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Daily Lesson (Morning) November 24, 2024.
Part 1: Baal HaSulam. Introduction to The Study of the Ten Sefirot. #155.
Reader: Hello, we are reading in the writings of Baal HaSulam, in the Introduction to the Study of the Ten Sefirot, item 155. The study material is on the site, on the Arvut system, and you can send questions live through the sites. Anyone asking a question in the study hall should stand up, hold the microphone close to his mouth, and speak loudly and clearly.
Reader: Introduction to the Study of the Ten Sefirot, item 155.
Reading: (00:42) Item 155) Therefore, we must ask, Why then did the Kabbalists obligate every person to study the wisdom of Kabbalah? Indeed, there is a great thing about it, which should be publicized: There is a wonderful, invaluable remedy to those who engage in the wisdom of Kabbalah. Although they do not understand what they are learning, through the yearning and the great desire to understand what they are learning, they awaken upon themselves the lights that surround their souls.
This means that every person from Israel is guaranteed to finally attain all the wonderful attainments with which the Creator contemplated in the thought of creation to delight every creature. And one who has not been awarded in this life will be granted in the next life, etc., until one is awarded completing His thought, which He had planned for him, as it is written in The Zohar.
And while one has not attained perfection, the lights that are destined to reach him are considered surrounding lights. This means that they stand ready for him but are waiting for him to purify his vessels of reception, and then these lights will clothe the able vessels.
Hence, even when he does not have the vessels, when he engages in this wisdom, mentioning the names of the lights and the vessels related to his soul, they immediately illuminate upon him to a certain extent. However, they illuminate for him without clothing the interior of his soul, for lack of vessels able to receive them. Yet, the illumination one receives time after time during the engagement draws upon him grace from above, and imparts him with abundance of sanctity and purity, which bring him much closer to achieving his wholeness.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (04:36) It's written in the excerpt that every person from Israel is guaranteed to finally attain all the wonderful attainments. We always heard that every person alive will achieve adhesion. So what is this about, it's only about Israel?
M. Laitman: For the time being, first of all, it's those who belong to the people of Israel, but eventually for everyone.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (05:17) He writes, even when they're lacking the able vessels, when a person engages in this wisdom, mentioning the names of the lights in the vessels that are related to his soul, they illuminate on him to a certain extent. So what is this mentioning of the names of the lights in the vessels?
M. Laitman: He simply expresses those names.
Student: What does it mean, expressing them?
M. Laitman: He talks in them.
Student: With his mouth?
M. Laitman: Yes, with his mouth. He doesn't have any other connection yet with the vessels and their internality. But externally, he talks to them. And that's enough in order to evoke the surrounding lights, small ones, weak ones, from afar, but nevertheless, it exists.
Student: But a person on the outside, if he reads the study of the Ten Sefirot, it won't affect him?
M. Laitman: Also could be.
Student: Because we learned that in order for a person to have connection with the light he has to make some effort with his heart, to prepare himself for his desire.
M. Laitman: So to that extent, it exists for any person. Even if you take someone that doesn't belong whatsoever, not to Israelis, or to the wisdom of Kabbalah of course, and he will read, and eventually it will operate upon him.
Student: Yes, but we're talking about how it can act on us more. We're speaking about how we can learn so it influences us more.
M. Laitman: That already has to do with the study, with those who are coming closer to Him.
Student: A person who wants to come closer and reads these names, what should he do so that this illumination will influence him?
M. Laitman: We'll see. He's not talking about that right now. He's talking about without special actions of a person that wants to come closer.
Student: Or he just reads passively?
M. Laitman: Even passively.
Student: But before that, he says to the yearning and great desire, and then he goes on to speaking about mentioning the names, so he has already a great desire and yearning.
M. Laitman: There is.
Student: So how does he use them when he reads?
M. Laitman: He doesn't know how to use it. He uses the desire which pushes him, brings him closer to what's written, and then he'll explain how we can increase the illumination of this light upon us, and how we prepare ourselves from below for that light.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (08:22) He writes that he lacks the able vessels to receive them. What are the vessels able to receive them?
M. Laitman: To receive the lights, the vessels need to be in the same preparation, inclination, like the lights. So to bring the vessels closer to the lights, a person needs to study the wisdom of Kabbalah and to think how he brings himself closer.
Student: And then, if he thinks about how to bring himself closer?
M. Laitman: Then it bestows upon him, it influences him. The lights grow, and his desire changes as well, and eventually you have a meeting between the vessels and the lights, at which point the lights begin to clothe in the vessels.
Student: And then he receives the vessels that are able to…?
M. Laitman: Yes, for the reception of the lights.
Student: What are able vessels?
M. Laitman: Those that can receive the lights.
Student: How in a Ten do we create these vessels?
M. Laitman: I think that comes from the inner desire that each and everyone has. Because everyone connects, then there is with them already, this strong, common desire that demands, draws, the upper light to clothe the vessels.
Student: He says, we don't understand but we want to understand.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: It's like a boundary. We can not understand, and say, okay, we don't understand. But we can not understand, but want to understand. So, what is this fine line that makes you draw the lights?
M. Laitman: The fine line that draws the lights is where a person feels that he really wants to attain these lights, but doesn't know precisely how to do it, and tries to do all those actions that might bring the lights closer to him.
Student: So he's told, forget about your intelligence. You don't need to be smart, you need to work in the Ten, to want this to be revealed in the Ten, no?
M. Laitman: Yes, but that's the same thing, just more of an internal advice.
Student: What does he want to understand in the Ten? He says, they want to understand, although they don't understand?
M. Laitman: All the understanding comes from the clothing of lights in the vessels. Therefore, a person needs to think about this, how he comes to be closer to the lights from his vessels that he has in his desires, how he comes to come closer to the lights for them to clothe him, so he’ll be able to start feeling them.
Student: But he's told, these vessels are not in you, they are between us.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: So what does it mean to understand between us?
M. Laitman: After they connect between them, the Ten connects and wants to attain the lights, and operates in this, in connection, in rising from one state to the next. They begin to feel then how each time the lights impact them more. Out of understanding more, what their purpose is, actually, of the bestowal of these lights upon them. And that's how we advance.
Student: So there is understanding the connection between us, the space between us, and there is understanding what is written.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: How do the two connect?
M. Laitman: Them connecting is not truly our work. We can't really influence that directly. But we want to be connected to the source of the upper light, and it will influence us, and we will feel also the result of that. And after that, we will also feel Him, Himself, the light, and how it clothes the vessels.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (14:30) One of the things I noticed is that when we read together, whether in the Ten or here, it changes with respect to the person. So first of all, why does it happen? The other thing is, each one is connected to different words that open him up. Can that give us a direction of not being judgmental toward others?
M. Laitman: I don't know. You're asking about something that we're not studying.
Student: Okay, I'll rephrase. When we read together, what is the difference in mentioning those words of holiness?
M. Laitman: Eventually, we connect between us and read one source, and want to connect to it, and through it, to invite, to draw the light that appears in the source, so that that light will bestow upon us and illuminate for us. So that by it, as a result of it, we will connect with one another, all of us together, and we will have attainment from the source of the light and from the light itself, or lights. And that's how we’ll advance.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (16:26) What preparation is required in order to awaken the surrounding lights?
M. Laitman: The necessary preparation is for a person to have a desire to attain the light, which exists as surrounding light, and that he understands how important it is for him, for his soul, and that he wants to come closer to that.
Student: The desire to attain the light is a desire?
M. Laitman: The desire that awakens in a person is as a result of the upper light that surrounds his soul.
Student: What preparation is required of me if I have such a desire?
M. Laitman: To awaken the desire and bring oneself closer to the light, to the desire being impressed by the light that's in the soul, and influence the desire, and the desire will want to rise up towards the light of the soul.
Student: And what is a desire that awakens the desire?
M. Laitman: That's what is in each and everyone who feels an inclination towards the wisdom of Kabbalah.
Student: Sometimes there are long periods when we don't study the language of Kabbalah and the wisdom of Kabbalah, when we don't read from the study of the Ten Sefirot or source text that has the language of Kabbalah. What does that mean?
M. Laitman: It doesn't matter, but we're talking about the actions of the light, of what awaits us.
Student: So that too is considered mentioning the holy names and all that?
M. Laitman: Yes, of course.
Student: Another question. If a person feels bad in life, does that mean he is in lack of equivalence of form with the light?
M. Laitman: Not necessarily, there is not a direct connection.
Student: I'm trying to understand, because the light is in complete rest. So what are we awakening, ourselves? Or what does it mean to awaken the light, to draw lights on ourselves?
M. Laitman: By certain actions of ours, we can awaken the upper light to bestow upon us more, that we're drawn to, as we do all kinds of actions, whether in speech or in actions even, physical actions, by which we can bring the lights closer.
Student: What's the difference between the lights that we awaken when we connect for example in a Ten’s meeting, or a gathering of friends, or a meal, and the lights that we awaken when we read the source together?
M. Laitman: There's a difference each time in the inner vessels in a person with which he has already reached the meeting, and from them also the external vessels that are awakened by the upper light. When the light illuminates, the vessels change, and then they want to come to a state in which all their vessels become as close as possible to each other, connected, drawn to the lights, open for the lights. This is all already dependent on a person.
Student: So mainly it's the connection between us, and then we awaken the lights?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: So what's the addition of the source?
M. Laitman: The source illuminates upon us, it awakens us, it leads us from state to state.
Question (PT 31 & PT33): (21:29) How does the system of lights operate in the Tens? What's the condition for drawing the greatest lights?
M. Laitman: The condition for drawing the light is to connect in the Ten and yearn for connection with the light.
Question (PT 33): (21:56) Who receives the inner light?
M. Laitman: What does that mean, who?
Student: Is it in the Ten, an individual?
M. Laitman: The inner vessels, yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (22:10) It's written in the beginning of the excerpt, why did Kabbalists obligate every person to study the wisdom of Kabbalah? Since when did this obligation to study start?
M. Laitman: Actually, Kabbalists write about this all the time. The fact that we don't quite know about this or understand it, it's because it's not so known in the world, but the Kabbalists all talk unanimously that each has an obligation to engage in the wisdom of Kabbalah.
Question (Nikolayev Sochi): (22:58) How does the influence of the surrounding light change the situations or incidents that happen to a person?
M. Laitman: The change from the surrounding lights is what brings us, it brings us all the changes in our world. It all comes through the surrounding lights. The inner lights, we don't yet feel whatsoever, yet.
Question (KabU 9): (23:38) What is an able vessel, and how do we develop an able vessel in the Ten?
M. Laitman: A qualified vessel is one that's qualified to receive the light to a certain level and to work with it that way.
Question (Women PT 56): (24:06) Rav said many times that the closer we come in the Ten, we draw more light. What is the addition of getting closer and reading together, and what should the light do in us?
M. Laitman: The light which is drawn to us especially as we draw it, it shines upon us and raises us from one degree to the next.
Student: Now, during the lesson, how can the Ten draw the maximum light?
M. Laitman: Where we think together that we need to receive it, and that's why we need to incorporate in one another, all of us together, and that we want in this incorporation between us is to raise the degree of incorporation and by this come closer to the light.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (25:41) The truth is, I didn't remember how important it is to mention the lights and the vessels. I was not aware of it as I am now, and as the friend related to it. I'd like to understand. With my friends during the day I talk about discernments, the importance of the goal, the importance of the Creator, the greatness of the Creator. Is this regarded as mentioning the lights and vessels?
M. Laitman: Maybe in an indirect manner.
Student: If I'm speaking with the friends now about the greatness of the Creator, does that mean I'm mentioning the lights?
M. Laitman: No. Mentioning the lights is NRNHY, where you want to invite upon yourself in such a way that NRNHY will clothe you more and more and more according to the vessels.
Student: So what does it mean to mention NRNHY?
M. Laitman: When you talk about the coarseness of 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, and how in accordance with the coarseness the light clothes you more and performs all kinds of actions.
Student: So should we incorporate in the conversation between us this kind of style of speaking?
M. Laitman: It could be, yes.
Student: It's new to me.
M. Laitman: All right.
Student: Last question. He's talking about incarnations. If not, if one didn't reach the end of the way, he’ll have to incarnate again and again until he eventually reaches it?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Why isn't the way straight through? Why are there incarnations?
M. Laitman: It is simply divided to all kinds of parts, to all kinds of, it's pieces in accordance with coarseness, degrees, according to the world.
Student: When does an incarnation end and a new one begin? Is there a point where an incarnation ends?
M. Laitman: The incarnation changes when its vessel changes or ends. And then a person rises to a higher degree and begins the next incarnation.
Student: Can I feel during life that an incarnation ended? Meaning something I have already finished like a chapter and something new begins?
M. Laitman: We don't talk about that but it's probably something like that.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (28:56) You said that a necessary condition is the effort to connect. What does the effort to connect do to the vessel?
M. Laitman: It hastens the vessel, it advances it and scrutinizes its desires, as much as they need to be more connected, more directed.
Student: So when the vessel makes an effort to connect, like a suitable effort, it becomes a form that is suitable for the light to clothe in?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: That vessel, is it a person's own vessel, or is it…?
M. Laitman: Yes, a private, a personal vessel.
Student: And the vessel that receives the light, does it stay in it permanently, or…?
M. Laitman: No, it constantly changes according to the actions of a person.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (30:13) What does it mean to engage in the wisdom?
M. Laitman: Engaging in the Torah is engaging in the connection between the lights and the vessels.
Student: But he says that even when the vessels are able, the illumination influences him. So what's the difference between one who doesn't have the able vessels and one who does have the vessels and he wants to draw the light, what's the difference between them? Because in the end, from what I understand here, everyone receives in the end the advancement and the qualification, so what is the difference?
M. Laitman: The difference between vessels and lights that there are in each, compared to the others, to the extent in which each wants to ascend and to rise up together with others, with the whole world, and to the extent in which he helps and assists them all, that's the difference.
Student: Can there be a situation in the Ten where there are friends who still don't have the able vessels and friends who do have it?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: How does the light influence all the Ten rising together?
M. Laitman: Where all the desires connect in them and are aimed towards the attainment of the Creator, which is actually everyone's purpose. And all the forces that awaken in each and everyone also accumulate, connect, and come to that action, being aimed towards the Creator and obligating Him to correct their vessels.
Student: You said many times that the most important is to be in the lesson.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: What does it mean that the most important is to be in the lesson?
M. Laitman: Because whoever’s in the lesson is included from all those desires that are in each of those who are in the lesson, also in their body and also in their soul. That could be that today we have thousands through the internet that are watching, and that's important. This is how we connect.
Student: Yesterday we had an event and we got to talking, a few friends, about the scrutinies we do here in the lesson, which is also part of the drawing of the light, all the scrutinies we do here between us. And we said that we feel that if a friend asks a question, that we will continue each other into one whole deficiency. What is the meaning of if we come to a state where we are asking to continue, we are asking in continuation to each friend, or each one asks from his own personal deficiency? I'm sure there's a difference between them.
M. Laitman: Yes
Student: Can you explain the difference? Because yesterday with the friends we felt that we really want to come to a state where we will really continue each other in these scrutinies and not come each one from within himself?
M. Laitman: That's good. You're feeling how incorporation between you is important.
Student: So basically it's this incorporation, if we continue each other? So does it draw the light more powerfully than individually?
M. Laitman: Yes, yes, that's how we measure the vessel.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (34:40) What cleanses?
M. Laitman: What cleanses, what cleans? From what do we need to clean our vessel? We have to take out of there all kinds of desires that don't have to do with the purpose of creation.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (35:10) Does drawing the light, should it be accompanied by an intention?
M. Laitman: Of course we draw the light through intention.
Student: With the intention to receive, can we draw light?
M. Laitman: It doesn't work so much, because it contradicts the tendency that needs to be in the general Kli.
Student: So how do we know if we're drawing light, if there are actions that are more successful for drawing light, or less so?
M. Laitman: Only through our intentions to draw the reforming light that will bring us closer to a closeness between us, to incorporation between us. And for us, inside this incorporation, this connection between us, we will merit the revelation of the Creator, which is the actual concealed source.
Student: Can there be an action that we come to it without the intention, and it still draws light when we do it?
M. Laitman: Yes, it could be that we are advancing, and we have a feeling that we're advancing, and also a certain feeling from the closeness to the Creator, and then we leave.
Student: What's the sign that we succeeded in drawing the light?
M. Laitman: That He's being revealed and clothing us.
Student: How does it clothe, in the feeling or what?
M. Laitman: The light clothes in the vessels, in our desires, and if we in the Ten are with desires, with which each wants to help his friend, and to be as one man in one heart, then the light, according to the equivalence with our desires, clothes him.
Student: Let's say we had a meeting in the Ten, and we came out with a good feeling. Is this a sign for…?
M. Laitman: I don't know what a good feeling is.
Student: Well that's exactly the question. What is the sign that we have succeeded in drawing light?
M. Laitman: If you don't feel what's happening with you, then I don't know what to do. We need to try and aim ourselves to connection, so that each will be ready to disclose himself towards the friends, such that we all connect and protect this connection.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (38:50) What is a grace from above, where they draw a grace from above during the engagement?
M. Laitman: It's a force for drawing that comes to us from the Creator.
Student: It sounds like we can constantly awaken surrounding lights, and they will remain surrounding until a certain stage.
M. Laitman: We can awaken surrounding lights each time, yes.
Student: So what causes the surrounding ones to become internal? What do we need to do for that to happen?
M. Laitman: We need to have the vessels where the light can clothe. Otherwise, it will remain surrounding light eternally.
Student: Yes, it sounds exactly like that. Now, all the study of the wisdom of Kabbalah, there's friends that are more attracted to it and those that are less. What can we do so that everyone will be able to connect to it in a more, in a better way? Because sometimes it feels like it's a bitter medicine, that you don't want to go into the depth of the wisdom.
M. Laitman: You need to together unite, and bring that unity into a form where the Creator can clothe in you.
Student: How is the approach of helping students understand the lights, the screens, and all that?
M. Laitman: There are those who cannot work with the lights in the vessels, and there are those who cannot work with desires and connections. There are all kinds, but when a little bit of light comes, a person begins to understand what it's about, and he no longer has any remoteness from it, distance from it.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (41:16) Would it be correct to understand that the inner lights can close only in a Ten, in connection?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: And the surrounding lights every person can do, and it's also relatively easier work, because it comes from the desire to receive of a person. He wants, he has a desire and yearning, so he works with his desire to attain the lights during the reading. Compared to the work in the Ten, which is very difficult because you have to work with something external to yourself, with vessels, with friends, with external vessels to a person, meaning not from one's desire, but it's clear that you need the combination of the two. The question is, to attain the connection, what leads us to that? Because it's very difficult to perform meaningful actions in the work of connection from ourselves. What light really brings, because also the connections we get from above, but what eventually brings him step after step?
M. Laitman: The extent to which the Ten that a person is in, in everyone more or less, it is extended in being a general vessel for the light. This is number one. And the extent to which each one takes example from the others in the Ten. To the extent that each one must be inspired by the light, impressed by the light, in order to be from within his own vessel drawn after the light.
Student: It turns out that an individual person in the Ten, it's very important for him to attain the internal lights and the implementation to make sure that his whole Ten is functioning as much as possible, bestowing to one another.
M. Laitman: In general, yes. But I hear that you have meetings once, twice a week, and sometimes even every day. In other words, basically you have the conditions.
Student: Yes, also the weekly meetings, let's say twice virtually. Also we talk, we engage in the lessons. So these things advance us to the matter itself, which is so painful, the difficulty in connection?
M. Laitman: Yes. Precisely this advances.
Student: Another thing to scrutinize is the matter of the surrounding lights. How do the surrounding lights influence us to attain the desire for connection, or the ability to connect?
M. Laitman: They influence us as surrounding light, and we, by feeling the surrounding light, feel ourselves as if we're not in our place. If there is some place, some other place, where we should be, and where we are now is not fitting, not intended for us. And then we do all kinds of movements, actions, means, in order to move ourselves to a more suitable place.
Student: You sometimes feel despair or frustration after this engagement that's filled with wisdom in this way. That's actually the place where the light teaches you, that you have to come to a certain change, connection with the Ten?
M. Laitman: Yes, yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (45:56) What is to complete His thought?
M. Laitman: What the Creator wants to give to the created beings, to bring the created beings to a certain connection with Him, this is called, this is what we have to reach.
Student: To what extent does it depend on me or on the Ten?
M. Laitman: It depends, it depends on you.
Student: I remember that Rav mentioned once, as he was asked, what an incarnation is, and he said an opportunity.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: So here he talks about this incarnation, how to not miss this incarnation, the opportunity?
M. Laitman: Yes, that depends on people, on how ready they are to use all the forces and qualities that are in you for the purpose of advancing.
Student: One last thing.
M. Laitman: Yes?
Student: Upon that same strong desire and yearning that a person has to understand, he awakens the surrounding lights, and a few lessons ago, you mentioned that the yearning observes all the conditions.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: What is the yearning, sustains or observes all the conditions?
M. Laitman: Through the yearning, we reach the goal, that's it. There's a goal, I reveal a yearning for it, and in this way I come closer to it.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (48:00) Is the drawing of the light only valid personally for myself, or also for my friends?
M. Laitman: That's hard for us to detect where I am, where my friends are, where we are together, or half of us, or a quarter of the group. We currently cannot scrutinize this, clarify.
Student: Maybe without the active participation of a friend, can I awaken him, can demand a change in him?
M. Laitman: Perhaps, perhaps. Pray.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (48:51) There was a question, how a person can feel that the surrounding light worked on him. Can you say that every action a person does, he feels more importance, more necessity to come closer to a friend? Did the light operate upon him?
M. Laitman: And?
Student: Did the light act upon him? Could you say it?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: So just in that feeling?
M. Laitman: Yes, yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (49:22) To begin with, there's a strong desire and yearning to understand, it's an egoistic desire. What happens to that desire? Something's revealed above it, it disappears, the desire to connect replaces it. What happens to it?
M. Laitman: We will learn, we will learn it at once, not today.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (49:52) Baal HaSulam says that the drawing of the reforming light is through the strong desire that each person has to understand, and we added that it also has to be out of a desire for connection and in the work of connection. This can't work without that, or yes? If a person just sits and mentions the words that belong to his soul, engages individually with the source material, does he draw the reforming light?
M. Laitman: No.
Student: If a person engages only in connection but doesn't join the sources, does he draw the reforming light?
M. Laitman: Also, not enough, but somehow he nevertheless advances.
Student: Meaning in our times, this is very essential what I'm hearing right now, in our times it's more important to exert in connection than to try to connect to the Kabbalistic sources?
M. Laitman: Yes, yes, yes.
Student: Okay, now about the desire and the strong desire and yearning. Sometimes a person doesn't have a strong desire and yearning. First of all, he writes this strong desire and yearning to understand, which is like it almost goes, he's going to hear, and we always talk about it, we want to feel the connection between us, the Creator that dwells between us. Why does he put an emphasis on to understand what's written?
M. Laitman: Understanding means the heart understands.
Student: So he is actually, he's talking about feeling.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: So sometimes when he doesn't have a strong yearning and desire, so we say a person comes and he's like a log, or he's just like a sack of dust. He says, we say, come and the light will operate on you. So how does that work? Because there's no desire or yearning, he comes and he puts him somehow in the corner.
M. Laitman: The fact that he's nevertheless making an effort to place himself among those who are studying now, by this is like a baby among grown-ups. And then he somehow hears what they are talking about, and that influences him as surrounding lights.
Student: This is a real passive action.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Sometimes we talk about descents and disconnects, a person advances the most. So if a person does this passive action, the light works the most powerfully. Why does it work that way?
M. Laitman: Because he doesn't have more active vessels out of what he awakens. And then they determine how much a person can advance, even in these states.
Student: The drawing of the light here, Baal HaSulam guides it towards an individual engages, we're talking about us. But the question is whether our engagement in what draws light is also for the collective?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Let’s say for all of Israel?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: How does that work? Just from passive incorporation, or do we have to activate our prayer for them all the time?
M. Laitman: Through surrounding lights, also toward them. There are nevertheless all kinds of deficiencies among them on the level of this world. And this is why we can shine for them something from our surrounding lights.
Student: This has to be with awareness, with the consciousness that we're going to bestow upon them?
M. Laitman: It happens. To the extent that we can add to it deliberately, this we need to learn.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (53:56) He writes in the end of this item, that during the engagements, we draw the grace from above and imparts him with abundance of sanctity and purity, which bring him much closer to achieving his wholeness. Meaning there's this grace that comes and dissipates. It's a place where there's not a Kli yet. How does he hold on to him needing to reach wholeness?
M. Laitman: It's not like he is holding it, it's the lights advancing him to it. And he does as much as he understands, as much as he can, as much as he is able to, according to his will, according to the relations. But in fact, in truth, it is all in order to give a person a place to realize himself.
Student: Meaning, according to your answer, the light does everything. It awakens the grace from above and also departs the light and builds a Kli inside it?
M. Laitman: No, in terms of the action, the person must participate.
Student: Because you answered earlier that after the grace from above, we need to be in the intention to pass it to the friends within him.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: To pass this for the Kli so we can reach wholeness. Is this something we're supposed to hold on to all the time when we're working?
M. Laitman: All the time, as much as we can, as much as we can.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (55:51) During the lesson, what is best for us to work now, each towards his Ten, or to simply, the lesson every day is one Ten that's gathering?
M. Laitman: During the lesson, our Ten is the whole world, the whole world. Anyone who, everyone who connects to us is incorporated in our Ten.
Student: Meaning, every friend here that asks the question is my Ten, a friend in my Ten. I need to clothe in him, to think about his deficiency.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (56:44) It's written in the end there, that they draw grace from above and advance a person to his wholeness. The question is whether there could be wholeness of an individual without the collective wholeness?
M. Laitman: I didn't hear you.
Student: I'm asking whether there can be wholeness for one individual without there being wholeness in the general?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (57:31) I want to continue what the friend asked. Years ago, we weren't Tens, we talked about the concept of group. Group, society, and whatever Rabash writes, we try to implement towards this concept of group, more individually to every friend. Then we divided to Tens. Now we're in Tens. Did the work change? Because I'm hearing mostly that you're saying that the work is in the Ten. What's the Ten? It's actually these friends, these people that are sitting here, and I need to lock myself to work with them and think just about them. And if I think about someone else, you once said that's like breaching the borders, you said that once.
M. Laitman: Well, it depends with respect to which states.
Student: Let's say now that we're sitting in the lesson, so on one hand…
M. Laitman: Now, all of you with the whole world Kli that is with us, as many as there are, you're all in one vessel, in one desire. We're learning the same material. We're speaking about states that are clear to us what states they are. And this is how we connect.
Student: Yes, but on behalf of an individual, let's say a friend, as I sit here, I need to think that I and every friend in the world Kli, we are all one group?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Sometimes you say, no, you need, first of all, to be in the Ten, and that through this Ten, think. And everyone is kind of like in the Tens, and the world Kli is some kind of adjunct of Tens, but not of individuals.
M. Laitman: That's not related to our general lesson as we are here now.
Student: So what does it have to do with?
M. Laitman: Instead each one should think about how he advances himself.
Student: So that small group, the Ten that I'm in, is that my spiritual Kli, or is my spiritual Kli actually all of us, the whole group, the world group?
M. Laitman: If you're together as a Ten, then that's your vessel.
Student: And what is it if we're together now?
M. Laitman: I don't know what about you.
Student: No, I hear Rav's advice, he says now you need to be the whole world Kli, in one group, so I'm trying to aim myself according to what Rav said.
M. Laitman: If you are in one group, then everyone must think about how they are incorporated in that group.
Student: When do we divide to Tens, and what state does that happen?
M. Laitman: When do you divide into Tens? When you're not connected, all of you together in one Ten.
Student: Meaning if there's a group action where the whole big group, and each sits without his Ten and adheres to his big group like this?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: And when we have an action in the small group, then we're between us.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: So let's say the concept of Arvut, who do I define this Arvut with? Who do I decide it on?
M. Laitman: You establish Arvut, the mutual responsibility, with a group where everyone agrees generally to work on the mutual responsibility between them.
Student: So there are such in the whole world Kli.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: Meaning the Arvut is in the general group.
M. Laitman: That's why in the form of the morning lesson, you're all incorporated in the general lesson, in the common group, and you have to think about how you are incorporated in it.
Student: And we go out for the day?
M. Laitman: Also, don't think differently.
Student: Exactly. So that group, it's an inner connection that exists also throughout the day.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: So my Arvut is towards this concept.
M. Laitman: But to begin with, initially, it's only toward the Ten.
Student: Also what?
M. Laitman: So what's the difference? Toward the Ten you have to be, I am for them and they are for me. And toward the world group, you're in it, you're participating in it, with all of your energy and all your vessels in order to connect them together to you, and you connect as much as you can to the common vessel.
Student: So during the day, let's say, what is it that you said that, towards the Ten, it's I for them and them for me, and what is they different than, let's say, that world group?
M. Laitman: They are more or less with you together. In hearing this lesson, no?
Student: Everyone is in, listening to the lesson.
M. Laitman: So?
Student: So it depends on my attitude, but my attitude has to do with how I understand your advice. During the day, let's say, during the lesson, I understood that I need to be part of the general group. During the day, I'm not talking about the physical matter that we're talking here between us, but where my heart is. My heart needs to be in the center of my small group?
M. Laitman: First of all.
Student: Okay, so during the day, I think about them first, and during the lesson, I think about everyone, or also first about them?
M. Laitman: Also, but you need to say for yourself where you are, where you are leaning.
Student: Where I'm leaning, I know I could say it's egoistic, and I'm trying to follow your advice instead of my advice.
M. Laitman: Never mind.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:04:33) During the morning lesson, every individual aims himself towards his individual Ten or towards the world group?
M. Laitman: To the Ten and to the world group.
Student: Meaning through my individual Ten to the group, that's the right order?
M. Laitman: Yes, yes.
Student: Because I was also asked now, why are we sitting physically in our Ten if we're all one group?
M. Laitman: Only because of this.
Student: And in our conventions, which is in world action?
M. Laitman: I think it's better if during conventions we remain in the Tens, but in one convention. Now, too, we are in a convention.
Student: What's the meaning of this physical sitting with my Ten? What is there in it if we want to feel something much greater now?
M. Laitman: Because you, first of all, connect among yourselves. Each day you are connected with the friends. And besides this time when you are among yourselves, you are also connected with the world Kli. You want this vessel to move toward unity.
Student: Do you see times in which we will incorporate in one another, meaning sit in other Tens, sit in… Meaning there's this tendency for friends, maybe I’ll sit now with them, and they'll sit with me, and I will feel like this family, it doesn't matter who's sitting next to who.
M. Laitman: No.
Student: Why not? We have a common purpose, so why, it's not clear why we're limiting ourselves in a Ten, physically.
M. Laitman: Because besides the Ten, you have nothing. You also have the world Kli, you have humanity, but all of it is not an example, a spiritual example.
Student: Here, it's not to incorporate with all humanity. I'm talking about people that have a common goal, that to all together, to the world Kli, there's a common goal, to reveal the Creator between us, to bring Him contentment.
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: So what's the difference between these friends that I'm sitting with now physically in the Ten, and the friends from another Ten? After all, it's the same goal for every Ten, no? Or is there…?
M. Laitman: There is no difference, except that when you sit together, it makes you special.
Student: Does every Ten have a different characteristic?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: A different goal?
M. Laitman: Yes. Yes, well in some way.
Student: And therefore, if we mix between friends in Tens, it has an impact on the characteristics and goal of the Ten?
M. Laitman: Try, and you'll see that you will have it.
Student: And that's to detriment.
M. Laitman: Yes
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:08:10) This thing with relating to the connection in the individual Ten, or to the whole group as a Ten, it could be that it's something that we can work with in a freer way, where one moment I feel more power from the general groups, so I use that, and then I come back to my Ten, and give my forces there, and feel like I can give even more forces here or there. Is it like a game we can play with it?
M. Laitman: Yes.
Student: It's something that can serve as a regular method, even throughout the day? Can this work this way?
M. Laitman: Try.
Student: Isn't that egoistic? Sometimes I feel that it's easier for me to connect, let's say, to the general group, it's very difficult for me in the Ten. Is it correct to actually work where it's comfortable for me?
M. Laitman: No.
Student: So how do I make these transitions, according to what?
M. Laitman: Where it is easier to be directed toward the purpose of creation.
Student: Where it’s easier? So again, there's times where it's really difficult for me in the Ten. And then specifically, even before we worked in the Tens, like the friend mentioned here, it was simple, I'd go out of my house, I'd think about the whole world Kli, that each is going to the lesson, and there was this upliftment and a great power. And specifically, the work in the Ten seems more difficult to me, or maybe it's vice versa. Ao how do I choose, according to what? According to the goal I understand, but…?
M. Laitman: To the extent that it's far from the will to receive. Try to judge yourself in this way.
Question (Petah Tikva Center): (01:10:46) Why can't we cross a law in order to observe another law?
M. Laitman: Because it's one of the laws, one of the rules.
Student: It is known that in its due time is the path of suffering, it's also known that Lishma is the path of pleasure, meaning the path of Torah, which is beautiful and fast, illuminating and shining, like the radiance of the Zohar, of the firmament.
M. Laitman: Okay.
Reader: We can move to 156, or move to On the Verge of Lishma.
M. Laitman: 156? No. On the Verge of Lishma.
Reader: (01:11:52) There are select excerpts, we’re in excerpt number Ten, but maybe we can sing a song first, and then move to the next part.
Song: (01:12:00)