Lección Diaria15 May 2023(Mañana)

Parte 1 Lección sobre "El tiempo de la entrega de la Torá"

Lección sobre "El tiempo de la entrega de la Torá"

15 May 2023
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Morning Lesson May 15, 2023

Transcription is made from simultaneous translation, which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio

Part 1:

The Time of The Giving of The Torah - Selected Excerpts from the Sources

1. Rav’s Introduction: (00:29) Yes, we are approaching the day of the Giving of the Torah, the holiday of Shavuot ,Pentecost, and it's a very high root in the world and for the souls. It's a symbol of the upper light that comes from above, from the Creator to each and every person through the heart of each one. This is how we should try to use this time, this opportunity to be all of us together. This is what this holiday, this time demands and then we will also be able to use it in such a way that we will come closer to each source, to the Creator. As much as we become incorporated together between us against our ego so to the same extent we will also be able to come closer to the Creator. This is actually the whole matter of the 'Giving of the Torah' meaning to bring us a force which we can use and to annul the ego that is separating us so that each and everyone will feel himself that he belongs to everyone and everyone is in his heart. This holiday first of all speaks about keeping it in the Ten in each and every Ten and then it will spread to all of the Tens as one Ten. Later on it will also spread in all of the nations and to the whole world so that everyone will enter a connection with the Creator with the upper force. This actually is what we have to learn. We should try to discover it and become incorporated in it.

Reading excerpt 1 (03:27) The festival of Shavuot -the time of the giving of our Torah  (twice)

2. S. (05:38) I understood that the Torah clothes in the heart of men and then in the Creator. What's the difference?

R. The difference is that the Torah means the Creator sends the person and the Creator himself is the source of the Torah.

S. What is Torah for us?

R. The Torah for us is a certain number of pieces of advice, of forces, of scrutines that work on us and connect us and to the extent that we do connect we come closer to the Creator until we reach being as one man between us and also with the Creator in adhesion. This is actually the holiday, the Festival of the Giving of the Torah, the Giving of our Torah that if we connect then we attain this force of unity and in it we attain the source of the unity which is the Creator and in that we attain the purpose.

3. S. (07:52) It says here that Shavuot is Malchut in the worlds and the heart of men, that the Torah clothes or dresses in the heart of men?

R. Yes, this is called the giving of the Torah or the reception of the Torah it is all done in the person's will to receive which is already which he has already corrected to be in order to bestow just like the upper light, just like the Creator who relates to him his how the person relates to the Creator to everyone.

S. If it's before Shavuot or not Shavuot the Torah does not clothe in the heart of man?

R. Shavuot can be each and every day it all depends on the person. It's the inner state of the person which is called Shavuot but because we exist in the corporeal world, we celebrate it as a special day. That is all we follow its indications and symbols.

S. The question is not about astronomy but the state which is called Shavuot Vs. the state that is not Shavuot, so if it is not Shavuot theTorah does not clothe in the heart of Man?

R. No, if a person's comes closer to the corrections then he enters connections with the others as one man in one heart and when he reaches that then his heart starts to include all of the hearts, then this state is called Shavuot and his heart is ready to receive all of the general light that the Creator shines to the created beings which is called the Torah.

4. S. (10:20) It said that the Creator clothes or dresses in the heart of man. What is it that the Creator dresses in the heart of man?

R. The heart of man is man's desire. This is what it is called so the Creator clothes in the desire according to the correction of this desire towards love, towards bestowal, towards connection, towards in order to bestow. Then according to the equivalence of form, the upper Light, the Creator, the force of bestowal and love can clothe there.

5. S. (11:05) You said this holiday speaks first of the Ten and keeping it and realizing it is in the Ten, the realization as we know is also in the Ten as we read from the Torah so what is the time of the giving of the Torah in the Ten?

R. The time of the Giving of the Torah is a state where we feel that our hearts are drawn to connection into being as one heart, one desire in which we then attain our one source for everyone; the Creator.

S. Which action from us proceeds this time that our hearts are drawn into one?

R. That we decide that we have to be in a Ten with all the laws of the Ten that Rabash wrote for us and then according to that, in coming closer to each other we discover the qualities of connection, of incorporation between us, the Creator, that's it. Actually the holiday of Shavuot is the incorporation of everyone in everyone.

Reading Excerpt 2. (12:44) “The count from Passover to Shavuot..” Twice.

6. S. (15:11) What is, “I am the lord your God who took you out from the land of Egypt?”

R. This is what a person attains in the reception of the Torah. In general that there is an upper force, one, unique and unified, a central one in the whole of reality and it is what delivers the person from in order to receive and elevates him to in order to bestow and in that it opens up for the person an opportunity a possibility to see the whole of creation in a way which is above time and place and to see that everything depends only on a single force which is the Creator.

7. S. (16:22) At what point does a person begin to see what is described in the study of the ten Sefirot, Partzufim, world's Sefirot?

R. When his desire which he corrects reaches such discernments.

S. We read a certain order of actions of attainment, the exodus from Egypt, the receiving of the Torah. At what point in this process does a person attain spiritual attainment, according to the world as it is written in the study of the Ten Sefirot (TES) that he is able to recognize the Partzuf, what is ZA and Malchut and everything that is written there?
R. When he's in spiritual attainment then bit by bit it opens up for him this process

S. I just wanted to know the first moment that he reaches spiritual attainment then he starts or like here it speaks of a certain process that 'I Lord the God took you out of Egypt' and then there's the next stage in the next state and then the reception of the Torah, when does it happen at what point?

R. Whatever happens.I don't know what you mean, when he does then he feels it.

S. Not feeling, I'm talking about taking TES as an instruction manual?

R. Well that's not immediately he can learn the way we are studying it.

S. I'm saying that he knows how in this life, like I see the table and the chair, I want to know what is ZA and Malchut ? What is the rising of the Masach and the restriction and all these things?

R. All these concepts should be clear to you, where they are inside of you. You have to attain them inside of you.

S. This is what I'm trying to scrutinize. At what point does it happen, in a person's spiritual development? At what point does it happen? If we read the excerpt that we read now, there is a process stage one, two and three. I wanted to know at which stage out of these stages can a person be inside of TES as an instruction manual, that he can see it already?

R. When you begin to see the desires to receive and the desires to bestow and what kind of connections they have inside of him and how he can manage them, by turning to the Creator and the Creator helps him and so on. To this extent he enters the correct reading of TES and otherwise he is just studying. Again it's not just studying, we are getting closer, it does work on a person but nevertheless it's still just reading.

8. S. (19:42) It says that the time of counting from Passover to Shavuot is the preparation of purifying the vessels which is purification in the heart and mind. What is the preparation in mind? We understand the heart, what is in the mind?

R. Well, there is a heart and a mind a person corrects these two discernments such that they can work in the direction of bestowal. That's it.

9. S. (20:25) Before Passover, what's the preparation of purifying the vessels in faith and after Passover it's the preparation in purification for the receiving of the Torah, what is the difference between the two?

R. Well, before Passover it is more in potential and then it is actually. The purification of the vessels means that we open up the relations between us in the Ten and we try to be more tight together emotionally and in this way to advance as one man with one heart.

S. Same vessels or different?

R. That's the state that we should have in the reception of the Torah.

S. Are they the same vessels or different vessels?

R. Well, let's say it's the same vessel. Let's say it's the same vessel, the vessels keep changing.

10. S. (21:44) What is the force that turns the giving of the Torah to the receiving of the Torah?

R. The upper force, the force of the light, the force of the Creator that shines upon a person and corrects him.

S. What is the reason that the soul of man yearns to care for others?

R. When a person hears that in his yearning to support the others he connects everyone together then he builds a vessel for the reception of the Torah.

11. S. (22:39) How do you keep the giving of the Torah in the Ten?

R. The giving of the Torah, we don't give the Torah we receive theTorah. We celebrate the holiday when the Creator gave us an opportunity to receive the Torah, and that the festival is called the holiday of the Giving of the Torah,that's on His side, on the Creator’s side. We keep it by having to be as one man with one heart. This is the condition for the reception of the Torah as much as we are capable of connecting more, we by that go over all of the five parts of the Torah and then the upper light called the Torah, the Torah of light it enters us, it corrects us, it connects us and we in that already begin to be the masters of the Torah.

12. S. (23:55) What does it mean that the holiday of Shavuot exceeded Malchut in the world and the heart in man.

R. That it is the foundation of the reception of the Torah with respect to the person. Malchut.

13. S. (24:17) How the counting of the Omer helps us in receiving the Torah in the vessels?

R. In counting of the Omer, we check the conditions in which we can reach a connection between Keter and Malchut through all of the discernments, the qualities that are between them. We check all of our desires and intentions whether all of them are directed to in order to bestow for the revelation of the Creator, then we reach Shavuot.

14. S. (25:08) The time of counting from Passover to Shavuot is the purification of the vessel which is purification in the heart and mind and when the vessels are perfect you are rewarded with the giving of the Torah. What does it mean when the vessels are perfect?

R. That they are completed and corrected in order to bestow and according to the form we can receive the upper light with the intention to bestow this is called the clothing of the Torah in the person.

15. S. (25:41) It says when the Torah dresses in the soul of man,what is the soul of man?

R. His internal will to receive.

Reading excerpt 3: ( 26:03) “The days of the counterpoint to unity..” Twice.

16. S. (28:16) It's clear from the excerpts on Shavuot and the giving of the Torah comes to us in qualities that are above reason?

R. Yes. That we should be ready for it and we need to want it to happen and the upper light comes and it corrects us and fills us with its first portion, which is called the reception of the Torah.

S. We connect with the friends we rise above the connection between us, above ourselves and what do we actually expect from this connection from how should we connect ourselves to be prepared to be ready and worthy to receive the Torah?

R. We should connect between us so much that we discover that we are all tied together and that we are all ready to be as one man with one heart. As much as we are capable of depicting it then the upper light, the Creator will clothe in us, will be revealed in us, in our common heart. This is called as one man with one heart.

S. This connection as one man in one heart is seemingly inside of the vessel as. I understand it from you but from the excerpt, what is the light in the level of the vessel?

R. The light is what influences us, maybe we don't feel it in the meantime it influences us and it shakes us so that we will get closer to each other so that we will feel each other more. In this way we will build ourselves as one man with one heart, only in this way can we receive the upper light which is called the Torah and the Creator who is clothed in the Torah.

17. S. (31:10) Is the state of the Torah clothing in the souls possible only after the days of the count following Pesach or anytime?

R. No, it can't be at any time because the vessels have to be ready for the feeling of these higher actions. This is why it happens according to the process that we go through.

S. Can those vessels be prepared at another time other than following Passover as long as the vessel is prepared then we receive the Torah?

R. Yes, it's not according to our calendar, our earthly calendar but according to the process in which the vessels go through corrections.

18. S. (32:26) What is the relationship between the state of Lishma and the receiving of Torah?

R. We need to be to some extent in Lishma so that it needs a vessel you will begin to receive the Torah. There are two parts in the Torah though mainly it is the part where the light in it reforms one. This is still when a person can be in his ego, his will to receive. However, he wants to come closer and to enter the conditions of bestowal meaning to be above his ego. This is the first stage in a person. Later on it is already according to how much he enters-goes in.

19. S. (33:38) We've gone through the count and the giving of the Torah many times but now there is an inner state where there is a world Kli we've grown to a new state can we have invest further so that the Torah will be revealed to us?

R. Well what we can do is as usual connection between us into a state where the upper light will clothe in us will fill us, will be revealed in us and we are going towards it in order to make Him happy, in order to give Him a place to be revealed.

20. S. (34:44) The entrance into spirituality and what we call attainment and also the entrance to Lishma, all of it is the same concept?

R. Well these are different degrees but it is or in the same direction. The egotistic will to receive becomes refined, it becomes in order to bestow and according to that a person starts to be I suitable, congruent with the upper light and it can clothe in Him.

21. S. (35:38) Why do we need the 40 days of purification in the desert and then the mountain in order to receive the Torah? What is the desert in the mountains for us?

R. Well for this we have to read all sorts of articles from Rabash the way that he explains what all of these matters are written in the Torah and how they are depicted to us in our spiritual advancement, our inner development. The Torah tells it in a form of a corporeal development, a walk in the desert. They go up and down, they speak, they fight but actually this is what happens inside each and every person.

22. S. (36:45) What is the state where Israel stands before the mountain, opposite the mountain?

R. We will read about it in a moment, how these thoughts and deliberations, these difficult things that awaken in a person. Such sensations, feelings that are not simple, fear, feeling of difficulty and so on. Well let's continue.

Reading excerpt 4. (37:30) “At the time of the giving of the Torah..” Twice.

23. S. (39:14) He is saying here that everything always depends on the connection and unity. That's what we hear from the Rav each and every day. We came here as a ten, we are sitting here together. How do we check that we are truly connected and not just a few bodies?

R. Well each and everyone should be concerned about that, that each and every moment how he is connected with his friends and they all feel this one goal and the connection between them in which they are coming closer to this goal and the Creator that should help them reach that state. All of that, the group should constantly be checking and in mutual support, each and every friend, with all of the friends and this is how we then advance.

S. How after hearing this direction do we help each other hold on to it?

R. Well, we can do that in a corporeal manner, meaning in whatever we see in our five bodily senses but also a spiritual form when we raise MAN, a prayer to the Creator with a request to help all of us, to help all of the friends: one who prays for his friend is rewarded first.

S. Is there something we are supposed to have on the path or we come to an assembly or a lesson?

R. No, it is unrelated to a physical gathering; it has to do with a desire in the heart. As much as our hearts yearn to be together in one heart and only in such a way we are rewarded with contact with the Creator.

S. I am in charge only of my heart. I can't tell what is happening in their hearts. Now I'm coming to the meeting with the friends. Do I constantly need to be in it to check myself, where is my heart or simply to be incorporated with them regardless of what is happening?

R. Yes, the most important is to be incorporated with them.

24. S. (42:00) We read in the excerpt that Kabbalists tell us about something that happened in the past, a certain group. On top of the fact that the Kabbalists wrote books to us that we can read, what is the result, the influence that we can detect and feel from what they went through, how can we feel it and use it as well in addition to simply reading about it is there any other influence that we can reach in the ten, a force of what they have attained?

R. Well, first of all there is the corporeal issue, when we read something it influences us and it arranges a person's mind and heart when he is not yet in spirituality of how he should relate to this certain matter. And we see that always in each and every generation there were people that received it more internally and those that received it more externally. Now what should we do to continue this work even though the conditions for each and every generation, they change and especially so in our generation, which is called the last generation, the generation of the Messiah and this is why it is worthwhile for us to invest forces, efforts in order to connect and discover the Creator in the connection between us. It's not that we are so special but rather the time - our generation is what is special.

S. Ee are reading now and the feeling in the heart we want to bring it closer. I don't know how to accept it, how to take it correctly, how do I attain what they want to give me, they want to work on us, how do I receive from them, how can we receive what they want to give us?

R. You simply want to feel it, you want to be in it in your mind and in your heart.

S. But it's not in my heart it is somewhere above my perception?

R. Then let it clothe, let it clothe in you. This is what you want. The matter of attainment is that something that was not attained clothes in you and then you attain it but it is after it clothed in you. This is the matter of the vessels that they discover what exists inside of them.

S. And when we yearn it feels as if we are required to do a certain correction to receive it?

R. Possibly.

S. It’s hard to scrutinize because what is the correction that is required if you feel like you want to receive - good, now you have to change something. It is not clear what?

R. They tell you that in order to reach the feeling, the spiritual feeling, you have to rise above your ego and connect with others. It's not that you are interested in what they have inside of them, how they think, how they accept things but rather you want to tie yourself with their thoughts and desires and to become incorporated in them, to become incorporated in them truly, so that you won't feel what pertains to you but rather what they have inside of them and take part in what they have.

S. There are no vessels to do it but this is what is expected and it becomes clearer and clearer as we advance on the path but you need some help to format the relationship in the ten so that we can adapt ourselves to the reception of the Torah?

R. This is through the prayer.

25. S. (46:49) How to be integrated in the friends in the lesson?

R. Try to constantly be in that, thinking towards that in your desires and your prayer.

26. S. (47:10) It says the days of the counting point to unity as mentioned in the holy books and that's why the days of the counting have to correct this measure of unity, what is the counting signifying unity?

R. Sefira, counting is called from the word sapphire, so it shines that they will reach the will to receive that is already directed towards in order to bestow, this is why they are already in bestowal to a certain extent until they reach the holiday of Shavuot when all of our efforts take on, they get a special illumination and it becomes the light of Torah.

27. S. (48:16) It says that they journeyed from Rephidim. Rephidim has letters from Prudim [separated]. This implies a journey from idleness and separation connected together in love. What is idleness in the work?

R. That they don't want to connect.

S. My friends work around the clock, where do we need to check our idleness?

R. In the connection between you.

28. S. (49:01) Why is there a difference between the Giver of the Torah and the receiving of the Torah why is it not together?

R. How can it be together, the Giver of the Torah is the Creator and the Torah itself is the light that reforms a person.

S. Why the attainment of the Torah and if the Creator is not not one in the same it's like another stage that there's attainment of the Torah and there's attainment of the giving of the Torah?

R. Because it's not the same thing: one is the source and the other is His operation.

S. What do we need to add to the revelation of the Torah in our hearts so the source of the Torah and the Creator will be felt closer? It was written that he will not be a foreign God to you?

R. We need to connect between us to the extent that I bring the friends closer to me, to the extent that I enter inside of the friends and to that extent I establish the single vessel, with one heart and then the Creator can connect in a more clear way, more quickly.

S. It's written beware of reaching with your hand to Him. What is forbidden and what is allowed?

R. It's not for us yet. We need to learn how to get closer to the Creator and not to learn who the Creator is and what are these things, we just have to think about coming closer and how to reach the first contact with the Creator.

S. Only through the connection of the friends.

29. S. (51:13) I want to ask about this discernment of One, what is this thing where you suddenly have one vessel and one heart?

R. It stems from the necessity that we have to cancel the ego that is separating between us and then we connect in all kinds of discernments into one, to the concept of one which is the Creator.  This means annulling and canceling the distances of the disturbances between us and this is called to annul and cancel the place where the Creator cannot be revealed because these are truly forces that are opposite Him and we also discover them in order for it to be easier for us to understand where is it that we have to work.

S. But if everything is annulled and we become one, is there a difference between us?

R. There is no difference and we are all one.

S. Do we begin to feel this same?

R. We begin to feel the Creator to the extent that we annul ourselves and connect between each other, we are able to feel the Creator the single force.

S. Where is the uniqueness of each one, if everything is annulled and we feel everything the same way?

R. It’s in his vessel where each one annuls himself and he connects to everyone inside of himself and by this he becomes a special, united vessel for the revelation of the Creator with each and every one. It is written about it, “And the name of the Lord will be upon you.”

S. This one vessel that was created is an action that a person does with his attitude to the ten and to the friends outside of him or is this work that this entire time becomes one vessel?

R. Both this and that.

S. And still each one will keep his own uniqueness or the uniqueness resets?

R. The uniqueness remains but it doesn't determine itself, I don't quite have the words for it, we will advance and then the words will come.

S. I'm trying to get a grasp, will it be clear to us that we are working from this one thing?

R. Yes, in a connection which is outside of each one but rather it is for all of us together.

S. And only in this kind of vessel the Creator will clothe? If there's no kelim that is one, He cannot clothe in it?

R. No, there's no congruence there.

30. S. (54:55) From the end of Passover to Shavuot we call this process the purification of the vessels and also the counting of the Omer, the process where we incorporate into one another and we connect more and more until 49 and then we receive the light. Can you tell us about it a little bit, open it up, talk about it?

R. After we rise above our will to receive, we disconnect from it, we also need to acquire vessels at bestowal and this is done through the purification of the vessels from Pesach to Shavuot, 49 days, well seven times seven in the Sefirot and in that we correct our vessels more and more each and every day, until in these vessels when we have organized all of them to be in order to bestow, until these vessels are ready for the reception of the general light called the Torah. This is how we reach Shavuot, we will reach this in our holiday, so let's continue.

Reading excerpt number 5 (56:47) “We count 49 days..”

31. R. (58:25) This means, what does he want to tell us, that there are two stages here that we need to go through: the correction of the beast in us, and then the beginning of the correction of the Adam, the human in us, that is it.

Reading again. (58:42)

32. R. (01:00:17) We don't quite celebrate what's in the middle of this holiday which is not quite a holiday but the Omer but rather we reach the holiday of Shavuot.

33. S. (01:00:40) I heard that there is the correction of the beast and the correction of the man. What is the correction of the beast?

R. The correction of the beast that it's enough for it to have grain the food of the beast that's on the way to the Adam the human, it’s what the beast longs for and eats.

S. What's the allegory here?

R. The lesson here is this is on the way to the development of the human, Adam, we have to go through these stages.

S. What are the stages? What does it mean to correct the beast in me?

R. Correct the beast in me? Well there are all kinds of things in the Torah it writes about different kinds of animals, beasts. There are those that you cannot eat without ….. there are all kinds of stories like that, when they're already on the way from the degree of the beast to the degree of Adam, the kosher beasts the non-kosher beast, these are all degrees inside of the person.

S. A person sees that which with each passing day he's more of a beast. What is the correction there?

R. Well he needs to correct whatever he sees. The fact that he's being allowed to see it is a good sign, the person can only correct what he discovers inside of himself.

34. S. (01:02:23) It says here that the counting of the Omer, these corrections, are the development in the measures of the feeling of the greatness of the Creator.

R. Yes, of course otherwise with respect to what would he measure - his self, his scent, how bad he is or how much he’s better?

S. I understand this is the correction of the beast, rise….

R. The rise on the degree of Adam, of the human, until we are ready and we are capable of being rewarded with the reception of the Torah.

S. To be rewarded with the receiving of the Torah it's only when I attain the complete degree of the degrees of the Creator which is 49 measures of the greatness of the Creator?

R. Yes.

35. S. (01:03:27) I also did not understand man and beast, that second paragraph, what does it mean that when a person is rewarded with faith in the Creator he is regarded as a beast?

R. It's that he feels that the Creator exists in his world and he is ready to be beneath Him to keep His commandments, that is considered beast, a pure beast.

S. A pure beast when he follows the Creator?

R. Yes.

S. When does he become a man?

R. Adam, he resembles the Creator. We will learn more about it.

36. S. (01:04:22) So the degree of beast it's already a connection with the Creator, yes? The feeling of the Creator in a man's heart.

R. Well let's say so, I'm afraid of answering you interpret it according to whatever he wants.

S. This line is very misleading when a person is rewarded with faith in the Creator then he has called a beast.

R. Yes.

S. I used to think that beast is a degree that has no connection with the Creator. I am a beast now I see.

R. No, you are not yet a spiritual beast.

S. Oh this is two types of beasts, a corporeal beast and a spiritual beast?

R. No, corporeally that is something else, but the degree which is called a beast in spirituality this is already a degree that can be connected with the Creator and keeps his desires to his benefit but it still doesn't reach total unification with the Creator then he is called a beast.

S. You mentioned the word ‘to his benefit’ is this receiving in order to bestow?

R. Let's not get into that. It will confuse everyone.

37. S. (01:06:06) What does it mean that he assumes in his heart?

R. This is what he thinks, he assumes in his heart this is what he thinks this is how it is happening

38. S. (01:06:23) According to what a person assumes in his heart the light of the Creator dwells in him, what is that?

R. So that a person can assume in his heart whatever he feels like and to that extent the light of the Creator will be upon him. Is that the question?

S. What is the meaning of it?

R. As much as a person in his states he is devoted to the light of the Creator he begins to understand what this light of the Creator brings him, he feels what the light of the Creator depicts in him.

S. He speaks of a process here.

R. Of course.

S. A person constantly has to assume the greatness of the Creator that shines on him, that changes him, that’s what turns him from a beast to a human to Adam?

R. Yes.

S. So what does it mean to assume the greatness of the Creator? What is the action?

R. That he constantly collects and collects impressions from different partial revelations of the Creator and he by this depicts the force of the Creator in His Uniqueness that He dwells in the whole world.

S. In the world or the ten?

R. It's the same thing.

Reading excerpt number 6 (01:08:23) “As it is written that Israel camped..” twice

39. S. (01:10:36) What's the difference between the state of the exodus from Egypt, where we disconnect from the ego, and the state of receiving the Torah where we are as one man and one heart?

R. The exodus from Egypt is yes, when we disconnect from the ego but we are not yet connected between us, that is each one is seemingly disconnected from the others and he lives inside of himself.

S. But the disconnection from the ego doesn't automatically mean anything.

R. It doesn't automatically mean anything.

S. There's an additional path of connecting the hearts until we become one man in one heart?

R. Yes.

40. S. (01:11:31) Saying that they are qualified to receive the Torah and they became as one man and one heart, until we become one, we have no Torah?

R. We have no possibility to receive this light in a vessel which is not entirely connected on a certain degree to certain connection.

S. Until we become one, what influences us? There's no light that influences us?

R. There is light that influences us in which we feel that we are advancing but we are advancing out of suffering, advancing out of separation between us.

S. What is this addition of receiving the Torah? What is this Torah that we suddenly receive?

R. That we receive a single vessel and we can understand and feel each other, we can unite our heart and mind together, and then we can rise to a different degree of knowing the Creator and knowing creation, that it all comes as one, that it is all interconnected, and it has an integral form.

S. From what I'm getting from you, before we get to this one entity we don't have a Creator in our reality we still don't grasp Him.

R. Yes, that is correct we don't perceive Him yet as there is none else besides Him as one man with one heart.

S. What do we have until then? With what are we working?

R. With whatever is revealed to us in a partial and changing manner.

41. S. (01:14:14) I understood that we are not doing the corrections of a beast.

R. The correction of the beast, why not?

S. Are we in it, already in this stage?

R. No, but in general we are in certain corrections.

S. Which corrections are we in?

R. The corrections of a beast is when it depicts itself as on the degree of the ego but doesn't want to harm the others anymore, and there is a lot of stages of this, until it reaches a holy beast a sacred beast that you can even sacrifice it on the altar, meaning kill the beast within man and by this man can ascend to a degree where he resembles the Creator. that's it.

42. S. (01:15:43) He writes that it became as one man and one heart and they were qualified to receive the Torah and then there’s the matter of equivalence of form in addition to that, so receiving of the Torah is not already included in equivalence of form?

R. Look, there are a lot of degrees in this that we are not studying about right now, we're not learning them yet but of course there is a connection.

43. S. (01:16:22) If they became as one man with one heart before receiving the Torah?

R. That's the preparation for receiving the Torah.

S. Only when they receive the Torah they can become one man with one heart, that they remove themselves of thinking of themselves as one man in one heart, that's the action of the Torah on them.

R. Right, but then they are ready to receive the Torah. How will the Torah go in them? How can the upper light enter a vessel where shattering and separation is revealed between its parts?

S. How can the vessel be as one if it did not receive the Torah? What made them into one?

R. On their degree, on their degree, that's the way I can answer this, that's it.

S. Meaning this is all from the side of preparation?

R. Yes, longing for it. There's a lot of states here that we're going like next to them.