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30 - 31 August 2022

Lesson 231. Aug. 2022

Lesson on the topic of "Unless the Lord builds a house, its builders labor in it in vain”

Lesson 2|31. Aug. 2022

Morning Lesson August 31, 2022 Transcription

Transcription is made from simultaneous translation which leaves a possibility for differences in the audio

Unless the Lord builds a house, its builders labor in it in vain” - Selected Excerpts from the sources. #4

1. Rav’s Introduction: (00:32) Yes, unless the Lord builds a house, nothing will help anyone unless he despairs from his own efforts meaning that he gave all the forces and he didn't actually attain anything, that it is built in vain. Meaning it really needs to be before me that I see as much as I gave doesn't help anything. I don't despair. I continue to press on despite that I know that I cannot attain without this that the Creator will build a house, but when does the Creator build the house? Whenever I despite that I am despaired, and surely that I won't attain anything. In this that I continue, I obligate him to build. It seems to me from my words that I can describe the matter in such words.

It's not that we throw everything away, that we don't do anything, and don't continue and what we say that whatever we did, I did, and the rest is up to the Creator, no God forbid. I need to continue more and more despite that along with this I have despair, I have even confidence that I won't be able to do anything, but I know that specifically by this, that I hold myself in this manner, in this I give room to the Creator to help me. These matters are very important. We are in them, these things are precisely on the stitch, the connection between Lo Lishma and Lishma and we need to go through it, so let's go.

Excerpt 4 (02:58) RABASH, Article No. 10 (1989), "What Does It Mean …

2. R. (03:54) But he doesn't leave and he doesn't despair meaning he despairs from his own forces and he despairs that he could ever attain anything in this manner but he has nowhere else to go. He continues to stand in this manner and to go in this manner in that however he can to maintain himself, as if he is before the gate. The shotgate and he is there and he expects and he is searching despite that he knows of his own forces he won't be able to attain anything, but in his maximum forces as much as possible he continues, and doesn't go backwards and doesn't retreat from this entrance to spirituality. And he says…

Reading continues (04:52) “Unless the Creator helps him, he is lost..”

3. R. (05:38) We hear all these things in every place the wisdom of Kabbalah in our spiritual work because really this is the most important point, that a person is on one hand despaired of his own forces but on the other hand he must turn to the Creator and yell and demand and request and he doesn't have forces for this so much. Then he is like this between Heaven and Earth. Here we need to understand there is the group work, the group support, that's what we need to add here, because a person has nothing to add of himself and he is in a state that he has no more, that's it. He gave everything. From the Creator’s side he receives only this direction that he's not sufficient and he's not capable and he cannot he doesn't know what to do.

All that remains is connection with the Ten and don't forget this because specifically when we connect, then we find there and we take out from their spiritual force of connection of support and in this specifically we are awakening the Creator that he is one for all. Thus, if we connect despite that we are despaired and we cannot but we are despaired and we cannot have our own private forces, but when we connect and turn to the Creator as much as we are capable that's already a different force, that's a different appeal to the Creator and the Creator turns to us end and as the Creator to everyone the upper root of every one of all of us, and then we receive spiritual forces that comes to us from the Keter and from the Keter, from the upper, and it draws us and pulls us to a higher degree, and that is how we enter spirituality.

Thus, despair must be and everyone it must even be in that we connect between us. When we connect between us there's a different despair that we need to press on the connection between us because within the connection between us is the Creator, he is there and then as much as we connect we are demanding of him to help us and to build a house. That he shall connect between us, that we will be as one man in one heart. Then in such a manner we rise to a higher degree.

4. S. (09:10) On the one hand it says here that without help from the Creator he's lost, on the other hand, it says now I don't need to believe that the Creator helps but now when he merits adhesion with the Creator he will say that he sees in within reason that the Creator help him.

R. Beforehand he only heard without the assistance of the Creator he cannot reach spirituality because we receive a new nature and that comes to us from the Creator, and now when he accepts it that's how it happens, and really otherwise he cannot. It's impossible.

5. S. (09:58) How to reach a state where you tell yourself that not everything I can, at least, is external things?

R. If you feel that you did everything possible ask yourself did you do everything possible to be connected with the friends?

S. How to reach that state and how to achieve that?

R. Look for how to adhere to the friends such that you are doing everything that they need to be as one. Think in this direction, don't think in your direction, think in the direction of the group.

6. S. (10:58) To what extent a person needs to examine himself and his own state and used to serving the friends and working on connection even though I'm immersed in self-love I don't feel an urge to receive correction. I don't understand and I don't find this kind of urge in me

R. With what the mind doesn't do, time does. Meaning that we need not that we can calm ourselves down and this and that and in a few more years and we will attain it but for every spiritual matter we need to get used to it. Thus time is needed meaning where I am and how much time I am in it nonetheless these two discernment need to be checked while in each and every state.

7. S. (12:07) In order for, how to ask the Creator correctly without all kinds of excuses?

R. You're an architect and you are asking to the point and correctly, meaning as much as I can describe to myself in a magic to myself destructure of the group and the correct structure and house that this house is a place of receiving, that they are connecting all our desires to such an extent that they are incorporated together that the Creator can fill them as one for all. Meaning we need in our connection to depict something that is one that is general, and this that we need in our structure all the time to think are we getting closer to that, it's difficult to understand because we don't have such Reshimot records we have broken Reshimot records.

We need somehow none the less to make an effort to get closer to such an extent that what is in the heart of each and every one, these desires will be able to unite and to reach a state of one. It won't be and it can never be because each one has an entirely different spiritual root and when we want to get closer to it then we are building such a connection by restriction, a screen, and reflected light. In such a connection is made that even though we are different as it is written as their faces are not the same and their opinions are not the same, such we need nonetheless to make an effort to be connected as much as possible.

The Creator will complete the house that is for sure, the Creator finish his creation he does everything and he corrects and he unites them just as he gathered us as we now know each other in the group and such he continues but at this stage it what is demand of us is as much as possible to detect to locate this desirable form of connection of us. That is it.  In this each and everyone needs to make himself some soft material to be suitable for the friends and to complete between them whatever is possible.

Meaning each one has a stony heart yet truly a stone and hard on one hand and on the other hand each one needs to be soft and be prepared and be ready to enter between everyone the main thing to be to connect everyone and this is our work, in hardship and in coarseness and and softness and then we have a connection of two forces, despite that they are posed contradictory. They help one another to build a house because there needs to be stones and bricks and hard stones, on one hand and on the other hand they need to be ready for connection. We're not capable of doing this truly, but we start and as it is written the Creator will complete for me, the Creator does the work, but we need to prepare ourselves for it to be prepared to be as the material and the matter in the hands of the maker in the Creator that he will do with us whatever he wants. And we agreed to everything that he will do to us.

S. In the ten we are working together for a while now but in principle I don't know how to tell my friend, the one sitting next to me, how he feels the same ship between us and what does this mean to him and his inner feelings. I for instance cannot imagine how my friend feels to advance or do I need to focus on my work?

R. No, you can never be in the other’s place, you can only by the work that is outside of the work that is each and each and everyone. Then later on to see how you are connected and reflected light but in the private work and in the private sensation nobody can enter the heart for the friend.

8. S. (18:30) I understand that Kabbalists say that one should wish to pray all day but the question is how does the prayer to the Creator help come out of the will to receive and if so if it helps how is it felt by the one who asks?

R. How does the work towards the Creator help the will to receive? Only that helps. Ultimately like now we want to connect between us, it's really like children in a sandbox, that we are playing and that we want to build something. Then we see that we're not capable. That we are despaired in this and that we will be able to build something and that in the middle of the way that you choose one wants to do it this way or that, and we destroy everything we begin a new we're just really disturbing one another and bothering one another until we reach this decision that we must ask of the Creator. Meaning all of us have already cried and we did all sorts of things, that we were in conflict and so on and so on and then we reached despair and one desire.

Then we say, here is the place of the Creator, there's nothing more to it, here it is up to the Creator and he is corrupting the relations between us that we are not capable of building something between us. He also said I created the evil inclination and then we see that we are not capable of skipping over it and we cannot connect above it and we want to be together and we see that each time we fall. I want to connect with everyone. I want to hug everyone I hug and the moment I hug, I feel that I cannot, my heart cannot be open to the friend, why? The Creator says I have created the evil inclination. Meaning and all of our efforts there is some border and some limit that we are not able to enter, what do we do? We just turned to him.

S. What you say is accurate but how do I pray and ask him to Ten but how do I feel this response of the Creator. How does he take me out of the will to receive that he actually gave me?

R. Leave that up to Him. He will do it whenever he sees that it needs to be done. He will do it and you are actually advancing towards it very nicely.

S. You will feel, certainly?

R. Surely you will feel it and you will feel that you are rising above your ego and you're finally able to connect with the friends in heart and soul and this connection that you attained, it is called Creator, the connection, in the essence of the connection is called Creator.

S. It's a bit of a problem to perceive and to grasp.

R. You'll get it and you'll grasp it right now you cannot grasp it because you don't have sufficient connection to the friends in order for unity to be revealed there but I'm telling you it's on the path and soon.

9. S. (22:27) He writes here now I don't need to believe that the Creator helps. meaning that we need to let go of this need for help?

R. What did I need help with? For the Creator to help is one thing and this that the Creator needs to help me is another. Meaning, we need to reach a state that I really see that I cannot do anything more. The Creator will complete the work for me, and I don't leave and continue and continue. Sometimes in all-powerful force and sometimes in half power and sometimes in a quarter power. I'm not always capable of giving all the power but I continue. Then it is called that the Creator will complete the work for me. I need to begin the work each time.

S. Is that a condition before the entrance?

R. Yes, it's all before the entrance. We are all truly before the gate.

10. S. (23:53) There's a state where the Creator doesn't build the house, or that we just can't build the deficiency like we don't ask as one, and show us the window that we are building the deficiency that's so important?

R. The Creator built this whole building, a structure called the soul of Adam Ha Rishion and He broke the soul of Adam HaRishon, we are all called Bnei Adam, sons of Adam because we are parts of that same soul as the Creator created and He gathered all these parts back again. Just in our participation we need to help. In what? Just like a baby, a little child that wants to do something and he cannot do it and he cries and then the parents help him.

11. S. (25:02) About turning to the Creator loving the friend and connecting to the friend is the same thing?

R. To connect is an action and to love is already a state.

S. Can you connect without loving?

R. You can connect without loving in a more external connection, yes. Afterwards the continuance of this connection leads to love. Love is a very big thing that we don't understand so much. It's only the intention to bestow but I take the desires of the friends and I work on them so that I want to feel them. That's a sign of love and that in this of course there's all the degrees.

S. I just noticed that if I want to justify the friend it's very important it's very difficult but if I succeed a little bit and loving him, then the justifications kind of come by themselves

R. Okay, continue, the main thing is to continue all the time.

12. S. (26:28) Is it worthwhile describing to myself a situation that we are all connected and with love and to imagine it and fantasize, is that also a prayer?

R. Yes.

S. Thank you, you answered.

R. We must see the state that we are connecting all of us together. Truly together, that needs to be in front of us and we need to describe it to ourselves, and out of this we act. It's like kids and although they're playing with toys, they are describing to themselves they are imagining that they are adults and that he is playing with a truck or something, it gives him development . That is how we are, Even though we haven't reached a connection but we need to describe to ourselves that we are in connection. Truly so as much as possible.

13. S. (28:05) You said that I take the friend's desire and I start working with it. What does it mean practically to take the friend's desire and work with it?

R. That you want to take all the work that the friend needs to do and in connection with the group and you're willing to take it upon yourself. Meaning to help him to be connected with everyone, in desire ,you don't need physical actions here rather only desire. That you support him.

14. S. (28:52) How can the world's vessel help each friend to pray all day?

R. We need to think about the entire world Kli. That if each one will think about the spiritual progress even a bit. Meaning the increasing connection between us, that each one will have desire and force and direction and success. We need to think about that. We need to remind each other even and during the day a few times for the entire world vessel. To give some a ring or alarm, to remind us that we need to think about our mutual success in connection.

15. S. (30:01) How can I be an example to my friends if I feel that I cannot come out of myself concerned, how can you work above that feeling?

R. What is it above the sensation, if the sensation is bad then I need to rise above it and work as if I am in a good sensation, because who's corrupting my sensation from good to bad? My evil inclination, then I rise above it and it's called I'm rising above the bad sensation to a good sensation.

16. S. (31:03) Is the result of the work that we build the house in the state called Arvut or is that different?

R. We are guarantors for each other and so each one holds the connection with the other and holds the other and that's why the structure keeps holding because I am responsible for everyone and he's responsible for everyone, in the other one is responsible for everyone and so in such a way the building of our soul can exist, that's how we recover and restore the broken soul, and we recover it as whole.

17. S. (32:12) In the Ten we had a special gathering and after a long time we said that we're not letting go of our ego and our evil inclination rather that together we're going and connecting, and the depth of the recognition of evil of the ego. The lack of ability to exit, needs to be at each and every friend or it doesn't matter that if one person has it in the Ten than operates on everyone?

R. Correct, if a few friends are already in recognition of evil, then that's already sufficient. In sum total our work is group work and thus each one as much as he invests he adds to the connection to the group. Thus, there does not needs to be this recognition of evil and each and every one that's the entire great addition that we have in the work of connection,

18. S. (33:06) If I see that I don't have the desire to help them, do I need to pray for such a desire or do we need to ask from the bottom of my heart to justify them and turn to the Creator with that request to justify them?

R. If I see some opportunity to help a friend or the friends even though I don't want to and I ask the Creator to give me a desire that I will participate and help them. That's all our spiritual work. It is the highest and the biggest. Let's say like this if in front of me there is an opportunity to help the Creator or help a friend, I need to help the friend first. We'll talk about this more and get deeper into this, but to help the friend first.

19. S. (35:51) As pairs of friends who meet and workshop together and read together that's how we meet between the friends and we alternate all the time, can this addition strengthen our connection or harm?

R. Connection won't harm as long as it's not against others, then if I have an opportunity today to be in connection with my group with one or two, then of course I need to enter there and learn with them and talk with them and connect with them of course.

20. S. (36:55) How can we achieve the right building shape?

R. By this we yearn to be connected. We see how much we are not capable of turning to the Creator and we don't leave him until he shows us how we can't connect, truly so. Meaning first of all to press on ourselves to be connected, to help one another as much as possible to be tighter together with one another, and then to turn to the Creator if we don't see that's enough that the Creator will be as glue between us that he will connect us together, and we're ready for all the forms of connection that He will do on us just so that we will be as matter in the hands of the Creator that's what we want to be in his hands.

21. S. (38:25) I want to ask when should we ask for the help of the Creator when I want to connect to my friend should I ask before that I try myself should I ask when I failed to do it how does this work and where should I my ask for the Creator in this action between me and my friend ?

R. I think that the best thing is if we're going all the time together with the Creator. I don't need to bring myself to a state that I'm in despair and then I turn to the Creator, it is written that there is no more joyful state and better state for a person than that he feels himself in despair of his own forces and then he turns into the Creator. Actually I've already read and heard and tried and if I go together now towards some action or connection to some new action then I immediately try to be with the Creator why not? Why do I need to reach despair and disappointment ahead of time?

I understand that I will not succeed and then I thank the Creator. What can be the loss here if I turn to him immediately that I don't have sufficient lack, then along the way I will acquire the lack, try not to disconnect, not with the friends or with the Creator just such that there's anything here either we use the friends in order to need the Creator and needed help, and we connect to the Creator in order that he will help us to connect with the friends and then we have this triangle, Me, the group and the Creator. In this manner we're always improving on the connection between us until we reach a state that my connection with the friends start to be a circle and the Creator is in the center of the circle in the sphere and he feels it.

22. S. (41:07) What is the correct preparation in order to turn to the Creator?

R. The right preparation, we don't need to wait until I explode and who knows when I will achieve the very great deficiency. I can turn to the Creator and again learn from children. A child cries even though he doesn't have a real reason, he just wants something and that's it, and he already runs to his mom or dad and asks for help, to do something for him and so on. That's what we need. Each and every step as many times as possible to turn to the Creator to see him as a partner and every action.

23. S. (42:07) Many times we find ourselves in a state according to what the Creator sends us in reality that we are not capable of giving him gratitude, rather we're in suffering and we cannot rise above the ego and see him as the good that does good and it happens quite a lot, and although we make the effort to rise above but our ego keeps us below, is there an opportunity to give gratitude to the Creator even though with this sensation?

R. Yes, you still learned something to advance.

24. S. (43:22) There's a sensation that the despair of my own forces and despair of connection it's the same despair? As if I'm not suitable and I cannot complete my part in the Ten and then there is despair that we cannot connect?

R. All right but keep going. Try to do this more together.

S. Right, the question is, is that called the general despair for connection?

R. Yes, most important that in the ten there will be some collective despair because you want to build a house and you see that you cannot, then there's a collective prayer, a prayer of many, a prayer of the public. You turn to the Creator and you ask him and you obligate him to go into your circle and organize it, assemble it and build it into a complete Partzuf of the soul.

S. Each one brings his private lack and that's what gives us the general lack?

R. Yes, there's always a personal despair, to put it like this, you never come out of yourselves, you only externally connect to each other and each one stays in his desire and after all.

S. I wanted to share some sensation after the Congress. On one hand there are like two sides, on one side we will reveal that the time is our home but we reveal the outside the ten there is the sandbox and this play area.

R. Very well.

S. Then it's hard to come back home when I want to stay in that play area but on the other hand we understand that the ten is the home. How do you balance this?

R. We will get to the point where it comes together and where it connects together and where we need help from the whole world that vessel that will help us be more connected inside of our time and our ten, we need it in order to support the whole world vessel and so we basically connect from inside out and from outside inside and that's how we incorporate to mutually.

S. It needs to be equal?

R. No, in the meantime we shouldn't try to measure it.

25. S. (46:38) A friend asks why is the work of bestowal leading to despair?

R. Because it doesn't fulfill my will to receive and that's why it leads to despair that I each time work doing all kinds of actions to fulfill my will to receive, even though I'm talking about the will to bestow of my vessels are in the meantime just the will to receive without the intention to bestow our work leave to despair and if we want to skip the despair through connection between us and asked the Creator to make us connected and so forth then we rise to the next degree. Still our work always only goes through despair and the great Kabbalists wrote about it here, and there are not many words ir but it how they sometimes enter despair, between state to another state there's always a descent where there is a sense of despair.

S. There is some calculation here?

R. It's not calculation, it stems from the natural structure of the will to receive, it's not that we need to make some calculations here. The will to receive, after the shattering is under the influence of the upper light that works on it equally and then all the desires that are closer to the upper light begin to awaken further and then other desires wake and less after them and that's how a scrutiny and correction of all the broken Kli of Adam HaRishon is made.

26. S. (49:11) We have 24 hours in a day, what's the most desirable thing to fill our connection with the Creator? It is written that I wish we prayed all day but we can't pray 24 hours but we need to fill this connection and not lose it, what's desirable?

R. If in all your work whatever you're doing with the group and your music and everything that you're doing, then ultimately you want to do it in order to move towards the Creator then you're doing spiritual work, so just add a bit of the goal to it, what do you want from your actions all your 24 hour, even when you go to sleep, add to that and intention as you go to sleep and then that too will be spiritual work.

S. You said we should describe to ourselves, our vessels,our state in the Ten, you described the children playing with the truck and he described to himself that he's going to be a big truck driver so what are we holding on to end the Ten that needs to be?

R. We need to describe to ourselves that we are all connected in a single Ten and it's a tight connection and the Creator who feels that connection and as the Creator reveals that connection, there we reveal the NRNHY, l greater and greater and greater each time until we come to Ein Sof.

S. Just to hold that thought or image picture?

R. Right, Good luck.

27. S. (51:06) What does it mean that whatever the mind doesn't do, that time does?

R. That we don't need to clarify these things by actions in our mind but rather actions where we simply have to activate ourselves more and more and more by repeating the same actions we come to the goal.

28. S. (51:39) Sometimes we feel in the ten that we succeed to form an atmosphere of serious work to demand of each one and then some friends have a hard time even externally they get distanced but this seems to help friends that want to work more seriously inwards. What's the atmosphere that needs to be in the ten that draws all the friends and no repulses any one?

R. I can't say here, you need to choose for yourself each time such a form of connection, such a style of connection that will keep everyone. Try, I don't know.

29. S. (52:35) You said before that the group gives you power to continue standing before the shut gate to keep praying and not leave, but what do you feel? What do you do if you feel the gate is locked before the friends also?

R. The gate is locked before the friends and you approach them and connect with them and stand towards the gate, which you probably also feel that it's locked and you strengthen the friends more and more and more to demand the gate to open.

S. My demand towards the friends, how do I open the gates that I have before the friends?

R. I don't understand that you need to strengthen the friends and to be in front of the gate and demand the gate to open and the gate opens only on the condition that you connect your hearts, it's the gate that is in the friends hearts.

S. My gate between the friends is in relation to the Creator?

R. I don't exactly understand your question.

S. The gate between us between the ten in the Creator and the gate between me and the friends is that the same gate?

R. No, with the Creator it's your personal gate with the friends it's a more collective gate. And of course there's a connection between this and that, particular in the collective, this you'll have to reach that feeling of how it comes together.

30. S. (54:38) What does it mean to connect the hearts?

R. To connect the hearts means to feel that we have a single problem in front of us and none of us can overcome it but only when we connect together to the extent that we connect together, we create between us not in each and every one button specifically between us, we create, we generate this special force that can open the gate.

S. And how do we do this? How do we generate this force between us?

R. With the Creator's help.

S. How can we continue to work when we feel the despair?

R. The despair actually strengthens the connection between us, because we don't have a choice and there's nowhere to run, and there's no more where to get help from, specifically through the despair we come to a correct address to the Creator. About this it says ‘There is nothing more whole than a broken heart.’

31. S. (56:04) The house is already built or we are building ?

R. We need to build this building brick by brick and really build it like that, brick by brick by brick, because it's all within us it's all inside a broken heart.

S. And where is the sensation that the building already?

R. On the other hand it's already built and it's not even broken but only towards us so we can attain it. You go to school and there in each and every lesson you get questions and you have to solve those problems and study these things, and you think that the exercise you are given, like two plus two or whatever and the world doesn't know how to do it, of course it does. Only you don't know, so now you're given the exercise so that you will know it as well. The Creator similarly shattered everything towards us, the whole reality, the complete reality already exists, but we have to reach it in order for us to reach it He broke it, and so we have to do these exercises just like kids in school to become grown ups and participate in the grown-up life.

S. The desire to attain this house, is?

R. The desire to reach that building to build the house and so forth, it always changes, we keep updating it, we keep correcting it on the way. Because our desire changes, our observation changes, that's how we always change the way we demand help.

32. S. (58:29) It's not clear what the process here, that a person feels distant and lost and then he needs to simply reach a state as it's written here, ‘That he'll be privileged with adhesion and he'll see within reason that the Creator helps him.’ That is not clear how this works together, how do we need to work above reason to correct the forces to overcome?

R. I'm asking for strength to overcome in order to connect with everyone.

S. Why do I need to see within reason that the Creator is helping me?

R. I can't see it within reason, I see it sometimes as results but to see that the Creator helps is already in a sense when we actually go above reason and then I actually see the Creator's hand.

S. Right, it's not so clear here that he writes, I do not need to believe that the Creator helps rather or not that he's rewarding us with Devekut he sees within reason?

R. As a result of this state he achieved then he can say, yes it's only the Creator that can help it's the Creator's hand.

S. That is called within reason?

R. Yes, for now.

S. It is written that a person needs to see he is more and more distant from the Creator, from adhesion with the Creator called to bestow. Why is adhesion with the Creator called, to bestow.

R. Based on what quality we adhere to the Creator.

S. “There is None Else Besides Him” isn’t above the quality of bestowal?

R. ‘None Else Besides Him’ is not a quality, it is a principle.

S. “There is None Else Besides Him” is not the adhesion?

R. You need to adhere to bestowal, the form of bestowal which is really the Creator's quality towards us, and above that ‘None Else Besides Him.’ But ‘None Else Besides Him,’ I can’t adhere to it because I don't have that quality that allows me to cling to ‘None Else Besides Him.’

S. That’s all our work, the uniqueness of the Creator, the greatness of the Creator?

R. Only bestowal, the identification, the equivalence.

S. The Creator is managing me completely in my will to receive, I don’t need to criticize this and see this is ascribed to the Creator?

R. We will talk about that more, it will happen.

S. The despair of my own forces, do I already see that the friends are in connection or not?

R. Despair of my own strength is that I don't enter in order to bestow, that's the true despair.

33. S. (01:02:00) I understand that it turns out that there is despair of my own forces or God forbid, despair of the Creator, is there a group despair?

R. Very good question, very beautiful question. Yes, there is a collective despair of the ten, we see this as a few places in the Zohar even, where Kabbalists tell us about it from the times of the Zohar that's 2,000 years ago when the book was written, yes, they would sometimes feel the collective group despair, yes.

34. S. (01:02:57) Does the despair come on a person, does it just drop on a person at a specific time or does it come gradually?

R. I don't want to talk about that, I don't want to talk about the despair, that's not good. Better if we learn about the connection and upliftment and hope and joy and the despair, no, there is no despair in our life, that's how we should determine things.

35. S. (01:03:51) You've already said twice that all of us remain in our old desires, so what is this reality called between us?

R. That man's desire is always changing but we are certainly in the desire, each one of us is in his own desire, but our desires are changing until we begin to see that our desires can be connected, how do they connect our desires? Each stays in his desire and can't come out of his desire to the others desire, but by the reflected light by bestowing to each other, supporting each other. By that we connect.

Reading Excerpt #5 (01:05:05) “Why Specifically They Who Sow in Tears...” Twice

36. S. (01:10:09) Is it correct to feel a sensation of joy despite the suffering, from this that you know it's a time of sowing?

R. Excellent, yes, it's exactly that. If I feel that I'm connected to the process and the Creator and the group and even though my steps are seemingly opposite, I'm in the descent, in disappointment but still through the disappointment and the dissent and despair I feel it's on track that these are the states I have to go through.

It's like a sick person who has to get a cure and he knows it's unpleasant but it's going to make him healthy, and so he's happy. That's how we look at the process that even in states where the body suffers. Rabash would say let it suffer, he would be pointing at its body, he would say let it suffer. Meaning he himself, meaning his intention was already ahead, forward.

37. S. (01:11:50) Sometimes we say that the ten is the vessel and sometimes we say that the prayer for the friends is the vessel, and here it's written that the true vessel is when there is a demand for the assistance of the Creator, such a demand that only the Creator can help?

R. Because then you find that you depend on the Creator completely and only thanks to the Creator, you can change the situation and then you feel that the change, the correct change is not that you will discover something but that you will be able to bestow more. The quality of the next state appears to you in a clear form, that I'm not asking for this or this or that only to be more bestowing, because that makes me bonded with the Creator. Time and again you change your requests somewhat, your vision forward until you come to the true demand that you don't like anything besides bestowing to others outside of yourself.

S. Is it possible to be more precise here, before a person feels the true need for the salvation of the Creator then there's no Kli yet?

R. That you see from now until Ein Sof. We are always working on the correction of the Kli for more and more and more in quantity and quality in unifying everything, it's a multi-faceted correction, yes.

38. S. (01:14:05) How does the knowledge that only the Creator can give us the correct and strong lack for bestowal, how does that annul our work in attaining this lack?

R. Because you need to demand the Creator to give it to you that's why it doesn't cancel it.

S. But if only the Creator can give us the correct lack?

R. He can only give it to you on the condition that you demand properly.

S. I don’t know how to demand correctly?

R.You learn how.

S. When I reach demand for bestowal I am entirely in reception?

R. By being in a group and by seeing that through connection with the friends you ultimately acknowledge that without connection with the friends you cannot reach the goal, there is no choice.

39. S. (01:15:15) Should we wait for a miracle?

R. I can't answer that.

40. S. (01:15:51) What is the opening of the heart in spirituality, what is its root?

R. The root of opening the heart is when we come from one desire that was later shattered. That's why we have a tendency, it's not a tendency above us but we have a need and a sensitivity to return to one heart.

41. S. (01:06:21) How can the Ten attain a unified cry to the Creator and how can we express it? Is it possible that one friend will express the cry in a common prayer, and in this case what do the other friends need to be doing?

R. Yes that too can be one friend, she raises a cry, one cry for the whole group.

42. S. (01:16:52) During despair I got from several friends in the Ten, but all of a sudden other friends, random friends in the convention also helped greatly. Is this connection supposed to be only in the permanent ten or is it important that every spiritual connection from the friends along the way will help?

R. Each one of us has relatives because they're related to us and they’re close to us, and there are those who are more distant. And that's how it goes gradually all the way to the rest of humanity that is behind all those circles around me, so anytime you need to accept them this way. I need to say eventually that I depend on everyone but I depend on everyone to a different extent. These are called relatives because they influence me much more and these are distant because they influence less and so on and so forth, and we are the same. In this last Congress we got to know other groups, made other connections, other tens, we can remain in contact with them but nevertheless my group is my core group to which I have to be connected all the time. And in a different extent and different times I'm also connected to more external circles and one does not interfere with the other.

43. S. (01:18:39) How do we convince the Creator to open the gates to all the friends?

R. According to the desire in the heart to the extent I truly want it in my heart, I convince Him.

44. S. (01:19:02) If the group doesn't help me exit a descent, is the connection with a teacher or the world Kli going to help me?

R. No, it will help more in your prayer as much as you learn and pray.

45. S. (01:19:25) If from despair I say to myself, okay I'll just focus on dissemination, is that a sign of running away from the feeling of despair or is it okay?

R. It's okay, eventually through dissemination and study and all those states will bring you to an average line.

46. S. (01:19:54) What's the difference between a Kli and a desire before and after correction?

R. A true Kli, a true vessel is the degree of bestowal that we have from the general desire, the intention to bestow is the vessel and the desire is, the desire that exists exists in the vessel, so you have the desire and you have the intention. We check the vessel according to its intention to bestow.

47. S. (01:20:37) When the Creator answers a request that was born in the ten, what is the correct action after that?

R. Only in adhesion with the friends can I detect how we need to act next.

48. S. (01:21:02) You said we were connecting on the basis of bestowal but we can't bestow because we are egoists, so how will we connect?

R. Connect above our egos with the intention to bestow. We receive from above the reforming light and then even from a person's will to receive who's entirely with the intention to receive it can partially work in order to bestow.

49. S. (01:21:51) What does it mean to be a bestower?

R. To feel the other's desire more important than the desire of himself and to work with his own desire in order to fulfill the desire of the other.

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