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Part 2 Studying with friends

Studying with friends

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Daily Morning Lesson: September 13, 2025 

Part 2: Building a Spiritual Society. 

Topic: Importance of the Fixed Ten

Reader: Excerpt number one please.

Reading: (00:17) RABASH, Article No. 6 (1984), "Love of Friends – 2" - Twice

If several individuals come together with the force that it is worthwhile to abandon self-love, but without the sufficient power and importance of bestowal to become independent, without outside help, if these individuals annul before one another and all have at least potential love of the Creator, though they cannot keep it in practice, then by each joining the society and annulling oneself before it, they become one body. 

For example, if there are ten people in that body, it has ten times more power than a single person does. However, there is a condition: When they gather, each of them should think that he has now come for the purpose of annulling self-love. It means that he will not consider how to satisfy his will to receive now, but will think as much as possible only of the love of others. This is the only way to acquire the desire and the need to acquire a new quality, called “the will to bestow.” 

And from love of friends one can reach love of the Creator, meaning wanting to give contentment to the Creator.  

Reader: From Rabash, “Love of friends,2.” The topic of our lesson now is the importance of the regular ten. We are working in Tens for many years now, and we also have a big society, a big world Kli, with many Tens in it. And over the years, since we started working in this division to Tens. Rav is doing more and more of a zoom-in to how all of the life, and hope, and work is found in the Ten. Recently, there were conversations where Rav gave more and more precisions, more resolution, more emphasis. Ultimately, from all of those, we can feel how much Rav really wants us to feel that inside the Ten is where everything lies, so we'll have no opening to escape some other circle, even in our big society of Bnei Baruch, where it's not my pen, where I have to break my ego and receive the revelation of the upper light, specifically in working with these people. And what we thought would advance all of us in this special lesson we have on Saturday is to just listen together to all of the very prominent conversations where Rav gave many emphases and precisions. We are certain that most of us have heard these conversations already, but you know there's a difference between listening to it alone and listening to it as a Kli together from a prayer that what Rav wants to happen with us will happen. So we'll hear one conversation, then we'll discuss it between us.

Everyone will try to hold on to insights that we'll share with each other from the conversations, and then we'll also do this with the second conversation. And so, all this time that we have now together will become a common prayer that the matters that Rav aims for will be deeply rooted in our hearts. So let's hear the first conversation.

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (06:26) In a month and a half, we'll have a convention on the subject of one prayer. In a convention, do we need to sit in our permanent regular Tens or mix together? 

M. Laitman: I think we need to be in our regular Tens throughout the year. 

Student: Throughout the whole year, including conventions, holidays, events.

M. Laitman: In general. 

Student: There are states throughout the year where, are there situations where we can mix together, where I sit with other friends and so on, maybe for a day or two, not for... By our method, the method of the wisdom of Kabbalah, by Baal HaSulam, from Baal HaSulam, is there room to incorporate with other people who have the same purpose? I study with the same people for 30 years. They're not in my Ten. But with my Ten, I work every day, as we do, but three times a year, maybe. Is it not beneficial to incorporate with other people, sit with them, talk? 

M. Laitman: I don't know. I don't know. 

Student: Is it an anti-spiritual activity, if I sit down with someone not of my Ten in congresses, for example, as we've done throughout the years? 

M. Laitman: I think that an anti-spiritual action is that we do a certain action that pushes us away from the goal. But other than that, no. 

Student: So, if I sit with other friends in the congress, in the convention, other friends from Bnei Baruch, friends who I've been studying with for years. 

M. Laitman: That's clear. There's nothing to add here. 

Student: Is that a spiritual action, though if I sit with them, with other friends? 

M. Laitman: No. 

Student: Why not? 

M. Laitman: It seems to me that no. 

Student: Why not? 

M. Laitman: Because it doesn't bring together the people in the Ten, the group that is together with other groups. It doesn't bring together a single group. So, I don't think that it is a spiritual action. 

Student: If I go sit with other friends in a convention, if I talk to them during the meal or something, can't I bring something new from that to my Ten after that? Nothing? No addition? 

M. Laitman: No, this is not a topic that needs to be in the agenda of the congress.

Student: I wanted to ask, though, is there any occasion where I can be with other friends and it's right, proper, kosher, spiritual, even for a brief time? Are we enclosed in the Ten and that's it? Forget about everyone else. Your life is only in the Ten.

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Student: Yes? 

M. Laitman: I don't see. Tell me why not.

Student: We're at a crossroads. I have these people I work with every day, and everyone else, they don't exist. So. why even hold a convention? What is the use of having a convention? 

M. Laitman: I think that precisely in a state like ours, like you say, that we don't meet with other groups, other people. So, specifically in that case, the convention becomes more desirable.

Student: (10:42) If I live in the United States and now there's a convention in San Francisco, I can go there and be with other friends who live in that area in the United States. We study together, we cooperate together, we, are inspired by each other and so on, or maybe there's a Ten that was established with people who are from various places, one in Canada, one in Germany, and so on, and now I connect with them virtually. What is better, to connect virtually with my Ten or physically with people who aren't of my Ten, but people who study close to me? 

M. Laitman: Virtually. 

Student: If everyone assembles virtually, and I can do so physically in terms of the society as a whole, do we advance? It's not a flaw where some are connected virtually, some physically. 

M. Laitman: No. 

Student: What does it add to get together physically? 

M. Laitman: The physical addition lets us feel how good it is that we are connected only virtually. 

Student: As the friendi said, if our Ten, next week we go on a weekend outing for three days, we can have our own convention. We can be together, study, deepen the connection between us. Why do we need to assemble here in a convention and around us many other Tens if all that matters to us is our connection and not what happens out there? 

M. Laitman: Yes?

Student: What does it add that I have other Tens around me in the hall? What do we contribute to them, and what do they contribute to us?

M. Laitman: What do you want to happen in the convention? 

Student: I'm wondering about the foundations. Maybe we don't need that format, that convention.

M. Laitman: Yes, that's contemplating the foundations, yes. 

Student: And you think we're done with the time of conventions? 

M. Laitman: I don't think so. I think we haven't started yet, because we still rely only on the connection that exists in the Ten.

Student: And what's the next step? Connection between the Tens? 

M. Laitman: I think so. In our state, we're not yet ready for that. We're not yet ready to connect with other Tens. 

Student: No. So, each one inside his own Ten. All right. So, what is a proper convention? You said that we haven't even begun. So, what is a convention as a convention should be as you see it? 

M. Laitman: The convention is a connection. It's a connection across everyone. And in that connection, each one prefers his connection to his Ten. And thus advance. 

Student: But if I now travel to Europe, I sit with other friends, I hold a workshop with them, but I think about my own Ten. Is there such a thing, or is it all fake? If I sit with other friends? 

M. Laitman: I don't know. No. 

Student: Okay. So there's nothing like that. I need to sit with my friends and speak with them. And when you say that, you mean every activity in the convention. 

M. Laitman: Each and every action. 

Student: Okay. So, you don't have activities where we can mingle, and some activities where we can… we're always together?

M. Laitman: Yes. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (14:47) So why do we need this grand organization if everything, spiritually speaking, starts and ends in a person's individual ten? Why does he need anything beyond that? 

M. Laitman: So what will you do? 

Student: Well, the Tens can, as we now are doing, sit together, read, discuss after the reading. Tens can have their own schedules and do what they deem right. What is the benefit of having these set times in the day where many Tens are performing the same action in parallel together? Like in the morning lesson, many Tens are sitting together, studying. There's a convention, many Tens sit at the same time, are going this process of connection, each one in his own Ten, but many Tens all together simultaneously. Why do we need these great events with the Tens?

M. Laitman: Common events, what, to study, some article? 

Student: Sure. For example, we have the morning lesson. It's a shared common event. Many Tens, let's say 300 Tens, studying together simultaneously. Is it necessary for them? Or does the Ten not require such a thing? The Ten can define its own schedule and hold whatever lessons the Ten wants, and that's it. Or is there value to having certain times where a great quantity of Tens, they're all doing the same thing together? 

M. Laitman: I think that we need to make such an action where each Ten influences other Tens, all together influencing everyone in BB, and everyone will feel that pressuring influence.

Student: So, when we have lessons, every day we have lessons, the Ten assembles, many Tens congregate in the lesson. Now, when the Ten studies in the lesson, does it influence other Tens, or does it affect only the Ten itself? 

M. Laitman: Basically, they all rise through that, they influence each other. 

Student: Then what happens at conventions? If there is a convention now, we have a convention in a month, three days of convention, and 12 hours of connection every day. Now, here, to the center, maybe 500, 600 Tens will arrive physically, and you'll have dozens more connected all around the world. I'm asking, is there any benefit to such an operation? If ultimately a person's connection starts and ends inside his Ten and not beyond. 

M. Laitman: If one comes with his Ten? 

Student: Yes. Is there value in coming to such an event or not? 

M. Laitman: I think no. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (18:09) So morning lesson, at least us, the Petah Tikva group, we all assemble together, many Tens in the same study hall. That's the morning lesson. Why do they all need to sit together in the same space? Some will sit here, others will sit in someone's backyard, and others elsewhere. They're all together studying, but each one in their own place. What is the benefit of sitting together, several Tens in the same physical space? 

M. Laitman: If they don't influence each other, then I don't see any kind of need for it.

Student: What is it - need that a Ten influences another Ten? 

M. Laitman: Each Ten thinks about how it is now connected with other Tens and its members, and this is how we advance. 

Student: During the lesson, do we think about our own Ten or about how our Ten can connect to other Tens? 

M. Laitman: We've had such questions. 

Student: Yes, and now in our current situation, what do you think about? I'm enclosed in my Ten, or do we as a Ten think about other Tens? 

M. Laitman: I don't know. I think that we must sit together, and think together, and study together, and that we won't think that I cannot study because others will study for me, and so on. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (20:21) Another question. Is there a difference, as far as you're concerned, between the Tens in Petah Tikva and the Tens in the World Kli? 

M. Laitman: There shouldn't be.

Student: So, there shouldn't be a difference. What you say relates to everyone equally, 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: Without exception. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (20:41) I would also like to ask, if we have a convention, it's three days, and there are lessons, there are meals, we have social events, and so on. We're always together, but we have breaks. We go up to the roof and so on, Is it okay, in the breaks, do we all have to be together as a Ten? Or can we talk to other friends from the world, the Israeli Kli? 

M. Laitman: That already depends on, not that, but why did you come to the Congress? What for? 

Student: Now, don't you miss connecting with other people? We're a Ten, and why shouldn't we be different, or study with a different group? Not instead, but in addition, maybe you'll get something new out of it, be reinvigorated in a way. 

M. Laitman: Not for me. 

Student: From where does this urge, this need, arise in a person to go, and speak, and incorporate with other friends who are not in his Ten? 

M. Laitman: Probably, he wants to absorb more discernments.

Student: Can he not receive those discernments in his Ten? 

M. Laitman: Maybe, yes, maybe not. 

Student: In the Ten, do you have everything, or is there a certain limit beyond which you need to look outside? 

M. Laitman: It depends on what kind of discernments. I can't say. 

Student: It seems to me very clear. A person should be in his permanent Ten all the time, studying in the convention, people all over the world during the convention connect virtually, and that's the maximal spiritual benefit, to connect with their Ten. Or, if they can come to the same place physically, they should do that. But if we're talking about spiritual benefit, they should connect to their permanent ten. And it's not wrong to connect here in Petah Tikva, come all of us here, but each one stays with his Ten. Is there any stage on one's spiritual path from which he needs to be in his permanent Ten, but up to that point he can connect with everyone else? Or does he have to be enclosed in his personal Ten from the beginning? A completely new student, it's his first year, second year, so he advances, but is there a certain point in time from which he needs to be in his permanent ten? 

M. Laitman: Where is it written? 

Student: About the permanent ten? 

M. Laitman: Permanent Ten, the permanent Tens, the placements between Tens, placements of people. 

Student: Everything we know about Tens we learned from you, and we read in Rabash's articles about how to connect in his societal articles, but nowhere is it written in a very orderly fashion, when you need to be in a permanent Ten or a random ten, it doesn't exist. So you guide us, you guide us to understand what's written. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (24:20) I want to ask this, what happened that things changed, and suddenly a person has to live and die in his Ten, nothing except for his Ten? For years we could mix together, change Tens, more freestyle, but now this is it, you have nothing else to do, everything is in your Ten. Did something change? 

M. Laitman: No, not that changed. Why now did you say that we can move from one Ten to another Ten, when was it so? 

Student: Ten years ago or so, before we had permanent Tens, it was a bit more loose. Because on occasion, every once in a while, we'd switch Tens. That was a decade ago, before that, there were no tens. There was just a big group, it was a big herd. Each one comes individually, there were no Tens. Then when the tens started, well, it was in many different forms, and now in the past decade, we're in permanent tens, which are unchanging. The question is, is that the direction where it becomes more and more enclosed in your own personal ten? 

M. Laitman: I think so. 

Question (Petah Tikva Center): (25:47) Okay, a friend asked, a new person who comes to Bnei Baruch, does he have to go through the same process to enter a permanent Ten immediately? 

M. Laitman: Yes.

Student: From the beginning, this is your Ten until the end of correction. 

M. Laitman: If everything's already built, then yes.

Reader: Thank you to the Rav. That talk took place on the 3rd of September. It's called permanent Ten, regular Ten in the convention as well.

You can find it in the archive. And what we want to do now is to start a workshop in the Tens. And each person speaks in a free way about what he heard from Rav and what he takes from Rav's words to the work in the Tens.