Morning Lesson January 19, 2024
Transcription is made from simultaneous translation, which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio
Part 1:
Rabash. Article No. 26, 1991. What Is Revealing a Portion and Covering Two Portions in the Work?
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1. (01:00) Rav intro: Spiritual attainment, it happens through stages, stage after stage. There is concealment and revelation, concealment, and revelation, and one cannot be without the other. It is like day and night, day, and night. “There shall be evening and there shall be morning and they are one day.” We have to be, have to be ready for it, we have to know not only why it happens but also how it happens. How we can fit into that, how we can influence that. As it says, you shall have day as well as night. that we can, then, connect the nights and days to literally one day so both the night will be as day. Let's read and we'll add more along the way.
Reading: (02:40 - 43:14) “We should understand this matter of ...”
2. R. (43:24) Thanks to the narrator and any questions if you have.
3. S. (43:35) I wrote many questions here, so stop me when you feel. He starts from the beginning of the work; he says number one is still of Kedusha and a person starts to work in the still of Kedusha. What is still for condition in the work for Kedusha?
R. Sacred still is that a person carries out what he was taught, the commandments of the Creator.
S. That's why I'm asking, it confused me, I wasn't taught to observe the commandments of the Creator. I was just disclosed a portion, some desire and awakening, and here my spiritual path begins; it seems like most of us are like that here. So what is one like not relevant to us?
R. It is a little different.
S. He simply repeats it all the time, because even after you cover two portions, then again he needs himself to still be without?
R. Continue?
S. I'll continue to my second question: What is the awakening from below that needs to be given after the Creator takes the awakening away. After He seemingly covers two portions, there's this awakening of below work that needs to be done. What is that in our work?
R. That by the study and by connection with the friends one receives from the environment, an awakening.
S. Can we say for the sake of the matter, that that's our still of Kedusha? This framework seemingly of coming to the study and to put oneself there?
R. That too, but regardless of the framework, the way he was taught, that is what he continues to do.
S. Why in the work does it seem like the descents, the covering of the two portions in time, they seem to be much more, much longer? That a person receives little illumination for a period of time and then it's taken away for a very long period of time.
R. That's how it seems to a person, but it doesn't have to be that amount of time.
S. I think he writes about that in There Is None Else Besides Him in Shamati. That the descents are much longer than the ascends. Why is it like that, what’s the purpose?
R. So that a person will hate the descents.
S. If he were to hate the descents, that’s the question, that's good! The thing is why is he in a descent because he doesn’t feel that thing, it’s not felt as bad. It's like he's disconnected from spirituality, he feels like he's disconnected from spirituality. He flows with it and goes in the flow.
R. This is a matter of accumulation of feelings and states.
S. Yesterday, I don’t know if you remember, but a friend asked about a friend, there’s a certain friend that is seemingly coming to the convention for the friends. It's like he lost hope that something will happen. He's like in some covering two portions, from what I understand and he's coming. But for years, I mean, why would the Creator do that? Why does the Creator give a person hopelessness, what is that for?
R. That is how a person thinks, if he were truly out of hope, he wouldn't come.
S. This work in coercion that we're reading about, that a person needs to coerce himself until he receives another awakening. How to not disregard it? He says you have to be cautious not to disregard the work in coercion. The will to receive naturally disregards coercive work?
R. Yes?
S. How can we be cautious of disparaging such work?
R. You have an environment, study, lessons, teacher. In short, all you need to strengthen.
S. How to not disregard it?
R. Not disregard it, is again, by strengthening with the environment! You have nothing out of yourself but on the outside the Creator arranges a whole world for you. So both from the world, you feel pressures and unpleasantness. Also from your small environment ,you ask for awakening, strengthening. You have the means to advance.
4. S. (49:21) A person is in study for many years. Then he understands that it was all due to the will to receive. He did everything due to the will to receive. How do we come out of that round and move from reception to bestowal?
R. As written, asking for a change, the light that reforms. Making efforts, doing specific actions to come out.
5. S. (50:12) Disclosing a portion and covering two: I’ve reached a certain concealment, double concealment, certain revelation. I fall to a double concealment ? When I lose what I attained, is that possible to happen?
R. According to your feeling anything can be.
S. I mean according to reality, are my feelings lying to me? I want to know what’s really happening.
R. What is really happening, you are not going to know.
S. What am I here for?
R. That's only after revelations that will come, then more and more and more. Then you reach a state where you truly know through revealing the system that governs you. Then you will know what's going on.
S. Let's say when I come to such a state, is that something you can lose as far as concealing of two portions? Can you go also from that?
R. It is not covering two portions, that is already a different thing.
S. I didn't understand at all, okay, thank you.
6. S. (51:35) When there is the revelation, so he says that, there's a place to contemplate. As far as I feel it, whether it’s like a relation, we'll call it intelligence that is not yours, or some kind of mindfulness that's not yours. Is that the meaning of what we should be working with?
R. I don't know what state you're talking about?
S. How do we do this contemplation that of something that's being revealed?
R. But we don't yet have a spiritual mind.
S. It starts from revelation and then disappears. When it disappears it's supposed to be on its own, the work. What is the force itself that works? Let’s start from the opposite.
R. What are you authoring a book? You're talking about things you haven't yet attained. How do you say, then this, then that. All in all, you now have some opportunities to try to understand what is going on with you, that is it. Why is it happening? You still cannot know.
S. What do I say to myself instead of asking why is this happening? Because that's the natural question. If I put this on the side?
R. No, you can ask, but not in such a way that you already know, and you turn it this way and that way. Try to scrutinize through the society, through the force of the remedy, try.
7. S. (53:42) About doing actions he writes, there's a difference in the work if he does some kind of satiation or on the Ten. How do we impact on the Ten in a way that we will do it out of love? What impact does the Ten have here?
R. You cannot yet make actions out of love, you cannot. It is not the degree yet, it's not the state.
S. From what, now, do we need to perform these actions? So that at least we will know from this we need to do these deeds?
R. I didn't understand.
S. Now, every friend in the Ten knows that he has to perform certain deeds.
R. Yes?
S. Due to what reason is he engaged in this stage of ours? From what do I need to do this deed?
R. He wants to do an action out of his own strength. As much as he sees that he cannot, then he prays and asks the Creator for strength. The Creator brings him all kinds of means for it. To incorporate with the group, to pray, to study and so forth. And then ultimately, he comes to a state where, yes, he has some force to make actions in order to bestow. That ,too, is not exactly in order to bestow, but that's how it happens.
S. What is to somewhat bestow? Right now I'm doing actions in the Ten and it's already called with the direction of bestowal?
R. That you truly want, through your work, to achieve an action of bestowal. Even though you don't know exactly what it is but you're aiming for it.
S. One more last thing about the Ten. He writes; therefore a person needs to be cautious to not be impressed from descents by a person learning how to appreciate the importance of the nearing of the Creator.
R. Yes.
S. So he writes that we shouldn't be impressed that a person receives descents.
R. It means not to be impressed in a negative way by being thrown away. Rather each and every descent is in order to further appreciate each and every ascent.
S. What is the attitude in the Ten that you recommend? That after a friend received a descent, what is the correct response in the Ten that will create such an atmosphere in which we need to be cautious? Not to be impressed that the friend received?
R. We need in the society, in the Ten, to constantly be caring for the spiritual ascent and upliftment between us. For us to constantly be uplifted, and then each and every one will then there will be bestowal upon each and everyone. It will help each and every one from the state he is in to demand ascent.
S. Is this right, like you're saying, that we should respond in the Ten? Have a response in the Ten for the greatness and ascent of a friend much more than to a descent or distancing of a friend. Is it right to say it that way?
R. I didn't understand that.
S. When there are cases when a friend says, you see, he's sharing that he is going through a certain chilling down, distancing, some problem. Then the Ten responds that there's a certain impression from this and there's a response. That there's a certain attitude towards it. When a friend shares about some action and shows that he's in greatness and upliftment, there's much less of an attitude towards it. So according to what you just said now, the attitude should be much more to the greatness than to the distancing?
R. Well, the response should actually be as such.
S. The response should be much more for the ascent than the descent?
R. Yes.
8. S. (59:16) I understand that revelation is not in my mind but a force that awakens in me for the work. What is this covering? Is it also covering a force that disappeared?
R. Yes, a revelation of what disappeared.
S. What two forces disappeared?
R. One or the other, one of the two.
S. What are the two concealments?
R. It's not two concealment: There is a revelation on one hand and a concealment on the other hand. Through these two bestowals, these two influences, a person advances. That's why it is called the left rejects, and the right abducts.
S. What is the meaning here of covering two portions?
R. Revelation of a portion and a covering of two portions. Covering the two portions means that the same revelation as it was, needs to be covered, and then he seemingly returns to the previous place but it's not enough. He is being given even more of a descent. Where he will have the ability to advance more forward.
9. S. (01:00:50) In the group, in the Ten, we always have to worry about spiritual ascent between us. What is spiritual assent in the Ten?
R. Where spirituality will be respectable for us, will be attractive to us.
S. Each one interprets it differently?
R. That's not what is important. Altogether, what we attain between us and the connection in the Ten.
S. How to make it feel each friend in the Ten and really care about his feeling of spirituality and not my ascent in spirituality?
R. I didn't understand.
S. Each one has a different impression of what is the ascent. My impression is so and so, and another friend has a different impression. How do I feel what he really needs?
R. I can't really feel what he feels, truly. But each one externally influences the other.
S. What is external, what is it?
R. External is when I am eating something and enthusiastic about it, impressed by the flavor. Then you look at me and you are also impressed. You also want to eat, to taste the same thing.
S. If I see that a friend is not impressed by this or that externality and I do look for a way to bestow in a good way to him. How do I do it correctly?
R. Sorry, again.
S. I’m saying each one interprets ascent differently and also externality differently. So if we have to influence each other and make sure we elevate each other, how do I find what elevates the friend? How do I see what inspires him?
R. I don't need to know that because his impression is his impression. I can't reach that same vessel exactly. That is why the main thing is that I am impressed by the spirituality that he is probably attaining. I too want to attain spirituality of my own.
10. S. (01:03:40) Maybe it's connected to the scrutiny now, what does it mean that happiness serves the attainment of the light? What is that joy and how?
R. Since the state of joy, of happiness, is very close to the light. And according to its nature, it is more suitable, it is more adapted to the light.
S. How do you attain that joy?
R. You have a group, of course it doesn't fall on you from the heavens!
S. By them years already on the path and the joy, it’s?
R. Sir, I don't know, I'm just telling you the laws. If you're in a society the society can awaken you to joy and to nearing the friends and the Creator. If it doesn't happen, check what is happening there. Either you're not connected enough to them and that's why you're not impressed by their awakening, in general, the group or something else is happening.
S. How do we know if it's not joy from the will to the receive or joy of bestowal?
R. Check, check, investigate it!
11. S. (01:05:15) Let's say I start from a mountain. I start from five hundred meters and get to a thousand and go back to zero, let’s say this is the analogy. Then it says when he gains his strength on his own to get closer to the Creator so to fall deeper than when I started, how does it bring me to gain closeness to the Creator in my own strength and why do I have to go deeper than where I was?
R. Deficiency, what you had at first in the beginning you used and by using seemingly incorrect not successfully you receive now a much bigger deficiency, and you implement it and then you ascend more than you did before.
S. Meaning falling into the lower deficiency trained me to deal with the greater deficiency?
R. Yes.
12. S. (01:06:24) How can it be that the Ten goes through revelation and concealment together one move of concealment will move a revelation?
R. All together the whole Ten?
S. Yes.
R. Wow that's already resonance.
S. Sometimes when we talk in the Ten about the feeling that there's an external reality that can bring in greater connection between us, but it doesn't happen what else do we do?
R. Nothing, we continue to seek an answer to the current situation and to search for a means for the awakening from the current state.
S. It sometimes happens that a person or a friend could be really frustrated when there is no revelation then the whole Ten is now helpless about what to do if the friend thinks we need to be in a state of revelation or awakening of importance?
R. I don't understand such people and they need to be explained that spiritual ascent is despite the fact that we can work with all our might and be 100% correct. It's not that we are doing and pressing some buttons and then we ascend. Yes, it's not that I enter an elevator, press a button and it raises me upwards. there is the matter of the upper will and if we merit if we are rewarded it's called a reward meaning it's not a law then the Creator raises us and it could be that you're sitting together with your friend and you are studying together and together you came but he is ascending and you are not, that's it. Ask.
S. What to do with the friends that I'm in connection with Him. I want to connect with him, and the Creator raises him. What raises his friends then?
R. It's because the Creator wants something different from you that he wants from him he wants you to ask for you to subjugate yourself because according to the root of your soul you need to do some kind of different work than what was.
S. How does it divide the revelation, concealment over ascent? How does it work when you get to a stage of revelation? It means there's an accent or it could be a revelation without an ascent?
R. There is, maybe you don't feel it. I don't know what you call an ascent but that's how it is.
13. S. (01:10:12) In a state from awakening from below when you go through descents. You first answered the friend, that the state looks long, it only looks that way in our eyes. The question is whether the amount of time depends on the quality of which you go through these states. If you go through it joyfully can you speed it up or do you just have to go through these times?
R. We need to go through it all.
S. He writes here because by this a person learns to appreciate the importance of getting closer to the Creator as the light excels from darkness.
R. Yes.
S. Is there a meaning to the person's attitude and his accents to his advancement?
R. Of course there is it's going on him its passing on them.
S. He can go through it anyway. The question is: Is there a meaning to the attitude if I go through a descent now I want it to go away?
R. It depends on how you relate to the ascents and descents, how you appreciate them, how you connect them together because as this coming out of that, etc.
S. If this attitude, if I appreciate it and it's something that helps me advance, does that speed up the process?
R. Every effort hastens the process, every effort hastens the advancement.
S. The right attitude, the purposeful attitude to the descents depends on the Ten what happens in the Ten?
R. Yes, but in truth a person advances more from the descents than from the ascents.
14. S. (01:12:19) We read about action and thought so what's more important action or thought?
R. If the thought is connected with the action then certainly there is nothing greater than. If there is one thought and a part of that there is one action, or I don't know how.
S. How could it be that the thought is disconnected from the action? What is more important?
R. The greater importance in the action because the thought alone is like the spirit, the wind. t's like spirit, it's like wind and the action includes with it the spirit, the thought, the exertion, the action.
S. What is the best way to influence the thought?
R. The best way to influence the thought is by the action.
S. How could it be? It says the end of the action is in the initial thought. It's exactly the opposite. Meaning I think about something and then I do it? Meaning the best way to work on the thought?
R. The best way to work on the thought is to work in the Ten and to go together with them.
15. S. (01:14:30) I was wanting to clarify with you. He says that the created beings will receive good and pleasure therefore the general name of the Creator is the good that does good, but there was a correction so there will be no shame during receiving the reception of the good.
"That the general name of the Creator is the good that does good but there was a correction in order for there to be no shame during reception of the good". I'm asking personally, I am not ashamed to feel good. Why do I need to feel shame?
R. When you receive if you were to receive in order to receive you would have felt a tremendous gap between yourself and the Creator and you would feel terribly ashamed. You would return it to him like Malchut of Ein Sof that received and then immediately restricted herself. You have no choice but to learn how to receive without shame. Additionally, he will be able to rise to level the Creator although you're coming from the power of reception through the intention to bestow you will be able to reach a state similar to The Creator.
S. People who receive good I don't know if they really receive good, but you don't see the shame the correction is to be?
R. The correction is concealment.
S. What do you mean concealment?
R. I don't feel that I'm receiving.
S. I don't feel that I'm receiving?
R. Meaning I receive but I don't feel it as an action of reception that I have a reason to be ashamed of it.
S. When do we say that there is no shame?
R. There is no shame because there is no concealment, so we are able to feel the shame.
S. What does that cause what's happening today in general people aren't ashamed?
R. Don't start.
S. But they're not ashamed, they have no shame. What's the correction here that they'll be ashamed of receiving?
R. The correction is to have the ability to feel the reception in us that we receive on the one hand. On the other hand we can correct it and be in order to bestow to it just like the Creator.
S. Once I've learned that the world was created that we would cover the bread of shame, what does that mean?
R. Bread of Shame is that pleasure that you can receive without shame.
S. That's the correction of the world?
R. It's not a correction.
S. What is it?
R. It depends on what you're talking about.
S. I'm speaking about that in which we as if coming to the world to remove the bread of shame.
R. To correct the shame.
S. Yes, is that the thing to cover the shame, to correct the shame?
R. Yes, it advances spiritually.
S. You want to say…
R. I give. How do we come to a state like a baby?
S. How do I get to a state where machine that.
R. You have to learn and then gradually the world you're in will begin to open up and then you will see yourself as a thief, a liar, other qualities and together with that you won't tolerate these states and you’ll ask and beg to be given Corrections so that you would not want to steal, not want to lie, what else. Then they’ll give you these vessels, these corrections and then after that you will begin to even receive in order to bestow.
S. That's a process of correction?
R. Yes.
16. S. (01:19:58) It's very hard to return to a state of double concealment; it is as if all the doors are closed concealment. what efforts do we need to apply in order to reach renewed connection with the crater as in the revelation?
R. Only through society. The society always brings you to a certain central point and then you can get back to work again.
17. S. (01:20:36) How can we make the body work without flavor and work for the Creator without receiving reward?
R. There's no such thing as not receiving without a reward. There's no such thing. A person cannot work without reward. The question is what is a reward for him? We are in the world where every movement requires power, motivation, energy and so without a reward, without an investment, without payment we can't work. The question is how are you getting paid, what is your reward, what are you receiving? Under which conditions are we going to seemingly work without reward?. We receive a reward, but differently. You also see in our world there are people who work for money and there are people who work for fame or honor, and those who invest their lives for appreciation, and they want nothing else from society. There are all kinds. Same here. We're not saying that we're not receiving any reward, that we leave our connection, rather we exchange one for another. One kind for another.
S. It's written in the article about coercion not to disregard. With that coercion so what rewards do we get with that?
R. We want to be rewarded with vessels of bestowal.
18. S. (01:22:55) In the article it is written the inner connection is in the heart so how do we work on coercion in connection in the Ten?
R. We constantly need to be in the connection between us and the connection between us will constantly change. its’ grip, its’ power, its’ purpose. Everything is done in the connection. We need to constantly look at the connection and only that. Hence, in the connection we ascribe the power, the power of connection and the purpose of connection and that's how we advance.
19. S. (01:24:26) How should we correctly relate to the descent if it gives a person a feeling that he's not okay and he doesn't succeed in applying the needed efforts?
R. Beautiful, he's got what to pray for. The Creator is showing him what's wrong with him and he should turn back to the Creator and ask. He's got no one to turn to ask for, no one but the Creator and he's got nothing to ask for he received an answer to what he's lacking so all the more so.
20. S. (01:25:13) How can we wisely help a friend during a descent without rejecting her?
R. I don't know. Slowly, gradually each Ten needs to know, needs to see by which action it succeeds more, succeeds less and that's how it realizes itself.
21. S. (01:25:50) If the person got great inspiration, a feeling of wholeness and gratitude to the Creator and immediately afterward the state inverts to darkness. Is it supposed to be that way or does the person not know how to correctly hold on to what he received?
R. No, it says nothing. You have to start working from the point where he is at right now.
22. S. (01:26:21) It’s in the connection and working on two lines right and left between wholeness criticism ascent and descent is my self-criticism on the left line the awakening from below? is that what it's called?
R. Criticism cannot be an awakening.
S. When I criticize my actions whether I'm doing it for my own sake or for the Creator after I did something, is that not that I'm going on the left line now and then I'm criticizing the things that I did?
R. I don't understand you.
S. If I chose to go on the right line,
R. What do you mean you chose?
S. if I'm going in a way of doing things let's say I'm performing Mitzvot and connecting to the Ten and then I enter into self-criticism whether I'm doing it for reward for myself or whether I'm doing these things in order to correct my body and come closer to the Creator?
R. Ask yourself.
S. Asking myself, this criticism, is that going on the left line?
R. No. no.
S. What does it mean to go on the left line?
R. To go on the left line, we will learn about this. Not now.
S. In wholeness when I go in wholeness is that left and right?
R. Yes in wholeness you walk on both feet.
S. You are on two legs so it's written on our writings what I read, it is written that King David since he was awarded with wholeness he chose to go with the Torah and I'm asking if he went only on the right how could he constantly return to the Torah and increase in the Torah?
R. You should turn to him. I'm not dealing with such nonsense. I'm telling you. We are studying according to what the material is opening for us and that's how we're walking. It's not that I'm jumping into King David. I don't know who he is. What degrees he is in? What vessels is he working with? How the Creator is working with him, nothing. I can depict myself from here till the end of the world with all kinds of pictures.
S. My secret for working out of the writings we read now my whole matter of criticism, is that not considered connected to the thing I don't have to work on my criticism where from there I can progress onward?
R. I don't know what to do with you. Are you studying with us?
S. Yes, yes all the time. yes.
R. You need to go over the lessons and learn from them. I have nothing to say.
23. S. (01:30:11) It is written here in the article that the holy ARI I said that evening of Pesach when he had to get to the people of Israel out of Israel out of Egypt so this big light was revealed to them in terms of the awakening from above, how can we awaken that awakening like there was on the eve of Passover once again?
R. This is what we're expecting, all of us. When we receive the Creator, accept him as the good who does good and as wanting to only raise us from the shells to holiness. We pray to that, we look for that, we do all kinds of actions for that. Let's hope we will do it, we'll succeed.
24. S. (01:31:32) My friend is in revelation and he is in concealment, how can we make it so that it is a common vessel, where what is important to me is where the friend is, if he's in revelations so I want to be together with him if he's in concealment then I'm together with him, not what I feel but that my reward would be where the friend is in progress with him.
R. You want to annul before him?
S. Yes, I forgot myself.
R. Completely.
S. How can I bring myself to such a state where I can measure myself according to adhering to him,
R. You need to pray. try. First of all, what do you need it for? I don't know if each one has a life of its own, a soul of his own, a goal of his own, a Creator of his own.
S. The goal is to be in equivalence of form with the Creator. I can only do that with my adhesion to the friends?
R. With the friends, with the friends in the Ten.
S. Something personal for myself won't come out of that?
R. Why not come out of it, that's egoistic ? Exactly what's coming out of the adhesion with the friends, the adhesion with the Creator.
S. In order to come closer to the root of my soul, I need to do that through adhesion with a friend?
R. Yes. In the friends you have a Ten right? You need to be incorporated with them and together with them because they want the same goal together with them to demand the Creator to help you on the one hand be together on the other hand for the Creator to be revealed to you in such a way that you will be able to cleave to him.
S. Then I will feel the state as a common state?
R. Yes.
S. Then the revelation will be common?
R. The revelation is going to be common; the state is going to be common.
25. S. (01:34:13) According to the article it seems that if the Creator relates to us like an educator he gives us an example of something good and then he conceals himself and then he says go and do your homework. Go and do your homework and you will come to the same example and then I will give you another higher example.
R. Okay let's say.
S. Okay we'll see it like that simply, the revelation so now we do this work together now he's not saying don't do each and every one individually goes into your homework but all of you together do your homework. Here there is the individual work of each and every one and there is also the group work together ,where we help each other but we cannot speak about the individual state.
R. Because you are truly very different in that, it's the Ten Sefirot each one is different and its neighbor.
S. On the one hand we have the same work for each one he's educating us and giving us an example.
R. Yes, each one is working according to his nature.
S. How do we help each other do that work?
R. Example.
S. You cannot show that example? The true thing you cannot show?
R. I'm trying to show the friend an example, yes. I'm trying to hold him, embrace him and together with him rise higher.
S. Together with him rise? What you would see in him you would see in yourself is not truly him.
R. That's something else. So what?
S. Okay I got the answer. It’s an example.
26. S. (01:36:31) The advice that you gave us on how to deal with those States of how to always yearn for the for the Ten, for the Creator there's this matter of action that can change our thoughts and so on. So I want to ask in relation to concealing a portion here. Sometimes we get the descent and a very direct and specific way, specifically in relation to the connection of the Ten meaning in practice I can calm and coerce myself to do it and perform a certain duty here and there that state of needing to connect to the friends in the Ten sometimes I have such decent that I, I am incapable of doing that. In the mind that you understand what you need to do but in the heart you just cannot have the forces to do it and you can be sunken in the state of a descent for a long time and it's impossible to get out of that state. How can we do that?
R. Do an action. Meaning, I'm incorporating myself in the Ten in a certain action and I'm only thinking about the action and how inside the action to gradually develop an intention.
S. A physical action.
R. Physical, physical.
S. What like what the friends do during the lesson the meals Etc.
R. Yes, correct.
S. That can bring a person out of the descent?
R. If there's no other choice then yes then such actions like a donkey to make yourself do that helps.
27. S. (01:38:22) We learned that there's a state of the concealing a portion, a person has a desire to revealing a portion where the friend has a desire to come to the lessons to the group etc. and also the concealing a portion where a person feels like he has nothing and he has to continue and we read that he needs to be cautious now that matter of caution, can a person do it in concealment? Can a person act as if he's in revelation and in this enthusiasm because it's very much connected to what the friend just asked?
R. To behave in concealment and revelation so it will be the same action that's already a great correction so a great correction you need to be on a spiritual level for that.
S. To simply continue to close your eyes and continue and do whatever you can do in that concealment?
R. Yes.
S. How can you in any case try to be in this enthusiasm and try to initiate from yourself in somewhat this ascent to be together with the friends.
R. It depends on the extent to which you appreciate valuing the action you are about to do.
S. Where do we get that appreciation from?
R. If a person internally feels nothing as if he's empty, where does he get that appreciation for the friends? It’s hard with the friends sometimes the friends feel nothing so
R. You can't just grasp a state that's in the middle of the way, it's half cooked, you have to build it. You're in a society and in the society behaves a certain way and it's doing certain things, and it has certain values, you have to be one of the society. If you want to change your state by the society states.
S. One with the society means to be active, to initiate things, to give them enthusiasm and not just to flow in the society?
R. No, Not also to initiate but together with them you are an active element among them.
28. S. (01:41:22) There's an ascent and then a person gets a descent and then he turns to the ascent again and he keeps repeating that we see that. How can we, how can I in the descent make that exit more qualitative because that's where the reward is, that action of being below and exerting to go above, what makes that action better, more qualitative, more advanced?
R. You're connecting to the group, to the friends, and together you wish to do their activity. You care about them, you annul yourself, you pray in their place and using these forces of rejection from behind and attraction from the front you’re advancing with them.
S. Do I have any way of measuring how much work I did well or not so well this time?
R. Not yet. Neither the power to do it nor the way to do it meaning how many people I advanced and pulled them in, it's not for us yet.
29. S. (01:43:12) Your answer to the friend that I need to give an example to the friend. In the revelation of a portion you said that that's a reward from above and it's not in our ability to know when it happens or how it happens because each one's different and it comes to each one differently from the heavens. My question is how I need to pray for the friend, for the deficiency for the friend, I need to raise that friend to the Creator. What I understood from this reward, I don't know what the deficiency is for the friend. What do I pray for the friend and how do I play out that deficiency for him?
R. What you have in your vessels for that friend pray for that.
S. First I asked that they want to be in a state of assent and the revelation of a portion you said that it's incorrect, that each one needs to be where they need to be. How what I understand is incorrect to do that we need to want because it's written in the article that I understood that we always need to be in a state of not in a descent but in an accent, so how do I, how can I be neutral in that I am concerned for the friend and I don't push him from my own desire as I understand to a state of an ascent where maybe he needs to be in a decent?
R. You don't have to worry about that. You have to show everyone a good example.
S. That’s exactly my question. A good example is a friend who prays for the friends, and he wishes to reach a connection together of all friends as one man with heart. My question is we don't know what the deficiency is of each and every friend.
R. You can’t know even the friend doesn’t know.
S. Exactly. What am I praying for?
R. You're praying that all the friends will connect and reach the Creator together.
S. If each one…
R. This is not important to me.
S. The question is what is the common denominator of the connection?
R. The Creator.
S. The Creator is the revelation of the portion that each one received and it’s completely different one from another, each one according to what he needed to receive?
R. Yes.
S. That revelation of a portion when there is a double concealment, what is common, what is mutual in our work in our exertion?
R. That each one in his place right now wants to take a step forward in his direction in his own way and in his own style, but in general it turns out that we're doing one kind of work because we receive the power and the direction from one source, the Creator.
S. Meaning that yearning and the desire to reach adhesion, I need that upon everything that exists, that’s what I need to bring?
R. The Creator brings it.
S. No, but that's what I need to show the friend?
R. Help him see it, yes.
30. S. (01:47:22) According to the explanation that you gave to the friend I wanted to maybe dress that here with an example in the Ten. Let's put it this way, first I start with the Ten and I feel that everything is okay, everything is perfect, all of a sudden this picture comes on the next stage which it comes as criticism because we are still not there. Do I now need now I'm in the third stage where I need to do something toward it and that means that I need to see that I need to attract all kinds of, for all the friends to reach there, that is such a hard work that I'd say that that's enough and I observe the Torah, observe the reward, I don't want to progress, and that is how I will go very far because that is how I distance myself from that because I don't want to receive I don't want to accept that responsibility. If I continue with the society and with that line that the Creator gave me so I can invert my state and rise with the whole society. Could that be that way?
R. I didn't understand. Did anyone understand?
S. He's asking according to the three stages that are depicted here in the article. He's given an example of it, and he is asking if that is correct. He said that the first stage is in the Ten and he feels good that he is in a Ten and then he depicts a higher state, a more corrected state that the Ten needs to be in and he is not there, so that's the covering two portions, and then the third stage is needing to give the awakening from below, meaning that he needs to put an effort into pushing the Ten there, but he says that is very hard and it is impossible and he says is that the way the work needs to be.
R. Okay fine.
31. S. (01:49:52) He writes here about joy that way we consider our spiritual work we consider a person's feeling and not from the reason that comes out of a feeling, but we need to work out of joy. Is it that in order to receive I'm happy that I will receive something in the end and that I will do it for the Creator? The main thing is that I’ll have joy and not the reason for it. So the first question about that, we learned that the reason is first and foremost important so why do we do it out of the feeling and not for the reason I brought it us to it?
R. Because it is already a result of the previous state, and a person built his future on it.
S. I want to ask about the joy from connection. What is joy from connection?
R. It includes several discernments: one is a bigger vessel and in it a greater awakening, that is one thing. The other thing is that one influences the other and then it glues the other or infects the other, and the third thing is that it's a Mitzvah, it’s a commandment but it advances, it truly advances them.
S. There are all kinds of forms of happiness in the Ten that reveal in our work. For example we could read an article together and come out with some kind of inspiration and we can also read an article and not get inspired, but I pay attention, we meet a few times a day in a few different ways, we summarize the lesson, we read the article, we prepare, we have all kinds of meetings like that and many times joy is born after the meeting ends and then we continue the conversation, we come closer to each other, but we just have a conversation about the things of the day but there's a feeling of warmth there and closeness.
R. The main thing is that you connected.
32. S. (01:52:43) He writes that after he received the awakening from above he falls not to a state of still of Kedusha but even lower to covering two portions and then the exit from there is exiting first and foremost to the still of Kedusha, is that correct?
R. I don’t know.
S. The three stages he depicts here, still, revelation of a portion, revealing a portion and then covering two portions and then afterwards is it also a still of Kedusha?
R. I guess.
S. Are we capable of differentiating between the covering two portions and that next still of Kedusha?
R. No, in general discovering two portions is not something that comes to every person, it's a result of his spiritual work.
S. Correct, but as a result of a person's working covering two portions he gets the still of Kedusha according to the stages that Rabash depicts here, so what is the work in covering two portions in relation to still of Kedusha? Is there a difference or we do not feel that?
R. There is a difference.
S. So how can we feel that transition back to the still of Kedusha? What changes there?
R. The still of Kedusha is an illumination that holds a person to a certain level.
S. You said that the person simply performs actions without thinking.
R. Yes.
S. So what does he do in covering two portions that the light does work?
R. We will get there, and we will see.
S. We still haven't reached that?
R. We haven’t.
33. S. (01:54:54) It is written in the text ‘the advantage of the light from the darkness’. How does that mechanism work?
R. The advantage of light out of darkness for light excels from darkness, meaning as much as there is darkness followed by light and the darkness is opposite to the light and the light can be seen against the background of the darkness that comes before it shines before it, it looks powerful.
S. How do we attract that light?
R. How?
S. When we are in that darkness how do we attract that light?
R. I didn't get it.
S. How can we attract the light when we are in the darkness?
R. Specifically because we are in the dark we can draw the light.
S. Is the state that we identify at every minute where we are in the left or right, is that connected to a rise in degree?
R. This changes inside the degree.
34. S. (01:56:21) Is the feeling in relation to revealing a portion and covering two portions, does it change if the person works in one line, two lines, or three lines?
R. Yes there are differences.
S. So the feeling completely changes?
R. Yes.
S. Now in relation to the work in the Ten, when the Ten incorporates in common states can the feeling of the Ten change according to the different work of the friends in the Ten? For example that they incorporate in such states.
R. Yes.
35. S. (01:57:08) I wanted to ask touching on the topic of reward, many times I heard you answer that it doesn't come to be discussed that it needs to be a reward but the topic of reward maybe we need to do a certain review of that to check it, it is as if we are walking around without reward and we need to move this thing around because it brings a lot of confusion. If we remove the reward from..
R. Sorry, but this is departing from the scope of the lesson.
36. S. (01:58:12) It is written in the article about the working in coercion, working coercively, that there's the matter of working out of love and also working out of coercion. We in the Ten try to work out of love, we try not to force anything on anyone. Sometimes a friend does not come to the lesson, and you try one way or another, out of love, and you ask how can you help them, and nothing helps, and on the other hand is it possible to force him in some way? Can you work out of coercion towards him in any way?
R. In principle yes.
S. How?
R. The Creator arranged it. He arranged all of reality in such a way that we are able to work both as a donkey with a stick. We can also work by teaching ourselves, convincing ourselves, to work in this way as a result of the greatness of the Creator.