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Daily Lesson (Morning) August 4, 2024.
Part 2: The Ruin as an Opportunity for Correction.
Reader: Hello, we'll now be reading excerpts from the sources on the subject of The Ruin as an Opportunity for Correction, starting with excerpt 15, The Ruin as an Opportunity for Correction, 15, from Likutey Halachot.
Reading Excerpt 15: (00:20) The vitality, sustenance, and correction of the whole of creation is mainly by people of differing views becoming included together in love, unity, and peace.
Re-Reading Excerpt 15: (00:44)
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:16) Can you explain what it means to be included together in love, unity, and peace?
M. Laitman: Look, he doesn't write more than that here. Meaning that each and everyone who comes closer to this correction needs to know that his incorporation into love, unity, and peace, and interpreting these three terms is not simple. So by that, he becomes included with all the other creations and gives them the conditions to reach with everyone to the purpose of creation.
Student: And what's the difference between that and their differing views? How can you be in love, unity, and peace?
M. Laitman: The more their views differ and yet they reach love, unity, and peace, that means their connection is greater, higher.
Student: So, on what level do love, unity, and peace exist, which are different to their differing views?
M. Laitman: That each of them, above reason, is ready for connection.
Student: What is above reason?
M. Laitman: Meaning, even though they have many differing views.
Student: So what are they together in, what do they love, what do they connect over?
M. Laitman: They connect because it is the upper will.
Student: And then their opinions become the same, how do they remain different?
M. Laitman: Each one does not become equal to another but rather similar to the other on his part, but no one is able to change his nature at all.
Student: What's the difference between that level of differing opinions and the level above that where you can have love, unity, and peace?
M. Laitman: They don't change in their nature, but only through the correction over their nature they come to some identification.
Reading Excerpt 16: (04:29) All our work in prayers and practical Mitzvot [commandments] is to sort once more and raise all those souls that fell from Adam HaRishon into the Klipot [shells] until they are brought to their first root as they were in it before he sinned with the tree of knowledge.
Re-Reading Excerpt 16: (05:02)
M. Laitman: Yes, questions.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (05:48) What is the force that exists here, as he says, in the practical commandments and prayers that can raise the souls to their root, to raise the souls that fell into the shells back to the root?
M. Laitman: What is that force, I don't understand.
Student: Yes, the force found in the prayers and practical commandments.
M. Laitman: The vessels that descended into the Klipot by asking, praying, and doing actions to come out of the Klipa that rules them, by that they also get closer to each other.
Reading Excerpt 17: (06:55) You lack nothing but to go out to a field that the Lord has blessed, and collect all those flaccid organs that have drooped from your soul, and join them into a single body.
In that complete body, the Creator will instill His Shechina incessantly, and the fountain of intelligence and high streams of light will be as a never ending fountain. Each place on which you cast your eye will be blessed, and all will be blessed because of you, for they will bless you constantly.
M. Laitman: Understood, or questions? Understood okay, maybe read again.
Re-Reading Excerpt 17: (08:11)
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (09:16) It seems like the person who performs this action which he describes here, has his world-view changed.
M. Laitman: Of course a change.
Student: How does that change in world-view, in perspective, change the people around him, because he says everyone will bless him also, constantly?
M. Laitman: No, it's not that everyone, that's how he feels, that all those who reach that same degree, they see the same thing he sees, and they exist in the same action that he's doing, and that's how he accepts reality.
Student: He says, each place in which you cast your eye will be blessed, and all will be blessed because of you, for they will bless you constantly. So yes, this is how it will appear to him, this is what he'll feel.
M. Laitman: That's what it is, really.
Student: So if you ask those people, they'll say, yes, we are blessing him.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: And who causes who to do what, or they do it together?
M. Laitman: Each person according to his degree, as much as he labors, that's what he attains, and accordingly he sees and feels.
Student: I'm asking, how can someone else's perspective change when a Kabbalist performs his corrections, right? We're talking about Kabbalists performing corrections, and in his perception, the Kabbalist sees only good wherever he casts his eye, it's all blessed and so on. So if you're talking about him on His degree, fine, but if it's a person who's not on the degree of the Kabbalist, does his perspective change also?
M. Laitman: No, wherever he is, that's how he sees reality.
Student: So, he can't perform corrections for others?
M. Laitman: No. He can take an example, but a correction that someone else does it for him, no, no such thing. Help, assistance is a different thing. That's an example, and well, help to some extent, but not above this world, he can receive support.
Student: So what does it mean when we say that the Kabbalist performs corrections for the generation, etc.?
M. Laitman: This is that he's doing it so that his generation or the generation he's aiming for will have more success in their labor, but it's not that they get it for free.
Student: No free meals.
M. Laitman: Otherwise, they won't have any sensation.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (12:55) It seems that in this very beautiful text there are a few actions I want to scrutinize. He says that you lack nothing but to go out to the field that the Lord has blessed. That sounds pretty clear, Rabash talks about this all the time, to go to the right line first, the blessing, that's how you begin the work. And the second action, and to collect all those organs that have drooped down from your soul, and then another action, and to join them into a single body, so I want to ask about those two actions. What does it mean to collect those organs that have drooped down from your soul?
M. Laitman: Probably they fell, they drooped, and the person can recollect them and bring them back to their place.
Student: That's the separation, the feeling of distance he feels from the friends?
M. Laitman: These are the actions, yes.
Student: The actions, okay, and joining them into a single body?
M. Laitman: To the places from which they fell.
Student: The fallen organs?
M. Laitman: Yes, desires, intentions, actions.
Student: Or does he join the organs and the field that the Lord has blessed together?
M. Laitman: Together.
Question (Beer Sheva): (15:10) According to what we've read, we pray in the Ten, we make intentions for the sake of the friends. Now here, Baal HaSulam says that we're supposed to, with respect to the… we need to work on the organs that have drooped from our soul. Does that speak of the Ten or the World Kli?
M. Laitman: This is about people who wish to unite so as to reach the Creator and bring Him contentment.
Student: And if so, it means there's a certain transition here between the Ten and the general Kli, the vastness of that Kli.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Moscow 1): (16:18) Turns out that without this stage of incorporation after the shattering, it's not possible to assemble, to collect everything. Until each one goes and finds those fallen organs, it's impossible to reach unity.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Novosibirsk): (16:52) Sometimes there are friends who push their views forth, so do we need to annul our personal views?
M. Laitman: In the process of studying and getting closer and understanding, it's bit-by-bit labor.
Question (Women Heb 1): (17:27) You said that we cannot perform spiritual work for someone else, so how is it that I sit here in the lesson, I think about the Ten. Am I not doing spiritual work for them? We're not physically together here, and then I help them with the spiritual work?
M. Laitman: Yes. Okay, the next excerpt.
[Rav said that she needs to think about them, and then she does spiritual work, if she thinks about them]
Reading Excerpt 18: (18:13) Everything in reality, good or bad, and even the most harmful in the world, has a right to exist and must not be destroyed and eradicated from the world. We must only mend and reform it because any observation of the work of creation is enough to teach us about the greatness and perfection of its Operator and Creator. Therefore, we must understand and be very careful when casting a flaw on any Item of creation, saying it is redundant and superfluous, as that would be slander about its Operator.
Re-Reading Excerpt 18: (19:20)
M. Laitman: Questions?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (20:25) How can we truly expand the way we relate to reality, our perspective of it in such a way where we don't cancel anything?
M. Laitman: What's been canceled is canceled, what's not is not, but it's not that you cancel it.
Student: But the way I relate to things is such that I don't justify the Creator fully, I do cancel things out. So how to understand that it's a part of a process?
M. Laitman: Do what's written and you'll see that you will expand in your perception of reality and take in all of reality as governed only by a single force.
Student: What happens if I find that I do slander the operator?
M. Laitman: So that's the state you fell into.
Student: How do I come out of it?
M. Laitman: You ask, you pray, and you connect with the friends as much as possible in order to be above such thoughts.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (21:55) What does it mean he who comes to kill you, kill him first, or death penalty in the Torah in cases where it is permitted to do it?
M. Laitman: These are all the secrets of Torah. What is he who rises to kill you? How can you judge? And each one judges, that's a mess in the world. Not like that, we'll advance and we'll see why they wrote it this way.
Student: When it says something is forbidden to do, it means that maybe we're doing it without noticing.
M. Laitman: That's certain.
Student: Can we kill the desire?
M. Laitman: Yes, of course. That's especially what we do with children, with friends.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (23:19) You taught us that in fact forbidden means impossible, so it's impossible even if we want to erase something that seems bad to us. Is that what it means?
M. Laitman: No, I'm saying as it's written.
Student: As it's written, but we shouldn't think that we can erase something that is bad, or not relate to it, or not want to. So what does it mean to hate the evil, the bad?
M. Laitman: To hate the evil is up to us.
Student: So that's not called slandering creation?
M. Laitman: No, it's a force by which we remove ourselves from the evil.
Student: But we shouldn't try to erase it?
M. Laitman: No, that's only in the hands of the Creator.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (24:26) There is to correct it and to reform it. How to understand this sentence correctly, to correct it and to reform it. What does it mean that I have to correct my perception?
M. Laitman: Yes, your attitude to that thing that was harmful, and you wish to eradicate it from reality, and that's its correction.
Student: So I'm correcting only my attitude and that's it?
M. Laitman: What else can you do?
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (25:15) We see that in reality there's a lot of bad that in simple eyes it seems like would be good if it didn't exist. When Kabbalists look at it, they can write that you must not eradicate the evil, but if they could act, what would they do? They look at it from aside, but if they had to act, to decide, to actually do things, to manage, to govern, what would they do? They would have to eradicate the evil. When you look at it from aside, they see that the Creator uses the bad in order to advance everyone forward. It's impossible without the bad, there are two forces in reality.
M. Laitman: Yes?
Student: But if Kabbalists were to actually practice, to govern the society, what would they do?
M. Laitman: They would reveal that the laws of the Creator are running the world and leave no empty place, anything except for what was given to a person to do his part, to some extent. So they would understand that only there they have freedom of choice to scrutinize and to correct.
Student: To determine where it is possible to eradicate the evil, because there is a lot of evil in society today. How can you eradicate such a thing?
M. Laitman: That's why you have Torah and Mitzvot, commandments, by which you can scrutinize what are the things that are not good in this world that we have to correct.
Student: It seems complicated, thank you.
M. Laitman: That's called the correct use of Torah.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (27:28) I heard you said to the friend that it's forbidden to kill a desire. What does it mean to kill a desire and how can we avoid it?
M. Laitman: Not to use a desire, that you decide that you don't want to have it in you. Rather, you need to know how to correct it, and how to bring it to the good use.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (28:04) So, it's forbidden to eradicate the evil because it's got a role to bring the person to correction. So when it's completed its task, when a person made the correction, then it can disappear?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: So what's the right attitude, he also says you mustn't eradicate the good. What does it mean, why should a person want to obliterate or eradicate the good?
M. Laitman: I don't know, maybe that good seems to him as evil.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (28:43) He writes that observing the creation is enough to show us the greatness of it. I heard you say that I can be impressed by nature. He said no, that's not the place to be impressed by the Creator. If you look at the beautiful sunsets or the clouds, that's not the Creator. So, what does it mean?
M. Laitman: It's also the Creator but we can't use, rely, on these phenomena to say that look how the Creator includes everything and surrounds everything and does everything, it's little things.
Student: So when he says that looking at the creation is enough for us to show us the greatness of its Maker, what can we look at?
M. Laitman: If we examine a certain part of creation, then each and every part, it's not a matter of still, vegetative, animate, and speaking, it's creation. So each fragment of creation brings us the feeling of wholeness.
Student: It's not at a level where we can do it or is it? Because you said it's not the still, vegetative, animate, and speaking, so where is it?
M. Laitman: What do you mean yes?
Student: I understand you mean a fragment but what level of creation?
M. Laitman: It doesn't matter which level.
Student: What can we observe?
M. Laitman: Wholeness.
Student: But it says that we reveal the wholeness through a certain part, so what part can we see?
M. Laitman: In each part where you can reveal wholeness, you should observe.
Student: But what does it mean, in the relationships between people or what?
M. Laitman: It doesn't matter what, you understand? It doesn't matter what, if you reveal a certain wholeness in creation, observe it.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (31:11) This approach of the will to receive, it's like, inherent in us. The attitude of wanting to cancel everything. What does an attitude of wanting to correct seem like in us? To look at things from a perspective of correction, how does it dress over the natural corrupted attitude?
M. Laitman: I don't know, I don't understand, I don't get it.
Student: How can a person change his attitude where now everything that doesn't seem right to him, he immediately wants to cancel it, to kill it. How can he change his attitude so that he wants everything he sees, he wants to correct it, or to see it as corrected?
M. Laitman: If a person discovers in the world around him all sorts of phenomena which work in order to corrupt the world, to divide it into parts, to bring people to feel the feeling of suffering and troubles, in fact, to all the layers of still, vegetative, animate, and speaking. And a person needs to understand that he's being shown all of this so he would understand that creation has to be different than that. It has to be in connection, mutuality. And only in this way can he make it to the source, the essence of creation.
Student: The correction is in a person's attitude or should something really change?
M. Laitman: The correction is already present, however, we are shown laws and qualities that are opposite of the correction so you would understand the correction even deeper from the opposite form. To see the light from the darkness.
Student: Is there something that cannot be corrected? Let's say, I don't know, like something very old, that there's no point in correcting it, anymore?
M. Laitman: There's no such thing at all because there's nothing corrupt in reality. There's no corruption in reality, therefore, a person who discovers that, he discovers creation as developing and opening up, revealing itself to him in a gradually more and more complete manner.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (35:13) I'd like to continue: If we are corrupted in our nature, right, to begin with. We came to this world in order to correct so how can we see everything we see as the system of creation to teach us about the greatness of its Operator? How can we see this wholeness if we are corrupted?
M. Laitman: From the opposite point, we can see that, certainly, the world, the entire world is whole, complete, and all created beings, still, vegetative, animate, and speaking, they're all in wholeness. And only us, because of our evil inclination, we can determine that creation is incomplete, is not in wholeness. And this lack of wholeness is what we need to correct.
Student: How do I see the incompleteness as everything I see is wrong outside is in me and everything is the opposite?
M. Laitman: Correct yourself and then you'll see that everything is complete, whole.
Student: But again, I don't understand this approach, I want to see this world as complete, as good, but my nature doesn't let me see it. So, how do I still ask to see it as good, how do I come to a point where I see it as good?
M. Laitman: Where did you get that nature from?
Student: From the Creator.
M. Laitman: So, turn to Him.
Student: So, it's about prayer in me, and I have to ask for everything that I see on the outside is?
M. Laitman: There's no other means, there's no other means.
Student: So, this learning that I receive to see the world as more and more complete is actually in our work each day that we discover more and more corruption. I discover corruptions in me and I ask for corrections from the Creator. And I see more and more of the wholeness of creation?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (37:40) What is the feeling of wholeness?
M. Laitman: A feeling of wholeness, you can't convey it from one to another, in general, you can't convey feelings. Except if we experience the same feeling then we can point at them and we can understand one another. But really, especially the feeling of wholeness: Who is in it, who can explain it, and pass it, and direct someone to it.
Student: But he writes, we have to reach it.
M. Laitman: Reach it, yes.
Student: The feeling of wholeness, is it something that's permanent or does it change, as well?
M. Laitman: There are degrees in wholeness, like in any aspect of attainment.
Student: Because from our experience, there's a feeling and then it disappears, so we don't come to the feeling of wholeness. Maybe we are on the way to it but there are points where we feel something like?
M. Laitman: When we begin to reveal the Creator, to feel the Creator, then by that, in that, we feel degrees in attainment of the Creator. And those are degrees in feeling of wholeness.
Student: The feeling of wholeness, does it give justification to all the corruptions that we have?
M. Laitman: As a result of that, it has all kinds of repercussions.
Student: Can we say that the feeling of wholeness is attainment of the Creator?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (39:36) How does a Kabbalist relate to the enemies of Israel? Do they have a right to exist, is it forbidden to eradicate them from the world, altogether?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: What's their right to exist, for example, do terrorist organizations have it?
M. Laitman: Because it comes all from the hand of the Creator. Is there something that can operate outside of that?
Student: Everything is in the system of the Creator, obviously, but still?
M. Laitman: Still what?
Student: Well, if it's harmful and bad, then?
M. Laitman: He did that so we would correct the evil, and by that, reach the absolute good.
Student: If that's the case, so that completely cancels, I don't know, any justice that we can imagine, any law. So we shouldn't do anything, basically, everything in reality has a purpose, so we shouldn't do anything, we shouldn't move.
M. Laitman: No, you can't move, indeed, you have to reach correction, and revelations, and attainment.
Student: Until we come to this attainment, I'm asking, there are things that are bad and harmful in the world, at least in my view.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: How should I relate to it? Should I let it be or?
M. Laitman: No, it's according to what's written about them. You need to do what's written because you don't really know what is good and what is bad.
Student: That's why I'm asking, I don't know how to correctly judge extremist elements in the world, violent elements that destroy the life of others. How do I relate to them because I don't understand reality? So do they have a place or not?
M. Laitman: Well, you see, for the time being, that there is room for them.
Student: They exist but should we intervene?
M. Laitman: Yes, but can we interfere with that?
Student: Yes, I'm asking, should we intervene because it's written, anything that exists in reality, both bad and good, and even the most harmful in the world has a right to exist, and must not be eradicated from the world and obliterated. So, it means don't intervene.
M. Laitman: No, it doesn't say don't intervene.
Student: It says that it's forbidden to completely destroy it from the world, eradicate it.
M. Laitman: Completely, you can't eradicate it, completely, don't think you can do it. You can intervene in all of reality and according to how much you attain, there is room, there's place. If there's a place for a certain phenomenon in the end of correction or not, and you relate to it accordingly.
Student: So for example, at the end of correction, does terrorism have a place?
M. Laitman: No.
Student: That's why it's permitted to intervene now already?
M. Laitman: That's, this is, I don't know, to intervene now, tomorrow, in what way? There's all kinds of attitudes.
Student: So I'm asking concretely, how does a Kabbalist relate to it?
M. Laitman: Kabbalists would have liked to finish, to be done with all those things. But he can't do it because it's in the hand of the masses.
Student: So what's the approach, I still don't understand the approach, the attitude. When you look at such phenomena, the desire that these things would end, that's a desire. But in practice, should we act or shouldn't we act?
M. Laitman: You have to act on the ground and kill whoever comes to kill you, as it's written and that's it. And that's how you correct it.
Student: What does it mean that the most harmful thing in the world has a right to exist?
M. Laitman: Because through these negative things that we reveal and feel pain and horrible things about them, we do change. And we turn to the source and we take care of it. We correct all that evil, there's nothing else here.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (44:28) It's a matter of obliterating the seed, the descendants of Amalek. It's a commandment from the Torah to obliterate it so we do have to completely eradicate it, so to speak.
M. Laitman: I guess, yes, if you can identify who that is. Certainly not your cousins. That's it, Reader, what are you doing?
Reader: (45:02) We can continue or move to other source excerpts about participation in physical activities.
M. Laitman: Let's keep going.
Reader: (45:19) Excerpt 19 Baal HaSulam, "Peace in the World"
There are two authorities here acting [...] One is the authority of heaven, which is sure to turn anything harmful and evil to good and useful, but it will come in its time, in its own way, heavily, and after a long time. [...] When the “evolving object” is a living, feeling being, it suffers horrendous torments and pains while under the “press of development” which carves its way ruthlessly.
The “authority of the earth,” however, consists of people who have taken this above-mentioned law of development under their own government and can free themselves entirely from the chains of time, and who greatly accelerate time, namely the completion of the ripeness and correction of the object, which is the end of its development.
M. Laitman: Clear, Read it again.
Reader: (47:03) Again, Excerpt 19, Baal HaSulam, Peace in the World.
There are two authorities here acting [...] One is the authority of heaven, which is sure to turn anything harmful and evil to good and useful,
M. Laitman: Meaning, it's clear that this is how it will be.
Reader: (47:25) …but it will come in its time, in its own way, heavily, and after a long time. [...] When the “evolving object” is a living, feeling being, it suffers horrendous torments and pains while under the “press of development” which carves its way ruthlessly.
The “authority of the earth,” however, consists of people who have taken this above-mentioned law of development under their own government and can free themselves entirely from the chains of time, and who greatly accelerate time, namely the completion of the ripeness and correction of the object, which is the end of its development.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (48:41) Historically, Kabbalists could not change the external reality?
M. Laitman: No.
Student: So, they don't have this power, so only people, a great mass of people, only they can change reality?
M. Laitman: Also, in such a way that they don't feel like they're changing it, not that they do some hocus-pocus. They change reality through their desire, their impression, their prayer.
Student: Quantitatively, how many people of attainment should be in order to change reality?
M. Laitman: There's no such thing, the Creator doesn't do anything against nature, against those laws that He determined.
Student: Not against nature but there's supposed to be wars, right, a third and fourth world war. I guess we can change it so it passes on a spiritual level not in corporeality. Who can change it, we understand that a Kabbalist can't. A group of Kabbalists?
M. Laitman: A group of people can.
Student: So, a group can, the group is not the populace or regular people?
M. Laitman: No.
Student: So, if there's a group of, I don't know, 10, 100, 200, can they change? Or is it still in the hands of the nation, masses, millions of people?
M. Laitman: No, no, it doesn't have to be this way, it's not a matter of quantity.
Student: Why is it that one Kabbalist can't change it?
M. Laitman: Because he's one, what do you mean?
Student: So, what is his role?
M. Laitman: His role is to teach. His role is to draw people, attract them to it, but not. What do you see happening in all the generations?
Student: Yes, we see that it didn't happen.
M. Laitman: So that's it.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (51:05) A Kabbalist can't change the external reality?
M. Laitman: No.
Student: But we see that from generation to generation things do change. So, what are these changes, why doesn't the world stand still? And as long as there's no correction, there's no progress, things remain the same. The corporeal time passes and we see changes in society, changes in different forces in the world.
M. Laitman: This means that time is changing the world.
Student: So, what does it mean that time changes it, like the Creator does it, not a person? How can it be because everything is given to us. And what does it mean that the Creator advances this reality?
M. Laitman: There's an inner force in matter, in still, vegetative, animate, and speaking. And this matter receives orders, commands from within, which is the force of the Creator. And this force that operates it, activates it, activates it a little differently each time, a little bit more and more each time. Those are the changes.
Student: If there's a generation that didn't complete its corrections and time has moved on. What happens with the parts of the desire that were not corrected? How can it be that there was progress without completing the correction of the previous degree, if you can even call it a previous degree?
M. Laitman: We don't quite understand how this is happening, we don't understand what is the meaning of ending of a degree and beginning a new degree. How degrees change and replace one another, the connection between them. We will feel it, it's difficult to even explain it using our words.
Student: Because when we talk about it, it's not clear what is this reality that moves, thousands of years move, something seemingly happens and it's not clear what it is.
M. Laitman: It happens through the concealed forces of nature, and suddenly, there's a leap.
Student: Yes, because if I didn't make an inner change, how can reality change for me?
M. Laitman: It's possible that you did make it but you don't feel it.
Student: It's as if the Creator brings a person to the world and makes changes for him.
M. Laitman: Also, also, yes.
Student: We don't really talk about this part and it's not clear what we need to learn from it. Thank you.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (54:16) He says the governance of heaven and governance of the Earth, and the governance of Earth is people who took the above-mentioned law of development under their own governance, their own authority. What does it mean that they took this authority, this government?
M. Laitman: Well, let's say like during times of revolutions, wars, things of that nature, typically things that are not good.
Student: And he says that it accelerates the correction.
M. Laitman: Yes, of course, anything accelerates the correction.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (54:56) You said to a friend before that a Kabbalist can't change reality.
M. Laitman: No.
Student: I'm asking again, can he change or can he not?
M. Laitman: I don't know.
Student: You said that one person can't, but a group can.
M. Laitman: Yes, you can see it both ways.
Student: What group can change reality, what does it mean, I want to understand a group of Kabbalists? Or any group of people, basically, that comes together and it can cause a change in reality.
M. Laitman: The question is what do you call changing reality? If they start a revolution, does that mean to change it?
Student: No.
M. Laitman: No. So what does it mean to change reality? Changing reality means that people will accept in their desires and in their thoughts a different approach to reality.
Student: And a Kabbalist can't change in others?
M. Laitman: No, no.
Student: So, every person changes in himself. Can a group change for others?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Can we determine our next spiritual degree to decide, like to set a goal for ourselves? We want to have attainment, we want to reach a certain degree, can we determine it. Or there's a plan of the Creator and there's nothing we can decide here?
M. Laitman: To pray, that's what you can do.
Student: That's it, typically. Pray for what, for a change?
M. Laitman: For a change, for whatever you want.
Question (Women Ukraine 2): (57:36) Kabbalists like the Ari, Baal Shem Tov, did they change reality?
M. Laitman: No, they didn't change anything.
Student: We spoke about how the progress came, thanks to them.
M. Laitman: What there is, there is, what's the difference?
Reader: (58:09) We'll go to the next part of the lesson.