Morning Lesson January 16, 2022, Transcription
Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio
Part 1:
"Faith Above Reason", lesson 3 - Selected Excerpts from the Sources #18
1. Rav’s Introduction: Yes, we continue in the same direction. We need to exert to arrange our mind and heart for us to be together. Each shall help his friend and as much as we can think in the direction of bestowal and connection, above our nature then with such efforts we make room for the upper light to start working on us, to push us from the degree of Malchut to the degree of Bina. From reason to faith, from reception to bestowal. To start feeling, what does it mean a vessel of bestowal which is above our reason? This is something new. It is something we did not know of before. It is a different nature. It is not something that we can imagine, like to give or to participate in something, since everything we can imagine is nevertheless imagined in our vessel of reception. Here we acquire a new quality, a force and intellect, feeling from the other world, from a higher quality. The effort we have to put in and inside this effort the Creator will add His own power. And in this way, we reach a new quality, and we will truly be the children of the upper world. Let us think about this. How to be incorporated in this, how to be drawn to this, how to give the Creator the strength to clothe in us and to bestow like that, to push us forward to correction.
Reading #8. From excerpts on “faith above reason,” twice (02:49)
2. R. (06:38) And then relative to these opinions that we have, our egoistic opinions, relative to them we can establish this new path called faith above reason. It is very difficult to depict it, we cannot find it in us, we cannot find it in humanity, and we have no lack for it. How can we arrange ourselves on this? First of all, the vessel is a deficiency. We have no deficiency for it, so we have to form various actions that fit the upper world, the spiritual man and see that we are not capable of doing them. And we need to develop a lack for this, some kind of lack at least to see that we are incapable of doing it, not that we need it but at the very least we are incapable of doing it. And then accordingly the upper light will start to influence us and will start to somehow grow in us, cook in us somehow. This matter that belongs to the quality of bestowal, the quality from the upper world, is a true miracle. This is called the miracle of the Exodus from Egypt. A miracle since we have no grasp on it. So, let us try to come closer to it gradually, although in truth the more we regret the fact that we lack it, it will be a huge advancement. We do not need to acquire more than that, simply a deficiency for faith. And more like that we will accumulate more such movements. And these movements awaken the reforming light that influences us and truly inside of us it begins to grow, to establish something new. And “a penny and a penny accumulate to a great sum.” We will feel more a little bit like children who are growing up. They do something. They do not know why, what for, or how. Some do it instinctively, some do it imitating the grown-ups, and this way they grow up. And we also need to let the light influence us and arrange us spiritually.
3. S. (10:10) What is the connection between faith above reason and love of friends? Is there a connection?
R. Of course there is. We want neither. Both of them are against our nature. We have no business, no interest in loving others only according to food, sex, family, money, honor, knowledge. According to these tendencies we conduct ourselves through our lives. There is no love of others there. Where it says food sex family, I love food, I love sex and I love family, that is what belongs to my body. Additionally, there is money, honor, and knowledge that already belongs to my environment. Other than that, a person does not have natural tendencies and all those foods, sex, family, money, honor, knowledge, they change in respect to the place where the person is, and it is all in the vessels of reception. The vessel of bestowal we do not even process unless it is those people who have the beginning of such a desire called “the point in the heart.” And accordingly, we can develop that desire. So, the Creator brings the person to the good fortune, a place where they explain it to him. And he gets an opportunity to develop the point in the heart, which is the beginning of the spiritual vessel, meaning the beginning of the deficiency for bestowal which is the upper world. This is the world of the Creator. So, he begins to hear, and it might take years before he begins to hear, to listen, that it is truly speaking about mutual bestowal. That is why you can develop it through connection with the people who are next to you, that the Creator arranged for you when He said take it. And in this way, we advance.
4. S. (13:02) The thing with faith above reason is that it comes in one ear and goes out the other, if it even comes in. The question is what can you really hold onto?
R. Each person who is within our framework even outside the framework has a tendency for faith above reason, except it is an internal tendency. The person does not feel it as a true deficiency. But this tendency, specifically this inclination awakens him up to continue on the path and to advance. Our tendency is concealed from us, but it attracts us to the spiritual vessel, to the quality of bestowal. What does it mean the quality of bestowal? I do not live in the quality of bestowal. It is opposite from me. I hate to bestow, I hate to think of the other, it does not come to me naturally, and “he who is greater than his friend his inclination is greater.” So, he rejects the others even more, and we are the greatest egoists. We think that those who chase money and honor are the big egoists. No, there are small egoists. According to the level of their ego they want to receive something in this world and that fills them up, but we are not satisfied with that. We wish to know our King, to attain Him, to acquire Him, to understand Him, to be connected to Him. In truth to seemingly manage all of reality, this is how big our desires are. That is why we come to a state where we can realize it in this way according to the desire. And the means for organizing our desire is the upper light, nothing less. We cannot be pacified by fulfillments of this world: food, sex, family, money, honor, knowledge, they will not satisfy us. We do not reject it, but we do not want to live for it.
S. How to increase this inner tendency that exists in each one toward faith above reason?
R. There is a desire in each one and this desire, need to be developed. And because this desire has to open up toward bestowal there is a problem here, a problem to start with bestowal. So, we barely connect in the group, we try somehow as it is written to come closer to one another. It all seems to us as secondary, unimportant. We still do not understand that deep inside the connection between us in the internality of the connection, there lies the access to a new reality, the next world.
S. So what do we expect if we are not clear what faith about reason is?
R. We can never progress in spirituality when our intellect, our mind goes before us, ahead of us. You asked what to expect. You cannot, you do not have it. You need to perform various remedies which means everything within your power to do, you should do as Kabbalists say. And you do it like a little child who does not know, and he develops, and this brings him wisdom, and this brings him greater orientation in life and so on. You need to do what they are saying. This is called belief in the sages. If you do that you will be able to attain it quite quickly. We entered the study of faith above reason, and we must acquire, receive it, reveal this quality. There is no problem there. There is nothing that hinders us. On the contrary, all the forces are ready to help us acquire faith above reason although it is a new nature, it is a new world, an upside-down world, an inverted world. As it says, “I have seen an upside-down world.” And also, this inversion we cannot quite imagine what it is. One who attains it understands it and feels it. One who does not he cannot understand, and he cannot feel. He cannot grasp it in his feelings, in his intellect. But they tell us exactly what we have to do and although we do not understand like little children nevertheless, we have to do as it is written, “that the Creator, the Lord has created to do.” In this way we shall do it and we shall advance. It is quite close to us.
S. What are those remedies that we need to do?
R. First of all, each shall help his friend. We need to inspire one another, reinforce, and give strength to one another. In order to do that we need to feel that we are never apart, that we come closer to one another, we are willing to help one another. That we try to walk above our corporeal nature and in this way we advance. We need to learn together; we need to help one another in everything. We have to share our impressions, our confidence. We have to use envy correctly. You will see it, after all those are the forces, those are the conditions that become apparent in us. And behind all of it is the upper force that shines to us from a higher degree. When it enters our state, we begin to see a difference, a gap between the degrees. Sometimes it confuses us, other times it throws us down, those things, because we have to take all those states, as necessary. Because the vessel that we fill is called a deficiency. What deficiency do we have for giving, for bestowal, for faith? What deficiency do we have? We do not. So, if we do not have a deficiency for it, how can we advance, how can we discover anything? We cannot. So, we are left as if helpless, we do not know what to do and what should we do then? Therefore, our path is a very special path, extremely special, and it is not revealed to philosophers or to various wise people, only to those who accept it. That is why it is called the wisdom of Kabbalah, of reception. It is the wisdom of how to receive those forces that can arrange us spiritually in the form of bestowal, in the force of Bina, the upper force. That we would feel and reveal the upper force. Not that we would learn about it and talk about it, and it remains outside of our perception. Spiritual perception is the clothing of the upper force that we come to know and feel, much more than we can feel one another.
5. S. (23:49) It is said that if there is no reason then it cannot be said that we can go above reason. Can you explain this concept? What does it mean that I do not use correctly the left or the right and I only have to go on the right?
R. It is not like that. We think that we can construct our path according to our logic, with the help of our logic. It will not work, no. We need to advance the way we do. You can try, but just know for our minds to build a path for the force of faith it is impossible. Humanity has been trying to do this for thousands of years and it cannot. Not through the intellect, not through feelings. We have no other vessels but the mind and our feelings. So how can we do this? By creating this template from the relationships between us, this pattern. And we use all the forces through the Kabbalistic texts. And through that, the correct template we build, the way we construct the tens, arrange them properly as one man with one heart, then we receive the illumination through Kabbalistic texts. And it changes us, and it builds us. We will see it on ourselves. You cannot explain this in words. The light that exists in all these actions and in their words. It will influence us, and we will be able to feel it upon ourselves. And this is true for everyone. Every person in the world without exception as Baal HaSulam writes. Red, black, white, yellow, it does not matter who or what, everybody is worthy of it and can come to it. And the world consequently will become more integral, more interconnected, interdependent.
6. S. (26:50) With Rav’s answers to the friend’s questions, how should we best accept them? Within reason or above reason?
R. It will not really help to tell you how to do it one way or another. Each one accepts them according to his advancement. And his advancement depends on how much he can incorporate himself to the friends towards the goal. It does not depend upon one’s intellect. And his feeling he has to acquire from the right connection with his friends.
Reading nine. Twice (28:50)
7. R. (30:05) Meaning all of our desires, everything that is revealed in us. When we wish to know, to come closer, to feel all those things. We need to feel, it is good that it is revealed, but the form of the fulfillment itself needs to come to us spiritually. Meaning through the force of Bina in faith above reason.
8. S. (30:33) What characterizes the mind that leads to faith above reason?
R. Nothing, faith above reason comes to us from a higher degree and it awakens us; what awakens us is the upper light that wants to bring us closer to bestowal. And the intellect, the mind, as a result of our actions when we try to do them, we will develop our mind and intellect in such a way that it helps us to come even closer to actions of bestowal.
9. S. (31:24) What to do if we do not identify the place where we can rise above reason if there is no opportunity?
R. We expect the upper light to help us from above; we pray, we ask, and we wait with a strong desire, with great anticipation. nothing else can help us here. Only the help from above because it all comes from above, it is an upper quality, the quality of the Creator: “If the Creator won't build the house, then nothing will help you.”
10. S. (32:11) What does it mean to receive everything in faith above reason?
R. Faith above reason is the vessel that already has the intention to bestow, and its action is above itself, above its ego. That is the simple interpretation: the desire to receive that is aimed in order to bestow above its own nature where it wants to receive entirely, and feel that it receives, how it fills it and in what way it improves its personal state. And if he can rise above it, he wants to feel himself in an action of giving similar to the Creator, as he was the source of bestowal, the source of fulfillment, then it is considered he is yearning to be in faith above reason in giving above his reception, to use his vessels of reception since we have no other vessels, all our desires from 0 to 100% are all desires to receive. And that person wants to use them in order to bestow. How is it possible? By acquiring an intention over the actions, above his desire to have an intention whereby doing something, he will actually do good to others. So, he needs to receive the feeling of the other and how he can fulfill him, and to know how to do this. All of that has to become apparent to the lower one.
S. So everything that I have is what I have to give to others, with my intention?
R. No, you do not have to pass anything over to others, you have to learn what it means, reason and what faith above reason means. This study has to take place in our desire, on our very flesh. Slowly, gradually, another verse, another verse, we receive another bit of light of understanding, it comes in it goes out, but in the revelation and expansion of the light and its departure, the vessel becomes qualified for its role, this is how it works.
11. S. (35:38) Faith above reason, is there some limit that you give to yourself, or you throw yourself in there and do the work above reason completely?
R. If I want to come to know this on myself, I do not even know my reason, what is my reason and what is faith and what does it mean that one is above the other? How can this happen inside of me, I do not know these things. I want the Creator to teach me; how will He do it? When I am in a ten and I want to relate to the friends this way, let us say. So, the Creator is somewhere up there, it says, “from love of the created beings to the love of the Creator,” so first of all we have to arrange between such relationship. So, I have a friend before me, and I have to try to relate to him contrary to what my ego is telling me. So let me try to do it, let me ask the Creator to help me build here the true attitude connection, of love and bestowal. And from this I will learn what needs to be, what are the qualities of the upper world, and in this way we can advance. Since why do we find ourselves in such a big world, mankind, billions of people all interconnected, For what? In order to consume each other as if we are doing already? Rather, we have to learn about our connection: how do we go from the form of reception, our ego, to the form of bestowal? So, in order to do that, we need to perform several changes, perhaps in our corporeal relationships, and from that we will begin to approach spiritual relationships. It will be easier for us to understand those things. Of course, it repulses us, and many friends will drop out because they do not want to do this, it will not be so important for them to get to know the upper reality this way, but there is no other way. We go exactly according to what the Kabbalists write to us, and this is what we have to realize.
12. S. (38:54) What is the connection between the spiritual discernment of faith about reason and how we understand it in our regular understanding that I disagree, but I accept it, or connect with what Rav’s saying, or to ignore what I see in the friends. So that simple explanation in faith above reason?
R. We cannot exchange reception for bestowal, we do not have the strength to bestow, we simply do not, and we will never have the power to bestow, never. We will never know what the force of bestowal is in and of itself because I cannot be in the place of the Creator. I can only resemble Him with my power of reception and from that, I will understand Him, I will feel Him, I will be like Him but only ‘like’ Him, this is where our boundary, our limit lies. And this limit will nevertheless allow me to be in adhesion with the Creator, to come to this because I will perform actions; although I am different according to my foundation, my matter, my desire to receive remains intact, it is alive and kicking, but above it I construct my quality, my expression, which is entirely like the Creator. This is called fate, the force of bestowal, above reason above the force of reception. More than that, I cannot achieve and do not need because the created being remains a created being and the Creator is always remaining the Creator. There is only an ascent on the creature from its place to the place of the Creator, to adhesion. And specifically, because of how different they are, how opposite they are, there is the revelation of this mutual power of the creature and the Creator, and the Creator and the created being.
13. S. (41:40) What does it mean that the “emptiness can be in the place of entity''? What is this about?
R. “Emptiness in the place of existence what does this mean as if the Earth hangs on nothing.”
That the person has to come to his own annulment to such an extent that he has nothing left of his “I” except to glue his “I” to the Creator. All the other discernments he is to give up on, and in place of those he receives the force of faith, the attitude of faith, the force of faith has many attitudes, modes, and styles.
14. S. (42:49) You say that rising above reason is to rise above the Malchut but what is this Sephira of Daat? Does it have a role in faith above reason?
R. Yes, there is the Sephira called Daat which connects a Bina and a Malchut, we will learn about it later, but there is such a thing: the point where the quality of Bina and the quality of Malchut meet.
15. S. (43:43) There is entrance of the light into the Kli and exit of the Light from the Kli, so faith above reason is some readiness of the Kli to receive the light?
R. It is better to say that faith above reason is when the vessel wants to get to know the light, but it cannot, it cannot. Only on the condition that it performs an action of bestowal then “from your actions we shall know You,” from that we come to know what the light is. Because the light itself is unattainable, we cannot feel it, but we attain the results of the influence of the light. We will come to it; these are more internal things.
16. S. (44:52) You said before that you think that with time certain friends will leave the path because they will not feel enough importance for spirituality. Simple question: how do I not find myself among those who leave the path and how to help the friends?
R. By this mutual protection, “each will help his friend,” I help you today, you help me tomorrow. So, we need to have the feeling of mutual guarantee, like in the single boat, we are all sitting in a boat on a stormy sea and the Creator is stirring up the waves on purpose. So, we would feel that we depend on one another and on the boat. And even through that stormy sea, we are in adhesion with the Creator since we need to understand that our adhesions to Him is through this storm that He is stirring up on purpose; and we are grateful for this storm or otherwise we would not connect among ourselves and we would not connect to Him since this is what works on our ego, which is our nature, is this storm that we can feel in our lives. And this is why we are grateful to the Creator for taking us through these torments, and we are willing to suffer as long as we get corrected because otherwise our ego will not listen. This is the path; we accept and thank Him.
17. S. (47:18) As we move forward in faith above reason, will the evil inclination put greater obstacles before us?
R. Yes.
S. And is there a state where the person can advance faster and joyfully above all the obstacles?
R. This has to do with the degree of adhesion the person has to the group and in the study and possibly in dissemination, which is also very important in our time, so it might depend on this as well. The more the person has a disposition towards the ten’s internality and the more he is aimed outside of the ten towards the correction of humanity, the general correction, these things can help the person greatly. This is why Baal HaSulam and Rabash and a lot of Kabbalists as well, they all spoke on the importance of dissemination, dissemination inside the group and dissemination outside of it.
18. S. (48:53) According to item 9 what is that emptiness that allows that created being to exit his nature and discover the Creator in faith above reason?
R. This emptiness begins when I feel empty. I do not feel anything from this life and when I search for fulfillment as high as possible as exalted a fulfillment as possible and from that I come to the understanding and awareness that it cannot be a fulfillment for my ego. I begin to look down on those kinds of fulfillments and I begin to appreciate fulfillments of bestowal since by that I resemble the Creator, and this is how the person advances.
19. S. (50:29) It says in item 9 that the emptiness needs to be filled with exaltedness, meaning above reason and to ask the Creator to give this strength. Where is the point where I need to turn and receive this strength?
R. Everything is in my desire. meaning in my heart. I need to discover my desires. I need to sort them out, organize them and see what is the primary desire with which I can approach the Creator. The desire that I can present, offer to the Creator, and ask him to correct it. Where is that desire?
20. S. (51:38) You told us that we have no deficiency for bestowal can work with 'faith above reason’ just on the basis of rejecting quality of reception?
R. We do not know what the desire is to bestow. The desire to bestow is the Creator. We can only install the intention of bestowal on top of our desires. Meaning that I work with my desires to receive. We do not know this yet. We have not started to work with it yet. We need to work on our will to receive but the essence of our action has to be as bestowal, as giving. Let us take the example of the mother and her baby. She is willing to do anything for the baby. It is clear to us that the mother is the great desire to receive, and the baby is a small desire to receive. She is willing to do anything for the baby. Is she doing it truly for the baby or for her? We understand that inside of her there is desire through which she is connected to the baby and the baby for her is more important than herself. She is willing to put herself to death as long as she can keep the baby alive and in a good state. This is nature. We can understand that the will to receive does not interfere with us. It does not prevent us from relating to each other through giving. It all depends on the attitude of the intention. How do we use our will to receive? That is it. That is why he who is greater than his friend, his inclination is greater. We will advance with our will to receive. Our will to receive is getting bigger and bigger. We are not going to break it. We are only going to correct the intention, but the will to receive is growing more. We do not need to regret it. On the contrary, the more it grows the better, except that I need to have control over it not that I myself will control it but the Creator. I will nevertheless manage it. I will try to constantly demand from the Creator for correction of my will to receive. This is how we work.
21. S. (54:46) How does dissemination efforts affect the reception of the light that reforms and faith above reason?
R. It is simple. We are inside the general will to receive, which is the broken Adam HaRishon, the shattered Adam HaRishon and this form does not disappear, and it does not change except for what seems to us as the connection between the pieces becomes more restricted or bigger but nothing other than that. There is nothing new except that we will see that according to our qualities, corrections we will see bigger parts and smaller parts that are connected more or connected less. This is it. We need to try to connect to one another as much as possible and disseminate the method of correction, the purpose of correction, to all of humanity who is in a state today where it does know what is happening, not in the past or future. We have to explain to them. There is no one else who understands it better than us if we are talking about the true form and not that everyone wants to become a profit. Let us try and let us try and the get them as Baal HaSulam writes in his articles
22. S. (56:37) You started to talk before about the need to make actions in the ten and that we just need to make actions suitable for spiritual purpose. Can you repeat what are those actions that are suitable for a spiritual person to do in the ten?
R. Our teacher Rabash writes in the 'Social Writings". You know these social articles, so you need to please open them up and read them. They are not long. They can be read during the day, come together during the day on your phones and read them. I recommend this and I am addressing everyone. This is worthwhile doing. We cannot escape these things. I understand it seems to you as a secondary thing and not so important as to have good relationships between us. No. is not about good relationships. These are spiritual relationships. This is what he is writing about.
23. S. (58:01) You describe a state that the person has a dialogue with the Creator, the question is, is it correct to share this dialogue with the friends in the ten.
R. Why not? I do not think there is something there in my heart that does not exist in the heart of the friend but try. Try to do this gently. You can talk about what is in a man's heart. He, himself, does not exactly know, he himself does not exactly know, does not exactly feel but we can talk about it. There is no prohibition on this. There is a matter of what is concealed in one's heart that cannot be opened because the friend can touch that egotistically and make a corruption, it is written. Here we are talking about our path that we have to come closer to each other and aim ourselves together to a single Kli and that is what we should talk about together. This is what we should discuss. This is called the main thing in the gathering of friends. We are talking about the group. We are talking about the group gathering and discussing the essence of our connection and how much we need each other and what we need to do to actualize the connection between them.
24. R. (01:00.00). Where are we, excerpt ten? I just want to say a few more words here. It is not a problem that you do not remember what we are going through, but when we are going through some quote, try to penetrate it beyond your mind. All of you together. Let us say right now we are going to read this quote, we all of us, all of the world Kli. We all want it, right now. Let us try to be together and inside the Creator, let us try. This is exactly the matter of a pomegranate that he writes about this is from Shamati 13, Pomegranate.
Reader: Excerpt 10. Baal HaSulam. Shamati. Article 13 “A Pomegranate” (01:01:11)
25. R. (01:02:25) Let us say that we get together, and we read this excerpt and each of us feels that he wants to ask the Creator, but we each have to ask for the others. For the others, if I ask for myself, then as it is written in another place, that instead of causing myself progress I am doing the opposite. I am moving away from the goal. It is said there that 'one is prohibited from asking for himself'. Find the source, find the quote, that 'one must not ask for himself. “One who prays for his friend is rewarded first. One should help his friends and all these quotes we need to understand that it is worthwhile for us to come together once or twice per day and try to read some quotes we choose in advance and think through these quotes of how much we think about the friends. Forcefully, of course I do not want it. This is called above my desire. This is already called 'bestowing above receiving'. To some extent, we do want to reach a state where I pray for the friend's success and they do the same for me, and that means that we are truly in a single boat together. Everyone cares for the others and then certainly in such a boat we sail to the desired place, to the right place.
Reader: Excerpt 10. Baal HaSulam. Shamati. Article 13 “A Pomegranate” (01:04:34)
26. R. (01:05:50) We have to bring ourselves the states where we think we see that we are incapable, because then we have a reason to turn to the Creator. We turn to him and demand, help me. I am standing in front of a wall, and I cannot move. I have no choice. I need your help. This is what we need to reach. All right?
27. S. (01:06:27) S. In the excerpt it speaks of emptiness. Is emptiness a lack of faith to attain the goal by myself? Is this the intention?
R. No. The fact that thoughts of emptiness come to a person, meaning thoughts that have no content that are aimed at the purpose of life, that is aimed at the purpose of life creation. This Is just nonsense, all kinds of nonsense. It is in order for a person to want to have a need to take upon himself faith above reason. Meaning that we will see the Creator is filling us up with all kinds of nonsense, because it all comes from him. Why don't I have such good, exalted, lofty thoughts? Why do I have such nonsense in my questions and thoughts? In order to sort them out and say, what is it that I want? For this we need help from the Creator. Meaning that one must ask of the Creator to give him the power to believe above reason. That is what? That is all the thoughts come from the Creator, all the desires awakened by the Creator, and I want to direct them in the right direction, turns out that precisely then one needs the Creator to help him. How? To sort out correctly.
Everything that he receives but certainly everything comes from the Creator to begin with but if comes for us to sort out scrutinize it and then build what we think of as good and what is bad and each time sort out our vessels like that by the light that shines on us, which we still don't feel as light, but it is the desire and the mind for it. This is precisely since the exterior mind lets him understand the opposite. Therefore, he asked the Creator to help him to shine light in the right direction. It just says one's desire every day. Who is doing it? Obviously, the Creator here raises our ego and whatnot for the Creator meaning we have been turned to him and ask for help otherwise he will not overcome it, so we need to understand we are working with the Creator here the king that brings to life and puts to death and forth salvation. Puts to death and brings to life and brings forth salvation, is the middle of line. That we ultimately reach the goal.
28. S. (01;10:06) It says that servants of the Creator hate the bad. Is it a necessary condition for building the correct intention, the correct intention that we need to bring to the Creator?
R. We cannot love or hate, we cannot push a button and then love or hate, but the result of our work of our correction is that we love giving and hate receiving. As a result of our correction. That is why it says, 'those who love God, hate evil’ because one cannot achieve love of God unless it happens through hating your will to receive meaning the intention to receive. That is how it works.
29. S. (01:11:18) The request, the question keeps changing if we could ask the Creator right now, to succeed in seeing and imagining the action of the morning lesson from within our vessels to bestow, what should we ask for what do we reach to grasp from this occasion creator friends teacher?
R. We want the connection between us to take on the spiritual quality. That is it. This is what the Creator wants. The Creator wants us to connect between us in a way that he can be revealed. His desire is to be revealed to created beings and that is possible only by us connecting. Humanity has no other problems besides connection, and you see what is happening all around. That everyone is fighting and biting and waging war and on the other. On the other hand, everyone wants to do business, connect with each other, and make a living off each other. We are always in connectivity. Bad and good, negative, and positive, and so our work is to be the center of the correct connection between human beings. To show everyone what is the future, the correct future for the world.
30. S. (01:13:24) I heard you say that we have to bring ourselves to a state where we are incapable, unable, and then to ask. How do you know where to stop and say that we cannot do it anymore?
R. I cannot tell you. You have to clarify with the friends. If all of you reach a state where you cannot go further and you yell and cry to the Creator, this is the place where the Creator awaits and expects this to happen between you. That you truly need him, that is good. Not that you are crying before that. Before that it is unnecessary. It is like children cry and we feel it is nothing.
S. Why is it easy for us to believe the Kabbalists, and believe what they are depicting, the future states? And if a friend acts and tells us about an advanced state it is hard for us to believe it. Should we believe the friends? In the way we follow you, should we also follow the friend?
R. The friend should be in spiritual work more important than I am. If I connect to him, I connect to him because I feel that without him, I am lost. And if he disappears, I will not find anyone instead of him. And it is the Creator who brought us together and said take it and hold onto each other. We need to understand that the connection between us is the spiritual connection. It is not about whether we live or die. The connection is a connection in the vessel of Adam HaRishon. It is an eternal vessel. And the fact that we connect now in the physical world is only an opportunity that we are given to somehow be in contact between us. But in truth we have to come to an internal connection and establish it forever. Then it will be spiritual.
S. So without the friends you are more lost than without a teacher?
R. Of course. You can take some books instead of the teacher some books for example, there are plenty of books. It is written that there are many ways to the Creator, many routes to the Creator. Each one has his own trail to an extent, but without a friend with whom you connect and build. Two is the least plural, at least one and if possible then ten. So, if you do not have that you are really lost. We still do not feel it. We are still in the first phase. It is the most important, it is the building of the spiritual state, the spiritual conditions, which is I am dependent on the friends, I am dependent on the power of faith above reason. And these are necessary things. We have to get into this work. It is the hardest degree, toughest degree, it is a transition from one world to another. And there are many states in it when people think that they are there, and they are not there. It is not simple. So, we have to simply keep going, keep going, just keep going all the time. And accept that whatever happens, happens, and I have to continue. As it is written “anything but leave.” There is this condition, anything but leave. So, whatever I experience, I experience. I can tell you from my experience I have no choice, I have to continue. This is what I would tell myself, I have no choice. Let us say in 1979 I came to Rabash, something like that until today. That is, it 40 years. Until today I am in it. And I will continue until the end of my life and beyond. There is no choice, there is no other way, and what am I living for otherwise? This is what everyone should say. So, questions in this direction I did not actually expect to hear.
30. S. (01:19:35) There is a desire to ask about fear from His name as it is written here that it pushes us through corporeality or is there something beyond that?
R. I do not know, and it is not important to me. The Creator will do what needs to be done. Whatever happens, happens. More, less, I do not ask forward. I also do not ask if I will know more or less. I want to accept the next state with the power of faith. With the power of faith means that I do not care what happens. I care in what way it depends on me, how I will accept the next state every minute, the next minute, how I open it up. So, it is important that I open it up. That I start it with connection with everyone. And then it is certain to be corrected. In the ten I should accept every state and then whatever happens I do not care. I am worried about the situation that I will be organized with the ten in one vessel, and what the Creator gives us I do not criticize it in any way. This is what should be. If we are organized correctly in a ten, we will receive what we should on the path of development until the end of correction. This is how we have to position ourselves.
S. I am not thinking about what will happen tomorrow?
R. It is forbidden to say this, it is forbidden to say that it will not be tomorrow. You can think that but to say that aloud to friends, it is forbidden. On the contrary you have to say it might not be today but tomorrow it is certain that we will achieve it. You have to be very careful with what you pass on to the friends because it comes back to you several times more so. And by this you will stop yourself until it throws you out of the ten all together. You must not say that. We should always awaken and be thankful and warm up the society.
31. S. (01:22:46) It is written and today we mentioned that a person cannot ask for himself. But in excerpt ten it says that a man must ask the Creator to give him the forces that he will be able to believe above reason. How should I work with those two demands?
R. These are not contradictory conditions. I want to have the power of bestowal so that through the force of bestowal I will be able to connect to others and build a spiritual vessel. Bestowal is not forbidden to ask for. On the contrary we should ask for it and use it as much as possible. This is not what it is about. It is not forbidden to ask, but to ask for an egoistic filling. But if I am asking for the correction of the vessel? On the contrary, moreover, by all means, this is not what it is about. Clear?
32. S. (01:24:09) How to build the right intention between us?
R. Through what is written in the articles of Baal HaSulam and Rabash, I cannot tell you more. Each drop joins into a great amount. You need to read about it more, talk about it more, try to be connected to each other. If you cannot assemble the whole ten during the day then 3 or 4 or how many there are because it will influence everyone, nevertheless. Try to connect in this way and awaken one another.
33. S. (01:24:59) How to go from a monolog to the Creator to a dialogue with Him?
R. This Mister depends on you, it depends on you. When you reveal the Creator, you will be connected to him differently, but in order to speak with the Creator you have to have the Creator within you. You have to acquire the quality of bestowal and then you will have the quality of bestowal and the quality of reception within you, and in between them you will be able to speak. This is called “speaking with the Creator.” We never connect to anything outside of us, only to what is within us. If you remember about the perception of reality, we learned about it. We are in this situation, we are in that state where all the results of the efforts, approaches, everything comes to that point of connection.
34. S. (01:26:37) Could you be more precise on how to feel a deficiency for spirituality?
R. Only through the friends and what we read in the articles. I have to try to build spirituality in the connection between us. When we have some sort of connection, that connection is a connection of people who are indifferent to each other. Each of us is more concerned about his own interpersonal state. So how do we elevate our group state to become more important, higher than the personal state of each of us? Could we imagine it or not? The minute you can imagine it you already are moving closer to faith above reason because in practice this is how it happens. The connection between us is only the connection to the vessel of Adam HaRishon and we just have to depict to ourselves what we have been learning all the time. We have been learning about this for years. It is not shameful, it is true that it does not penetrate our hearts and therefore it seemingly disappears, but we learned all of that. Let us now start realizing it.
35. S. (01:28:33) Is it right to say that if we do not have a deficiency for forces of the next stage it causes confusion in us. Are we still confused until we acquire the next deficiency?
R. Yes this is how it works, through confusions, through all kinds of states. So what? The main thing is patience. And each drop joins into the great amount.
36. S. (01:29:11) In excerpt eight, what does he mean when a person has to say to the nations of the world within him. What is that?
R. All kinds of thoughts, foreign thoughts and desires that do not belong to attainment of the goal, which is adhesion of all created beings to the one upper Force.
37. S. (01:29:41) How is the Arvut expressed towards a friend that is going through a burdening of the heart?
R. We have to nevertheless become closer, all of us together to each and every friend. Especially to those friends who are now experiencing some heaviness, corporeal, spiritual etc. We have to understand that it is not that person but all of us are going through this. And we should pray here and perhaps help in some corporeal way as well. There are many questions about this. Well, we will try to go through them as well, but at least we have to be aware of what we are all going through in the ten. Really. So, we need to come closer to each other, support each other and be more friendly with each other. It has nothing to do with the physical distance whatsoever.
38. S. (01:31:22) In the future will the world connect directly to the Kabbalistic sources?
R. I do not think so. I do not think there will be a time when the whole world - at the end of correction? I do not know about the degrees at the end of correction, everything changes there. But in the meantime, there is no capital without a leader and therefore there are many teachers and there will be more because each one has his own character and his own approach. Let them be. I am in favor of it, I am in favor of having many, maybe they can be like the Sanhedrin. Afterwards they might be able to connect among them in order to manage humanity in a more crystallized, more clarified, more correct way. I do not think it will happen so quickly. There has to be preparation from below which will compel the teachers to connect in this way from above. In the meantime, the teachers, those who teach today are still not ready for connection among themselves. Each of them is concerned with his own ego to his own degree, even if spiritual, but still each is limited in terms of where he is. So, let us hope we will come to a time when the public and its teachers will rise up and we will be able to be connected. Because although there are many ways to the Creator, by character. We learn from history that there were Twelve Tribes and that they were forbidden to intermarry between the tribes. We still need to clarify what it means that it is forbidden to intermarry between the tribes according to the three lines and the 12 degrees. At a time in the future, it will be different. We have to do what we have to do in the meantime, and the rest will come according to the degrees, according to the degrees.
39. S. (01:34:24) How can I feel my ten inside my heart all day long?
R. Effort and prayer. From yourself, demand an effort to constantly try to remember them. Make a reminder there on your phone which you keep with you all the time. Try to connect among yourselves to decide that you are thinking in the next hour about this sentence and in the following hour you will think about another sentence and go through the day this way. And twice a day you should connect among you to read our excerpts and maybe an article, etc. Ideally, we should have among us this management which makes sure that all of us read the same material during the day and that in every place the group will receive in its language the material to read during the day. Someone should manage it because if we are already in this, on this level, if we have advanced to this level then we should already start awakening our common field, and it will influence everyone. So, we have a feeling of a constant congress.
40. S. (01:36:29) On one hand we say that there is tomorrow. On the other hand, we say if not today than when. How to connect all of that in faith above reason?
R. I want to attain everything today. But if I do not attain it and it continues to the next day then I accept it calmly. Because once I have done everything I could do today for the next day, then it is no longer me, it is the Creator's decision, and he arranged tomorrow for me. Clear? Good.
41. S. (01:37:30) What to do with the fear that I depend on the friends and my future depends on them?
R. This is wonderful! if you are afraid, if you feel that you are totally dependent on your ten there is nothing higher or greater. No greater help from the Creator than when He gives to the person that feeling. When I feel that I am totally alone in life and there is no one holding me, or no one can help me, and I am alone from moment to moment; I am going to disappear altogether. And at the same time there is this feeling that if I hang myself to the ten - egotistically, on the lowest level, then maybe I will be saved. This is my chance to be saved, not from death but from oblivion, from complete deletion. If a person receives this feeling from above, from the Creator it is a great salvation. Beautiful, I wish we all feel it. That without the ten in spirituality I am lost.
42. S. (01:39:11) If I heard correctly, your answer to someone was that you cannot answer pessimistically in the ten and to always raise the spirits. And that every action comes back to your times more. Can you explain or draw how this system works, that every action comes back to oneself?
R. I cannot draw it in any way. That every single act, how it begins, how it ends, you have to draw it. Each day create a new drawing, a new diagram and you will see how you cannot draw it. It is unrelated to the things we draw in general. You need to know that Kabbalists did not really like to draw. The diagrams I drew, I drew a lot. You can go into the archives and see thousands of pages of diagrams I did in color, in all kinds. But the more I advance the more I agree with Rabash. He did not want to draw, he wanted to convey only with words. It limits. It is very limiting.
S. So where does my action go to? We do an action, where does it go to? What point does it reach and come back to us?
R. Our action comes to our heart if we connect it with the friends. Then from it we can turn what we have, after our correct expression towards the friends, we can express it toward the Creator, to turn it toward the Creator. That is it. What is to draw here? I do not know. You have to feel it. As it is written, “write on the tablet of your heart.”
43. S. (01:41:54) Question about what you said before. You said there should be some kind of committee that is in charge of sending studying material to all tens of the world Kli, and that everybody will read the same materials?
R. Yes ideally, we should go from day-to-day during the day in a more solidified way, our whole world Kli.
S. So today the connection duties, what we used to call Gabai and Shatz, they decide what we are going to read. It is taken from the morning lesson.
R. Does everybody have the same thing to read or not?
S. Not everyone reads the same thing.
R. So I am talking about everyone. Call it the main person on connection duty, but those people will determine what all of us deal with, what we engage in during the day.
S. But from all our study materials there is so much. Today we have faith above reason. You also mentioned long articles in faith above reason. And you said to read Rabash's articles on society. Sometimes you recommend that we study the Preface. There is an abundance of material, how do we choose correctly?
R. Choose correctly? I do not know. With respect to whom are we talking about? If you take all the social articles and faith above reason, then of course that is first of all. Long complete articles we cannot do that and give it to the groups during the day, for them to read to study. This has to be something very concrete and concise and something that is possible to understand and discuss among them. Not that they will read a few lines and be left bewildered, no. They need to understand it and talk about it, say a few sentences about it. And it will be clear to them that if they realize what they read they will advance.
S. If we are following this line that we take the materials from the morning lesson, let us say the excerpt we just read. We read them throughout the day a few times and go deep in them. So that is all of us. And that is the right line to follow?
R. I would add to it Rabash’s articles about the group, at least that. But people need to sit and think about how they awaken our world Kli. You need to think about it, to feel it, ask all the friends. Open up some mailboxes where they can send recommendations from each one and all of the groups together. Men and women, okay? Now we will take a break and move on to the women.
44. S. (01:48:39) We have an understanding of the quality of reception. Is there such a thing as understanding in the quality of bestowal?
R. Also in reception we have all in all what we understand as a corporeal understanding, how to fill our five main desires: food, sex, family, money, honor, and knowledge. We have nothing else. Food, sex, family that is what we have on our beast degree, what animals have. And money, honor and knowledge, animals have a bit of it but it is mainly in humans. And more than that we do not have it. That is why in the corporeal world we can take example sometimes, but we cannot really draw anything from that to the spiritual.
45. S. (01:49:51) When we receive this vessel of faith above reason, will we then be concerned with their friends in the world and not with ourselves?
R. It will be the same thing. If we reach spirituality, we expand our vessel. I start feeling the world as my own, as myself, no difference between me and the world. It is like now you can say that there is me and my family and maybe another broader circle. So, all these circles start expanding and it depends on our feelings. It is not that someone manages it, it is us. I start acknowledging that all the people on earth more and more belong to me. I start being more concerned about them, but not in a corporeal beastly way as before, like my relatives. I really start seeing this vessel and being concerned about all of it.
46. S. (01:51:33) You talked about the mutual force of the Creator and the created being. What is that for us? Can you elaborate?
R. I do not understand what they are asking.
47. S. (01:51:48) We heard you say that the world will come to faith above reason too. What kind of faith will they come to? Is it similar to what we have to achieve?
R. It is written that they all knew me from small to big “because my home will be a house of prayer to all nations.” Meaning we will reach a state where everyone will know the Creator. And by our incorporation, everyone being incorporated in everyone in that round vessel of Adam HaRishon, like a sphere. So, we all eventually reach the end. We reach the same feeling, the same attainment the same understanding, the same adhesion in that one Creator. That is called “to be as one man in one heart.”
48. S. (01:52:38) At the Congress you gave us an exercise to constantly be in dialogue with the Creator. Does it mean we have to connect all our thoughts, desires, and intentions with Him and build ourselves in relation to it?
R. Yes, we constantly need to be concerned about it, that we will be in one heart. And in that one heart we will establish conditions to reveal the Creator.
49. S. (01:53:10) What is the difference between building good human relationships in the ten and building spiritual relationships in the ten?
R. For good relationships, so you can go to any organization you want and let them maybe give you good relationships, I do not know what. They will take you to some retirement home or some convenient pleasant place where you will have a good time. I do not understand what you are talking about. The correct relationships in the ten are good. I do not know what good is. Good means what will bring me to the complete good. It is that I connect to the Creator.
50. S. (01:54:11) Is being in faith above reason in the group mean to always see the friends as great and perfect and accept what they say as the word of the Creator?
R. Why are these questions? Isn’t it clear? We talked about this a thousand times. Either someone is making a joke, or they did not hear what we studied for months. Ask questions to the point. That we will really get from the question and the answer some step ahead.