Morning Lesson June 1, 2022 Transcription
Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio
Baal HaSulam. Peace in the World (Rewarded—I Will Hasten It, Not Rewarded—In Its Time)
1. Rav’s Introduction: The Creator's control over all the created beings is a complete and total control. Therefore we have only two ways to come closer to the goal that he determined in advance and we will reach it for sure because that does not depend on us. What depends on us is in what form we will reach it in which way, in which one of the paths, the trails we will reach the purpose of creation, our purpose. Therefore, let's see what Baal HaSulam writes about it. One way is I will hasten it, and the other is in its time, but we reach the same goal meeting the same final state in which we are corrected in adhesion with each other and in adhesion with the Creator completely.
Peace in the World (01:37) “We must know the above mentioned law of....”
2. S. (09:03) What is the meaning of accepting a reward ? That they will receive a reward.
R. What it means is to receive something in return for the work, in return for the effort, for the labor. That I'm willing to do it, to put in effort and what am I willing to get? Maybe I will put in labor and I do not want anything. That too is also called a reward that I do not want anything. I have a will to receive. I always want something but if I will not want anything it means that I have a correction so that I will not demand anything. That too is a reward or that my reward will be that I will get a feeling and understand the perspective in all directions. I will know why,what for and how. Whatever I want. The reward could be in that I am filling up my desires that awaken within me. It could be that my reward will be that my desires will change from what I had or have into new ones and I will receive in those a fulfillment, and others and others. Reward means what I want. It could be that I will not want anything at all but how could it be that I will not want anything at all? I seemingly do not exist. How will I work? Nevertheless a person works out of a desire. Meaning that the fact that I might work not out of my desire or the desires of the others or that my desire will change so much so, that it will be far away and the opposite of what it was before, meaning here we need to know precisely what it is that I want to happen.
3. S. (11:42) It's not so typical for us to read such a text where the authorities are wide openWhy is he giving us such freedom?
R. Everywhere you have the opportunity to choose what it is that you want. We're not talking about how the Creator created us and imprinted in us all kinds of desires and thoughts and the way that he is managing us behind the scenes so that we don't even know what will happen in the next moment. What will we think and want in the next moment that we do not know and we cannot discuss this in what is above you, do not inquire because you do not have a basis for it but then what we are capable of we do talk about it. I do not see anything in that which is contradiction to that above what we talked about before we are only adding details knowledge of our own.
4. S. (13:11) What is the path of land?
R. The way of the land is that we try to change our desire through the forces that we get from above so that our desires will be like the desires of the upper one. Then by that I enter the upper ones influence, the upper one's control and my development is very rapid and correct. What does he say here? Let's see, he says, that there is the government of Heaven and the government of the earth. The government of the earth is the people who have taken the above-mentioned laws of development and their own governments and they have the power to be completely freed from the chains of time and they end up hastening the end, meaning the end of their ripeness and maturity which is the end of their development. Meaning that the government of heaven and the government of the Earth are two forces that operate on us as much as we put ourselves under the Creator's control and we agree with his goal and with his forces.
This is how we enter this and we hastened our development. As much as we do not do it we're working like the whole of humanity which is changing but its changes are changes that are not so weak like ours and they do not know which way and how and what precisely they are doing. They do not understand with respect to whom they need to aim themselves, what will happen, who is managing them and in what way and where do they need to come closer to.These are two ways, two approaches. Either I learn what the Creator wants and I try to bring myself closer to his will. As it says, make his will as your will or I do not learn it, I do not understand it, it does not attract me and this is how I develop in an incidental manner. Let's say whatever goes over me pushes me for one side and whatever pulls me that is from the other side and in that way in such a transitory incidental manner I develop not according to the flow to all kinds of incidents like in the ocean.
5. S. (17:04) According to the text, what does he say cascading of time?
R. He says the time is a certain number of forces that control us and when they come and replace each other in order to change us or we can us then we are out of that we have a feeling of time that something is changing because the forces that are operating bring us, awakening in us. That response gives us each time a feeling that something is changing and we say that time changes.
6. S. (18:14) The privilege that we are given, let's say in Bnei Baruch and the ten, the ability to change our bad virtues into good virtues. What kind of maturity should we reach in the ten in order to accept the privilege of changing our bad qualities to good qualities? He relates to the text to where Israel will take the law of development into their hands.
R. Yes. Listen. If I know that the purpose of creation, as the Kabbalists tell me because I read it. I do not attain it. I do not understand it. I do not feel it, but I do hear it, I read it. So if I know that the correction of creation, or even the end of the correction of creation is in that all the created beings, by their own will, will connect so much so that they will be as one desire. Let's say that it is like ants. That there's some force, we see that in them, that there is some force from above that operates on all of them. Each and every ant turns in some different direction, that does something different, but over all of them, there is a single force that manages all of them. They carry it out without asking, without thinking and without overcoming it. It is simply that this force operates over them automatically.
If we understand that this is how the upper force works on us, and now we are still where in the state where we are seemingly opposite to it, we do not hear, we do not see, we do not feel, we do not understand Him, but nevertheless we do carry out what he says, as it says that the cast out will not be cast out from Him and everyone returns back to his roots and there's None Else Besides Him and the Creator nevertheless controls each and every one, however under concealment. The concealment, what is it needed for? In order for us to keep what He wants without knowing that we're keeping it. It turns out that we are living in our own negative feelings; and what is it that we want? That through our development we will reach, “Make your will as His will.” Meaning that we will discover the Creator’s Will and we will be exactly according to His will, out of our own will. Not because he is compelling us like ants, and not because he is lying to us like now.
Everyone is performing the Creator’s Will, everyone but, to what extent is this desire contradictory to our inner desire. As much as we have a gap, a difference between our desires, mine and His, as we call it. So there is a possibility here to reach a state where you will make your will as his will. This is our correction. This is called to be under the government of heaven and not under the government of earth, as he explains to us here, that under the government of the authority of the heaven, that is the Upper authority, the Creator’s authority, that I discover that I'm under His influence and I want His influence, in advance, I subjugate myself, or I still do not do it to a certain extent, then I'm under the authority of earth, meaning that everything that the Creator created in the opposite form to Himself, this is how I am operated until, due to all kinds of reasons, and these reasons, that’s the ladder of degrees. Why do I need to get closer to the Creator and become similar to Him?
7. S. (23:38) Perhaps today's Bnei Baruch are advancing and hastening, or in its time?
R. We usually advance in hastening but the pace of advancement, the progress, this is what we want to increase.
S. Can we say that, in its time and hastening are the states that we go through each and every day?
R. Each one of us and all of us together, we are still going through changes of states.
8. S. (24:18) What determines that I am on that path? Is it that I want to change my desire according to the Creator or that I am falling in not understanding, and the Creator is helping me by the second part?
R. We are advancing towards the end of correction in two ways. We can always be in this one or in that one, or even in some combination of them, which is called “the way of the land.” We should try to come closer to the Creator by the path of the Torah, so that the ray of light that shines to us is what will pull us to the purpose of creation, which is the short and important path, the pleasant way, that quickly connects between us and it pulls us to the purpose of creation in a rapid way. which is in the eyes of man and goodin the eyes of the Creator.
This is how we should try. How do we do it? By increasing our connection in the group. Only by that. We have nothing else to do because to the extent that we restrict ourselves more more or converge more more between us, in that way we review our willingness to be under the control under that single force and as much as we are one, so we are connected to the Creator who is one, and then as it is called, “one receives one” and we reach very quickly to connection and adhesion.
9. S. (26:33) Baal HaSulam writes to us to take the development under our own authority and to hasten the end. What does it mean from the point of view of the individual, because we're under the group, the individual which is under the group, the group guides us. I do not see that I am setting the goals and governing my development. I'm annulling toward the group that is doing it.
R. You can determine your goal as much as you connect to the group toward your common goal, checking that your common goal is exactly the goal, is also servitude.
10. S. (27:27) Is the meaning ’I shall hasten it” mean that I prefer the reason of the group above my own reason?
R. Yes precisely.
S. Why is it said like this, that they are always correct and I'm always wrong?
R. Because it is against your ego that’s how it turns out.
11. S. (27:55) What determines and what is the difference?
R. The Creator’s control is the force of bestowal. All the other controls are the force of reception.
12. S. (28:26) About the time, there's a feeling often, that the will to receive is running away either to the future or to the past,as long as it doesn't have to deal with the here and now. Why does it happen? What advice can you give us so that we will focus on the here and now?
R. Only each one shall help his friend. It’s only by the friends being connected, constantly influencing each other, through correspondence, phone, reading, praying, singing, whatever it is. The most important is the mutual influence in the group.
S. Why does it happen? Why does the will to receive want to run away to the future or the past?
R. It doesn’t want to feel a foreign control, even the Creator. We do not want to feel any kind of control over us because this is against our will to receive, our ego. There is no more than that. It is contradictory to our nature in an absolute matter. There is nothing more hated, more antagonistic, more opposite to us, than the Creator.
S. The Creator is here and now in all the desires that appear in me now?
R. Otherwise they will not appear. In all of our desires the Creator exists, and so all of us our desires are operated in the opposite form from Him, which is called I have created the evil inclination. How did the Creator create the evil inclination? In the opposite form of Himself. Look what a force it is, what a decision it is, that He is holding something that is completely the opposite of Him, completely contradicted to Him, it’s His enemy, His hater, and deliberately He creates it and holds it, sustains it in order to give us the reality in which we will be free. Where we ourselves will choose. That is not now, yet that is after we will reach the degree of Bina, but we will choose ourselves. What does it mean to be free, free choice?
S. How do I check myself if I'm living in the current moment or if I'm thinking about the future?
R. With respect to the friends with respect to the society only.
13. S. (31:24) Who advances in I shall hasten it in due time,the individual or the ten, all of Bnei Baruch?
R. Each and every person as much as he wants to use his environment in order to advance.S. Meaning it is possible in a certain ten there is one friend who advances in I shall hasten it and the rest of the friends are advancing in due time?
R. Even that could happen, yes.
S. How can we ensure that all the friends in the ten will be in I shall hasten it, what can we do to ten so that we will all be in I can hasten it?
R. Pray for the friends you are suddenly forgetting within a minute what we talked about.
14. S. (32:16) According to the text, can you say that here the intention is that the path of 'I shall hasten it’ is the path of the land and the path of in its time is the path of heaven?
R. Hastening in its time it is not exactly that there are a few other things but let's say in general we have advanced in its time, in the way of time, sometimes when we connect to the extent that we connect then we are hastening our development. This is called 'hastening'. According to the degree of our connection we advance in hastening.
15. S. (33:15) According to the text the Creator places a King over us whose laws are harsher than the laws of Haman, can you explain that?
R. The Creator gives us all kinds of problems and troubles and we ask why, what for and how do I get rid of them? This is called the path of suffering. This is how generally the whole of humanity's advancing and us as well and to the extent that we start making calculations between us and the Creator, how to increase the pace of our development, how to amplify the pace of our development, then we search by which forces we can advance quicker, can develop faster. Seemingly for desire we draw that light that develops us, that pulls us to the purpose of creation then the changes in us or in advancement are considered to be on the path of hastening.
16. S. (34:47) There is something that I cannot detect: what is coming from the Sitra Achra and what is coming from the Creator. There is an influence, it is clear. there's feelings, emotions where is the roots, from the evil or is it from the Creator. What is create coming directly from the Creator and what is coming indirectly
R. You cannot yet now detect it and decide. Usually anything that pushes you away from the ten or brings you closer to the ten, which means that you are rejected from the Creator or want to become closer to the Creator in a very clear way, this is considered the correct way. That you are directly connected through the group to the Creator and through your own forces by strengthening yourself in the group,you want to strengthen yourself in Him, in the Creator that all in all. Of course, in that there are many discernments but that is the most important.
S. But if I do not receive bestowal from the Creator if I don't receive a hug, a cuddle?
R. I did not understand. Was that a question or a statement?
S. That is a question.
R. What is the question? Finish it with a question mark.
S. Which are the things that are pushing you to the ten and which are separating you from the ten?
R. Yes.
S. I do not feel that I am receiving bestowal from the ten when I do not receive from the ten so where do I go ?
R. You need to try to be inside of the society inside the friends like Rabash writes, that a person should be connected to the ten. There as much as he annuls before the ten, of that he should already understand his path but only out of that otherwise he is completely not in the right place. When we become incorporated in the ten and annul before the ten we seemingly attach to the side of the womb, like a drop of semen that is attached to the womb and then it is able to develop. If it is not attached to the womb it cannot develop and you cannot receive nourishment from the womb, from the mother from the Creator. First of all, we have to be concerned about that. As much as possible, to adhere, to be incorporated in the ten and then together with them to continue. Don't think that by this that you are annulling yourself, that you are disappearing, it is not correct, that you would lose yourself. You don't lose anything. By this specifically it is the opposite. You are connecting to yourself, in addition, another step forward.
S. I understand that there's no way to take man out of a vessel except by pain. I can justify the pain. I can also think that, let's see I become a father, what would be my desire for my child. I would want my child to be happy, to receive joy. That could be my only wish and I'm looking from this perspective of the Creator and his relation to us should be for us to be happy, to have joy. But in reality, the will to receive is under torture. What kind of father?
R. That you have to constantly ellevate in your eyes the greatness of the Creator and to that extent you want to feel the suffering but to the contrary as much as you will feel forces that want to bring you suffering, as much as you overcome them you feel Joy and it is truly a holiday that there you meet with the Creator, and in that you measure your degree that you stepped on.
17. S. (40:47) Is it possible that one friend in a ten should be in "I shall hasten and the other one being its time and how do you reconcile such a state in the ten?
R. We reconcile it through the individual work of each one and mutual influence and mutual help of each one.
S. Are there signs that we are advancing in its time or I shall hasten it?
R. You can identify it through our advancements between us.
18. S. (41:31) Can there be a state where after I take a step in that I shall hasten it and then seemingly rest and you lose the path and you move to advance its time?
R. No, no there is no loss here. In truth we are always advancing, even though it seems to us that we are not. We are advancing. The most important thing is if we are working together with mutual help.
19. S. (42:03) We learned that in its time is different than I shall hasten it because there is prayer in isolation and the prayer can only be for others so what does Baal HaSulam mean when he says rewarded I shall hasten it, rewarded in its time?
R. That's we are rewarded with having one desire, in one direction, towards one Creator, and together we try to bring ourselves to a higher state to a greater connection, greater adhesion with the Creator. We have very clear points here.
20. S. (42:44) It says that Israel will be rewarded and take the above gradual development and will bring them their own governance. What does it mean under their own governance?
R. That they will not need, how should I put it, they will not have to be against the will to receive. It's a very good question, a very cunning question they will not have to work against their will to receive but rather they will use their will to receive in order to advance as a force that is also positive towards advancement. That there's nothing bad in the world. The same forces are operating for and against all kinds of falls and ascents etc., but we are already aware that all of these things exist and appear before us to our benefit. We can use all of these things.This is called to 'bless over the bad as over the good."
S. (44:22) Each day I have the freedom of choice and I decide to adhere to the friends and to the path to all the friends, to the world Kli. Is this my own decision, my authority that I want to be closer to the Creator?
R. Yes, through the group, to the Creator. The group is like the template, the model.That if you adhere to it, you adhere to the Creator, without adhering to the group you are not adhered to the Creator, you are not even directed to Him.
21. S. (45: 04)Those who wish to hasten the time, how much do they depend on the development of the generation, if at all?
R. Yes and no, but this is not so important. We advance towards the purpose of creation according to generation, in general we have a surrounding light that we will aso see from this external vessel but the most important thing is the connection inside the ten and what plays in the general process of humanity they are, certainly has an effect but it doesn't influence their work so much. Nevertheless their work is to come closer between us in the ten and the influence of the broader environment, well the Creator arranges that already.
22. S. (46:38) About the chains of time, how to feel them in order to escape them?
R. We always want to run away from the chains of time because this is what is holding us. We don't want to be dependent on time. We want to advance faster.
23. S. (47:12) What exactly pushes the desire to go to the higher degree of development and how do the torments from the previous degree help the terms from the previous degree correct one in the next degree?
R. What I had as suffering in the previous degree becomes as knowledge becomes something positive on the next degree and this is how we advance.
24. S. (47:45) Did we take the law of development in our own hands and in what way did we do it and in what way did we not do it?
R. We are walking on the path, we are now studying how to advance towards the Creator through the connection in the group and more and more from day to day we realize we understand, and feel, and get used to walking in that direction, from the love of people to the love of the Creator. In such a way, I, the group, the Creator. This is how we advance. I'm actually pleased with our advancement. Isee that more and more friends, men and women are entering this process correctly. It is a long way to get used to it. We need to understand it. Each and every penny joins to a great amount of understanding,of feeling of agreement but this is done gradually. It takes place in us
25. S. (49:13) How do we help one another advance in" I shall hasten it'?
R. According to the example, each one must show the example to his friends.
26. S. (49:28) Why should we suffer in the current degree to go to the next degree?
R. Why should we suffer in the current degree? Because any next degree is a greater will to bestow upon a greater will to receive. According to desire, every higher degree has a greater desire. In its module, its absolute value, according to the degrees every higher degree is a greater will to bestow upon a will to receive and therefore this is how we advance. This is why it is not simple to climb from degree to degree. I have to pull from above through the ten forces in order to overcome my desire, my will to receive that grows. Then it is considered that I'm climbing the degrees. I'm rising on the degrees with the connection of the friends, of the group and with the Creator. The Creator is the result of our connection
27. S. (50:58) There are two ways that lead to the same point. If we take the wrong way, can it make us repeat the work of reawakening the reshimot anew and ask ourselves the same questions again?
R. No the Creator is awakening us and correcting us each in every moment, as it says renewing everyday the act of Genesis, Beresheet, or Creation. It does not let us walk all the way, then we see that we are mistaken, then we come back to the beginning and then once again we start the path, no, but rather we need to discover our mistake, but there is an allotted time for that and we become corrected and we continue in the right way.
28. S. (51:57) What hastens our development in the current conditions? Are wars between two countries “shall hasten it”, or “in its time?”
R. Wars were never in the Creator's plan. He hates it, He suffers from it, however, out of lack of choice, if we do not perform corrections over our ego then He has to reveal it in such a way, but for Him it is truly a much greater harm/transgression than it is for us. We have to realize that wars are something the Creator very much does not want, and we have to make every effort to bring ourselves to a dialogue, connection, in all kinds of forms that are against the war. We have to learn how to do it it is not simple of course, it's not something that we are doing in our world but rather if we want to make it so it will happen correctly then it is possible to do it only through the heavens, as it says, he who makes peace in the heavens, will make peace upon us. That's it, only in that way. We first of all have to enter peace, complementation with the Creator, on our degrees, where we are, then we will see how in our world also this piece will develop and become revealed. We will talk about that soon in a broader and more open manner.
29. S. (53:59) How can it be that we can become incorporated and change our pace of development if anything has its own pace and its process of development, gradual process, which is known in advance, as we read about the fruit.
R. It is not a problem, all the systems that we are constructing, we construct them in such a way that each part of the system influences other parts and then they have this flexible relationship between them, each one influences the other, and in this way they all advance quickly towards the general correction. This mutual influence actually helps one another.
30. S. (54:59) On the one hand it says that you have no blade of grass that does not have an angel standing above it and telling it to grow, which means none of us chose to awaken, and certainly this true above the others, the people that we disseminate to, they too are not able to be awakened unless they are awakened from above. When is it hastening? How do we hasten the times, if at all? When, and if at all, do we have freedom of choice?
R. Beautiful question and also the thought process is beautiful. What does this person want to say? If I wish to advance and to awaken my own development I have to bring development to everyone, to all people, to the entire general vessel, and through them I also receive upon myself the same effort that I'm exerting upon the world Kli, and only in this way can we advance. You said it very nicely. Only in this way.
Reading (56:34) “Good and Bad are Evaluated by the Actions of the Individual Toward the Society”
31. R. (58:57) We can see the no one is truly free we are all interconnected like cogwheels inside a big machine in each one determines the level of his influence on others each and every one only has one question; can he influence the others or be only passive and allow himself to revolve according to the others. Since there's one force, the Creator, that operates this mechanism and we will spend with our free choice but a person is only given enough consciousness to process where he's at in the system and no more but if we can’t influence then to what extent we can influence the mechanism of the humanity, all of humanity perhaps in the still, vegitative, and animate and from all of us to the Creator and to receive the Creator's response. How do we do it? How can we digest it, process it, grasp that system and see how it is operated, how we are operated and how we operate. So there are many systems and there are many questions.
32. S. (01:00:28) How is it that in this machine there's a part that is moving in hastening and a part that is moving in its time if it is not the same machine?
R. It's not exactly like the mechanics of a mechanical watch. There are other mechanisms that work around each and every one, for each and every cogwheel. There is an additional mechanism that allows it to spin more or spin less and by that it influences the others, and the others influence it, and in general it is not the upper force that activates them. It is not exactly the mechanism of cogwheels in a watch where each one spins and spins the others. There are other things here at work. There's freedom of choice, the ability to connect but not by itself not being disconnected from its individual role, from its group role, from its general role in the world. There are many things here. You want everything to be so simple like cogwheels: it's far from it but in very specific or special forms we can say that it is like cogwheels. It is like the various mechanical forms and there are many results, many additional results, psychological and others.
S. We always say that by us not doing the work correctly or quickly enough or we connect enough that we are causing harm to humanity, we are having a bad influence.
R. Yes.
S. It seems like it is the opposite. Actually, when we work correctly we are hastening, we are accelerating the development of humanity and it brings more light, more pressure, and more problems. How does our connection influence?
R. We are all inside one mechanism. it's not that you bestow now and later they receive rather when you bestow and they bestow and everyone together we all received from this result, we all receive a certain outcome and feel it either as a good or bad way.
S. I guess the question is too deep. What is this mutual relationship between those who work in hastening and those who work in its time in humanity?
R. This I cannot say. You are right. There is a part that advances quicker and faster and there's a part that advances slower those in “I shall hasten it” and those ‘in its time’. There's a difference of the degrees between them like a head and a body, each one different by several degrees like we see in humanity. You have all kinds and according to the matters of development, education, and culture, it’s the same thing here. It is beyond explanation where we enter deeper into it we develop our vessels first to be able to feel and sort out this picture and then inside of us we build this demonstration and sits on top of our desires and thoughts and qualities, and then inside we receive almost like a copy of the system of Adam and accordingly we are also called Adam. It will come.
33. S. (01:04:40) Earlier you said that in each degree we have to add…?
R. Repeat please.
S. Earlier you said that we have to add bestowal over every degree of the will to receive. Please continue.
R. What is the question?
S. You said that for every degree of the desire to receive we have to add the desire to bestow. What exactly do we need to add to the desire to bestow?
R. No, I cannot hear you well today.
S. [Repeats question]
R. The desire to bestow is the intention and the will to receive is the force so they add to you additional force, additional desire and you need to decide if you wish to use it in order to receive for yourself or in order to bestow, meaning through the other to the Creator so it's is one or the other you determined the direction of the use of the will to receive that awakens in you. The will to receive is in the hands of the Creator. How to use it is in your hands and by that you become partners either you want to use it for your own sake then you are not partners anymore or you want to use it for the sake of the Creator and you are going with His benefit in mind so decide each moment for the benefit of whom and of what you wish to use the will to receive that awakens in you each and every moment.
34. S. (01:07:45) How can we explain the following sentence? It says, “if some malfunction occurs in the wheel the malfunction or other..not relating to the will itself but according to its service and role with respect to the whole machine. How can you explain it?
R. Of course, of course. We are driving in the car with you and suddenly something breaks down. Some water leaks out of someplace in the engine so you pop open the hood, you look and say, “It's not important, it has to do with the air conditioning. Let's keep going. It's not super important. The engine is fine. There's a small pipe that burst in the air-conditioning of the car.” And we continue to drive. This is how you evaluate the damage or it is this possible the damage is done directly to the engine so we cannot continue.
S. (01:09:014) Who is the cogwheel, is it the ten?
R. Both the men and the ten are all cog wheels except there are small cog wheels and bigger cog wheels just like in a watch, have you ever seen it?
S. We see cog wheels that function correctly and incorrectly, what do we do in that case?
R. You cannot say that with precision because it has to do with the role of a person and that has to do with the root of a soul. There are people who barely do anything but it appears this way to us and there are people who run around and do all kinds of things but for them it only keeps them calm. It all depends on the person's character and other things, and we should value the friends accordingly.
S. One cog wheel can carry everybody else?
R. No, you have to work in a mutual way.
35. S. (01:10:26) The desire to avoid the path of suffering, doesn’t it lead me to fall in the reception, should I not overcome the suffering and pray for the ten and for the world?
R. It is true but first I wish to answer the question, what does it mean suffering? The suffering that I feel or the suffering that the Creator feels? Because if we work in order to bestow then first of all I need to avoid causing the Creator to suffer for me. At least, not that he would enjoy from me by pleasure for me, that is already an exalted goal. At The very least I do not cause any suffering to Him. We are talking about that first. We can cause such sufferings only when we move apart or when we fight with one another. Let's say now regarding this Russian Ukrainian War, the Creator is suffering tremendously. We need to bestow to this form as much as possible so that we could stop all the quarrels and conflicts between people. This is how we approach peace and peace is the general name of the Creator, it is mutual complementation, Shalom, peace, mutual complementation between all the egotistical parts.
36. S. (01:12:45) What does the Creator suffer from during the wars, the fact that the created beings are suffering or the revelation of the hatred?
R. It is the same.
37. S. (01:13:04) What should be the right relation to the study of these articles by Baal HaSulam?
R. The correct attitude should be that I wish to format myself according to these articles, I need to educate myself that this is how I need to look at the world, at reality, at myself. This is what we do with these articles: these are articles of the correct spiritual education of each and every person. Because everything that we learned outside of that, say the Preface to the Wisdom of Kabbalah, the study of the Ten Sefirot, all of these things simply add power to us but what should this power influence in us? It is about the primary discernments that we receive from these articles in the direction between us, in the direction of the Creator. These articles are the main aspect of the education and everything else that we learn. Let's say if the mechanism that we study in the study of Ten Sefirot, we learn about the things that we cannot work with yet, they are all our theoretical and in this theory we simply awaken the upper force but in what direction will it work, this is something that we have to establish with these articles by Baal HaSulam and Rabash.
S. When we read Rabash, you right away find yourself the ten there and here it is very hard to see where is this practically for me and to see the serious attitude of yours and your friends in this matter along with the stone to this matter. I feel like I'm making a hole in the boat during the lesson.
R. This just points to the fact that you have more to do to truly copy or what he's writing upon yourself, as it says write it up on the tablets of your hearts, this is how it will happen do not worry.
38. S. (01:15:50) I just wanted to ask about the suffering of the Creator if you could expand on that. How to bring this closer to us emotionally?
R. We can't understand that or feel that and we don't care about that because we are immersed in our egos and hence we can maybe appreciate it a little when sometimes we disconnect from ourselves but almost never. Almost never you see we are opposite, it's not far, it's opposite where the Creator suffers from us. We don't understand how he suffers if everything's in his hands, how does he suffer if he sees for him the beginning and the end of the path and everything that happens to us he already sees it and now everything bad is actually influential for the good and ends in good. So how could it be that it is happy or suffers, on one hand it's written he saying that, in the heavens and laughing, on the other hand, it's written that the Creator suffers, he suffers in our place. We cannot yet, for the time being we cannot understand this, but maybe soon when we begin to work in the Partzuf where in the Partzuf good and bad are seemingly connected together. Even the coarseness, the Arvut, becomes the refinement, the Zachut, then we'll come closer to that understanding and the feeling of how we invert bad to good and how the Creator can also suffer.
39. S. (01:17:42) Until we reach attainment we can't understand what the Creator is happy or suffering from and in relation to ourselves, there's all sorts of desire that drawing us into different directions, this process is also not in our awareness, it turns out that the only thing we can grasp is only suffering and from this to build the connection to the Creator?
R. Yes, we usually attain it all through suffering.
40. S. (01:18:23) The point of my choice is only to bring the suffering quickly to my awareness?
R. Yes, correctly yes.
41. S. (01:18:36) Two questions please, in this mechanism that all the cogwheels are connected together, in such that everyone needs to turn at the same speed if they're connected correctly, even if one is larger and smaller?
R. There's many more systems within that system of Adam HaRishon to the extent that they influence one another as much as they are in the direction of good or bad influence, one another. We can not talk about that now. It is too complex and we can also not talk about it all together until within us, in us, in our heart, in our mind we feel this system and how it works. It's the difference between an expert and someone that just kind of looks at some machine. The expert feels what's happening in each and every part since each and every part is in him. He truly feels it in his belly, yes, in his heart, everything that is happening and that's why we say there is none wiser than one with experience. It is written about him that's what we call a wise, that's one that has within him that system which he's talking about seemingly being outside. That is all together what we attain in our development that we want to build inside of us a form, a model of all of creation where each of us attain the structure of Adam HaRishon in a complete way and the Creator fills it and this will be for each of us and all together. We're coming closer to learn about this, to feel this in all kinds of individual private ways.
42. S. (01:21:18) So I'll ask like this, all the entrances and the exits everything we see in the ten that friends are connecting more, connecting less, that each one in himself sometimes feel closer and further. So all these entrances and exits are necessary in order to scrutinize all these details more and more? I mean the question always remains, why do we continue to see this picture of descents and ascents, are we to scrutinize the details?
R. Yes, yes, because if you didn't come out of the previous state you didn't scrutinize it, correct it then you return to it more and more in all kinds of ways and all kinds of angles, there is no choice, that is how we learn. Also in our life it is that way altogether we need to be taught from above according to the way that we are developed as we can grasp and perceive. That's how it is.
Reading Excerpt: (01:22:31) “And in our subject.…”
43. R. (01:23:15) Meaning no one is valued according to how bad he is but rather how bad he causes the public, no one is evaluated according to the good that is, you can't say that's good, but rather what good did he do. How many grams of good to the public according to that we can say, with that a person actually finishes his life. That is where the calculation is made.
Reading Excerpt: (01:23:49) “These matters are crystal clear.…”
44. R. (01:24:43) This attitude is very clear to us and this is how we need to understand it. There's no preference to any one or any special calculations with any one to start with but rather only according to the extent which a person does good or the other way around to the public. We can see that the approach of the wisdom of Kabbalah as it was thousands of years ago is socialistic in a way, or else how else can you say this, it's modern yes, it says everyone is equal to start with, each and everyone is measured according to what extent one adds, contributes to the society that he lives in.
Reading Excerpt: (01:25:40) “It thus turns out the collective and the.…”
45. R. (01:27:26) In short to summarize this, he does this very clearly and simply.
46. S. (01:27:59) I wanted to ask about all these actions that each and every individual works for the entire society he can either help or prevent. These are mainly internal right?
R. Why external and internal, why is that important?
S. Because if it's internal I want to know if in some stage I'll be able to measure, how I can say each friend will bestow or help so we can know how to appreciate?
R. No, we can appreciate it only on a spiritual level when we can rise to there, on a corporeal level we cannot appreciate or measure the action that someone caused because some of it is in spirituality and some of the small results are only in corporeality.
47. S. (01:28:53) Who decides for the benefit of the collective?
R. In connection, for the sake of connection, for the sake of nearing general unity, I'm specifically not seeing the Creator, I don't want to mix here some names but rather what's good for everyone is called good, what's bad for everyone is called bad, that's it.
S. I don't know, I'm an egoist so I cannot judge from the collective. I can judge from my state and maybe I'm mistaken, what is good for everyone.
R. Of course you're mistaken but slowly you learn from the blows from the environment what's good, what's bad, not according to your ego but according to the desire and general appreciation of the society around you.
S. How is this manifested, like where is this change in my egoistic perception and towards what is outside of me, what's really good for the society?
R. That comes according to how you deal with the environment. I'm in the environment, I feel like I hate them, reject them and I understand that I'm not social and I don't want to be social, and so on and so forth by that I measure my ego. That's how I was born, that's how the Creator created me and I need to work with that, I need to rise from that. Let's say I'm talking about myself, I'm very much an egoist and I reject everyone and I don't want anyone and that's the truth, that's according to my character. Then accordingly when I'm in the group I try to see the extent to which I can nevertheless change myself, correct myself otherwise I don't come to implement my role in all of creation.
S. We revealed just how much we were like this, you can't change yourself because of the nature you are in, it doesn’t matter what you do?
R. You have the possibilities through the society to turn to the Creator, of course you're not asked to change yourself, you're just asking to examine towards the society where the Creator shines upon you and you understand to the extent which you are far from everyone, not connected with everyone. The group for you is the demonstration, the form of the Creator that's being reviewed before you. If you were with them in a complete way, you would feel them like you feel yourself. It's the Creator that's presenting you the situation this way and then you need to ask from him, from the Creator to give you the forces to change, in order to adhere to the group.
S. It turns out that for the benefit of the collective, it's simply a request for the Creator to change with respect to the environment?
R. Yes, we have nothing else to do but to ask the Creator to change in order to be adhered all together in our society and the Creator manages the environment in such a way, the society in such a way, in a general way, ask about that please, that's the main thing. We have nothing else to do to just see the extent we are differentiated, we are distanced from one another and to the extent to which we must ask the Creator for correction. Anyone who's greater than his friend to be great, then his desire,his inclination is higher, his evil inclination and we will try to work on himself more. Therefore the great Kabbalists who came to high degrees of attainment of the Creator went through states that are very not simple. It was very difficult and they asked and received blows, meaning blows, very harsh states and did not leave the path until the Creator corrected them.
48. S. (01:34:15) In order to reach the request for a correction, that I need to feel like I'm a cogwheel and that I am a cogwheel trying to turn in the system. I need to generate this interaction and that I am not performing my role properly in the system?
R. Yes yes yes, enough.
S. How do I generate this interaction?
R. Try to come closer to the friends. Read what Rabash writes about that.
S. With respect to the friends in the ten?
R. Towards the ten as Rabash writes it. Only towards the friends in the ten. Write it down if you didn’t hear this yet, write it down before you and repeat it several times.
49. S. (01:35:19) How do we cause my ten to be adhered to the world Kli?
R. We're not talking about the world Kli yet, each of us needs to be adhered in his ten. Because if you do that in the correct way then from that you will start to understand how to be adhered to a broader vessel, a broader Kli.
50. S. (01:35:52) In the beginning of the question, it was asked what's good for everyone, and initially your answer was the prayer, is that what's good for everyone?
R. What's good for everyone is the way the Creator advances us towards connection between us there's no more than that. We need to understand there's only one problem before us and one solution and that is what is good.
51. S. (01:36:29) When I look at the world, all the suffering, the wars and my attitude towards people outside, how I drive down the street and cut people off. You can really feel the corruption in the world and me. On the other hand you'd say we need to work in the ten and there I don't reveal my corruption to such an extent?
R. That's correct but the correction you can ask for the connection in the ten and that's where you will feel from the connection between you spiritual advancement. Whereas your driving on the streets you'll feel that you're changing and that you're becoming better, so we'll get a shallow upgrade, so what. I don't think that it will influence that much. The main correction is in the connection between people meaning in the ten.
S. We also learn that correction comes out of desires, sensations of pain and I feel I have that less in the ten?
R. Try to raise your sensitivity, to increase your sensitivity.
52. S. (01:37:56) I understood that one should take only what he needs so that he can be included in the collective and benefit society. How will one determine the limits of his needs according to that?
R. He can't decide. He defines this only according to what is written for us that one needs to incorporate in the society until he is immersed in it and dissolves there, disappears there. There is no borders, no boundary of adhesion, incorporation, there's no limits to that. Because I work before the others and the others work in my place and we become one system this way.
53. S. (01:39:09) When you have repulsion towards the friends, are you supposed to turn to the Creator through the friends so how do you do this?
R. You turn to the Creator even though you cannot turn to Him through the friends, that you're repulsed by this or rejecting them or they're rejecting you, but by this you are performing the action. You cannot be connected to them in any way let's say, nevertheless turn to Him, ask.
S. How do you turn to the Creator without the friends though?
R. Because that's the state that he established before you. He stabilized this state before you, He put these relations with your friends, that you're not with them almost at all in connection with them, but rather your in a connection but a very negative connection. And then you turn to Him from that negative connection and you're screaming help.
54. S. (01:40:23) You say many times to increase our sensitivity, how do we increase our sensitivity?
R. I do exercises with this. To the extent in which I want to enter one friend, the second, the third, how much connection I have with them or not, how connected I am with them. You can talk about this together. Awaken some approach toward it, some kind of nearing towards it. understanding we are very obtuse, we are blocked. Through what in our life do we begin to feel something? There you see I come and I hear some music, I don't understand it doesn't move me or anything, and then afterwards I read who wrote it, what he wanted, who he wrote it to, what he wanted to tell me in these sounds. I hear it again and if there's people I talk about it with them, I get their opinions, I care what they say, I'm envious that they understand more differently.
Through that I develop in me a sense of feeling for that composition and that's how we develop. That's called ‘One will help his Friend’, that's called incorporation, incorporating in desires thoughts qualities. Try between you to talk about this in the society and not to reject but rather to receive the opinions of the friends so each absorbs them, truly absorbs them. Then it will be clear to you what that general Kli is.
S. I noticed that if you invest time and heartfelt in something then something grows in your emotion but I can't really say that it's something specific that I do. It is like a general result of investment and work. The question is, is there something specific we can do to increase this?
R. It seems to me that you need to gather in the group and talk about this, simply talk, And then you will see how naturally, freely you are incorporated in one another and you start to feel and understand and hear one another and this is how it will be. You will have more communications between you internally emotionally, and then you'll stop relating to one another as people on the outside like you know, not that you know people on the outside but here there needs to be nevertheless an internal incorporation, and that's still missing.
S. And this sensation is something that's built mutually or something that I feel by me in my ordinary senses toward the friends or towards each friend or towards the ten?
R. In each and everyone and towards everyone together. We are moving to TES or should we move to the women, I don't know what to do?
55. S. (01:44:18) More developed people always move away from material society, so what kind of system are we talking about where everyone is like a cogwheel in the system, how can we see it?
R. To the extent to which we can connect between us we will feel ourselves connected as cogwheels. That each of us is dependent on everyone.
56. S. (01:44:50) What does it mean to take the law development into our hands and why does it decrease suffering?
R. It relieves the suffering because we don't belong to the stick. But rather we belong to something that pulls us forward and doesn't push us from behind. We are advancing nevertheless to the goal that the Creator defined in advance. Only we either advance through blows from behind or an attraction from ahead and that's our choice by which way we advance, that is the only choice.
57. S. (01:45:35) If everything is in the hands of the Creator besides the fear, then what's the role of the fear in the operating of the system?
R. The fear is us wanting to do this according to the will of the Creator. To the extent in which we want to be in the upper desire, that is our fear.
58. S. (01:46:05) Baal HaSulam says that these things are clear as the sun at noon, so why in our days is humanity only distancing from the understanding that good as for the collective, the entire collective and it cannot be good only for ourselves. Why is there no sensation of responsibility for the good in general of the collective?
R. He's not so developed yet, he still doesn't feel that his benefit is connected to the benefit of the world. We can see this according to everyone, according to what we choose. We vote public representatives heads of governments according to whoever's more egotistical, how they can be more for their country and nothing else, you don't see people talking for everyone. They talk about all together we're not in the right direction of our development but rather we are only each keeping himself and each country is watching over itself. Accordingly we also vote for heads of governments. Here we are still an egoistic development. Slowly slowly we're starting now to receive blows that are directly guided towards the purpose of our development and we will begin to understand how all these egoistic actions bring only troubles to us.
59. S. (01:47:53) How can the public care that it will be good for every detail in it for every individual? What will be the rule that advances every individual to good?
R. The law, which according to the correct system is where everyone is connected and the upper light and the Creator is clothed in everyone and fills everyone is closed and everyone. That is the form that we need to somehow advance towards.
60. S. (01:48:32) You said that if we don't correct a certain state then we return to it from all sorts of angles. What does it mean to exit a state and correct it all the way so it won't come back?
R. When I connect myself with everyone and make calculations for the benefit of others, I correct myself fully.
61. S. (01:49:02) What is a blow, what is a correct blow that teaches?
R. When I receive a blow until it physically hurts, truly all kinds of such feelings that are really influencing my ego and my will to receive doesn't let me have the possibility to error again, that's called that I received the correct blow.
S. (01:49:49) How do you see that women will develop these articles that you said would be the correct spiritual education for each and every man?
R. Women specifically can do this more than men because they're closer to education. We can also see that in all the human systems when it comes to education for children, for the beginning schools you mostly see women that are working. Which is desirable, it's meant to be that way for mother's, for women. Therefore, I really hope that women will enter into education and begin more and more to write and establish our educational systems in such a way that they will successfully be able to present to the broad public.