laitman: Yes, meaning we have to identify people who are really unhappy with what's going on and explain to them why this is happening and in what way we can make it stop and start a new generation.

Student: Leaders in society, in humanity, are those people who have their own opinions and the power to criticize or those who go with the flow?

M. Laitman: Those who go with the flow. They're willing to do all kinds of things, even if they look big and revolutionary but it's all just not changing the direction of development.

Student: Last question. If people will agree to anything to avoid war, that's the situation, so what can you do with that, what's the next stage in development?

M. Laitman: We have to explain that war will not happen and will not break out following us being quiet. On the contrary, if we keep quiet, then wars will erupt more and more.

Student: So what's the final word here? It's clear that people don't want war.

M. Laitman: It's true, however they want change, and from wanting change, we come to starting a war because we don't see any other method to change life, the regime, what's going on.

Student: It's correct to want social change and not for the war to stop, not just for the war to stop?

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (27:21) You said previously that we need to awaken the hearts so as to be together. What does it mean to awaken the hearts, what do we need to awaken?

M. Laitman: To awaken the hearts to connection, and even against those states that appear from society. And to educate the public, not to wait for them to change and not to reach out to them, rather we do need to go out to them and show them what is the direction of life according to nature, according to the upper law.

Student: To continue, here in item 4 he describes a law where he says that the stragglers are always the vast majority of the society and the diligent are only 10% of the society. 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: And this is the exact measure needed to operate society, and if the percentage is increased or decreased, meaning without that balance there will be a crisis. So how does that align with what you say about how we need to awaken each other's hearts? 

M. Laitman: We don't awaken the majority of the public, which is you could say, the oppressed or those who agree and are weak. Rather, we want to explain to everyone that the laws of human development, of social development, are such that we have to advance to a uniform society so that it doesn't matter where you are, higher or lower on the social strata, you understand what you're doing and what everyone's doing and where we're all headed. What is the step forward we're doing each time.

Student: I feel what you say now in our society here on the path, I feel that there's always this 10% pulling everyone behind them and it doesn't matter who these 10% are, we see that in the Ten even. Always you have friends who suddenly have a burst of energy and they pull everyone. It's like an engine, right, with pistons going up and down. So these 10% have to constantly awaken the rest of the friends, the rest of society?  

M. Laitman: We ourselves, each of us is changing all the time, and we take upon ourselves this kind of work, like a piston or like some other element. And therefore we shouldn't suppress such people, rather the other way around, open to them opportunities to advance society. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (31:27) He criticizes Lenin here, who says that the moral state doesn't stem from religion but from science, meaning from actual criticism, so empirical. Most people believe in science today because science is successful in these things, but here he says that through empiricism science will never be able to deliver any kind of moral basis or foundation. Why?

M. Laitman: Science cannot change the human. It simply establishes for the human some constraints for development, but no more.

Student: Science, its advantage is that it learns from mistakes, learns from mistakes, doubting what was, constantly improving. It's successful in every field, but in morality… 

M. Laitman: No, no, with respect to human society, it cannot succeed.

Student: So the question is why? Why does it fail when it comes to morality in society?

M. Laitman: We don't have a science of society that allows us to study the forms that we're going through and that we can use to actually try to reach the goal. We don't have it practically in our hands. We can do it, but only through social change, that each time we raise our society higher and higher, and we determine advanced forms of connection in society and try to implement them. 

Student: We have this field called sociology, right? It studies the masses, sees how they behave, and it's pretty predictable the way people behave. But here he says that with respect to morality, that will not succeed, meaning to look at what was and to advance from there. He says only religion, what he calls religion of course, only that's the proper means. So why from the behavior of the masses, looking at it, can't you derive some moral foundations?

M. Laitman: Because we don't advance in the matter of religion to building society according to laws of nature, we don't have such examples from nature. So it turns out that what we will receive, or accept, or hear from people who belong to the qualities of the Creator and dress into the society, and advance society, we won't be able to advance ourselves accordingly. He wants to say that the communistic form in short, can't appear, can't be revealed out of our own efforts and attempts.

Student: So what will it be revealed from?

M. Laitman: Let's see what he writes.

Student: So critiquing the past won't bring us any insights with respect to the future?

M. Laitman: No, let's see, but it's good that we have this question, and now we're beginning to see that this is the main question and we don't have a solution.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (36:36) I wanted to ask about this phenomenon. Why is it when you take such high ideals, unity, equality, freedom, instead of a blessing it becomes a curse on two generations? They took the highest, loftiest ideals. Seemingly some light, some upper light should have come.

M. Laitman: By what did they want to get to these degrees?

Student: I don't know, but you take these very high things and it becomes a curse instead of a blessing, so maybe it's better to remain on the capitalistic level where people have freedom to demonstrate and so on, like he says.

M. Laitman: True.

Student: Instead of taking these high ideals which awakens hatred.

M. Laitman: Because you're approaching high slogans with dirty vessels.

Student: That's the question, why does it become the elixir of death instead of the elixir of life?

M. Laitman: Because you're trying to establish something lofty above yourself with forces you don't have. You're trying to build something big and lofty with your own strength, and then you're building something that can only come out of your own strength and that becomes a regime that is worse. What did they want to do in Russia some 30 years ago? How they started and what they wanted, but you see what happened.

Student: So what's the solution, to sit and wait until? 

M. Laitman: The solution is to understand what they write, the Kabbalists, and out of that try to see that bitter mistake that we're going into. And even if we won't see more than from the advice of Kabbalists in terms of what we can see in it, but we have to accept it as necessary, things that will nevertheless advance us. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (39:44) I'm trying to understand how change can come about. He writes of two means, religion, which is the religion of bestowal, and the public opinion. By public opinion we understand how people think about the influence of the environment. These are the principles now. The religion of bestowal, we understand that a person's nature changes according to the reforming light, study in the Ten and so on, but in the wider public, how will that transformation of nature occur so that these values of equality and so on become something more than slogans?

M. Laitman: First of all, it's getting closer to us. If years ago you could speak about all of this theoretically, unrelated to human life, today you see that these are things that dictate our daily life and that's already progress. What happens with us next? That already depends on our choice. We'll talk about the choice later on, but we're getting closer to it. And thus, it is the difference between the generation that existed this and that time ago, and today's generation.

Student: You talked about how, and it's also written in the introduction to TES, that suffering softens the heart. Then the reforming light was invented. I sit and I study with the Ten, I draw some force, and I change, I become more of an altruist. And so, what are the means here, the new means, because it's clear to us that the wider public won’t sit and draw the light and study, so what will happen?

M. Laitman: I think that he is talking about a society that studies the correct things with regards to social development, and from that development it sees how it develops directly towards the goal, or going outwards, away from the line that leads to the purpose of creation. That's what society has to discover.

Student: So, the means remain, studying the purpose of creation, the purpose of life. And so it turns out that studying the source texts is the only means, there's not going to be another, right? So working in a Ten and studying the source texts.

M. Laitman: Right.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (43:27) It seems that the more suffering increases, there is a solution to it, hatred. People simply divide into different factions and hate each other more, and it doesn't seem that there is even an upper limit to that compensation.

M. Laitman: Well they try to just let go and that's it.

Student: But he writes about people who go with the flow. The majority doesn't even go with the flow, they're just apathetic. They get up in the morning and live until they die. Correction begins with the recognition of evil, which means that I'm bad, and I need to change.

M. Laitman: Recognition of evil explains to you that each and every day you have less strength to live, less strength to take care of kids, the environment, that you're declining.

Student: Yes, the decline is very visible, but it seems the solution is to blame someone, blame the leader, blame the other faction.

M. Laitman: Well if it helps, and if it doesn't, it makes things even worse.

Student: Clearly it doesn't help, but that's how people compensate let's call it, and that's it. 

M. Laitman: That's for now. 

Student: Okay, but how will blaming others turn into blaming myself and self-change? It seems it's the complete opposite. 

M. Laitman: Yes, we'll see what he writes. Where does it come from? 

Question (Women Moscow): (45:27) Regarding the recognition of evil from Women Moscow. They're asking, until a person has achieved the recognition of evil, does that mean he does not have a left line?

M. Laitman: Let's put aside left and right for now. 

Question (Women Turkiye 9): (45:47) It was mentioned that we cannot elevate society's consciousness through education, so how can we elevate this kind of, nobody, people don't have an understanding of divinity.

M. Laitman: That's through study that we haven't got to yet.

Question (Latin 1): (46:13) Regarding the stragglers and the diligent, do the stragglers have the ability to become diligent?

M. Laitman: Possibly, if they engage in what they are destined to engage with. 

Question (Women New York 3): (46:34) Why does Baal HaSulam call the exploiters diligent, there are workers who are also diligent. 

M. Laitman: Right, we'll see that.

Question (Unity 51): (46:50) What are the qualities of a leader in spirituality? 

M. Laitman: That we'll learn separately.  

Reading Title News: (47:07) By the very same way they have exterminated the capitalists, they were also forced to exterminate the farmers. In addition, in the sense of the joy of life, they will be always forced to destroy the workers.

Reading Title News: (47:35) News.

By the very same way they have exterminated the capitalists, they were also forced to exterminate the farmers. In addition, in the sense of the joy of life, they will always be forced to destroy the workers.

M. Laitman: Again.

By the very same way they have exterminated the capitalists, they were also forced to exterminate the farmers. In addition, in the sense of the joy of life, they will always be forced to destroy the workers.

M. Laitman: Interesting, we’ll continue. 

Reading Title News: (48:08) News.

Although Marx and Engels were the first to place the correction of the world on the workers, it did not occur to them to do it coercively, but rather democratically. For this reason, the workers had to be the majority, and then establish a proletariat government where the leaders of the regime would gradually correct until they come to the abstract altruism: each according to his actions, and each according to his needs.

M. Laitman: Again.

Reading Title News: (49:00) News.

Although Marx and Engels were the first to place the correction of the world on the workers, it did not occur to them to do it coercively, but rather democratically. For this reason, the workers had to be the majority, and then establish a proletariat government where the leaders of the regime would gradually correct until they come to the abstract altruism: each according to his actions, and each according to his needs.

M. Laitman: This is what he says, that in an ordinary, calm way, we are able to get to this abstract altruism.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (50:18) How is it possible to explain in the future society the relationship between the diligent and the stragglers? There is an interdependency there, where you know that your quality of life depends on that relationship. How does that relationship reach equilibrium between the straggler and the diligent? 

M. Laitman: You simply take into account the nature of the lazy person, the nature of the diligent person, and you calculate how many, what's the ratio you need to have between stragglers and diligence in order for them to balance each other out.

Student: I don't know how deep we can go into this, but there are many issues here regarding how the society comes to decisions. Do the diligent decide everything for the society or is there some kind of, do we go according to the majority?

M. Laitman: No, not according to the majority, no, you're not going to be able to calculate anything that way. Rather, in every society there is an amount of people who live according to their uniqueness, and some live as quantity.

Student: Okay, so here also in a sense, you have classes. The diligent are those leading the society, guiding the society.

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (52:22) You have lazy people, which you can understand that because it's clear in nature, but there are people you feel aren't lazy but exploitative, right, and that cannot be tolerated. So what…I think we have many problems, because people feel that others are exploiting them, using them for those other people's benefit, and that causes true hatred. Is there a solution to this?

M. Laitman: There's a solution in building the society itself, that each one invests as much as they can and receives as much as they need.

Student: That might ease things, but how is it possible to reach a state where a person doesn't see another person as an exploiter but rather just as lazy? Because if a person sees another exploiting him, he cannot deal with that. I see this is the main barrier in our work, in our group also. You always have this feeling that people are not in Arvut with you. You know, do as much as you can and receive as much as you need, but if one person stops working, you feel that's wrong and you can see crises arising in such situations. What can be done to raise a person above that issue, above that problem, us as well?

M. Laitman: I think that the relation to each other as friends, that we're all friends, we're all connected, even though we think we're different and far from each other and even rejecting each other, it only seems to us that way. Ultimately, we unify by the upper force. It governs us and leads us to unity.

Student: Okay, so on that basis if we look at what Baal HaSulam wrote, meaning that the hatred a group has, let's say the proletariat towards the bourgeois, they hate them, that hatred, he says, only brings about an opposite state, right? It turns a person more towards what's mine is mine, what's yours is yours. So what will help them, the majority of the public, because it's in our nature, and as you said, it depends on some kind of collective feeling and a feeling of community let's call it, and turning to the upper force, right? And that should take place in all people? So we'll never emerge from it because that hatred will always exist where someone is taking advantage of me.

M. Laitman: We have to turn it from, transform it to a force that advances us, that develops us.

Student: Last question on this matter, because it also, I find this lacking in my spiritual work, our spiritual work. If I look at a phenomenon which seems to me very negative, and I have an opportunity to eradicate it, to bring the person to, to show him that he's wrong, it's written here that this won't do anything good for me, it'll bring me bad qualities. So what is the right approach when a person sees something so negative? How should he respond so that it brings about a good situation, what does he need to do within himself?

M. Laitman: He has to long to adhere to those that are successful.

Student: To remove himself from that? Let's say he sees a person doing something very bad, the solution is just to put some distance between him and that form?

M. Laitman: Yes, and enter a society that seems positive in his eyes.

Student: Let's say he's in Arvut with the whole world, and he expects this thing to be corrected at some point. The fact that he removes himself from that, will correction come to that society? 

M. Laitman: Until the final correction, as we advance, we always move towards a certain form and away from some form. It's impossible otherwise because we always go forward on two legs.

Student: So just to put it off to one side?

M. Laitman: Yes, and what did you want to ask before?

Student: I think you answered every question I had. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (58:09) This question, this structure he talks about, the 90% and the 10%, it's the same formation that he talked about before, the 10% altruists and 90%… 

M. Laitman: You can assume that.

Student: And what's the spiritual root of that, is it Malchut and the first nine?

M. Laitman: Yes, it's according to the Sefirot. 

Student: Do you have the text here open? So regarding the friend's question, he writes later on that this method is clarified through 2,000 pages where it speaks of the upper roots, meaning he refers everyone to the study of TES later. It's nice to see how he refers everyone to the roots. He writes here at the end that this perception is clarified in 2,000 pages, which are the secrets of the Torah, which will force every person to believe in its truthfulness. This is a wondrous wisdom which refers to prophecy. He explains that this is the religious perception of things and it's clarified through these writings. Now  historically, these things are clarified much more in the Nation paper. Of course, we didn't finish reading this but he shows there how the first excerpt we read, which isn't so clear, he shows how Stalin and Lenin caused this to happen, to turn it into a coercive regime. But what he talks about hatred is also very interesting, it's what we see today. What's mine is mine, what's yours is yours, developing out of hatred. He explains that Marx didn't complete his thesis, let's say, because he united the workers through hatred, but the second stage should have been love, but that was missing and the world got stuck on hatred and developed like that. It's very nice to see how identity politics occurring today, the discourse in Europe and the United States, how each one becomes a faction. It becomes what's mine is mine, what's yours is yours. I cannot say anything about a different public if I'm not part of it. If you say anything you become canceled, you get canceled. So it's nice to see how this applies to politics now, how hatred truly brought the world to the strengthening of the equality of Sodom. It's really lovely to see how he predicts future trends and he doesn't have a complete solution here. It didn't match, he didn't write. But he identifies everything that's going to happen, postmodernism, social ideas and so on, social activism. He predicts how all of them will get stuck on that stage of hatred, black shirts, the fist symbolism, right. There's no love there, it's all about strengthening the hatred which brings about the ruin, the collapse of a society if you don't have some other perceptions, some other ideal shifting society towards love.

M. Laitman: Nice. Okay, should we continue or move to something else? 

Reader: (01:01:37) We're in the middle of the text here, so maybe... 

M. Laitman: Okay, yes. 

Reading Title News: (01:01:50) News.

Lenin added to it the establishment of the communist regime through forcing the minority opinion over the majority, hoping that afterward, altruism would be conducted among them, too. All that was needed for this was an armed camp of workers. Since the property owners are scattered, they could take the government by force, and then come and defeat the weak and unorganized property owners.

In this, he disagreed with Marx and said that it is quite the contrary; in the straggling countries, it is easier to defeat them, as all that is needed was to turn the soldiers into communists and destroyers of the property owners, and to take their property. It is easier to incite soldiers to kill and loot the property owners in a straggling country.

That is why he understood that he will not find a cruder multitude than in his own country, and therefore said that his country will be the first. However, when he saw that in fact it was not enough to destroy the capitalist ten percent, but that millions of farmers must also be destroyed, he grew tired, because it is impossible to destroy half a nation.

Then came Stalin, who said that the end justifies the means, and took upon himself the task of destroying the farmers, too. He was successful.

However, not one of them took into consideration that in the end, they need the good will of the workers, so they would work, and to instill in them the attribute of altruism, which would bring them to this motto. This is utterly impossible. Nature cannot be changed so that not only would one work for one’s needs, but for the needs of his friend. This is utterly impossible without coercion and compulsion. Ultimately, the majority will rise and revoke the regime.

M. Laitman: Yes.

Reader: (01:05:25) Do you want us to stop here, no, yes? 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:05:34) Why doesn't the will to receive manage to build a perfect egoistic society where everyone is happy? 

M. Laitman: What? 

Student: The will to receive's program is very simple, minimum effort. 

M. Laitman: The program of the will to receive is very simple. It's like when you look at little kids. They're willing to kill everyone else and only stay with their friend that they know how to play with. 

Student: Yes, but if we don't take into account the evil inclination, right? Just a pure will to receive in the inanimate, vegetative, and animate degrees, they get along fine. Why can't you build a society like that? 

M. Laitman: If you take into account that they don't want to devour each other. Still, vegetative, and animate are not the speaking level yet.

Student: So what's the hindrance in terms of building a perfect egoistic society where everyone feels good? 

M. Laitman: One wants what the other has. 

Student: The evil inclination, that's the addition? 

M. Laitman: Yes, what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine.

Student: It's unclear where this stems from, right? Now, communism, egoistic communism, a society like that is actually a perfect egoistic society where everyone feels good. 

M. Laitman: How can it be complete or perfect?

Student: Because each one receives what he needs in such a society, he feels peaceful. 

M. Laitman: But he receives it at the account of the other. 

Student: Fine. 

M. Laitman: What do you mean fine? 

Student: So what? Bottom line. What is egoistic communism, what is that stage?

M. Laitman: It's a very important stage in development. It's actually the final stage because after that they destroy society. 

Student: So, if now from the chaos we have now we want to develop, the next stage is… 

M. Laitman: Now? No, it's not chaos.

Student: The evil inclination is in charge now.

M. Laitman: Well, relatively, not that much yet. The true control means unfettered, there's no such thing today yet.

Student: So if we want to advance one stage forward, we're going towards egoistic communism, right? If someone has a slightly more developed mind, he understands that there's an evil inclination here sabotaging things, not allowing us to establish normal society. So someone is controlling us from above, forcing the evil inclination on us. It's like a bug in the system, unexpected, right?

M. Laitman: Let's say.

Student: So, the next stage is to establish an egoistic, communistic society, and under what conditions can this happen, can this occur, the establishment of such a society which overcomes the evil inclination. What does it need to do to know it, to study it?

M. Laitman: Right, right. 

Student: So how do we advance? We need to explain to people about the evil inclination, how it's a foreign force governing reality.

M. Laitman: Probably.

Student: Okay, so something else. Egoistic communism is an egoistic society with a bit more understanding, right?

M. Laitman: Yes.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:09:49) I'm trying to understand the message of the Kabbalists here. We can show that all types of regimes will fail, and they only advance towards a place that's worse. And now we can show the proper, desirable future society, but we also say there's no chance for you to get there because you have the evil inclination, so there's no hope of achieving it but only if it's opened up to you by an upper force.

M. Laitman: Also there's no hope for an upper force here. In the upper force, in order to hold the egoistic society, the upper force has to really treat it, take care of it, be connected to it. 

Student: So Kabbalists can't actually lead this. There's no guidance, go here, do that, do this. 

M. Laitman: Kabbalists explain to us that by way of nature, we always ultimately come to altruistic communism.

Student: Yes but again, through teaching people, through guiding them, ultimately, it always comes down to looking up to the heavens and hoping for help, right? Because every way he describes it here, he says, look, you cannot do this, you cannot organize these things because of the will to receive. There is a future structure, right, but you cannot achieve it so in the end just sit and pray, that's all that's left.

M. Laitman: The wise see the future outcome.  

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:12:05) What is the role of the people of Israel? It was always at the center of everything happening in the world, the people of Israel, in the previous century as well. In the previous century, the people of Israel came to a kind of lack such that they didn't have any choice. There was a good teacher, I heard there was a good teacher. Who? Hitler, because he showed everyone that the Jews have to stick together but we paid a price for that, we paid a price, such a heavy price to reach a state of one desire where there's no difference in terms of social strata and so on. You have to be together, right? And people didn't look at the property, right? They were willing to live together, to go together, to save their lives and come here. Now, also we paid a price, I don't want to say, but we paid a heavy price to awaken and understand that we have no other choice. I just can't… What state of lack do we need to reach, of suffering, to truly understand it? Nothing helps, nothing helps.

M. Laitman: Yes, this is actually a good state where nothing helps besides becoming  incorporated in the upper one, yes. 

Reader: (01:13:58) Yes, maybe we can move to the next part of the lesson. 

M. Laitman: Go ahead. 

Reader: (01:14:04) Announcements.

Song: (01:14:28)