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Baal HaSulam. La garantía mutua (El Arvut)

Baal HaSulam. La garantía mutua (El Arvut)

2 de out de 2023

Morning Lesson October 2, 2023

Transcription is made from simultaneous translation, which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio

Part 1:

Baal HaSulam. The Arvut [Mutual Guarantee]

1. Rav’s Introduction: (01:46) The world started with the Creator creating a desire and the desire is actually the entire substance of creation according to the degrees of nature; the still, vegetative, animate, and speaking are the four degrees of creation and the most important in nature is the speaking. It's the developed desire that feels in the best way the other, it is sensitive to the other and certainly its ego is greater, it keeps itself more than anything and all of its concerns are about how will it use whatever is around it, the still, vegetative and animate, in a way that it benefits itself. This is why the development of creation, the purpose of creation is in that this degree, the speaking, must correct itself and when it corrects itself from the spiritual aspect it discovers inside of itself all of the degrees of the still, vegetative and animate, and all of these degrees become incorporated in it and this is how creation eventually reaches a state where we're all connected, more corrected, we're all included in the uppermost degree, the speaking degree. This is why men, a person, who belongs to the speaking degree compared to the still, vegetative and animate, it is upon him, the entire goal and all the work and all the responsibility that the whole of creation will reach correction, the general incorporation, and everyone will enter together a single desire, the most exalted one so that the still, vegetative and animate will also feel in the end that they belong to the upper nature and this is our work.

When we who are on the speaking degree, the degree of Adam, human, who should reach resemblance to the Creator, we should make ourselves similar to the Creator from the worst degree because everything begins from the shattering and the created beings will discover how opposite they are to the truth, to the Creator, from what is right, then in such a way through the development of something through its opposite. From the worst degree a person falls he becomes lower than everyone until he elevates himself and he will pull behind him all the other degrees of the still, vegetative and animate, through the degree of the Creator and everyone will once again become incorporated in the Creator. This process is a necessary process because the will to receive in us must become aware of where it is and how far it has to  to reach, this is actually our work, but before we reach the correction of the degrees of the still vegetative and animate, which are below us, we need to correct ourselves, that we connect, we unite together and this is why our corrections are gradual corrections from the degree of Adam and downwards. This is why the Kabbalists say that one who is greater than his friend his inclination is greater. This means that a person who wants to grow and get closer to the Creator, to become incorporated in the Creator, means to include the whole of creation and the most difficult is to include all the created beings, all people, so that person must truly have a feeling of others. How? Not just as in psychology to be connected with others, to understand them, to feel them, no. In getting closer to the Creator he needs to feel that he is incorporated with all people, and we see that humanity has gone through thousands of years of wars and problems so that its evil inclination it will try to keep this law but in the negative form, that each one wants to swallow up the other.

This is how it happens in a human society, if animals, including us as animals, use others in order to eat them, to be sustained by them, this is what happens in the state because everything comes from the still, vegetative and the animate. So the speaking degree, the degree of human beings, is actually in that we want to control each other, which hardly exists on the animate degree, therefore, the correction that we have to make in our degree in order to get closer and resemble the Creator is the correction of connection, a good connection not the bad connection which humanity has already gone through in that each and every nation wanted in its history to control another nation but the opposite. We have to transform this history to the point where everyone opens their hands, their hearts, and are willing to be friends. The whole world eventually has to get closer to that and at least in the first stage needs to understand that there is no other way for humanity, for human beings, there is no other way, but only to get closer to each other, to feel that we all exist in a single framework, that we all belong to a single species, and all of our various habits, these are all things that stem from the animate degree and once we rise above them, we leave all of the habits that everyone has back from the animate degree, from that period of time, and we innovate ourselves to the speaking degree.

The speaking degree is what is called Adam. Adam means similar to the Creator and therefore, our behavior begins to be in how much do we get closer to the degree of the Creator. This is actually our goal and our development in our life. And most important on the speaking degree compared to all the other degrees is there are no individuals where it exists within himself. This is the most important and this is the greatest problem, the main principle, conspicuous problem that in our soul, in our desire, in our understanding, we must feel that we belong to a single species. Even though we all exist as animals in bodies, disparate bodies, but as mankind we don't exist in that way, we exist to the extent that we become incorporated in each other and here is the difference between us and the animate; we shouldn’t look at our form, Rosh, Toch, Sof. We build cities, we build technology, that's not the degree of Adam, the human degree but rather to the extent that we become incorporated in a single desire, a single connection, and we get closer to the form of Adam, “as one man with one heart,” as it is written, and whether we want to or not this process, the plan, the program of creation, will bring us to that in a way that there's nothing we can do about it. It works on us and if we don't want to get closer in a nice good way, then we will reach that through suffering - it's very simple. You don't want to get closer according to your understanding and attainment so you will get closer to it through blows, wars, so generation after generation, generation after generation, they will die and those who will be born will have greater sensitivity until they start to digest this process.

At some point in this historical process, among the human beings, people who will start to be born who understand better, feel better, how people should develop and in such a way we nevertheless will attain that the purpose of the human development is necessary, mandated, and it must bring us to the degree of Adam, similar to the Creator. When all of us, if we will be millions or billions it doesn't matter, the quantity the number, but rather what is important is that we will all become incorporated together and we will realize that we cannot have one without the other, but rather more and more and more, we’ll be close to each other internally and until we understand that it will be bad for us and that recognition of bad, of evil, will push us to the right connection between us and we will reach the correct and good place. This is evolution. On its last degree it actually works on the human species in this world and the more we understand, and feel, and digest it quicker, accordingly we will save the blows and our unpleasant states in our development and this is how we will advance. So far are there any questions? 

2. S. (20:40) I heard once from you that everything in front of my eyes is inanimate, not spiritual, we don't work with it. What does that mean and was this vegetative degree in spirituality?

R. The people in this world they're born in the animate form. As usual, from degree to degree, from the still degree comes the vegetative, from the vegetative comes the animate, from the animate comes the speaking. So speaking, that's not us. Speaking is the degree that needs to be born out of us, is a more internal degree. What is the difference between men and beast? You could say well they have two legs, Rosh, Toch, Sof, they have tails or ears, these are not the indications but rather the difference between men and beast is that man has an additional desire in the feeling of others - whatever exists outside of his body, outside of himself - and a person has to develop this desire. By this he becomes connected to people like himself and he builds together with them that fourth degree called Adam, similar to the Creator, and this is how we will develop. However those who still don't have this desire to elevate ourselves a little bit higher than the animate degree, animate meaning those who only live for their body. So they are still on such a degree they can also develop throughout their life to the speaking degree or they might not. Just like it is usual in nature there are no compromises, there are laws that we have to keep, but because our development is an inner development, in our intellect, in our feeling and our awareness, in our understanding, we can do it without dying and being born again, dying and being born again, we can do it throughout one period of life. As it is written, “they all seemed as beasts.” Everyone is born on the animate degree however when they develop they can throughout a single corporeal life, reach the highest degree in man, meaning on the degree of being similar to the Creator, Adam from the word Do-meh, similar.

S. A person is born on a spiritual degree? Then are there more spiritual degrees there?

R. A person begins to feel others not in the way that animals feel each other or as we feel each other, but rather he can come out of himself and feel others seemingly clothed in the others that  a person begins to develop on the human degree, Adam. He develops inside of himself the feeling of others and others eventually is the Creator. The more we get closer to the feeling of the friends and it's not that we want to love them and we have an inclination to that, we don't have an inclination to that. Nobody loves others, it's the opposite. The more we want to get closer to each other we will feel how much our nature resists, it doesn't want it. We need to get closer to it because precisely by getting closer to others, to people, by connecting with them, we acquire qualities within which we will discover the Creator and this is our goal. 

3. S. (26:29) If we don't go on the right path there's blows, war, death and more shattering more breaking?

R. Yes.

S. Here we want to reach the state of connection that here, too, we connect through the blows. Yes, the coupling of striking, so upon these contradictions these blows between us we reach this coupling by striking right?

R. Yes, but there's a big difference between how he exists, each one of us separately, individually and when we create between us a new body that incorporates many parts, individual parts, and in this body we begin to feel something common. This common body to a certain extent gets closer to resembling the Creator on the degrees of the Ibur, Yenika, Mochin  [impregnation] suckling and Mochin. We will learn about it, to the extent that we will get closer to it.  If we just study it theoretically but possibly that we do learn that in the wisdom of Kabbalah but however the benefit is truly minimal.  Meaning the most important thing for us is the practical work and getting closer to each other and truly being in one body. Not according to one, the words, not according to the habits of this world but truly to feel ourselves in one heart. It will come to us and when we build out of ourselves such gatherings, such groups, we call them tens because the complete form of the gathering of the assembly is a ten. Then we begin to learn inside this small structure which is like a cell.

With such cells with such groups of tens, we begin to learn who each one of us is and how much he is rejected, repulsed from the friends and how much he must be with his ten “as one man in one heart.” Truly, just like inside his body, all of his systems operate more or less in agreement between them and understanding between them. Likewise, they, this ten should feel inside of them that they are in an interconnection, in something that they have a connection between them. A heartfelt, emotional connection with the understanding that they have a single goal and they understand it together and they understand how to get to this goal. That each one must fight against his beastly egoistic nature and rise above his beast to the degree of Adam. On the degree of Adam then they can all connect. Before we exit the beastly degree, each and everyone, they cannot connect between them and what we call a ten, meaning on the degree of Adam, resembling the Creator at least to some extent on a minimal degree.

4. S. (31:45) What is the difference between the animate level of others and the human degree of feeling of others speaking degree? You said something about clothing in others. Can you speak about that more?

R. The feeling of others on the human degree it's the first minimal degree from the spiritual degrees and in that we already begin to feel others. It's not yet in a way that we truly want to bestow to them but already it's like little children begin to feel grown ups.

S. If we like to explain this to ourselves and others this matter of feeling to others. If a  person says, ‘yeah, of course, right, I walk by people they bother me or they please me,’ such things but this matter of clothing into others can you grasp on that more?

R. We still can't make such discernments here, we can't yet. On that degree, it's like children who feel the grown-ups. There is some understanding of what happens in a grown-up and a child or in a baby but it's still not enough in order for him to really understand it and to feel it in order for him to become incorporated in it and to learn something from it.

5. S. (35:39) We try to connect this very strong striking from between us. How to exit it correctly?

R. We need to organize between us what we call tens in the group. Which is not just me and the friend who exits, but there are other friends next to us. In such a way we organize group support where everyone is interested in advancing spiritually like Rabash writes. "We have gathered here in order to build a group that will advance toward the purpose of the Creator." This is why each one has the higher, stronger, greater example for the others. This is how we will advance.

S. The progress on the spiritual degree is this upgrade of the ability to do good to the others, in higher forms different forms?

R. It's not like benefiting others but only according to the feeling that they're beginning to be connected so the others disappear more and more. The fact that I want to bestow to him is just like I want to bestow to myself “as one man with one heart.” This is why we can't say that I bestow to others and he is another that's on the one hand. On the other hand, it is another and there is a difference between us and the gap between us grows and I see that my ego is hindering more and more when I try to connect between us. On the other hand, I do feel that he is mine. We will scrutinize more of these subtleties.

S. We're actually it sounds like the difference is in that we are one soul and the ability to benefit others because they are like me close to me?

R. That's right. Even if he's not like me and not even that he's like me, but he is me.

6. S. (35:49) If we try to connect there is a very strong striking form between us, how do we exit it correctly?

R. We need to organize between us what we call tens, in the group. Which is not just me and the friend who exists but there are other friends next to us. In such a way we organized group support where everyone is interested in advancing spiritually like Rabash writes, “We have gathered here in order to build a group that will advance towards the purpose of the Creator.” This is why each one, the higher, the stronger, the greater example for the others and this is how we will advance.

7. S. (37:20) If we can attain a connection between us. How will it influence, how will it influence our revelation between us and what will fill the changes?

R. Certainly in our life, our incarnation when we finish it somewhere on the axis of our development we feel the end of the correction. We continue in the next incarnation because we all have to eventually reach the end of correction of all the desires that became divided, that emerged from Adam HaRishon, through the sin, through the center shattering. Therefore, in any form of life that we receive one after the other, in the incarnations, we get closer and closer to the end of correction. Everything depends on this life.

S. You spoke of the degrees of inanimate until speaking. If there are bad relations between the friends what should we do?

R. There is no room for such relations, for such feelings. We must remove them from our society and society should constantly check itself and improve the connection between us so that we're all friends, we're all loved, we all support each other. We don't have any negative desire, any negative relation to each other. We must truly fight against that in its full force.

8. S. (40:15) You said before that through the path of suffering we will have people who will be more ready. It will come as a result of individual work or an individual soul that becomes corrected or people are become already as a result of a common work of correction.

R. Can you tell me what he said in one sentence?

S. I think he's asking whether the world will change through suffering because it comes from Above in this way or because we were working and making common corrections and as a result of that will have a different kind of people?

R. The world changes by this that the word general will to receive is constantly revealed more and more until we reach its complete correction. To the extent that we can correct the will to receive in each time, each moment, in each generation, to the extent that it opens up and accordingly we would feel our development for good or maybe not so good. That's what occurs but ultimately the will to receive always wants to be revealed from its nature and still, vegetative and animate and especially in the speaking degree is revealed quicker.

9. S. (42:33) I have two questions. The first question is how can I elevate the friend and lift him to the speaking degree?

R. You need to work with him as it is written. You have to work in the group. If you'll be together with me and a few more people. Let's say even if we don't have a ten, we have 4, 5, 8, it doesn't really matter how much. In this we want to help each other, and uplift one another, to awaken. one another. In this we lift each one and that's how we will all rise together. Our goal must be for connection, that not by raising the desire of one man is the degree determined. Rather to the extent that his connection with other people that also want that same goal. How much they understand one another, how much that same goal becomes one goal for all and that's how they get closer.

S. Second question. I can see a friend if he's thirsty, the beastly needs in him. But how can I see the spiritual need for the deficiency of speaking?

R. When you learn with him and speak with him and are already in spiritual development then you feel who he is and what he is in spiritual degrees.

10. S. (45:08) Our development depends on how much we become incorporated in each other, and the Creator manages that. Many times in my ten, we felt a lot of fear towards the Creator. How should we behave and conduct ourselves with this fear and what can we do in order to feel His love towards people, the created beings?

R. The Creator's love for the created beings we can feel to the extent that we have that same tendency to the created beings and not otherwise. Thus, we first need to develop in us love for the created beings and then we will begin to recognize and become familiar with love of the Creator to them. The same and like our world and desires and sensations that influence our feelings. That we, to the extent that we raise our feelings towards something then we can better understand the matter, but if I don't have an attitude of love, incorporation with the others then I won't understand the others, I will not feel them, upon them I will only feel myself, that's it.

11. S. (47:30) If the different degrees that we attain are fixed, let's say, or can we fall again?

R. Of course we can fall again as it is written, “a righteous man falls a thousand times and rises again” but along with this we advance. Our direction is only to grow and thus, even one who falls and maybe even exited our entire framework of study and spiritual progress, he can always return and use it.

12. S. (48:37) In our work for correction, for the correction with the friends it shows us that we fall to the degrees of the animate and the still. What kind of influence does our correction have on the future generations?

R. In our correction, by correcting our souls, we are already developing, we are already caring for this, that our souls, our descendants both corporeally and spiritually, they were developed more towards the purpose of creation and thus, their development will be more spiritual, it's natural.

13. S. (50:41) If a person crosses Machsom in this life, does that person have to be born again to climb spiritual degrees or he doesn't have to be born again to climb the spiritual degrees to reach Gmar Tikkun?

R. That all depends on the private soul of a person, his personal soul, there are cases where he has to be born again and begin from the animate degree to continue his spiritual ascent, and there are those that don't need but rather are born already with a special soul and can develop it very quickly to go through the degrees of inanimate, vegetative, animate and then enter speaking degrees.

14. S. (52:12) You say that people are born on the animate degree but I have a feeling that animals feel people, they feel each other, they have intuition. Actually a person, people, are between the degrees of animate and speaking but people have an illusion that they feel others but in truth they only feel themselves, so can you explain this degree?

R. It's no degree, it's not a degree, it's just the beginning, the beginning of the degree of Adam but it's not yet in that he still feels like an animate, and solves everything like every other animate just for his beastly body. He has no real sensation or need for something else in the meantime, it is written about this, “everyone is born as beasts,” everyone is born as animals, afterward to the extent of the depth of their soul, they quickly transition through correction, complete it and reach the degree of Adam. This is what we need to talk about, to build that system, being that the main thing for us is to develop the Adam in us, similar to the Creator, that's why it's called Adam which is like Domeh, similar to the Creator.

15. S. (55:07) Why does a soul that has finished its correction come back to this world?

R. There are rarely such cases that if it corrected itself that it shouldn't need to return to this world other than for a mission, not for its own need but for others' needs.

S. What is the role of the soul in this world?

R. To correct itself until it will reach identification with the Creator in the complete manner.

S. Can the soul be born in the Creator?

R. No, a soul goes through all of its stages of birth in order to be similar to the Creator and to participate in the correction of all of the rest of the souls until all shall assemble to the soul of what's called Adam HaRishon, that all the souls will be together and that will be the end of correction.

S. My soul, do I have it inside of me or do I get it from Above?

R. There is no soul in man, rather to the extent of his attainments and connection with others that he makes the effort to exit himself and enter then in others. Accordingly, he becomes worthy that the soul will clothe him because the soul is a force of bestowal. If a person wants to bestow to the others that same desire to bestow clothes in him.

S. If I understood you correctly when we get closer and we connect and we give the Creator the possibility so that He can give us a soul?

R. Yes.

16. S. (57:54) A person in this world with a point in the heart, with a yearning to reach spirituality, has to go through many actions and scrutinize for a long time in order to reach the very first degree of spirituality. The question is why is it playing in such a way that it is so difficult and how can we stay on the path?

R. It's not planned to be difficult and not for a long path, it's just that a person forgets what he needs to do in his life, it's like he gets some blow to the head, some knock to the head and forgets what he exists for. If he constantly, in each moment of his life will remember that his entire purpose is to connect with people like him who yearn for the purpose of creation, then he will complete his correction very quickly. That's how we are ready, now to the extent that we realize that, that's already a different question.

S. The implementation is by the person himself, everything is in his hands?

R. It's all in his hands, he's brought to a special ten, the Creator has a special attitude towards him, so everything depends on man.

17. S. (59:53) Can I understand my spiritual degrees?

R. No, you cannot understand before you acquire them and pass through them; it's like a child that he doesn't know, he enters second grade, third grade, fourth grade. He doesn't know what it is, he's taken there and brought there, he sits and learns.

18. S. (01:00:36) The feeling from everything you said is that we see right now a change, a kind of inner acceleration inside of us, inside Bnei Baruch, that should influence further. It's not for us, it is for the next generation, for the future generations, is that correct?

R. No, we are going through it for ourselves here and now, there is no calculation for the next generation.

Reading The Arvut (01:01:51 - 01:02:59)

19. R. (01:03:01) Meaning to begin with from the beginning of creation, look what Kabbalists write to us. That our goal that we have to reach in connection between us is the Arvut. The Arvut is a word that's not so accepted in our life, Arvut, [mutual guarantee], that says that we are each responsible for one another, that whatever one is doing you can come in demand to the other, and the third and the 4th, yes we're all in such a system. That, whatever one is responsible for or what there is some debt to another, we can come and demand to give and receive from each and everyone, that is called, “a society in Arvut, in mutual guarantee”, that's clear.

Reading continues (01:04:05 - 01:04:30)

20. R. (01:04:32) Israel is part of humanity that has separated itself from all of humanity because then they already reached a state where they could understand what is hate and love between human beings, and somehow build systems together. And thus such a nation was formed in ancient Babylon, as we learn, that there was a civilization there then and then they connected. With Abraham's guidance, they connected and decided that they were going together towards Arvut. The Arvut is that each one is responsible for one another, that no one is free, rather we are in a human system in opposition to the rest of the nations and countries and whatever may be. We feel ourselves, that we can determine on ourselves a system of Arvut because we feel that that's how it is from our nature that is in care for us, that it comes to us, the system of Arvut, that we all must feel as part of one system.

Reading continues (01:06:40 - 01:06:48)

21. R. (01:06:49) Meaning that they connect to one another to such an extent that each one feels responsible for the other.

Reading continues (01:06:51 - 01:08:09)

22. S. (01:08:21) What does it mean to agree to take upon ourselves this action?

R. We agreed to be responsible for one another, that's it. Meaning you are responsible for what happens to the other.

23. S. (01:08:49) Now after the Congress I truly feel the whole world Kli really as one ten and now I come back to operating inside of my ten, what kind of Arvut is required of us right now? How can I be responsible, a guarantor, for all of the friends, feel concerned for everyone?

R. We need to care for all of our friends in the entire world, men, women, to make an effort to connect and to tie them to all one body.

S. What does it mean in practice now to care for every friend, it's too big?

R. Yes, but we're not told we have to be in some small village, rather the main thing is that we have to be in such a common sensation between all of us that we all belong to everyone.

S. How is my concern manifested, my concern to every friend who is on the other side of the world?

R. It doesn't matter, if he's a friend, the distance doesn't determine so much. If you care for him it's a sign that you are already in one network of connection.

S. What do I care for him about, in what?

R. In the heart.

S. About what, what do I care about?

R. That he will be well and learn in advance and day by day will take steps towards our common goal in which we all want to meet and be in one heart.

24. S. (01:10:41) What is the relation between the human degree, Adam, and Arvut, mutual guarantee?

R. Whoever enters the Arvut, mutual guarantee, he is called Adam because Adam is a system, a system of Arvut.

25. S. (01:11:11) what it says here, it is highly concerning. How will I be able to know better than the friend what he needs or at least as well as he knows?

R. You need to make the effort to open your heart and the Creator does the rest. You need to open your heart to all of the friends, to all the people of the world, to everyone, in the desire to incorporate with everyone, to include everyone, all the rest, let the Creator do it.

S. If the Creator really participates in it and we have to keep the Arvut between us?

R. You cannot do anything without the Creator fulfilling it, the Creator is the general force that ties and holds us, all of us, how could we without it?

S. Who cares for the needs of the friends so he will no longer have to think about himself, is it me or the Creator?

R. The Creator of course but then your assistance that you aim Him, that you are like a small child that grabs Him and pulls Him towards where you need it.

S. The Arvut is in that I obligate the Creator to help my friend?

R. Yes.

S. The inability of a person to speak to the Creator in such a way so he actually can't keep the Arvut also?

R. Correct but nonetheless, we need to make the effort to the extent that we can, and the rest will open up and develop.

26. S. (01:13:05) Before a person cares for himself completely, he cannot keep the commandment of ‘love your friend as yourself,’ right?

R. Yes and no. Nonetheless, he has to care for his family and his created beings… and care for this that he was to be tied with everyone. There are things that are hard for us to explain in our language but slowly we begin to understand it from within our soul.

27. S. (01:13:58) Is part of the Covenant of Arvut to give Maaser?

R. Maaser, yes of course, that we give the Maaser in order to cover all our needs in building the general vessel, yes.

28. S. (01:14:31) In the Arvut you take responsibility for one another from a perception that we are all not corrected and help each other get corrected. On the other hand, we say that everybody is corrected but me, so how do those two work together?

R. It will work out, don't worry about it, everything will come together to one whole.

Reading continues (01:15:19 - 01:16:55) “For this reason, they were not ready …”

29. R. (01:16:57) Meaning there must be some normal, minimal existence for man that above this he can already care for the other but if he doesn't even have with what to exist, he cannot care for the other. Then he has no obligation to care for others. Each one must be concerned that he has everything he needs for the existence of his own self.

Reading continues (01:17:42 - 01:18:13) Thus, you evidently find that the ….

30. R. (01:18:17) Meaning we know that the people of Israel are not a nation there are people from all kinds of nations that lived in Babylon, and from there they escaped, they left, there was no other connection except for the fact that hearing Abraham who told them, let's disconnect from all those who were living among them. Then they entered into Egypt and in Egypt specifically by the Egyptians pressuring them they made a nation of them. Meaning what is this nation organized by? By the fact that it has enemies, haters, and that's who presses them this way. That is how it is. This is the part of the nation called Israel. It's not one tribe, it's not one nation and there were many people that intermingled in such a way and out of there being the exile in Egypt from that they connected to one nation. Meaning in them someone infrastructure took place.

31. S. (01:19:54) What does it mean that they became a nation that let them accept the Arvut?

R. Wait for that. First they became a nation from the Egyptians pressuring them and they were like slaves, and from slavery as they began to rise more and more from that level. Then they became humans, people and from that emerged from what came out.

32. S. (01:20:45) What does it mean to qualify for the Arvut?

R. It's a certain special development in a person who understands that only the society that is connected and cares for itself and it's not dependent on other nations is qualified for Arvut. How many such countries and nations do you have in the world and you say none of them because you say that the whole world is dependent on one another but there's nevertheless between them. On one hand, they're the most primitive nations that are independent of one another, on the other hand the most developed nations that could be, meaning to be qualified for the Arvut their need to be conditions.

S. What conditions do we have to reach together to be able to qualify ourselves for Arvut?

R. We will be qualified for Arvut when we live amongst all the people in the world, no matter where we live in all of the countries and continents but we know that our connection, our mutual connection which is spiritual, makes us a special nation. Special people that yearn for adhesion and revelation of the Creator.

S. There is sort of a micro Arvut in the ten and then you can grow to larger Arvut?

R. Yes, yes, that's how it expands.

33. S. (01:23:20) You said that the enemies are conditioned to the Exodus. Why do we need the Exodus?

R. Continue.

Reading continues (01:23:43) "The giving of the Torah had to be delayed….."

34. R. (01:25:13) Israel is not a nation but rather anyone who yearns to the direction of the Creator is called Yashar-El, direct to the Creator, that's why he is called Israel, it could be anyone there's no division here to anything. Therefore, everyone needs to eventually yearn for the revelation of the Creator either from the side of bad where it's bad and we don't know why we're alive and what life is for, or from the side of good where we're trying to attain the purpose of creation and rise above all of the nature and reach the purpose of life, and then either these or those and then both lead to a state where they demand for the Creator to be revealed and clothed in them.

Reading continues (01:26:20) “We therefore see that all of Israel is responsible for one another.."

35. S. (01:27:33) What is that action of keeping the Arvut, “we shall do and we shall hear?”

R. When we accept this law of Arvut, when we are all connected to one system, and each is responsible for the whole system, and if each doesn't observe what he must observe in the system then the whole system is corrupted already, does not exist. Therefore, each and everyone has to be there and each needs to engage in the whole system in a way that the system will be incorporated and whole.

S. What do I actually need to understand that I'm about to do some action I don't know it's result of?

R. You need to connect everyone together between everyone and for one goal. That's it. That's why it's called Arvut.

36. S. (01:28:50) How can we relate correctly to one another in a virtual environment and in an equal effort?

R. Yes, he is right.

S. How to do it in a virtual environment? That's how we are studying, how to relate correctly?

R. You are a virtual generation, I cannot say that about myself because I barely use it. Try to be connected between you in such a way that the connection between you will be just as you enter one room. All those who sign up for the Arvut system need to see himself as being in one room as the others. No matter what language, no matter what time and you are all there in that virtual room and you are all caring only about one thing: to sustain this connection between you upon your head.

37. S. (01:30:14) How to be in a group that the friends are already ready for the Arvut? What steps should we take to be in a similar type of Arvut for the entire world Kli?

R. It's a lot more difficult, but we will try and you will get to it. We don't yet have the feeling of the world Kli, groups exist already here and there they feel themselves that way as a group.

S. Can we ask the Creator to help us?

R. Yes, undoubtedly.

38. S. (01:31:32) What can we do if there's a part that doesn't agree with the Arvut, that hasn't gotten there yet, to agree?

R. Ask from the Creator, ask from the Creator.

39. S. (01:32:16) The nation of Israel came to Arvut because they were at a dead end?

R. That's how we reach everything.

S. Can we even reach Arvut if we don't feel to the bone that we are dependent on one another?

R. That's very good, it testifies to the fact that we are in a negative connection, and now we need to change it to a positive one, we will succeed in that and it's much easier.

S. What do you mean that it's easier?

R. It's easier than it was in the past. We see that for decades nothing changes, absolutely nothing, there's friends like you from the United States and a few others that were here maybe 20 or 30 years ago, there's an inner feeling, there's understanding, we've been through several stages, we had to go through them in the connection between you and in the disconnection, now the time has come to resolve this problem and I'm very happy to see you here.

Reading item 18 (01:35:29) Twice.

40. R. (01:37:05) Meaning we are in that boat in that ship all of us, and we cannot be saved from drowning if we each care only for himself, where one drills a hole and then the other doesn't care and doesn't think that it depends on him because he thinks everything is okay by himself. All together, everyone needs to come to a state in which either we all drown or we are all saved. One or the other, that is all of us. The key is in the word, ‘all’ of us. We can see that our world is showing us our true state. It is very quickly advancing towards this, and it could be that already in our times we will feel that in which we are all either to the death or to life, all of us, not some portion of the life that will be saved and the second, yes and the third, not and like each one there will be no escaping it but everyone, let's say, from waves of heat and cold or some spaceship or by the explosion of all of our bombs. We are in a state in which either all of us will live or all of us will die. You will have to disclose to all of humanity just like that person who is sitting in the boat and says to his foolish friend that if you continue this way then both of us will drown in the sea, so stop it. We need to be ready for this role. This is the command of the Arvut that we must explain to all of humanity, and this is how we will advance.

41. S. (01:40:07) About what you just said, 100% of everything in humanity they're working according to the system to drill in the boat and for us what force do we have in relation to that compared to 8 billion people working according to this criteria except for us?

R. That's how important it is if we need to bring an idea to an upper idea, an exalted Godly idea that's enough to one person you don't need many people. You don't need many people to explain the manner therefore, we will succeed. We just need for the time being to wait until all of these conditions will be accumulated together.

42. S. (01:41:25) What are the typical holes that humanity is drilling in the boats that we should identify that we can jump upon those hole drillers? Maybe we can use this in dissemination to identify what are the holes the people are drilling?

R. I don't know if we already have today, already proof to explain to people that they are in a boat that is about to drown, you see what's happening now in world wars, from Taiwan to Ukraine and others there. I don't know if we're capable of explaining to them that these things are not okay, they're not hearing yet, but in the near future it will connect together with ecological blows and it will be easier for us to explain, but them, too, I am not certain that it's enough whether this blow is sufficient for people to hear.

S. Like you said, maybe it's easier to approach environmental sustainability issues like pollution that we are killing ourselves on earth. Is that not an approach yet or what?

R. I remember in the 80’s I had a friend that was very much an activist in ecological systems. He was an expert, an intellectual from the university I talked to for many years and he said that humanity is concerned less and less about ecological influences upon its life. Maximum, we will build something artificial, maximum, we will run away from earth to some other place, meeting people who don't want to see before them the blow. What can you do?

43. S. (01:45:05) What are the actions that cause a hole in the ten, the drilling of a hole in a ten?

R. When each of us wants to do what seems good to one's self that's it. That's what I think this is good, you think that's good, you on your behalf, see what I'm doing and are truly screaming that it will destroy our whole ship. Where all of the earth will explode. I don't think that it will be that way. I look at it a different way actually and that's a problem.

S. The fact that we have different opinions is what makes us drill the hole?

R. It's true, that's the whole matter, that we think that one mind, that one head and that's the whole root of our problem.

S. Then the correction in the world depends on if we don't drill the holes in the ten or the ten won't drill in the world Kli?

R. No. Each and every ego that a person wants to use by doing so he drills a hole. There are people who drill holes as one person, and the whole world enters into war and millions of people are killed. There are those that as if they want to drill some hole, they're not such horrible results there are different ways. We need to be concerned with humanity understanding that it's in one ship.

44. S. (01:48:10) When I see that my friend for a long time is trying to drill in the boat, should I keep annulling or should I comment about it or should I let the Creator take care of it?

R. If we see in the ten that someone is going to bother a ten from being more connected, then we need to say so, both to the ten and to the person.

45. S. (01:49:10) I see that when humanity needs to discover the state that each one is responsible for the other, we can't, because they discover suffering or deep pain to take responsibility for everything that's happening in the world. The question is and we, too, when we advance we discover that we are responsible for horrible things that are happening. How can we advance in happiness and joy, towards the goal, towards our correction because I think that every step that we take there is pain in it?

R. There's a little pain as long as we don't understand that the Creator’s the One who's tricking us so that we'll know how to go through these disturbances and build ourselves above them. It all comes from the Creator, He's the one who's playing with us.

S. Sometimes it feels like.

R. What can you do so you receive a few blows?

46. S. (01:50:52) About the hole in the ten, if a friend misses an opportunity to connect to the ten, is he responsible for the lack of connection in the whole ten?

R. Well, yes and no. I can't say a complete answer, I can't.

47. S. (01:51:54) The responsibility of every friend of the environment depends on every friend or is it a result of his freedom of choice?

R. It's a result of his free choice.

48. S. (01:53:10) You said that one man with the right thought is enough. This man has to come to Kabbalah and what happens then and how long will it take for the others to stop thinking?

R. It depends on his work. There's nothing you can do. That's everyone's work.

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49. S. (01:54:15) Humanity will have to come to a state where everyone is dependent on one another. I think that people with inner intellect are capable of understanding that but they don't have a force that can change the nature of man.

R. Only the Creator's is able to do that.

S. Do we need to explain to people that there's a force that is more powerful than our nature that we can take this force out and work with it? We won't have to explain it?

R. Yes.

S. The convention gave us a feeling that the best state is connection and the lack of connection is death and we will give humanity the flavor of that connection.

50. S. (01:56:04) We received examples of the qualities that are more smooth and some more harsh. I can really feel here in a rigid way. If someone asks in a very clear direct way why are you not in Arvut? I feel in my ten there is a softness, they said this was a friend would justify him in advance. There's some kind of sharp eruption where we won't blaze each other with criticism. We can't talk about Arvut to scrutinize together and to ask together. How to find the right approach so that we are prevented from being in those extremes?

R. Gradually, softly but be persistent and stubborn and demand from the group to keep the Arvut. No more than that.

51. S. (1:58:09) After two days of the convention, we would like to hear from you?

R. I think this convention was very successful, more successful than the previous ones. I think that we already after supposedly, after the end of the convention and we have at noon, we have a lesson but I will be from my room.

S. Yes, also our friends from the world Kil vessel are going to Tiberius.

R. They won't be in the lesson?

S. Friends will connect together on this trip.

R. Okay, so whoever stays will have a lesson according to that and that's it. Then the next lesson is tomorrow morning.

S. How do you summarize the lesson?

R. I think if we went through a passage, a transition we don't know exactly how to do it, how the connection is going to take place, and we came back and ascended again. On that level of Arvut, [mutual guarantee] and connection, mutually. That's why now everything is before us on a completely different level, on a different, much more responsible level. It's clear in a deeper way, it's solid.

S. What's ahead of us?

R. Ahead of us is exactly to make those ties of mutual guarantee between all of us together in a way that it won't stop and won't expand. We need to go on, meaning to put together a system that will be in the Arvut [mutual guarantee] and in Matan Torah, the giving of the Torah. Meaning that the Creator can be revealed in it in a more disclosed manner and we will be in contact with the upper Force not that we are observing from our level downward but that from our level we are looking upward, towards the Creator. In that way we will start to rise, to rise to discover Him, to connect with Him, and then we can reach the purpose of creation. I have nothing else to say, I really hope that we are doing it. Part of it we attained in this Congress, part of it we will attain from our studies until the next congress and the essential part will be attained in the next Congress in Turkey with God's help. Okay.

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