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Daily Lesson (Morning) August 3, 2024.
Part 2: Rabash. The Ruin as an Opportunity for Correction.
Reader: We are in a lesson on the topic “The Ruin as an Opportunity For Correction,” we will read selected excerpts from the sources. Again, “The Ruin as an Opportunity For Correction,” these are selected excerpts, we are in item number 8.
Reading Excerpt 8: (00:33) Man can toil and labor if no correction results from it. But for a small thing, which does not require much effort, if it is on the path of correction, there is no strength, since the corruptions come from the breaking of the vessels of the sin of the tree of knowledge. Since this is still not corrected, corruptions still reign. This reign gives power, which is not so on the path of correction. This requires a different governance, called “peace.”
Re-Reading Excerpt 8: (01:40)
M. Laitman: This is what is written, this is what is written. The correction is through peace. We will see what this means.
Reading Excerpt 9: (03:00) This Kli, called “receiving in order to bestow,” is the complete opposite of the Kli called “will to receive for oneself,” which we attribute to the Creator, who created it existence from absence. Hence, if we want to work only for the sake of the Creator and not for our own sake, it is hard work, since we must fight against the Kli that the Creator created.
From this work come all the lacks we learn about, such as the departure of the lights, the breaking of the vessels, Kedusha, Tuma’a, Sitra Achra [other side], and Klipot. Also, all the names we see explained in The Zohar and in books of Kabbalah extend only from the correction of creation.
This is so because we attribute the Kelim of the correction of creation to the creatures, as it is written in the beginning of Tree of Life, and as he explains in The Study of the Ten Sefirot, that the first will to receive, called Malchut de Ein Sof, said that she does not want to receive in order to receive, but in order to bestow.
M. Laitman: Next.
Reading Excerpt 10: (04:59) The essence of man is the heart. […] The heart is the Kli [vessel] that receives the Kedusha from above. It is as we learn about the breaking of the vessels, that if the Kli is broken, everything you put in it will spill out.
Likewise, if the heart is broken, meaning the will to receive controls the heart, abundance cannot enter there because everything that the will to receive receives will go to the Klipot [shells/peels]. This is called “the breaking of the heart.” Hence, a person prays to the Creator and says, “You must help me because I am worse than everyone, since I feel that the will to receive controls my heart, and this is why nothing of Kedusha can enter my heart. I want no luxuries, only to be able to do something for the sake of the Creator, and I am utterly incapable of this, so only You can save me.”
By this we should interpret what is written (Psalms 34), “The Lord is near to the broken-hearted.” That is, those who ask the Creator to help them so their heart will not be broken and will be whole.
M. Laitman: Questions?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (06:58) If man's heart is broken, where does he get a desire or a request that the Creator will correct him?
M. Laitman: Precisely because his heart is broken.
Student: From where does it even come to his mind that this is what he needs?
M. Laitman: He had a whole heart, now he feels his heart is broken, so from these two states he has something to do.
Student: Man starts with a complete heart? What do you mean he had a complete heart?
M. Laitman: To begin with, yes.
Student: What does it mean to begin with, sorry? When did I have a whole heart?
M. Laitman: Who?
Student: You said man had a whole heart, so who is Adam, man?
M. Laitman: Man, Adam, is one who has already reached a state where he wants to be like the Creator completely, from where I will resemble the Upper One, Adameh Elyon.
Student: So a person who has already reached correction goes through a process of shattering, then he comes to a broken heart and then he has the retrospective to see that I had a whole heart, and now I have a broken heart, and I want to go back to a whole heart, that's the process?
M. Laitman: Let's say so.
Student: How does a person come to this whole heart at first? I'm talking about the beginning, not the process of ups and downs afterwards.
M. Laitman: The first time, when he wants to be with a whole heart, but he can't, so he prays, and the Creator does him a favor.
Student: In this first time, why would a person want that? Where do you even get the thought before he had a whole heart, doesn't have a whole heart?
M. Laitman: From the records, that once he had a whole heart.
Reading Excerpt 11: (09:18) Our sages said, “Dispersion is good for the wicked and gathering is good for the righteous.” This is according to what the ARI said, that in the worlds of Igulim [circles], one Igul [circle] does not touch another, and there the breaking happened until it was corrected in the world of Yosher [straightness]. The meaning of the matter and the allegory is that the mind of the Igulim is that it is as one who surrounds and encircles himself, and becomes separated from his Maker. It seems to him that he will lead himself by his own will, and he is haughty and says, “I will rule,” and this was the shattering.
Likewise, among the wicked, the heart of each one is haughty, saying “I will rule,” which is why they are in the world of separation and cannot connect, like the circles, as we can evidently see, for they cannot sit together. To them, dispersion is good.
Conversely, although each of the righteous serves his Creator in a different style, they all aim at the same thing—their father in Heaven. They gather and assemble one by one, as one man with one heart, and each one diminishes himself and glorifies the work for the sake of the Creator, who gives him the strength and intelligence by which to serve Him. Hence, one will not be arrogant toward his friend, and they are in the world of straightness and unite with one another.
M. Laitman: Questions?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (11:34) What exactly are the definitions of a broken heart, a whole heart? A broken heart, does that mean that you feel sorry over someone?
M. Laitman: A whole heart means that a person feels whole with the Creator, a broken heart means, that a person doesn't have the correct connection with the Creator, but at least to reach that point that our heart is broken.
Student: You work with Him by agreement?
M. Laitman: No, a broken heart is when a person isn't agreeing with the Creator.
Student: He still works with him?
M. Laitman: He has no choice to such an extent, but eventually he knows that through his efforts, he can come closer to the Creator and the Creator will organize the shattering.
Student: There’s this one whole heart that used to exist in the past and…?
M. Laitman: Yes, there was a whole heart, it was shattered, and we need to check ourselves to the extent that it was shattered, and as much as we can't remain with that shattered heart, to ask the Creator to correct our heart. Then the Creator corrects it, and we're rewarded with the world of correction.
Student: Just for a moment so I understand, there was a whole heart, then the Creator came, injected some poison into the mechanism?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Everyone’s scattered. You don't work with the Creator anymore, you don't agree with what He does, so that’s a broken heart and that feeling grows?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Until some request or prayer comes and then you rise to Him and He cures you or something?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Now, a broken heart and a whole heart, that's only between the person and the Creator, that's not the work between people?
M. Laitman: I think between people too, we can't be good before we're corrected.
Student: Let’s say you just approach someone here, any person, it doesn't matter. You tell him you care for him, you’re concerned for him. He’s stuck on something, some barrier, obstacle. You come, you say that you care about him, and you want to help him. He just ignores you, he spits on it, he’s not impressed.
M. Laitman: So he has such a corruption, that he can't hear you. I'm not blaming him, he can't hear.
Student: But isn't it in his interest to correct it also, people here?
M. Laitman: Yes, but he doesn't feel it.
Student: What do you mean he doesn't feel, but every day he learns that it's important.
M. Laitman: That's not important. It could be 10 years that he's sitting here, he hears it, but he doesn't feel it belongs to him, that's how it is.
Student: So to just continue?
M. Laitman: Continue, there's no other choice, and actually, this subjugation that we attain, we just lower ourselves towards the Creator, that works, that helps.
Student: You always judge friends, people, friends to the side of merit?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Is there any situation where you shouldn't do that?
M. Laitman: It has to take place in each and every one, you just can't see what states the others are going through. Everyone's shattered, or they went through a bit of a shattering, or the shattering might only start being revealed right now, but it's in everyone.
Student: Yes, but when you come to a person with concern, you tell him you're important to me, I want to help you, he's not impressed, he doesn't even listen.
M. Laitman: So he doesn't listen, so what do you want to say?
Student: But you always have to judge him to the side of merit, even when he behaves like that?
M. Laitman: Yes, because the Creator gave him the state right now that he can't hear.
Student: Yes, but where is one thing opposite another?
M. Laitman: What are you talking about such a thing, one measured against the other? When you tell a person that comes here that he already has to be up in the heavens, according to...
Student: Not in the heavens, just friendship, it's not people who've been here for two days.
M. Laitman: No, no, whoever doesn't come now but already is here for a long time, they even have a bigger will to receive, and it's even more difficult for them. You see? Until you reach that general cry.
Reader: (17:08) Continuing with Excerpt 12, these are texts about the correction of the breaking. This is from Shem MiShmuel.
Reading Excerpt 12: (17:22) The intention of creation was for all to be one bundle, to do His will, as was said in The Zohar, that Adam HaRishon would tell all the created beings, “Let us bow and kneel, and bless the Lord our Maker.” But the matter was spoiled because of the sin, until even the best in those generations could not unite together in order to serve the Creator. Rather, they were individuals, alone, for one foreign Item in a bundle spoils the entire bundle. The correction of this began in the generation of Babylon, when separation occurred in the human race, meaning the beginning of the correction of gathering and assembling people to serve the Creator, which started with Abraham the Patriarch and his descendants, to have a community gathered to serve the Creator. Abraham would walk and call out the name of the Creator until a great community gathered unto him, who were called “the people of the house of Abraham.” Thus, the matter grew until it became the assembly of the congregation of Israel. And the end of correction will be in the future, when all become one bundle to do Your will wholeheartedly.
M. Laitman: Again.
Re-Reading Excerpt 12: (19:20)
M. Laitman: Clear? The text itself, is that clear? You don’t understand, ask.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (21:32) What do the souls gain from this process between the shattering and the correction? What discernments do the souls acquire?
M. Laitman: First of all they need to know the evil in them, how distant they are from the Creator, the force of shattering that is in them. And according to that, they have to know what their correction is, well about. They're not on the path yet, but they have to know that the correction is, the Creator corrupted, so the Creator will fix, but only if we request it. Meaning we have to discover the corruption, the length of it, and to ask the Creator to make a correction and connection on us.
Student: Why is there a need for this revelation of the purpose of creation without there being some preparation and a need for that shattering?
M. Laitman: There's a need for the shattering, that’s why it takes place.
Student: What is the need for the shattering, is it because of the purpose of creation? Why do we have to go through that process?
M. Laitman: That you can only know something from knowing its opposite. That's why all the souls have to attain how distant they are from the Creator, how opposite they are from the Creator, and how bad the state is. Then they have to understand, what does the correction depend on: only the Creator, and they must raise MAN, a plea, and in this way the Creator can fix them, by this they reach adhesion with Him.
Student: And the fact that a certain portion of humanity began this correction…
M. Laitman: Yes?
Student: Why did that part have to go through this entire process as well? As soon as the correction of the house of Abraham began, why do they need to go through that as well, rather than just continuing correcting and correcting more? Why should this group go through this process also?
M. Laitman: Everybody needs to incorporate in their vessels, that through that you can correct it all.
Student: Incorporation happens only on the condition that there’s a shattering? Can it not happen any other way?
M. Laitman: How? Only by shattering.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (24:42) It's written that a day will come when everyone will become one bundle. Does that refer to everyone in the world? Even those people who the Creator now sends against us?
M. Laitman: Yes, of course, yes. Each and every person in this world performs his duty that the Creator is obligating him to do.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (25:16) It's written that a foreign item, one foreign item in the bundle spoils the whole bundle.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: We have our Ten, our circle. How in my Ten do I make sure that there’s nothing foreign, some quality that is foreign?
M. Laitman: You always have to work on lifting your Ten to a height of unity, that is the correction.
Student: What does it mean that there is something foreign? Can it be a friend which I can't…?
M. Laitman: Foreign or alien means not in order to bestow.
Student: How do we make sure that in the Ten, internally that we are as one bundle? What does it mean to be as one bundle?
M. Laitman: We want to be connected with one another, all help each other, and in this way reach one man with one heart.
Student: In that connection, what is foreign? What does it mean that the friend opposite me now becomes a part of me, his qualities, his essence? How does he become a part of me, wholly?
M. Laitman: If we think of one goal, understand through which actions we need to reach it, and so on, we become similar to one another. That brings us close.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (27:10) Here it’s written in the book of Zohar, that Adam HaRishon told all the created beings, ‘let's bow and bless the Creator,’ but because of the sin, this matter was corrupted and they could not gather together to serve the Creator. Who is Adam HaRishon speaking to?
M. Laitman: I don't know, but that’s what's written.
Student: Adam HaRishon is considered to be the created being, right?
M. Laitman: No, the fact that we say that, it’s a story from our sages. Why do you care what happened there?
Student: No, it just says that our best could not gather.
M. Laitman: They have to return to the matter of correction and the connection of the correction of the shattering. This is behind us, we're already past that, this is because Adam HaRishon is broken.
Student: We have to assemble the parts of Adam HaRishon, right?
M. Laitman: Right.
Student: So what created beings is he talking about?
M. Laitman: All the created beings gather in them, all humans you see today are all fractions of Adam HaRishon, the first man.
Student: Right, thank you.
M. Laitman: Meaning that our will to receive is entirely part of Adam HaRishon, the first man. That's why we all need to connect, to gather, and to reach as one man with one heart. It all comes from that.
Reading Excerpt 13: (29:53) There is indeed only one soul in the world, as it is written (Genesis 2:7), “and breathed into his nostrils the soul [also “breath” in Hebrew] of life.” That same soul exists in all the children of Israel, complete in each and every one, as in Adam HaRishon, since the spiritual is indivisible and cannot be cut—which is rather a trait of corporeal things.
Rather, saying that there are 600,000 souls and sparks of souls appears as though it is divided by the force of the body of each person. In other words, first, the body divides and completely denies him of the radiance of the soul, and by the force of the Torah and the Mitzva [commandment], the body is cleansed, and to the extent of its cleansing, the common soul shines on him.
M. Laitman: Is that clear? If it's not clear, lift your hand.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (31:23) What does it mean, what do the sons of Israel mean?
M. Laitman: Sons of Israel is a name to whoever walks or must walk on the path of the Creator towards connection.
Student: Because we say that Israel is Yashar El, straight towards the Creator. That's the same definition, right?
M. Laitman: Towards the Creator.
Student: So what are the sons of Israel?
M. Laitman: That’s the general name.
Student: Okay, general name. Another matter, he says that the same soul exists in all the sons of Israel in each one wholly.
M. Laitman: Yes?
Student: So each one has…?
M. Laitman: The spiritual isn't divided into parts.
Student: And he writes that in the beginning, the body is a barrier, an obstacle.
M. Laitman: The will to receive to begin with, when it is in us as wanting to receive and opposite of the will to bestow, so it divides his desire into parts.
Student: He even writes that it obstructs, denies the radiance of the soul from him.
M. Laitman: Right, because if the pieces are separated from one another, the light can't enter them.
Student: So the beginning of the correction always starts with recognizing this denial, right?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Then he says that according to the measure of the body's purification, the general soul illuminates upon it. What is that purification, refinement of the desire, which to begin with appears opposite to the Creator and then.?
M. Laitman: The body goes through a correction, recognition of evil, then a correction. He asks the Creator to correct him to be in order to bestow. The desire remains a desire to receive, the intention from in order to receive comes to in order to bestow.
Student: I understand. So the refinement is with respect to the intention.
M. Laitman: Yes, we have nothing else to do. The intention, the desire isn’t important, the main thing is the intention.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (34:05) If we can expand on the place of correction for a moment, where is the place of correction, in the sparks or the purification of the body?
M. Laitman: That's the same thing. The purification of the body brings the connection of the sparks.
Student: What is the purification of the body and the addition of the sparks?
M. Laitman: We'll learn that later.
Student: On a practical level, in one of the previous texts, he writes that though they serve the Creator through different actions, because they all aim for the same goal, which is to bring contentment to the Creator, they can unite.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: So how to scrutinize, clarify our place of correction, our work?
M. Laitman: Clarify between you and each friend.
Student: What does it mean that we may act differently, but we nevertheless agree, different ways of working?
M. Laitman: That between us there are all kinds of relationships, and we don't try enough to bring them to the intention of the connection.
Student: I didn't understand.
M. Laitman: Everything that happens to me towards all the other friends, all my surroundings here, let's say. I see that I'm not directed towards my thoughts and speech and deeds to connect to them.
Student: So what is the correction about? Intention or act, thought, speech?
M. Laitman: The intention. How is the intention interpreted?
Student: How?
M. Laitman: In the intention, the speech and the deeds.
Student: So we don't need to agree just about the intention, we need to agree about the deeds also?
M. Laitman: And also about the speech, that everything we reveal, one towards a friend, it should be in a form that will bring us to connection.
Student: But how can that be, given what he says that the same way their faces aren't the same, their opinions aren't the same?
M. Laitman: For what?
Student: So we don't have to agree about opinions?
M. Laitman: We have to agree to everything a friend says if I see in him someone who is going together with me towards the purpose of creation.
Student: And if I hold a different opinion to him?
M. Laitman: So we have to scrutinize why it's different.
Student: Different opinion, we're different people.
M. Laitman: No, to begin with, obviously we're different people, but we have to reach a state that all of our thoughts, speech, and deeds will be similar to one another.
Student: So again, our place of correction is in the actions, thoughts, and speech, or in the intention?
M. Laitman: No, the intention is the result of our thoughts, speech, and deeds.
Student: For example, let's say we're now discussing how to connect better in the Ten. One friend says, let's go to a sauna. I just think about a sauna, I feel bad.
M. Laitman: So you say that you can't go to the sauna because you feel bad.
Student: But it will connect us he thinks, he says it wholeheartedly.
M. Laitman: He says it connects, and someone else let's say, you say that it separates.
Student: So we both have an intention, a good intention, to connect the Ten, so what can we connect over?
M. Laitman: So on this you can connect.
Student: But thoughts, speech, and action?
M. Laitman: So not every action.
Student: So I'm asking, where do we connect, where do we work to connect?
M. Laitman: By you doing an action, a deed, that will bring you to connection between you.
Student: Great, so he says...
M. Laitman: Not that he says, you and him together. Can you do a certain deed and be connected with it?
Student: We're divided.
M. Laitman: So if you're divided, don't do that together.
Student: So we need to find acts that we both agree on.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (39:17) I have a question about the concept of the shattering. After many small shatterings a person goes through, he starts to fear the next shattering he may go through. He doesn't know how it will be revealed. How to contend with that fear of the shattering that is about to be revealed?
M. Laitman: If he comes to it with the friends, he has nothing to be afraid of. On the contrary, he has to reveal the shattering and everything the Creator sends him, not on his own, but in his connection with the friends, and then he does not have any fear from it.
Student: So the shattering is between the friends, in the revelation of the shattered connection between the friends.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: So anything else that's revealed in my life as broken, as opposite, doesn't work out, how is that related to the shattering between the friends?
M. Laitman: I guess it's connected.
Student: So that's what I'm asking, it may be revealed not between the friends, not directly like that. It can be revealed as frustrations, crises, problems in life, so how to relate to that, because it may attack me over there, not here between the friends.
M. Laitman: You have to pay your main attention to the connection between the friends, then all the other things, they work out.
Student: All right, so how to identify that it's indeed between the friends, how to identify the shattering as being between the friends?
M. Laitman: If you want, in each and every state, to reach connection as one man with one heart, and you expect the light to connect you, then you are corrected.
Student: When we feel perfection, wholeness between the friends, what is that state? If the shattering is being revealed more and more between us, then what is that state of wholeness that suddenly appears?
M. Laitman: It's a sign that they corrected the shattering.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (41:59) So all the corrections that we make, we don't create anything new by that, right? We just return the vessels to their good corrected state as prior to the shattering, right?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: And the construction of new vessels, when do we begin to build new vessels?
M. Laitman: You build it through the corrections because you're adding to those vessels, you're adding the force of the shattering in there.
Student: So on the force of the shattering, I build new vessels.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (42:42) What intention do we obtain as a result of a proper act of connection?
M. Laitman: You don't attain that.
Student: You said that the intention is, yes, the intention is an outcome of speech, act, and thought, so we performed an act of connection…
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: With the intention to connect as one man in one heart. Did we attain any intention by so doing?
M. Laitman: We did it with the intention, so the intention took place?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (43:36) In the previous excerpt, we read that separation happened in the human race, meaning that correction began. So there's a direct connection between the feeling of separation and the beginning of the correction?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: And this is called God's work, connecting those two things?
M. Laitman: Yes, even the corruption is the beginning of correction.
Student: Right, okay, and if we remain in the feeling of separation, and we insist on working in that space specifically?
M. Laitman: They invite more trouble on themselves until they'll surrender, what can you do?
Student: Isn't that called the work of Pharaoh, serving Pharaoh?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (44:31) If everything is one soul, does it mean that the evil that's revealed outside of here is actually a part of me, which I haven't discovered yet?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: And if I had discovered it in the connection between us in the society, in the Ten, could I have corrected it?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: And if we corrected it, then it wouldn't have been revealed outside?
M. Laitman: No.
Student: So it really feels like the connection between us could have stopped all the evils from happening. For it to do that, it should be very powerful though. In our Ten, in our society, we're very open, we don't fear those revelations, and we know exactly how to respond and how to take care of all the evils that are revealed between us. But if right now, we feel that we prefer to an extent to ignore the evil because we're afraid of it, we don't know how to approach it exactly, where can we find confidence?
M. Laitman: From society.
Student: And if there's no confidence there?
M. Laitman: So from the Creator.
Student: And if there's no connection to the Creator?
M. Laitman: There's no such thing, you pray and you reach a connection.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (45:58) If the intention comes after the actions, also, I heard you say we need to surrender. What does it mean to surrender, because the intention comes after the act, so what does it mean to surrender?
M. Laitman: Because through the actions, we reach recognition of evil, and then we want to correct it, to correct the intention in order to receive. Then, how do I say it, we overcome and we ask for correction.
Student: And this is called surrendering, surrendering is asking for correction?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Because you may interpret surrender as just saying do with me what you will.
M. Laitman: That's very good, that's very good.
Student: So you don't even have a prayer at that point.
M. Laitman: I have a prayer that the Creator will do with me whatever needs to be done.
Student: So that's the actual prayer, right?
M. Laitman: Yes, yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (47:22) It seems to me that I can continue the friend’s question. We've read that the righteous connect together by each one of them serving the Creator in a different manner. Also we've read that connecting together as one bundle is very difficult, there are many conditions. Is it correct to start working by making sure that each friend has the conditions necessary to serve the Creator, to work on each friend individually and only then seek the common ground between us?
M. Laitman: No, to begin with, we have to work together as much as possible. Obviously as much as we advance, we'll be working together more and more to all kinds of size and depth, but that's how it happens.
Reading Excerpt 14: (48:29) Two discernments were made in the corporeal body: In the first discernment, one feels one’s soul as a unique organ and does not understand that this is the whole of Israel. […]
In the second discernment, the true light of the soul of Israel does not shine on him in all its power of illumination, but only partially, by the measure he has purified himself by returning to the collective.
The sign for the body’s complete correction is when one feels that one’s soul exists in the whole of Israel, in each and every one of them, for which he does not feel himself as an individual, for one depends on the other. At that time, he is complete, flawless, and the soul truly shines on him in its fullest power, as it appeared in Adam HaRishon.
M. Laitman: Well, no questions yet, read again.
Re-Reading Excerpt 14: (49:58)
M. Laitman: Questions?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (51:25) In the revelation of the evil inclination, there are degrees also. A person is shown some of the evil inclination and he knows that it comes from the Creator, he has no choice but to ask, he gets some power by which to continue. But there’s also a state we call a broken heart, a whole heart is a broken heart, meaning that a person has to reach the revelation that his entire heart is broken, shattered, and from that point he should reveal that he's connected to the entirety of the soul of Adam HaRishon?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: My question is about that state of a whole heart is a broken heart. Can a person pray from that state, or is that just a state?
M. Laitman: No, he can be.
Student: He can pray?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (52:29) What is a soul?
M. Laitman: A divine part of the Creator from above.
Student: And what is a person's ‘me’?
M. Laitman: The me, the I, the self, it depends on the state we're speaking about, but usually it's part of that desire that the Creator created.
Student: But the soul of the person, and the person's will to receive, what is the relation between them?
M. Laitman: The will to receive is the part of Adam HaRishon, from the general will to receive that the Creator created, and as much as that will to receive is corrected and gets an illumination from above, inside it, that's called a soul, NRNHY
Student: In the Ten a person chooses himself what to identify with, where to place his self, either with his will to receive, or with his NRNHY, let's say?
M. Laitman: Yes, that's what comes for him.
Student: So what is a person's essence?
M. Laitman: The essence is the part in him where he resembles the Creator.
Student: That's both the will to receive and the divine part from above, which adhere to each other when they work together?
M. Laitman: A divine part from above is called the soul of Adam HaRishon, the soul of man.
Student: The soul seemingly belongs to the Creator, but the will to receive belongs to man.
M. Laitman: Yes, but the will to receive that is corrected in order to bestow, receives inside it the light from above, right? And that light gives life to the soul of Adam HaRishon, which is in a person.
Student: If we talk about adhesion, adhesion is between what things?
M. Laitman: I don't know, it could be between two desires to receive, and it could be between the desire to receive and the Creator.
Student: I'm talking about the adhesion, which is the purpose of creation, the purpose of correction, let's say.
M. Laitman: The purpose of the correction is that each one connects to one another, and will all be adhered to the Creator.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (55:45) To the extent that a person feels the lacks of the friends, the lacks of others, to that extent he can also attain his own individual soul?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: And to actualize it like that, that's our work from below upwards?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (56:09) He says, in the previous excerpt he says, that the spiritual is indivisible. Now, here in this excerpt, he says that the true light of the soul of Israel does not shine on him in full, but only partially. So what does it mean that it illuminates only partially if it's indivisible?
M. Laitman: You don't know what a part of a soul is.
Student: Clearly, but…
M. Laitman: From a soul there could be a part, and not one, but as many parts as you want.
Student: If I may continue, after that he says that when a person comes to a state where he doesn't feel his self at all, then the soul shines on him in full.
M. Laitman: When he completely annuls his self.
Student: It works against reason, right? It's opposite, contrary to reason.
M. Laitman: Why? Completely not. You have a desire to receive. If you completely annul it, you feel the soul of Adam HaRishon.
Student: But then you don't feel anything, you don't feel yourself at all.
M. Laitman: You feel in your will to receive, the corrupted will to receive, you feel a correction that takes place by the light that reforms. And that light that reforms now, you get the same illumination as Adam HaRishon, the first Adam.
Student: But a person doesn't feel his self at all in that state, he doesn't feel that there's such a thing as him existing, he feels something else.
M. Laitman: Oh, that's the question. So he made himself resemble the Creator, so obviously he doesn't have the will to receive in order to receive, he doesn't have the same desire he had to begin with. Right, so that's what you mean that he doesn't feel himself. He doesn't feel that desire, he doesn't want to. That desire is, now it was passed over into in order to bestow, you don't miss out on anything.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (58:52) Correcting things that you see as broken, shattered, outside of the Ten, for that you have to assemble the Ten, and with that Partzuf, you can correct things outside of the Ten?
M. Laitman: No, if he has a Ten, and he's in the Ten, and he has vessels, so he can start correcting the vessels outside of the Ten because he already has something to hold on to.
Student: When we assemble the Ten, there's a certain kind of coarseness we need to overcome, and then we can correct things which are outside the Ten? That's the beginning of the work, right?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Asia): (59:45) What is that state where a person feels that he's included in the soul of Israel?
M. Laitman: That he is included in the structure of Adam HaRishon.
Question (Women Hebrew 1): (01:00:08) What is the measure by which one returns to the collective? How does a person return his soul to the collective of Israel?
M. Laitman: When he wants to connect to the general soul that he is part of, and he wants to shine in it from within what he has, that is called that he's equal to the collective. He returns into the collective.
Question (Women Rehovot 1): (01:00:46) How does this manifest in a Ten which has performed its correction? How does it manifest in the Ten?
M. Laitman: That everybody connects between them to a complete connection, and they feel that there's no other need to correct anything.
Question (Women Turkiye 5): (01:01:13) Is it possible for a person to feel wholeness with only a few of the friends, the members of the Ten, the group? Or is that feeling of wholeness with all the friends?
M. Laitman: With the whole Ten. Obviously with the whole Ten.
Question (Women Rehovot 1): (01:01:35) How should a Ten govern itself so as to not miss corrections?
M. Laitman: Constantly be in our studies, repeat them together. During the time of studies to try and be connected with one heart.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:02:15) Can I ask a general question about this?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: These materials we study now are called Ruin as an Opportunity for Correction. This is the times we call between the straits. We know these are times which are usually bad for Israel. And now we can actually really feel it pretty well. The period we're in now, we have an actual, we have existential dread.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: And also in the letter he quotes the prophet saying that from the north evil will come. You feel that all the signs are pointing towards something where it's a very narrow, frightening place. So I wanted to ask Rav, how do you feel about this period of time we're in?
M. Laitman: I feel that we're in a good period of time. I'm not afraid of all this evil that's being revealed. It comes from the north, from the south, who cares where it comes from. We have to understand that as much as we're connected, we're strong. And around us, there'll be a wall. And that's what we have to be confident in. And we have nothing else to do. We have to connect and pray, and in that force, we will go through everything.
Student: Baal HaSulam in the letter, after he writes that evil will come from the north, he says that we need to gather all these anxieties to one place, to be anxious only about God's word. What does he mean?
M. Laitman: That it's only from the Creator. He's the only one you have to be concerned about. You have to make sure you don't disconnect, don't distance yourself from Him and the rest.
Student: Is it enough for us as a group? Can we take that on ourselves as a mission? Can we sweeten the judgments by that, mitigate them? Can we include all the people in that?
M. Laitman: What the nation, it's a golem, there's still. It's enough for us, if we connect, if we will want to discover our point of connection as one point, there's no problem in this. We connect that point with the will to receive and build the whole tower full of abundance upon that.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:05:49) If there's actual threats now to the existence of the nation of Israel..?
M. Laitman: When was it not like this?
Student: It's always been like this, but sometimes it's more so. There's great anxiety in the people. So how to approach it? Should I not be afraid? Should I not be concerned?
M. Laitman: No, you have to be concerned. You have to work in it. But it's not that something special is happening now. It was always like this.
Student: And if we connect, us, then we won't have enemies outside of here?
M. Laitman: Of course not. It all depends on our attitude between us, on our relation between us.
Student: And it depends on us?
M. Laitman: In the distance between us, that's where you give birth to these enemies, the evil spirits that clothe in all those dead bodies that are between us or overseas, and they come upon us as haters.
Student: In certain periods, there's always a threat to Israel, but sometimes this threat becomes greater. You feel that in a moment something's going to happen. So what can you do in those times?
M. Laitman: Only connection. No, no, no, until the last moment. You can't say that it was decided already and there's nothing to do. No. You can't run away from it. Because you are in a war, a holy war, that you want the Creator's control to bring it to each and every person.
Student: The people, the nation itself, is also at war, or are we at war?
M. Laitman: Also the nation, also humanity.
Student: What is our role, Bnei Baruch, in this war? And what is the people's role, the nation's role?
M. Laitman: We have to explain to the nation, as much as possible, in everything we can, to behave correctly, and how we do that, in corporeality, without intentions, without special intentions. And if the people try to do it, it will be very strong.
Student: What do you mean by in corporeality, without any special intentions?
M. Laitman: Without the wisdom of Kabbalah, without such words, to relate and love to one another, to help one another, such things.
Student: So just good relations between people, in the nation of Israel, will do good to us. Where is the Creator here?
M. Laitman: The Creator is, by saying that it has to be between people, between Jews.
Student: Should we tell them about the Creator?
M. Laitman: Yes, but you can also not mention it. The fact that they're talking in that way, that between them there'll be connections of love, that's already bringing them the Creator between them.
Student: All right, now the responsibility, again, is on us, on the connection between us, is that sufficient? Or is connection in the people also important?
M. Laitman: That's also important.
Student: So again, I want to understand, if we connect, is that sufficient or not?
M. Laitman: No, because you still have the people, you have the nation, how could it be sufficient for you to just have that?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:09:55) How do we reduce the distance?
M. Laitman: Between?
Student: We said that because of the distance between us, evil spirits are born, and such like, so we want to reduce the distance between us. There's this feeling that if we're above all the problems, above all the things that make us distant to each other, we can speak nicely and talk about connection and love and so forth. But if we are on the level of the problems that make us distant to each other, it's a different level. There we have distance. We always say that we connect above the things that separate us, so it's not clear to me how to reduce that distance, ultimately, if we don't contend with the problems themselves?
M. Laitman: Between those two levels?
Student: Yes.
M. Laitman: We have to depict to ourselves as much as there's this and that, and that we, by connecting between us, we want to influence that state, that degree where we're separate from one another.
Student: But seemingly, we don't touch upon the things that make us distant to each other, that separate us, because we know that if we touch them, we can separate further. So we always remain on a degree which is, I don't know what to call it, just intellectual, just thinking, intentions.
M. Laitman: The Creator will correct it. We have to reveal the separation.
Student: And we don't need to take care of things?
M. Laitman: To a certain extent.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:11:54) Rav said that the more we feel the general desire, the Kabbalist feels the general desire, to that extent he also feels his own individual desire more. So the question is, what is the general desire he feels? Does it matter if it's in order to receive, bestow, or does he just feel his environment more, or does he feel it more?
M. Laitman: He feels the environment, and he feels as much as the good he can do to it.
Student: And what does it mean to feel himself more? Does he feel his will to receive more?
M. Laitman: Not his own, the general will to receive.
Student: Yes, you said the more he feels the general will, he feels his own individual will. There's no relation.
M. Laitman: No, we're not talking about that. He's incorporated in the public.
Student: In that state, can it take place without the state of Arvut, 600,000?
M. Laitman: No, no, no, no. Obviously, it's all made from all those conditions.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:13:15) Does the Kabbalist see what's happening in the world as a reflection of what's happening in the Ten, in our small world?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: And can we explain that in what we see today, or is that pointless?
M. Laitman: No, it's pointless. It'll just cause more confusion, and it's not organized yet.
Student: So we should focus on the work between us, right?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:13:50) Okay, but nevertheless, we see that there are many people in the nation who agree that we need connection. People speak about that much more than ever.
M. Laitman: Well?
Student: What can we do about that? What can we deduce from that, maybe? Or maybe we don't need to deduce anything, just continue as we are?
M. Laitman: We try as much as we can to be on the media and to appear there and to explain as much as everything only depends on the connection between us. That's it. We have nothing else to do, only connection.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:14:43) Continuing that, you talked about it a little, actually. We learned that the ruin is an opportunity for correction. The prophet writes that your destroyers will come out of you also. And today, we really see how we ourselves are causing all the evils that come upon us. But you said that we can talk to the public about connection without the Creator even, without the word. Is the public in Israel closer to absorbing this message that the separation between us is what brings about the enemies and the suffocation?
M. Laitman: We have to say that all the time.
Student: And is there a chance for that to be heard?
M. Laitman: It will be heard.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:15:38) I heard you say that up to the point of the end of correction, there will always be problems, always ruin will come upon our nation. So I want to ask, what do you see going forward? Let's say a year forward. What's going to happen?
M. Laitman: Ahead of us, I see only good things. And that's under the condition that we do what depends on us. We raise MAN.
Student: What do you mean by only good things?
M. Laitman: That's connection, and a fulfillment through the upper light and revelation of the Creator.
Student: But a few moments ago, you said that up to the point of the end of correction, there are only problems.
M. Laitman: On our path, right, there's problems. But if we overcome and want to be connected, like in the way Gmar Tikkun is inviting us, so we will change reality.
Student: So if we, Bnei Baruch, want to put a target, a kind of vision up for ourselves going a year forward. What should we do now if we want to build ourselves up for that time going forward?
M. Laitman: A complete connection where we reveal all the souls, all the vessels that belong to the nation of Israel, and in them we feel the Creator.
Student: And the people of Israel, what should they be looking at? They're in such a state of stress, stress from every direction, pressure?
M. Laitman: That in the connection between us we attain the Creator.
Student: So the people of Israel should also look at it as the connection between us?
M. Laitman: Yes, and the connection between us we reveal the Creator. It's time that we can say it fully.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:17:49) The fact you didn't answer a friend’s question about seeing my internality outside of me, how can I see that this whole situation depends only on me, not even my Ten, depends on me. Because I heard you say many times that everything happens in a person's internality.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: But I still cannot see that it depends only on me?
M. Laitman: I don't understand.
Student: I hope I'll find the right words. Ultimately everything that happens is what a person feels internally?
M. Laitman: We're not talking about that. Even when I see you, it's also in my feeling, it's my inner photograph.
Student: So we don't talk about that, we leave that for a person to scrutinize on his own?
M. Laitman: Yes, yes.
Student: And can we pray for that to see that everything is happening only within myself?
M. Laitman: No, that's obvious.
Student: It's obvious. Thank you.
M. Laitman: Okay, guys, I see you're exhausted already. No, well?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:19:24) When a friend asked you about the pressures coming from the north, the south and so forth, you spoke with great confidence and faith. Outside I understand that there are people who are anxious. But what can you tell friends here who are also very anxious? How should they gain the same confidence and faith that you have?
M. Laitman: I remember that there were such moments that I was really trembling. And I wanted to just squish into one point. And afterwards, I understood that it's, it's not right. That towards the Creator each and every one of us needs to stand straight and to demand an understanding of feeling, forces, connection, and then we can be above all of humanity. To really feel that everyone is small except for us. So, let's try to be that way. That's it.
Student: The foundation of confidence and faith is that There Is None Else Besides Him?
M. Laitman: Yes.
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