Morning Lesson September 21, 2023

Transcription is made from simultaneous translation, which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio

Part 2:

Baal HaSulam. General Preface. #10

Reading #10 (0:50) “Now we shall explain the issue..”

1. R. (10:53) That is for now what he can tell us.

2. S. (11:11) What is the power of the record and are we allowed to use it?

R. What do you mean allowed?

S. Because every time we have to overcome. A new question, if I'm using the records, positive records that we had in the work can I revive them and through them work?

R. Of course yes. That's why they are called records.

3. S. (11:49) I didn't understand how the clash happened. I thought it was between the surrounding light and inner light and here it says that the clash is between the record and the dots?

R. Also the records, also the dots, it's all types of lights. That's why there's no problem here.

S. So the clash happens both with the record and with the surrounding light?

R. Yes.

S. And when he talks about the inner light and surrounding light having the same vessel Malchut, it's not clear why he says that they are connected because one is outside and the other is..?

R. They are both actually filling Malchut, they are both fighting over the Malchut. The inner light, the external light all in all they feel that the Malchut is what separates between them and they're fighting in order to fill Malchut.

S. So in what are they connected?

R. In Malchut, they have a tendency to fill Malchut. Soon, we're going to continue.

4. S. (13:23) Can it be said that this whole struggle, there are two different intentions that were created here?

R. Of course, that through that collision between them they can scrutinize these things, to process them.

S. It's as if there's an intention of the light that comes from above and an intention that comes from the vessel?

R. Yes.

S. What's the difference between them, why the collision?

R. It's a big difference whether the light comes from above from the Creator with the intention of creation or the light comes from below, from the intention of the vessel.

S. But the light that comes from above isn’t it only good, isn’t it enough for it, for everything to be okay?

R. Towards who?

S. Towards the vessel?

R. Until the vessel refines itself in a way that it understands that it’s good it takes a few actions as you see.

S. I also see that the vessel is doing the opposite action, it disagrees with the light that comes.

R. Right. In order to understand it, in order to scrutinize it so it must behave in such a way.

S. And even resist the light that comes?

R. Yes because otherwise it won't know how to digest it, what it is. Specifically with resistance they get to know each other and then they can start performing mutual actions towards the connection.

5. S. (15:10) He writes something very interesting, he says that by this the degrees come down in the refinement of the screen until the refinement in place of Keter of direct light and then begins the screen and the coupling by striking brakes. What does it mean that the coupling on the screen stops? Why was the screen canceled and the coupling by striking stops, what happened?

R. They don't feel the need to perform an action.

S. Is there something called correcting one degree out of all the degrees? Does it happen?

R. That's a matter of the degrees.

S. Can a specific degree be canceled?

R. Yes.

S. As if it's the end of correction in that degree?

R. Not the end of correction, don't say these words.

S. But in that degree?

R. In that degree yes.

S. What happens with it, why was the screen canceled?

R. Always when we want to ascend to a higher degree the previous degree in our eyes gets canceled.

6. S. (16:36) What does it mean the created being raises reflected light? How does it happen?

R. Values it, values the reflected light and in that way connects it to its action.

S. I don't understand, what does it mean that it values the reflected light?

R. Values it meaning that it wants to be more and more in that reflected light. That's what brings the created being closer to the Creator.

S. How does the created being or weigh through the unity of the ten raise reflected light? How do we do it?

R. Through the connection between us. That we want to connect all of our tendencies toward the Creator together, that's what we do.

S. What does it mean that the reflected light, our intention meets the direct light?

R. There's clothing and a filling. That we want to clothe on one another.

S. From where do we take the direct light, how do we come in contact with it and how do we clothe on each other?

R. We discern in all the actions that come towards us what comes from above and what comes from within and that's how we can tell the difference.

7. S. (18:34) With increasing refinement does the reflected light increase with increasing refinement?

R. Yes but not instantly, first this then that.

8. S. (18:58) He explains here about the TANTA, the tags and tastes. There are two actions of the inner light and the refinement that's somehow clear, relating to the coupling and then there's the clash. What are the two other actions, what happens?

R. Tags and letters?

S. Yes, what is it, another coupling?

R. There are many couplings, just Taamim, Nekudot, Tagin, Otiot are four lights that expand from the entrance of the general light into the vessel through rejection, attraction. That's how we discern between those lights, the four lights TANTA.

S. So the first two lights, the entry and the refinement correspond to the coupling that happened in the screen of the Rosh of the Partzuf?

R. Taamim, tastes fell from above downward and dots are already from below upward.

S. And the next phase is another coupling in the Rosh or..?

R. No, no, no. Those are already records that remain from those actions, Taamim, Nekudot, Tagin, Otiot. Tags and letters are the records, from the tags and from the letters they remain in the vessel and from them the vessel on the next degree is made of.

S. The tags, where are the tags? You're saying it's not a coupling, what is it?

R. It's the light of the Keter.

S. The light of Keter that is suddenly felt in the vessel?

R. Yes, suddenly felt in the vessel when the vessel performs the action.

S. And it feels like only after all the light that was there was refined, right?

R. I didn't understand.

S. There is the first entry and the refinement and only then are the tags felt?

R. Yes the records, the records from the tags and the records from the letters.

S. The records from the tags, the first records that go up they're like a memory of the entry of the light?

R. You could say that but let's not start defining it in our words. Soon it will be..

9. S. (21:59) Can I ask a general question? He writes here that all this work of the system is in order to bring the vessel into equivalence of form with the Emanator.

R. So?

S. Why was there a need to break the system?

R. It's not to break, it's to understand how it works. The Creator is performing these actions, all of them are done by the Creator so we can understand also from the side of the vessel, also from the side of the lights, the records and the TANTA, that we will understand what we are made of.

S. But we just read this creation is perfect, it is filled with light and then it begins to perform all those operations in order to reach the root and then something that comes out and breaks. Now that, too, is equivalence of form and that is equivalence of form? So what is the difference between these two states?

R. I don't know what this equivalence of form and that is equivalence of form and the difference between those states. I don't understand that.

S. Equivalence of form in that here is the end of this item. He writes that the vessel reaches equivalence of form with the Emanator at the end of item 10 and the state where the vessel tries to reach equivalence of form but broke eventually so now that, too is a state. There's a desire for equivalence of form but it's a completely different state and that we are infinitely far.

R. Can somebody help him?

S. What I understand that he’s asking, we see here a perfect process of equivalence of form, an attempt to reach equivalence of form with the light. Why was there a need to break it, why is it not enough? It becomes equal, we read that it became equal to its root so why was there a need to add another process here of shattering?

R. In order to understand the foundations and the reasons.

S. And the foundations and the reasons are not created here?

R. No.

S. What's added in this process that’s added after the breaking?

R. After the breaking we reveal all of the details. The shattering is a revelation. It's not that something happened by chance or because there's some malfunction but it's in order to scrutinize. It's like in science, let's say, when we in order to scrutinize something need to analyze the whole meaning, to take apart each and every thing that's before us in order to understand the reasons for everything.

S. What's the benefit in all of those details?

R. To understand the reasons. In the end without that we can’t understand the whole process, without that we can’t incorporate in Him, without incorporating in Him we can’t give contentment to the Creator.

S. The reason seems to be clear here from phase four and lack of equivalence of form. The will to receive, the will to bestow that's the general reason. Why is there a need for endless more details which eventually also are the will to receive, the will to bestow but in myriad ways. Why is it like that?

R. No, it's not like that. Here you're talking about forces and creation and after they connect between them and shatter, one because of the other and that in front of the other; so in that you are already starting to get from them all the details in order to build yourself before the Creator.

S. And is there no building to bestow here?

R. No, not yet, we still didn't get to all those details. That from them you can build creation in the stages of correction.

S. It sounds like something very fundamental was added here.

R. It's just as you take some kind of toy or bicycle, I don't know what you had there in childhood. You take it apart and then you try to gather it back together. From this you can understand how it works and why every part is important and how they’re connected between them.

10. S. (27:49) It's not clear from the explanation why bringing contentment to the Creator is not enough. I don't know the process but I simply receive, why did the vessel have to know the system and then to bring contentment to the Creator?

R. Until the vessel doesn't know the essence of its actions, how each and every action comes one out of the other, how they connect between them so it cannot give contentment to the Creator because specifically by that he bestows.

S. It's not clear why by knowing and participating, it means I'm bringing more contentment than if I simply receive as the Creator wanted to initially?

R. No, you cannot by one action that it will be including everything without you feeling the essence of every action and without that you cannot give contentment.

S. Can we use as an example the child who's playing a game and is enjoying himself compared to an adult?

R. Let's say the mother did something for the child so she adds some kind of flavors and things and it has to be warm or cold to the right measure more and more just so that the child will enjoy what she is giving him. That is actually you cannot just take a pot and take it through before the kettle, she has to give it to him with the teaspoon and then hot and cold and then everything.

S. This the Creator gives but the little child doesn't understand, he just receives the final result and enjoys it.

R. Yes, but the mother that gives to him she's the one enjoying, especially when she's giving.

S. Right, but now it seems like the Creator gives contentment from giving to us and the child receives but here we have a child who has to understand the hot and the cold and all the details.

R. Yes, as much as the Creator is inserting His love and the refreshments that the child receives that is what the child has to enjoy, eventually he's not enjoying the food itself but the Creator's attitude towards him, he has to see the difference between these two things.

S. The relation becomes clearer and better when we understand the details?

R. It completely neutralizes and connects one from the other, the main thing that the Creator is giving, and then by that he starts feeling not what he's receiving in that portion, but what the Creator wants to give him in that portion the inner Light in that and then.

S. It receives a desire, the desire of the Creator?

R. The relation, the attitude.

11. S. (31:38) Why is it that after this whole process there was another breaking in place of no consciousness altogether?

R. In order to scrutinize the Creators’ relation to us and build our relation towards the Creator

S. It's like we have to build it from scratch from scratch, we have to reconstruct it even though we don't know where we're going, it's like building from scratch, why?

R. We think it's from scratch but it's just its degree on every degree you receive it as new.

S. What is the main innovation we can say about the degree where we are now when we have no knowledge?

R. It's foundations.

S. What is it?

R. If before what wasn't important for you was the flavors, so now the Creators’ relation towards you is important and then as much as you can receive that relation in the right way until we reach a state that to the extent that we relate, and according to that, “me for my beloved,” it's called, so I feel as much as He gets to me.

12. S. (39:47) What does that mean to scrutinize the Creator's relation towards me?

R. As much as he has information conditions to begin with how He created me, He wraps me and all that attitude and in that relation and everything.

S. How does a person perform this scrutiny of the person's Creator relation towards me?

R. He starts feeling as much as the Creator starts yearning towards him, in that way they connect in a way that each one is drawn to the other and then between them there's already a complete connection.

S. What is the purpose of this active scrutiny if the feeling of the Creator is negative and I have to say about that above reason that He is Good That Does Good and He is perfect.

R. Not relating it to the Creator but we're relating it to our nature. That the Creators’ relation towards us is the Good That Does Good and there's no limit to His good, and we are in the form that we receive it in the opposite way, in order to be able to measure ourselves and check ourselves because the advantage of light comes from the darkness.

13. S. (35:06) This reflected light that descends from degree to degree until it completely disappears, called the degree of dust because it extends from the light of restriction.

Where does the light disappear to and why does it disappear?

R. The light disappears to its root because there's no vessel here, there's no one here to value it, to appreciate it. Meaning the Creator is holding the light until the created being will connect all the conditions in order to discover it correctly.

S. What does it mean that the screen is extended from the point of restriction?

R. That the point of restriction is a reason for the screen. After the restriction the created being wants to work only through the screen and equivalence of form with the light.

14. S. (36:28) What actions in the group are regarded as reflected light?

R. Everything that we can connect between us and aim ourselves to the Creator.

15. S. (36:50) Would it be correct to make this comparison where the pleasure that he's received from food is like the world of Nikudim and the pleasure that is received from the attitude is something else, I don't know how to say it?

R. Let's Let it go for now, if you can't say it will be scrutinized better, later.

16. S. (37:29) He talks about the departure and return of the Emanator through lights in the Emanator and then he talks about lights that clash with one another, dots and records, so what is he talking about the records, is it from the exit of the lights?

R. Lights and records are the same thing.

S. Yes but he talks about records and dots that clash with one another?

R. Yes.

S. Is this regarded as the clash between the inner and the surrounding?

R. You could say that it's the same.

S. We said the records in the Guf of the Partzuf is in Malchut, that it comes from the tastes in the vessel and here he's talking about tastes that supposedly when the lights exit?

R. I don't understand what you're saying, in the exit of the lights, it's not taste, it's dots.

S. But he calls it records or beating, so why is it called records?

R. Because records depart.

S. Then?

R. Then it comes into a new coupling by striking.

S. And this beating between the dots and the records?

R. Yes.

S. Why is it called surrounding in the internal?

R. It's similar to the surrounding and inner light, similar.

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