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Lección 2Mar 24, 2023

Baal HaSulam. Apertura a la Sabiduría de la Cabalá, punto 2

Lección 2|Mar 24, 2023
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Morning Lesson March 24, 2023 

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Part 2:
Baal HaSulam. Preface to the Wisdom of Kabbalah. #2

Reading item number 2 “As we have said the Will to Receive..”

1. S. (03:12) What does it mean in the first paragraph, “departing from Him, departing from the Creator” what happened there?
R. The will to receive is also a result of the Creator but either it's connected to it to the extent that it's connected to the quality of bestowal of the Creator or he is disconnected from Him, torn from Him and no longer belongs to his upper root, that's the whole thing.

2. S. (04:11) In our world where are we in relation to the form of the will to receive?
R. In our world we are according to our form in the will to receive or you can say that the other way around according to the will to receive in us, we are in a degree called this world.

S. This world is called completely opposite to the Creator?
R. Yes that's right, we are completely opposite of the Creator because his desire is the desire to bestow to give and He has no thought of Himself whereas we only want to think about ourselves and do something only for ourselves and we have no thought about someone else outside of us.

3. S. (05:28) It's written at the end of the excerpt that until the will to the receive fully materializes he's not receiving any expression, what does he mean that the will to receive needs to materialize in this world?
R. That it is revealed to the ones who live in this world as the pure will to receive, only will to receive without any addition of the will to bestow.

S. That's considered coming into expression?
R. Then it is considered to be of this world?

S. When the vessel rises to higher worlds what form does it then acquire, what difference does it have between the desire that materializes in the world of Assiya?
R. There the will to receive as mingled with the desires with the intentions in order to bestow and to the extent that it's mingled with this desire to bestow with the intention to bestow, that basically determines its degree how high it is above this world.

4. S. (07:04) According to the excerpt that light and vessel cascade from Him, is it not up to us to create the vessel for the light to come?
R. No it's here when we are only as a potential force, it's before we exist, we don't yet have recognition or choice or personal actions.

5. S. (07:45) If our world is only a will to receive, so how by connecting these desires can we somewhat rise if it is a material that is so opposite?
R. To begin with he explains to us that we are in a world which is all in order to receive, etc. As we continue to study we learn that there was a shattering, and there are sparks of bestowal, the force of the Creator that fell and crashed and divided between the vessels of reception, and this is why in each and every vessel of reception there's a spark of the Creator. That is why the whole Wisdom of Kabbalah speaks about how we through all kinds of actions from below we can awaken the upper light from above. That it will live in us, those sparks of bestowal that fell in the shattering and this is how we will collect all these sparks and connect them together and correct them all the will to receive that the Creator created.

6. S. (09:27) The first part we learned how to behave in our work here, and here we learned how it's created and how it came down to us, what is the benefit of this study of preface?
R. The preface basically incorporates the whole wisdom of Kabbalah in an abbreviated way, Baal HaSulam is trying to explain in it what this is about, the worlds, the Behinot, the creations and how they're all connected to us and what's the beginning and what's the end.

S. Why do we need to know that we can only work?
R. How to work.

S. How we did, as we learned in the first part?
R. What's the first part, what do you understand from the first part? You have to know everything in order to know how to elicit the maximum benefit from creation, you understand? Look at the people around you, the ones who don't ask anything and they don't care about anything and they say ordinary workers if anyone wants to know more learns more, feels more and elevates himself above people and also works in a special way, getting better salary Etc. Why do I need to know, this is what the Wisdom of Kabbalah is asking why do I need to know how many angels are in the sky and what their names are, what do I have from that? What I have from that is that I'm incorporated in the purpose of creation, the plan of creation, the process of creation and I can affect it.

7. S. (11:49) I see many people outside of the group that are very empathetic and kind so why can they be so good if we are only just in the desire to receive for ourselves?
R. Because they are learning how to relate to their environment in the right way in order to get a good attitude back from the environment, so for them it's relatively easy to behave this way. outside of our environment there are many people who behave nicely. It's worthwhile for them and they get a lot out of it.

S. They are not honest?
R. No.

8. S. (13:09) Here in excerpt too Baal HaSulam depicts the connection between light and vessel, and when the desire materializes the light in it changes, or is it according to the change of the light that the vessel changes. I wanted to ask here, it's unclear where is the cause and consequence and how does that descent take place?
R. The result can interchange, he writes this as well, when the light changes the vessel changes, when the vessel changes the light changes.

S. The process of descent, how does that take place and why does it take place why is it not in the same level of change?
R. What do you mean this level?

S. Baal HaSulam depicts the descent of the worlds and I do not understand this condition of the cascading and how and why does it happen, why the vessels not?
R. Because the light wants to spread in all the desires to fill them all, that's why it cascades and it comes down from the highest degrees to the lowest ones.

9. S. (14:56) We have a young group and we have several friends and also many friends have more than 20 active friends, perhaps we are not yet corrected but we pray for the success of our friends. I wanted to ask is it possible for us at this time to exit the control of Pharaoh and what does it depend on?
R. Only on the connection between you, if you'll be in a sufficient quantity and if you will aspire to be in a connection each will help between yourselves you'll be able to come out of the control of Pharaoh.

10. S. (16:05) It turns out according to item two, that a person in this world can include in himself the entire will to receive and all of its forms and relations that are possible, is that correct?
R. We can say it's correct I don't know what you're trying to say.

S. I want to acquire perception of reality so let's say What's the difference between an elephant of this world and a person of this world, how do I relate to details that are outside of me?
R. How do you relate to the details outside of you?

S. YesI look at reality and I see people, animals, plants?
R. They are in the same world like you and your relation to the world you also determine their state.

S. What is special about a human being in this world because it says that the last stage of concatenation of the will to receive as a person, what is special about the person?
R. That it incorporates all the different shapes of the world.

S. For instance animals and plants don't include with them all the form?
R. No.

S. In what way do they not?
R. They don't include everything they only include partial and man includes all of them.

S. And the role of man?
R. To reach adhesion with the Creator where he can elevate the entire creation to that level.

11. S. (17:44) It's not clear because here he writes, as much as the will to receive is included in the abundance it doesn't reach the full measure of vitality in the body. What is the final desire of the person?
R. The Creator created the will to receive and this will to receive when it's in the will to bestow, meaning the will to receive in order to bestow then it is considered to be in the upper world, the level of the upper world. When it's in the will to bestow in order to bestow then it's in a lower world that this, when it's in an even lower world it's considered to be with a little bit of the will to receive that starts to awaken in him, and then when it's in the will to receive that completely controls him. he's considered to be in the lower world.

S. He writes here that the will to receive needs to reach its final form, what is that final form?
R. The final form is when the will to receive is completely revealed.

S. It sounds like the worst thing possible, what's happening with the will to receive?
R. Worse or not worse it doesn't matter I used different words, the will to receive that's revealed in all of its form that the Creator created.

S. Then what?
R. Then it's considered to be in this world.

S. Can you correct such a thing, can you correct systems of relations in such a way before they reach disasters, is it possible to correct such a thing?
R. Yes.

S. How?
R. I can't but we learn that nature can, that the Creator can.

S. The Creator can but we don't see that it happens, we see that it's getting worse from one day to the next?
R. I don't know if it's worse or if it's on the way but this is how it needs to reach a good way but this is what happens, we see this.

S. Do you see that it's possible to correct such a thing, this egoism, the will to receive in its final form
R. Yes the way Kabbalists explain this to us, yes.

S. I personally don’t see that and many people do not see that.
R. You're always in doubts, you're never content with the Creator or creation, you're not content with anything.

S. I'm very happy with creation, I'm not happy with relations between us I see situations that can bring disasters?
R. Don't start with your propaganda.

S. What will we reach in the end?
R. We will reach the final correction as we learned it. 

12. S. (21:18) Precisely in that we are included in the will to receive from the beginning we come to the fullest form of the will to receive here, should that not encourage us that we are in this higher plan? Should that not give us strength?
R. Of course we're part of a big plan but the question is in what way are we part? What part of the plan, the worst or the highest or in between?

S. The highest because from the beginning we understand all these things?
R. What are you trying to ask?

S. I at least feel that it is in relation to what you said earlier about not being able to exit but this knowledge of the plan that's what gives us strength, to understand that we're apart within the system?
R. I agree with you.

13. S. (22:41) The role of the person is to reach adhesion with the Creator in order to rise and bring the entire world in order to rise and bring the entire creation to the Creator, what is adhesion with the Creator?
R. Adhesion with the Creator is what we call equivalence of form, whenever the Creator wants some things creation itself wants some things and then they act together.

S. What does that mean?
R. That each and every detail in creation wants the same goal and the same process that the Creator also wants the creation to go through.

S. That's what the Creator wants but how do I know that he wants?
R. He wants adhesion between the creation and between him complete adaptation.

S. That we feel what he feels and what he wants?
R. Yes.

S And that's through the ten?
R. Yes.

14. S. (23:58) With all these questions and all these scrutinies in this entire state that we are in, what is the main thing that we should hold on to and give all of our efforts to so that we can truly be in the correct direction?
R. Connection between us until the pressure between us that we establish in this connection we'll discover the form of the Creator. 

S.That's the one thing that I need to emphasize, nothing beyond that nothing about what's happening in our country, in the world, nothing only that is what I need to place my entire focus on?
R. Yes.

15. S. (25:36) I feel a confusion, I heard you say that the light changes and then the vessel changes, does the light change or is it the vessel that sees the light differently?
R. No, the vessel doesn't want to change and it cannot change; it is incapable of changing. If it's not through the light that changes itself and this is how it changes the vessel. A vessel is a result of the light the light comes before the vessel.

16. S. (26:43) We read in the first part and I think that this is the main problem of ours, that we want, we theoretically learn and understand that the thoughts of the Egyptians, these thoughts and desires constantly penetrate us and we don't have the protection for that and that's the entire difficulty. Until there will be this inner work between the Egyptians and the Israelis we will not be able to do anything?
R. I agree with you, so do this work, what's the problem. 

S. How?
R. How can we do that, you have both the part of Egypt and the part of Israel, do the work between them in a way that you'll correct one by the other.

S. Is that the differentiation between the screen and the barrier?
R. No.

17. S. (28:28) You said that we need to pressure the connection between us until we reveal the Creator between us. How can we press more, what should we do in order to press more?
R. One should help his friend, only give an example from one to the other and you don't need anything beyond that, for sure this will help us and all the way to reach correction.

S. I'm afraid of feeling despair, is it a good feeling? I don't even know if it's a good feeling or a bad feeling to feel this despair from my inability to do more?
R. Your inability for sure that you're not intended to do anything alone, but when you connect with your friends you'll discover that you have as much as you want.

S. The force to press.
R. Yes.

18. S. (29:41) I heard that the light and the vessel are in interaction that either the vessel changes or vice versa, so we also heard that the light is at complete rest. What causes the light to change if it's not our vessel? With respect to us does it change?
R. What causes the light to change it's due to it being out of the plan of creation. Therefore it constantly increases and by that it needs to awaken the vessel and we on behalf of the vessel need to move towards the light and ask from the light to give us the force of bestowal, as such we will come closer to the goal.

19. S. (30:09) You talked about the actions from below and I wanted to ask how does a Kabbalist rise to the degrees even when he lives in this world?
R. Certainly he lives in this world and together with that in his attainment he rises into the spiritual degrees. Through that in which he connects with friends and attracts the reforming light, which is what elevates him from one degree to the next.

20. S. (32:08) Enlarge the vessel?
R. Yes of course certainly.

21. S. (32:34) What is the meaning of the will to receive being incorporated how can I understand how much it incorporates?
R. The will to receive becomes lower descends more that's what it means by its materializing.

S. What's the difference between my will to receive an ordinary person's will to receive in this world?
R. I cannot say that, you need that.

22. S. (33:12) The disturbances that we feel the sensation of the light coming closer to us, and if so what is missing is the prayer for correction in our vessel so that we can rise above the disturbances and come closer to the Creator.?
R. Correct, correct but that will also change.

23. S. (34:03) How is the vessel formed, is the absence of the light that forms the vessel?
R. Yes we will learn that soon here in the Preface, here in the Preface.

Reading item 2 again

24. S. (37:25) Why is it always written “come onto Pharaoh because I have hardened his heart”, because in the connection between us we discover the Creator's control upon us. Why don't we all take Pharaoh to the Creator and say take him away, take him from us, is that possible?
R. When you'll have such a desire, then you'll be able to do that but for the time being your desires are the opposite. Meaning only with our common mutual desire.

25. S. (38:41) What does it mean the final way of materialization?
R. It means to attain the maximal sized egoistic desire, most distant from the Creator.

S. Am I the one who defines that I've reached that?
R. Yes.

S. With respect to spirituality?
R. I did not understand this.

S. With respect, what do I find this?
R. Towards your degree you determine whether you have reached the bottom.

S. If I have defined this to be so, this means I start the ascent?
R. Yes, afterwards starts the ascent.

S. Where is the state of advancement called, the Israel?
R. It's still early for you, wait for it.

26. (39:58) I've heard that our prayers expand our vessel, everyday we pray and it's the same words and the same sentences. What exactly expands the Vessel, what exactly increases and enlarges the vessel?
R. How our understanding in the words that we excrete from ourselves, as much as we wish to be more and more connected to the words that come out of our throats.

S.It's the same words only the internality of these words?
R. Yes.

27. S. (40:47) The way we understand from item 2,,he says this world is called the world of Assiya and  this is the world where the will to receive is completely materialized?
R. Yes.

S. What is the world of Assiya?
R. That is the name of this world we are in and we need to reveal it in a spiritual form.

S. Who is in the world of Assiya?
R. It is as if, our own desires.

S. What do you mean seemingly?
R. Because that's how it is unless you wish to understand it correctly then we are not in any world. Meaning us, if you are talking about people, we are not in any world. But that is how it is in order to demarcate the things somewhat so, it says we are in the world of Assiya.

S. When we enter the world of Assiya what is that called?
R. When we enter the world of Assiya it is considered that we enter the revelation of the world of Asia.

S. Do we discover that we are in the will to receive that is completely materialized?
R. Yes.

S. This is called spirituality?
R. Not Spirituality.

S. But it is the world of Assiya?
R. That's what we call it but it's a difference between what a world is and what he attains.

S. There's a difference between where a person is and what he attains? A person is in the world of Assiya but he does not attain it?
R. Correct, let's say a person is unconscious, so he's lying there let's say at the hospital. Is he there or is he not? Yes everyone sees that, but he himself, he doesn't know what's going on with him he has no feeling of that.

S. As we enter the world of Assiya we are actually unconscious of being in the world of Assiya?
R. That is right.

S. Then what's the process, we start awakening and start recognizing it?
R. Yes.

S. That what?
R. That we are unconscious, and then we start working among each other in order to determine through connection between us some kind of consciousness of our state.

S. That we are under the control of the complete will to receive
R. Yes.

S. Can we say that it's like when we come out of Egypt, where is the world of Assiya in this process
R. I wouldn't continue this now, people are tired they won't grasp everything correctly.

28. S. (43:15) Can we say that the distance between creation and the Creator is materialized by the development of the physical world?
R. In the meantime we lack discernments. We still have no discernment.

We have a meal that's coming up, maybe we can already start moving to it. I see that people are sitting and just waiting for the lesson to end. Let's go to the meal.

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