Part 3: Baal HaSulam: LOVE OF THE CREATOR AND LOVE OF THE CREATED BEINGS
1. S. (02:51) The whole lesson we had also today, we are trying to bring into reason something that is above the reason. Eventually everything that we are studying about, the light should bring us to recognition or a feeling that we are not even there, and only in the upper force can bring us there and what we are creating between us is just a yearning for it?
R. Yes.
S. Wouldn't there be a state that our ego confuses us? That at least I hear that the friends are saying I'm going above reason, we are connected in all kinds of terms that actually only when a person reaches spiritual attainment can he be in them.
R. Could be, I don't know.
S. I don't know what ‘could be’ means, either I am there or I am not there. There is nothing in the middle.
R. Right.
S. The feeling of a person that he supposedly is above reason actually causes him to not ask the Creator, or he doesn't feel that he is not there and know the gap between his state and the desired state. We are missing out on the prayer, to reach it?
R. Yes.
S. How do we eventually reach this mutual deficiency and the mutual understanding that guys, what we need to do is understand and feel that we are not there and only the Creator will bring us there and only the cry for help is what will lead us there?
R. I think everyone agrees with you.
S. If everyone agrees, how do we do it? Not like in the ARI that we are going to ask to go home and ask questions, but actually create this necessity in this moment, and not after the hummus meal.
R. That is going to be soon. I see that they are ready, the friends, so they are ready for the hummus, and me too. In short, awaken them.
2. S. (05:32) Once you said that whatever the mind will not do so the time will do, and whatever time won't do, the mind will do. What I concluded is that we need patience, it takes a lot of time. What can I do? He writes that all the commandments are some of the details.That relate to ‘Love Your Friend as Yourself.’ What does it mean that all of the Commandments?I thought that it is like a relationship. What does he mean when he says this?
R. Again, what is that sentence that touches you?
S. What does he mean that all the 612 Commandments are a sum of the verse ‘Love your friend as Yourself?’
R. That I relate to that.
S. What does it mean that it helps us advance the process, what does it mean?
R. That is how it is that it is connected and it belongs to it.
S. What are 612 Commandments?
R. Don’t put us into that.
S. This all belongs to ‘Love your Friend as Yourself?’ What are we lacking here except for that?
R. Love.
S. Love between us, I see.
R. Yes.
3. S. (07:29) He writes that every detail carries a point inside him?
R. Yes.
S. Will we ever know about each and every detail, or only of the sum, or maybe we do not even need to know, in order to know the sum I have to know every detail?
R. I don't know. I did not go through all these parts or the connection between them, I do not know.
S. But should we make an effort?
R. I don't know.
4. S. (08:16) You said in the first part of the lesson that the system that gets corrected doesn't engage with a shattered part itself but only in the relationships between the parts. Also here there is the article of love of man and love of God, Love your friend and what not to do? The corrections we read about in the preface. Why is this part not corrected on its own but its relationships?
R. I didn't understand.
S. The shattered parts, why is the correction in the relationships between them and not towards something else?
R. The correction is always in the relationships between the parts, because our entire matter is the shattering or to the contrary, the whole matter is in order to reach understanding of connection. It doesn't matter to me each and every part what it is in and of itself, but truly what is its connection with all the other parts? That is the method, not just the method but that is the creation, the connection between the different parts.
S. He has a package of shattered desires and you said that you should sort them out, which parts I can organize today better, maybe less, maybe tomorrow? And it is all in the Ten, the relationships between the friends too?
R. Yes.
S. As a system called Ten, what should every friend do and agree that the light will come and correct it.
R. That as much as he can be connected between the friends so he is ready for that. He is ready to be that connecting part. From that in which you will be the connector, then he will know to the extent of connection, the kind of connection, the laws of connection. That is the main thing.
5. S. (11:03) We, at least on the calendar, are done with a period of leaving Mitzrayim and soon we will be celebrating Tu’ba Av, the Hebrew Valentine's Day. Shall we take something from the ruin to the building?
R. Certainly all these things are connected to each other.
S. What should we take from the destruction to the building?
R. Everything. If you do not know the destruction, the ruin, then you do not know what to do to create the building.
S. What do you take?
R. Everything.
S. What does that mean?
R. All the discernments from the breaking.
S. What discernments are there, I feel pain, like they were saying about the state of our nation. What discernments do we have?
R. Let us say you see something broken, so you need to know according to what forces and vessels that are broken, with what discernments does it have a problem, how much it needs to connect, what process it needs to connect through. Otherwise you would not know the parts.
S. How do I know all these details, what shattered, what I need to correct?
R. How do you know from? In which you want to participate in that and request and then you are incorporated in that.
S. But it sounds opposite, that I don't know and I'm asking to be shown?
R. Yes, for sure.
S. We start from, in that which we do not know anything, so everything is in pain in order to start?
R.The correction begins from that in which I am ready to gradually incorporate with all of the broken vessels. There are problems here. How will I know what is the breaking, what is the suffering, what is the correction? I do not belong to those materials, qualities that they feel now, that is a very big problem. Only the upper light is capable of including them altogether and to blend us in such a way that we will be able to each feel the other as oneself.
6. S. (14:35) In the first part of the lesson you said we should scrutinize the statement that you made. You said in faith there are no limits or sinning, in reason there are limits and sinning. What came to me after I scrutinized is what he said Rabash said I dwell among my people. What is the relationship between I dwell among my people and faith?
R. Without faith, I cannot be in, I dwell among my people. I cannot dwell on my people to incorporate in everyone. How can I do that? Only by exiting, the individual will to receive and incorporating with everyone.
7. S. (16:36) Yesterday the social media was filled with the sentence Love your Friend is Yourself.
R. Social networks that you are talking about around Israel?
S. Yes, in Israel, talking about above, below, left, right, everyone.
R. Okay, well.
S.Everyone put it up, wrote a story about it, I don't know. The question is, when we try to explain this thing of Love your Friend as Yourself, it becomes very complicated and becomes hard to explain it. How can we explain this in a simple way that will be able to settle on someone's heart and a person will not be scared of it?
R. I think it is impossible, I think it's impossible. I do not think that this quality of Love your Friend as Yourself which is a general, initial inclusive law, that it is the first condition that we can absorb, but how could it be? Who is capable of that?
S. He is also saying here that Love your Friend as Yourself?
R. It does not mean that it is highly promoted, that we can understand it, that we can include ourselves in it and keep it, observe it. But that it is close to us means that we do not understand it, do not know it, and we are not close to it.
S. How? Because we are coming towards Valentine's Day soon. How can we still explain to people what love of others is, to give them some kind of feeling about it?
R. I don't think that we relate to that, we do not belong to love of others, to closeness to connection, we cannot hold each other 's hands, to embrace each other, we're very far from it, and there is a great concealment upon us. Nobody loves the other, and no one is ready, and no one understands what is expected of him, what they want from him.
S. On the other hand, man always searches for love, he has a tendency towards it, even if he does not understand it or know it?
R. The person wants love each day that they will love him, that he doesn't need to bow down to all of the others who are around him and he doesn't need to defend himself to all of these others around him, so that is what he's looking for.
S. Can we speak at the place in his heart in order to develop it, to open it, to take him to a new place?
R. Right, so by that you come to recognition that everyone are egoists, everyone stands against one another, no one wants anything from themselves, but they just demand a good attitude towards them from others.
S. How do you pull a person a step ahead? Ok, I understand. I'm an egoist, I feel it and I can agree with you. How can you take them from here one more step towards correction?
R. I explained to him that life needs to be a good life in love, in connection, mutual obligation. If a person starts absorbing that and accepting that, then in such a way I open this path for him to come to these qualities of connection, we have no choice. Either we come to a Big Bang where nothing will remain which also might not be so terrible or we come to connection between us.
S. What will be better in the life of connection? It sounds very obligating. How do you explain that he is going to have a better life in connection?
R. What is better in a life of connection as opposed to a life of separation? A life of connection we are all able to care for everyone and that each person will feel themselves that the Creator, the upper force, acts on them through everyone and brings them to a state called the Garden of Eden to heaven. As opposed to the opposite state where the person feels himself as if he is in a cage of wild animals, and that his whole life is fearing from one moment to the next, that they are going to leap onto him and eat him, these are the parts into pieces.
8. S. (23:47) The main part of the Torah speaks about Commandments between man and man, what is connected with Love your friend as Yourself? Until we reach the built Jerusalem, the wholeness of the vessel where everything was corrected, can we even relate to the work of the Creator? Because we learn that Israel, the light and the Creator are One, meaning until we do not connect the Shechina we will not reach this state, is that right?
R. Certainly, yes, that is right.
S. This is actually an informative question?
R. That the Creator chose to do.
9. S. (24:50) Lately, in the last few months, we learned a lot about prayer. All the questions that their friends are asking, couldn't they be as a prayer to the Creator and that is what we'll help or what do we do? What is the solution? Because in the last few months it’s only prayer, prayer, prayer.
R. Really, we have nothing else to do other than to pray, to request, to ask, to raise our deficiency so that the Creator will fill it. For Him it is a pleasure to fill us and for us, it is a pleasure to receive fulfillment from Him.
S. When we read Rabash and Baal HaSulam and also your words that you write, it seems like there is a prayer book. Can we take these words and make them as a prayer book?
R. No, I forbid making some from my words a prayer book or in general any kind of book of instructions or anything. I do not speak that clean and precisely. No. What I do with my words is to give you an ability to awaken and think, and to scrutinize, which is the main thing in these work-matters.